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hey i was just wondering since iphone has such great g-sensor games would it be possible to create something like a aplication where we would be able to install iphone games and play them on our htc diamond it would be prety cool thanks
i was thinking of something like a iphone game emulator?? what do you guys think would this be possible
Well OsX working on a pc is pretty common so...No, seriously, that would be so "in their face"... Anyone of you talented guys here want to cook this up on a lunch breake?
I just puked a little. On the left side of my keyboard.
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I just puked a little. On the left side of my keyboard.
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lmao, nice one
Yeh We really need one ..Good Idea
iPhysics!
Woud be great indeed to get the only thing the iphone makes better than the rest!!
I mean game wise..... there is quite a huge difference huh
so is anyone going to make something like this??
I kind of laughed when i read this thread title, i doubt this is possible, even through emulation. Miniature version of OSX vs WindowsCE5... whens the last time you seen a non ported OSX app on XP or Vista?
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only a little?
just when we thought that we have no more gps or mp3 lags, no battery shortage, no album tf3d questions in short we have the perfect device our friend here remind us the cruel truth......we can not play iphone games on our device.....
i would definitely love to have iphone's MonkeyBall on my diamond!!
so is anyone willing to try this??
The iPhone has a faster cpu and a lower resolution.
So how do you think you will be able to play any game written for the iPhone on the diamond?
TDO
but, the iphone have 3d gpu??
Are You On Something?
Tweak Here guys and gals, just wanting to offer my 2cents. First, I think the Diamond is all around a better device than the iPhone. But we wont get into a debate on that now, but I want to make a point here.
If you go to the iTunes App Store , or the Jailbreak Apps , what do you see. There are 50 games (if not more) to every single utility or hack. Now if you come to XDA , PPCgeeks , or any other windows mobile site, what do you see? Now there are 100 (prob may more) utilites & hacks to every game!!!
Why? I understand it on the iPhones side of things. Most wont jailbreak since the App Store is open, and Apple wont let any hacks on the store, and the few utilites they allow, are monitored closley, and can't do anything to compromise apples control over the device. Therefore, all of the 3rd party iPhone Developers, put all there time into games!!
Now, what about the WM developers. With the release of the diamond, having the great accelerometer, and a dang decent screen, why not put all of that time into developing games that compare to the iPhones, or at least more time!!
But I just wanted to raise the question. Thanks for listening. See you guys later
Tweakster!!!
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Tweak Here guys and gals, just wanting to offer my 2cents. First, I think the Diamond is all around a better device than the iPhone. But we wont get into a debate on that now, but I want to make a point here.
If you go to the iTunes App Store , or the Jailbreak Apps , what do you see. There are 50 games (if not more) to every single utility or hack. Now if you come to XDA , PPCgeeks , or any other windows mobile site, what do you see? Now there are 100 (prob may more) utilites & hacks to every game!!!
Why? I understand it on the iPhones side of things. Most wont jailbreak since the App Store is open, and Apple wont let any hacks on the store, and the few utilites they allow, are monitored closley, and can't do anything to compromise apples control over the device. Therefore, all of the 3rd party iPhone Developers, put all there time into games!!
Now, what about the WM developers. With the release of the diamond, having the great accelerometer, and a dang decent screen, why not put all of that time into developing games that compare to the iPhones, or at least more time!!
But I just wanted to raise the question. Thanks for listening. See you guys later
Tweakster!!!
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Still it would be really good if we could get an iPhone Game Emulator for now, as its games have awesome graphics e.g this game see for urselves
I see people arent getting at what kukuriku was suggesting.
there is a very, very small chance of it happening. take, for example, how long it has taken andoid to get on the diamond. and android is an open source OS. the time and effort it would take would be immense and, in short, not worth it. if you need the iphone software so much, then im afraid to say that you bought the wrong device.
emulation is out of the question - too slow, especially for games. the diamond doesnt even have the correct aspect ratio screen either.
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I see people arent getting at what kukuriku was suggesting.
there is a very, very small chance of it happening. take, for example, how long it has taken andoid to get on the diamond. and android is an open source OS. the time and effort it would take would be immense and, in short, not worth it. if you need the iphone software so much, then im afraid to say that you bought the wrong device.
emulation is out of the question - too slow, especially for games. the diamond doesnt even have the correct aspect ratio screen either.
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lolx... im getting what he says, im a WM Developers + Cook, and i didnt buy the wrong device, i hate APPLE and am a gr8 HTC LOVER+FAN, but the thing is tht WM is capable of much more then what we are using it for, im a COLLEGIATE and lack time else maybe i would have asked some1 else to do it and aspect ratio might not be such a big problem
well
I'm sure an OSX emulator would be possible, but it would probably run very slow on our 528mhz processors. Maybe when Snapdragon and Tegra get more popular it would be more viable, but even then I don't think anybody will take the time to do it.
However,
In just over a month the WinMo Marketplace is supposed to be launched, I think when we see an app store for WinMo coming pre-installed on all new devices there will be a lot of the *fun* type apps that *regular* consumers want on their phones.
As of now average joe doesn't come on to XDA-Dev often, if at all, and most of the people writing applications are doing it for free because they're developing apps they want, not apps they're planning on making money off of. Don't worry guys, the Marketplace is coming soon!
Ok, so my 2 years are up and I want this phone. Easy pick right? No. I was on youtube researching about this phone and I want it yet someone said the graphics card sucks in the phone so ps1 emu, cod2 accelerated, quake 3 port (what I really want from this phone) wont work because of the "sucky graphics card" yet I don't trust this person and I want a pros help for a descent desiton. I signed up for this forum for my phone if it can run those things because I want to play them. So if it can plese tell or even better maybe a screen shot or video to tell me that it will work.
Thank you for your time from a new phone noob.
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Ok, so my 2 years are up and I want this phone. Easy pick right? No. I was on youtube researching about this phone and I want it yet someone said the graphics card sucks in the phone so ps1 emu, cod2 accelerated, quake 3 port (what I really want from this phone) wont work because of the "sucky graphics card" yet I don't trust this person and I want a pros help for a descent desiton. I signed up for this forum for my phone if it can run those things because I want to play them. So if it can plese tell or even better maybe a screen shot or video to tell me that it will work.
Thank you for your time from a new phone noob.
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the video card itself is fine, the problem your untrusted source was oblivious about was the fact the accelerated video DRIVERS were never released for the video chipset of this phone (HTC Vogue aka Touch)
There are some modified drivers for video and general use that are cooked into the custom ROMs as a standard, but for enulators and full on gaming - dont expect PS3 or even PC style graphics - you wont get it, matter of fact if you google search there is a signup for a class-action lawsuit on a site of people trying to create and port over working drivers, but seeing as the Touch is no longer itself in production I wouldnt hold my breath on HTC responding to it
Detroit Doug
ok that still leaves my question I know the 3 phone games I listed arnt that great graphics even a moded quake 1 port is added to the list of what I wanted but you never answered my question very clearly. Can I run those games? If not is there a way it could? thanks
Sorry about the double post yet what about if I cannot run any of the games I listed even with modifications to the phone software what phone would be better Htc Diamond Htc touch pro or Samsung Omnia. But answer my forst question before a recommendation thx
Sorry I cant really tell you the quality of the games you want to play as I dont use my phone like a Nintendo DS or whatever - its a phone, internet device, texting device and so on, games at best that I do play on it is like Uno, Solitare, breakout clones and the like
When I have tried emulators and SOD and the like I didnt like the weird controls and such so I decided to use this phone as it was intended with lite games included as if I wanted a PSP I would have gotten one LOL
Someone with the time to play the games and fight with them will have to answer those specific questions directly I had the info I shared in regards to the first part of the question about the Hardware/Software of the device in question
Detroit Doug
I do have a cfw psp but I dont intend to use it as a awsome game device I just am wondering do they work like the cod2 that was accelerated would that load or not that was the point
I have made my mind to switch to an Omnia it looks good and is figgin powerful so I dont need help no more
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I have made my mind to switch to an Omnia it looks good and is figgin powerful so I dont need help no more
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My mom has the Omnia, and at first, it seemed very cool. After playing with it, it seems to be very sluggish, and only slows down more and more over time, until you do a soft reset. When you turn the phone on it's side, it takes a good while to catch up with you, and sometimes you have to turn it back and forth before it will even flip orientation. I was jealous at first when she got it, but after playing with it, she couldn't pay me to trade her that Omnia for my Vogue.
yea i just got the vogue as well and my ex's sister has the omnia, and the updates or lackthere of make that thing crap the omnia is still being distributed with a early and buggy 6.1 build i was playing with last summer so far i feal the vogue will end up being the best vzw ppc till the touch pro 2 comes out hopefully w/o crippling its memory
eww the omnia
get any divice thats htc
best thing ever
i recoment the htc touch vogue but for games i guess get the touch pro
or the nintendo ds lol
I'm sorry, but I did not know where to put this.
Anyways, I had an idea (like everyone does) for a new game for the G-sensor on the Omnia, or any other devise that its supported in. Loco Roco has been available for download on ppc's for a while now, and I thought it would make the game much nicer if it was g-sensor... Because I failed my coding class (Our teacher didn't expplain anything, I was hoping that some developer out there could try to make this possible.
If the game doesnt have open source, maybe someone could make a game like it? It would be fairly easy... just tilt a ball down paths to complete the level.
Here are some examples of what the game could be like:
Something like this (Overtilting = death due to gravity):
http://www.vx4.com/puzzle-games/funky-ball.html
Loco Roco (Something like the landscape, where you tilt to get through multiple paths & collect things):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcDdLnq2x-I
FlashBall:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvUbbSYAVDk
or
Falldown:
http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/falldown2
I know a lot of you are sick of ball accelerometer games, but I think these would work smoothly, and be very fun.
Any developer who will take up the idea, I will do I can to help (Which isn't much, but, hey.)
Thanks!
Also, here is a link to the discussion on Samsung-Omnia.org -
http://www.samsung-omnia.org/samsung-omnia-games/new-accelerometer-idea/msg53364/#msg53364
There's locoroco which runs well on up to WVGA version (tested on my touch hd). BUT its java. No g-sensor support
Oh yeah, forgot that its java. Hmm. Well, I'm sure someone can make a nice game like it from scratch with support of others in the community. It would be one sweet g-sensor game.
yeah, i agree. OR, they should somehow make gpad word with java. Anyway, hoepfully once winmo market place comes out, there'll be some really awesome games.
Yeah, I really hope so.
Hey, just a question, will winmo marketplace be available for wm 6.1, or only 6.5+?
its going to be available for 6.5 when it comes out. then by the end of the year, 6.1 would be also supported.
Okay, cool. I'm afraid to put custom roms on my phone... I always think I'ma mess it up.
its really easy actually. if you have an atom device, it would really be easy. if you have htc devices, just one step extra
Any coder out there attempt to make this game? It would be very fun, and I'm sure everyone would appreciate it!
Please?
Cmon guys. Anyone want to make this?
I'm sure many people would donate, including myself
Btw... look what I found
http://www.ebookslab.info/a-g-sensor-accelerometer-game-idea.html
Wierd, eh? Its what I said, but worded a bit different!
Creepy net stalkers!
Hey..
does any1 know of any good multiplayer games for wm phones?
i too would like some multiplayer games! if anyone has come across any please post em up
i have two right now, attached .cabs!
1. chess game that supports multiplayer.
2. POCKET UNO supports upto 4 players! (i love this game)
I'm looking for bluetooth multiplayer games. I have never seen any bluetooth game for WM. It would be very nice to play with my girlfriend, since I gave her my old HTC Touch phone.
yea that would be pretty cool! ive seen a couple on the marketplace that allows u to play multiplayer via bluetooth. i would buy one of those if i had any friends with a winmo phone.. all my retarded friends have jumped on the iphone bandwagon. this is why im on the forums trying to prove to them that my phone outranks theirs. might not be because of games or apps, but more because of the ability to customize your phone and actually be different. sorry for the vent, i just dont like people who think the iphone is the best thing since sliced bread..
but back on topic, i believe i saw a checkers game on marketplace that supports bluetooth multiplayer.
ive attached a marketplace cab incase u dont have winmo 6.5!
I have been irritated with this for a while now -sure there are a bunch of games for windows mobile, but they are not up to par with our HD2's specs....it is disappointing. This is one of the reasons I am patiently awaiting to see android on the HD2, since the android market seems to have better games....sure games are not the sole reason I got the phone, but figuring that it can perform so much better than what they provide it- it is frustrating...
Well here is my theory on this:
Maybe it has something to with the fact that the HD2 came out recently (the USA ver just came out last month, the other came out less than a year ago I believe)
...a good supporting example is the iPhone, I remember when I first had the iPhone it did not have any games and not to mention it did not even have an app store for a while....but now look at it -sure it is practically completely inferior to our device, but it has a large dev community which leads to some nice apps/games (sure there are a lot of stupid ones, but you can look over those because their 'good ones' are better than our 'good ones' --besides the emulators, mind you).
I am just holding onto hope that the winmo community will be putting out nice games soon since devices similar to ours are going to be more common...also I have the hope that there will be android on our device one day which hopefully will bring some more options as well....
Other wise I guess I will have to develop my own?.....
Your thoughts/Ideas?
It's not just the games that's lacking, it's every other apps available on the market for windows versus android is lacking..
I cannot imagine that windows have a headstart of >5yrs in windows mobile while android is like <3yrs, but ANDROID have apps and games that are useable, fun and good and free or cheap to buy (JUST LIKE THE IPHONE apps)!.
What's up with microsoft ? I don't know. One thing's for sure, I will buy the android when my telco contract is up or when I sell my HD2 whichever is ealier.
See, I am still within the 30 days where I am able to return my HD2....(until the 24th that is...) but I do not think I will do so,but I am thinking about it a lot...
I do not think I will do so for a few reasons - It is actually one of the best phones out right now, also it is a lot nicer than my past phone (iPhone 2g) except for the issue discussed in the OP ...also I have not used my chance to upgrade for a few years and so I thought I might as well take advantage of it because I could have upgraded twice by now with how long I waited for a new phone ... now my final reasons for keeping it: there's nothing better for T-Mobile (for the price I got it for at least) and that I have a lot of hope of what I stated in the OP about games coming some day otherwise android will hopefully come through...
I tried to get the Nexus One, but I have a family plan and would have to pay about 500$ for it which is ridiculous to me.
BTW wj888- what do you mean 'I will buy the android..."...sounds like you are referring to a device named 'the android' which there is none (of which I know of at least)....
thoughts/Ideas?
i think that now the HD2 is available in the states that there is a good chance more apps will appear. however, it could be that developers are waiting for windows 7 on the phone and then microsoft may well provide more interest in growth.
Mike
I wonder if there is anyone with an opposing theory or something to change my mind...
return
Just return it, get, or wait for something that will make,& keep you happy. Don't second guess yourself, & wish you had waited for new device.. This will be around after the others come out, look them all over, then decide,,,, I love mine!!
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I have been irritated with this for a while now -sure there are a bunch of games for windows mobile, but they are not up to par with our HD2's specs....it is disappointing. This is one of the reasons I am patiently awaiting to see android on the HD2, since the android market seems to have better games....sure games are not the sole reason I got the phone, but figuring that it can perform so much better than what they provide it- it is frustrating...
Well here is my theory on this:
Maybe it has something to with the fact that the HD2 came out recently (the USA ver just came out last month, the other came out less than a year ago I believe)
...a good supporting example is the iPhone, I remember when I first had the iPhone it did not have any games and not to mention it did not even have an app store for a while....but now look at it -sure it is practically completely inferior to our device, but it has a large dev community which leads to some nice apps/games (sure there are a lot of stupid ones, but you can look over those because their 'good ones' are better than our 'good ones' --besides the emulators, mind you).
I am just holding onto hope that the winmo community will be putting out nice games soon since devices similar to ours are going to be more common...also I have the hope that there will be android on our device one day which hopefully will bring some more options as well....
Other wise I guess I will have to develop my own?.....
Your thoughts/Ideas?
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With WinPhone 7 coming soon, you're not going to see as much development for WinMo. I wouldn't expect many more games being made for it. And don't plan on an android port anytime soon. If you don't like the device now, return it while you can. There are going to be plenty of comparable phones in the coming months. If you don't like it now, you're gonna be wishing you weren't stuck with it for 2 years when you keep seeing all these other phones coming out that you wish you could get. Remember, WinPhone 7 is coming at the end of the year with X-Box Live support and much more gaming options. If gaming is that important to you, you should wait for something else. I'm happy playing all the old playstation games on my HD2... that's plenty of gaming for me.
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I'm happy playing all the old playstation games on my HD2... that's plenty of gaming for me.
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How? Is there an emulator available?
Edit: Found on google FPSEce
yeah I like everything about it except the fact of the non existent games. So I think I will return it and have to return to using my iPhone 2g (sigh...haha)...
is there anything out there with a 1Ghz+ CPU that works with Tmobile USA 3G? ...besides the Nexus One ?
Also, I was thinking if I keep it, I can try and sell it then use that for another phone? I guess that is not really a smart idea though right ?....
As for all of you who say you really love the phone, do you not game much on your phone to care about this issue ? What do you do with your phone, if I may ask?
I am in a tough spot ....
also another thing which might change some minds : I upgraded in the store, now Online it still will let me upgrade the same line to another phone again as if I did not even upgrade at all? Is that usual?... I Was excited when I noticed this, but I am not sure if this is how it usualy is or whats going on....so if I return it , I may loose the chance to upgrade twice ? IDK
Please advise....
Well to reply to ur question what i do with it (absolutely love everything about it)
besides using it for texting, calling, mailing i watch youtube movies, series with coreplayer. and i also play games. i am going to explain what.
you can find a lot of fun flash games on the web, use this and u can play them on ur hd2!
I also use FPsece for some fun psx games. buy a msi bluetooth gamepad if u really want optimal gaming experience. also i found some fun games in this topic. especially the one where there is only a demo available for looks really good
i hope i helped you
There are quite a lot of games out there that work for the HD2, ones I have on mine:
Kiwi
Sonic Racing
Tower Defence
Galaxy Hopper
Caver
Experiment 13
G-Invaders
PocketSand
Crayon Physics
Hunting
Tripplix
Worms
Mini Galf - Wacky World
Flight Commander
Prince of Persia
Pocket Mini Golf 2
Totem Star
Splinter Cell Conviction
Spinballs
You just gotta look for them, good places to look at the EA mobile store and Gamesloft - just to name a couple.
Quite a few are appearing on the Market Place now.
I am looking for more graphic intense games...at least some which would put some of that nice hardware to good use....
Those flash games look decent -I will try them out...
I dont know what to say I may just return my HD2 and wait for something else to come out....? Does anyone have anything to add/ mention in that regard ?
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There are quite a lot of games out there that work for the HD2, ones I have on mine:
Kiwi
Sonic Racing
Tower Defence
Galaxy Hopper
Caver
Experiment 13
G-Invaders
PocketSand
Crayon Physics
Hunting
Tripplix
Worms
Mini Galf - Wacky World
Flight Commander
Prince of Persia
Pocket Mini Golf 2
Totem Star
Splinter Cell Conviction
Spinballs
You just gotta look for them, good places to look at the EA mobile store and Gamesloft - just to name a couple.
Quite a few are appearing on the Market Place now.
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If you want simple and fun games WM is not for you simple as that. I love the fact that I can play old PSX games on my phone as I've found most of the games available on the iPhone below par. Sure they might look better, but the bottom line is that great graphics not a good game make. FF VII still blows anything available on either android or iphone away. Tekken 3 runs pretty good as does Gran Turismo 2 and I got em both for under 10€.
Doubt we'll see great mobile games on a windows based phone until WP7.
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yeah I like everything about it except the fact of the non existent games. So I think I will return it and have to return to using my iPhone 2g (sigh...haha)...
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Buy a PSP if you want a games console, it's a phone, and a very powerful one at that. With a handful of addictive games, and the entire PSX/NES/SNES/GBA back catalogue I am very happy with the games avaliable, not that I use it for playing games that's why I have a PS3, that I never use... But that's another story.
There are tons of games for Windows Mobile, and part of them work fine in HD2. So far, I have installed more than 20 games on it and I am still going for more. A lot of games have WQGA version which is good for HD2. Even VGA version is fine.
well come to Windows Mobile world.
For those who wants a good app store....buy Iphone, Android devices or Palm pre webOS.
MS dont want HD2 owners upgrade to WM7, because they want we live in dead WM app store.
PS: But we have a lot o based stock roms....nice.....we can flash HD2 with a diferent version rom, every days...lol
Doesnt anybody have the intelligence anymore to RESEARCH before going out and buying a product? Another thread where someone saw the HD2 and said "Oooh, shiny!) and bought it without having a clue what OS it runs or how it works and now moans about lack of this, lack of that. All that seems to matter to people now is whether it is free or cheap, I wonder how many people would be willing to work for free?
I despair of the human race, stupidity seems to be the new Black!
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Doesnt anybody have the intelligence anymore to RESEARCH before going out and buying a product? Another thread where someone saw the HD2 and said "Oooh, shiny!) and bought it without having a clue what OS it runs or how it works and now moans about lack of this, lack of that. All that seems to matter to people now is whether it is free or cheap, I wonder how many people would be willing to work for free?
I despair of the human race, stupidity seems to be the new Black!
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wth are you talking about this thread has nothing regarding that I "knew nothing about the OS"...
this is just another post of some condescending person looking to talk down to someone when they do not even read the specific issue...stop trying to up your post count....
any ways -I was well aware of windows mobile and I had it before in the past actually, but man I thought the games would be improved for the most part they are still the same type of games provided in WM5 - 2D cheap excuse for an 'arcade' game...they are actually the same kind of games found on every other phone out there (just about!)...believe me I had many phones and I may be young but I have seen these types of games on phones for ages and honestly since this is such a big improvement in a phone then I would have though the games would suit the hardware but no...so I guess I will be returning the HD2 and waiting for something else to happen in the phone scene...
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wth are you talking about this thread has nothing regarding that I "knew nothing about the OS"...
this is just another post of some condescending person looking to talk down to someone when they do not even read the specific issue...stop trying to up your post count....
any ways -I was well aware of windows mobile and I had it before in the past actually, but man I thought the games would be improved for the most part they are still the same type of games provided in WM5 - 2D cheap excuse for an 'arcade' game...they are actually the same kind of games found on every other phone out there (just about!)...believe me I had many phones and I may be young but I have seen these types of games on phones for ages and honestly since this is such a big improvement in a phone then I would have though the games would suit the hardware but no...so I guess I will be returning the HD2 and waiting for something else to happen in the phone scene...
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The main issue is that there are so few WinMo devices with specs this good... HD2, LG Expo, maybe a couple other. It's not really worth it to design a game that makes use of this hardware when it won't work with most WinMo phones.
But actually, I'm VERY happy with the gaming options for the HD2 with being able to play almost any psx, nes, snes, gba, etc game out there with multitouch onscreen controls. What other phone can do that? It's the only phone I can play final fantasy 7,8 & 9 on at full speed... so even if i was a big gamer, i would still pick the HD2 for the huge library of games it can emulate VERY WELL. I wouldn't want to much more gaming on my phone... I'd get a PSP for portable gaming if I was a big gamer.
not to say I am a big gamer though, just when I sit down to play some games I would like there to be some nice games available besides emulators which I can play on my PC and otherwise I do not mind not playing them so much....
This phone is already outdated as many have said and when wm7 comes out there may be people developing games for that (which would not work with previous WM devices...) so I believe by the time that comes around I will probably go and purchase a new phone since I will return this one and have some patience for a while....
and honestly, why would I spend 2-300$ on a phone, then spend another 2-300 on a PSP, then the PSP I would have to buy each game (no free games)....so I would be spending more when in actuality I am not looking for such an intense gaming experience just one sufficient to the hardware provided would do fine....
The only thing it has are emulators which I am sure other 1ghz phones can run decently as well....
In the end if I return my phone while I have the chance I can always come back and buy it again later on when something good comes up....