how to fast charge yr athena in yr car/from yr PC - Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General

yes, only by short circuiting the x and the 4 pins start a FAST recharging on regular USB cable.!! i recharged my athena, in my car, with a modified USB cable 20% in 50 minutes! before modifying the cable all i was able to achieve was 10% in 3 hours!
see also :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=387531
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=387531
http://pinouts.ru/PDA/pda_miniusb_pinout.shtml
here is a short "how to" with pics at: http://picasaweb.google.com/whvoltage/USBCableMod. i took no responsibility for any damages caused by my tutorial. i did it and it worked.
1. peel with a knife (watch yr fingers!) the molded plastic.
2. remove the metal casing with a small screwdriver. start from the part that holds the cable after this gently release the 2 parts parts of the metal casing.
3. it's time to release the contacts.
4. clean the contacts with alcohol (don't waste good wisky) for a good and fast welding.
5. the delicate part is to create the short. be fast, underneath the pins there is a relatively thin layer of plastic.
6. done.
7. rebuild the casing.
no syncing after this modification. for syincing you''l have to use an unmodified cable.
now for the real funny staff: after finishing i realized that i did it "the hard way".
why? i did it on the small and very delicate end of the cable. i am sure it is much easier to do it on bigger, wider end. i am an electrical engineer and i once upon a time i learned that a cable shortened at one end will be shortened at the other end also. i laugh at my self for about 5 minutes......
next step: an universal cable that is charging and syncing and works with my athena AND with my trinity. how? i'll add a toggle switch (this time at the wider end, hehehe).
to be continued....

Great mod...
though I actually use a diddy usb car charger made for a motorola that has a quick charge system built in. This does the trick for me with out the risk of me blowing up my Ameo and car as I am crap at soldering!
Plus 80nok here in Norway is a bargin (about 15usd)

Arctic Matt said:
though I actually use a diddy usb car charger made for a motorola that has a quick charge system built in. This does the trick for me with out the risk of me blowing up my Ameo and car as I am crap at soldering!
Plus 80nok here in Norway is a bargin (about 15usd)
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i also tried in my car a Motorola cable. no success.....
yes, there are special cables (found one that actually has 2 heads, one sync one for charging) but they are not available in my country.
athena did not "made waves" here....too big to carry...
i bought one, second hand only for my car. when i walk i carry a trinity.
the athena will be mounted in my car (beat the hell of all the navigation/bluetooth devices sold for cars).
and btw, my athena was charged from 5% to 10% in just 10 minutes!

Oh I!
Forgot to mention that the connection was very loose from the Motorola charger and after a small sqeeze or two from some pliers it fitted great. When loose the charger worked on rare occasions. After the squeeze it charges all the time and bloody quick too with no visible side effects.

HTC wall outlet charger
I have made measurements in my wall outlet charger which came with HTC Advantage X7501 and can confirm that there is short circuit between pin X and pin 4 (GND). So, looks like Advantage check this for FAST charging.

My soultion to the charging issue is I use an inverter and a wall charger from my kaiser and this works fairly well. before that the car charging kit would not even maintain the charge if gps was running.
Cheers
BR

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Cheapo eBay desktop cradles

Has anyone purchased any of the cheap ($9.99) cradles listed on ebay (http://cgi.ebay.com/For-Sprint-PPC-...m/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290202333980 for example)?
I am not expecting great quality, but I just want to know if the 8925 fits snuggly in there and that when you take it off it's not a two hands operation because the phone is jammed so hard in the cradle that it takes two hands to take it off.
Thanks.
Briefly considered it, but didn't pull the trigger. (I actually had my eye on a different model that allowed you to charge a separate battery at the same time).
My main concern with these docks is that it appears alot of stress can be put on the mini usb port (which is really the only thing connecting the two, and appears to rely on it to keep the standing phone up?) Given the RLOD issues floating about, I personally wouldn't use it...
I bought one. Its one of the squarish ones with an external extra battery charger. It works great! The Kaiser fits snuggly and relatively securely in the cradle. I don't have an extra battery, so I haven't tested the external charger. My only complaint is the LED on the front. It is always on (docked or not) and is INCREDIBLY bright. I turned out the lights in my office, and there was a blue circle projected on the ceiling from this LED! I put a small square of duct tape over the LED, and I can STILL see it! At least it is at a sane brightness level now. Anyway, I recomend this cradle, works great.
i bought two of the little UFO pod looking ones off eBay, one for home and one for the office. They both work great, but being cheap chinese made products, one of them arrived in 2 pieces because whoever assembled it stripped all the screws holding the top and bottom halves together. A little super glue and all was well. I like them and the phone does get supported by the mini usb, but also leans back to the point that it rests against the cradle itself slightly, so im not worried about over stressing the port.
ebay cradles
I have the cradle with "free" 1300Ma battery.
The mount is just a mini usb connector, sometimes is hard to align, unlike the ipaq cradles that have guide slots.
It takes a long time to charge the battery, and you can't tell which battery is being charged.
The blue light in on all the time (power), the other flashes red/green.
It's ok
i have one of those cheapo ones and its fine. initially the charge and battery charge lights were a bit random but now seem to be ok. good thing is i can charge my extended (ie thicker) battery in it as it lays flat in the back
my 2c

[Q] Electric shock or tingling effect on legend when charging

iam experiencing a electric shock or tingling effect from the body of my htc legend when charging.it goes of when i pick it up.upon placing it on some surface the same effect returns.iam a new one here,is it a faulty handset.it is there only when charging. please help
I'm pretty sure its a bad handset, a connector for charging the battery is exposed and touching the aluminum casing.
Sent from my Legend using XDA App
Your power source are not properly grounded.
its nt there when charging from my laptop
Your laptop only charges at half the rate of the AC adapter, it probably still is putting current through the aluminum case, but you don't feel it.
marclh1992 said:
I'm pretty sure its a bad handset, a connector for charging the battery is exposed and touching the aluminum casing.
Sent from my Legend using XDA App
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how is that possible.im afraid
driftcat said:
its nt there when charging from my laptop
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Well, thats because I had similar experience. I used to connect my phone to my laptop with AC adaptor (faulty battery) till one day when it was a goner, I bought a new slim OEM version which do not come with ground (2pin vs 3pin with grounding on stock adapter). Ever since, I have had electric shock whenever Im connecting to my laptop.
I have gotten electric shock when using the stock charger as well. The old wiring at my in-laws house probably the cause for it. It was okay at home.
andrekua said:
Well, thats because I had similar experience. I used to connect my phone to my laptop with AC adaptor (faulty battery) till one day when it was a goner, I bought a new slim OEM version which do not come with ground (2pin vs 3pin with grounding on stock adapter). Ever since, I have had electric shock whenever Im connecting to my laptop.
I have gotten electric shock when using the stock charger as well. The old wiring at my in-laws house probably the cause for it. It was okay at home.
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So u r saying my phone is at fault or the wiring
TL;DR, replace the handset.
Is anybody having the same fault.place the handset on a surface when plugged in to the power and rub Ur finger on to the metal part of Ur legend.
Members please see for urself.
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"iam experiencing a electric shock or tingling effect from the body of my htc legend when charging.it goes of when i pick it up.upon placing it on some surface the same effect returns.iam a new one here,is it a faulty handset.it is there only when charging. please help"
Are you sure you bought an HTC Legend? Are you sure it's not a defibrillator?
Your phone is just fine, don't worry. The effect your are feeling on your skin is caused by the charger and has nothing to to with the phone. There are some unqualified posts in this thread (e.g. problem with wiring, charging current) which should best be ignored.
To the effect itself. The charger isolates the mains power from the secondary power through the use of a transformer. Also our new small power supplies work with transformers, but operate them at a higher frequency (sometimes audible) after the main power has been rectified. But the power supplies represent also an electric capacity, and therefore the secondary output may charge up relative to ground. But this capacity is so small, that you may feel a voltage on your skin but there is no risk whatsoever. By the way, the back of the finger is very sensitive. Try to move it along metallic surfaces of other device (e.g. desk lamp) and you may fell the electric potential. The only way to completely avoid this is to use a grounded power supply, like some used to charge laptops.
Markus
yep. use groundod power supply. i have this thing when charging from my laptop and the laptop adapter is not properly grounded.
dont worry, its normal and negligible.
nethopper said:
Your phone is just fine, don't worry. The effect your are feeling on your skin is caused by the charger and has nothing to to with the phone. There are some unqualified posts in this thread (e.g. problem with wiring, charging current) which should best be ignored.
To the effect itself. The charger isolates the mains power from the secondary power through the use of a transformer. Also our new small power supplies work with transformers, but operate them at a higher frequency (sometimes audible) after the main power has been rectified. But the power supplies represent also an electric capacity, and therefore the secondary output may charge up relative to ground. But this capacity is so small, that you may feel a voltage on your skin but there is no risk whatsoever. By the way, the back of the finger is very sensitive. Try to move it along metallic surfaces of other device (e.g. desk lamp) and you may fell the electric potential. The only way to completely avoid this is to use a grounded power supply, like some used to charge laptops.
Markus
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i contacted htc support.the person over there asked me to bring the handset to the service center.r u saying i should not take it there,and avoid the whole thing
driftcat said:
i contacted htc support.the person over there asked me to bring the handset to the service center.r u saying i should not take it there,and avoid the whole thing
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Yes, keep your Legend and enjoy it...
If i had this problem i would most likely first try an other power adapter
if the problem is gone fine!!!
if not then i would send it to HTC service
I had the same problem for a while, changed the charger cable (Micro USB to USB-A bit) and it fixed it
Oh the comment about a difibrilator..........Nice!!
Mike

More Power!

Bought one of these guys to hardwire a charger in my car:
http://www.mountguys.com/product_p/mfx5v-b-micro.htm
On the charger is specifies 5V 1500mA output. Is that ok? I know it's more than stock, but I thought circuitry can step it down if needed.
Also, I'm thinking I want to hardwire to the always hot lead that goes to the radio memory function. Any chance of current problems? Don't think it will drain my battery if I leave it charging while shopping (or at the bar)
Thanks.
I'm curious why you chose to hardwire it, when the device can only pull 700mA, and these little wonders work perfectly.
Nice! Got one of these also... twice the ports and 5X the price:
http://www.amazon.com/Griffin-Powerjolt-Dual-Universal-Micro/dp/B0042B9U8Q/ref=pd_cp_e_2
Yours and mine above specify 1A... this one:
http://www.amazon.com/Charger-Samsu...96/ref=sr_1_15?ie=UTF8&qid=1318442293&sr=8-15
2.1 A.
I just wanted a cleaner look in a little sports car... the hardwire is going to come out the panel and go straight to a dock. But now I'm worried that 1500 mA could be troublesome?
It won't be troublesome, just useless.
I have a setup for my iPod that utilizes one of what I linked. I've got a USB+RCA-to-dock cable running into my center console, then into a port in there, to some empty space in front of it (under the trim, totally invisible) where my audio guys spliced a new line into the RCA jacks that came from the factory, and split off another power line. The charger's in there, cable connects to the ports... It's nice and clean.
this should be fine. the amperage rating on a charger just tells what it is capable of if requested. it is up to the phone itself to provide the requested amount of current. that is to say if this charger can provide 1500mA, but our phones can only use 750mA, your good. it is provided all the current it needs. now on the other hand, if you were charging some device that could use 2000mA(unheard of) this charger would provide all it could, the device would just charge slower.
the voltage is fine. most chargers are rated at 5v, and should be spot on as long as it is a decent brand from a trusted source. a knock off may be out of spec to what it is rated. that is where you could run in to trouble with frying a phone.
anyway, besides all that, this seems risky. not hardwiring a charger to your car, but leaving it there while you are shopping or in the bar. ever heard that an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure? id hate to come out of a bar to a broken window and no phone...
i never leave my phone unattended outside of my home.
austin420 said:
some device that could use 2000mA(unheard of)
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iPad, TouchPad, Galaxy Tab 10.1...
Guess I'm a noob.. very detailed answer in FAQ.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=802711&highlight=voltage+amps+charger
Now to find out if those pins are shorted...

short circuited my note

Hi everyone,
First of all, I apologize in advance,
1. Because I know this isn't a tech support forum.
2. Because I don't contribute and help out as much as I should.
Coming here was a last resort, I don't consider myself a noob, but I'm really stuck here.
Please note that I appreciate every single response, and I will donate if anyone can give me a fix.
With that aside, let me get started
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Okay so about a week ago, I accidentally bent my charger when it was charging my note.
It didn't charge at all that night
That morning, I blew into the charge port on my note, suspecting that dust may have been the cause.
Somehow, that helped, as my note charged fully that day, in about 2-3 hours
Then I tried charging it the next night.
It charged incredibly slowly, reaching about 70% after 10 hours charge
The next few nights were similar, but reaching no more than 40% charge after 10 hours.
It got progressively worse, it would only charge if I applied pressure to the mini-usb,
I looked around this morning, and stumbled across another guy with the same problem
(see here http://www.galaxynoteforum.net/galaxy-note-help/charging-port-issue/ )
He advised,
"Well I have figured out the issue. If you look into the charging port slot on the phone you will notice a small thin flat piece of metal which inserts into the charger. That was slanted and angled downward which would not let "ANY" charger or docking station charge correctly also causing it to drain the battery. Contacts on this piece and the phone were to close causing a minor contact draining power. I used a precision flathead screw driver and lifted the piece slightly and now works fine"
So I tried that, and it seemed to help, as the note began charging, (extremely slowly, reaching about 30%)
Then I tried pushing that "thin flat piece of metal up even further"
However, I went too far, and I couldn't fit the charger into the charge port.
So I tried pushing it back into the centre but I may have damaged one of the pins in the charge port (inside the phone)
I seen a little spark, and the note turned off.
I tried switching it on, and managed to boot to safe mode (no idea how)
So then I tried charging it, I applied pressure and managed to get it to start charging. (thank god)
This was about 30 mins ago, it looks to be holding the charge at about 20%, but it's not increasing
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I suspect one of the pins in the note charge port was snapped off.. although I'm not sure.. (it appears to be the one on the right)
1.Does anyone know how many pins there are on the charge port inside the note? (is it 4 or 5?)
2.What should I do?
If I broke a pin, it should not charge at all, right? (but it seems to be charging)
3. Do I need to replace the charge port, if so, how much would it cost?
4. Would I be better off getting a charging station, and charging the battery using that
5. Should I try moving the metal strip again? (inside the charge port of the note)
oops forgot to mention, when the problem started, and the note was slow-charging, an audible buzzing/humming could be heard in the wall outlet
also, I'm using my original samsung usb charger, not a generic one, and I'm charging directly into a wall outlet.
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Thank you for taking the time to read this, I really appreciate it, and any advise that you do offer.
Cyber735
Here my tipp: You can go to a service center, maybe they even repair it under warranty. Or you can order a new micro usb port and replace it. Google should help you to find a seller. Depends on whether you feel comfortable enough to replace it yourself or not. Oh one more thing, I would stopp using your Note to avoid any further damage.
Sent from my Galaxy Note running ICS
there are 5 pins on the charger slot, 4 I believe are for data transfer and the 5th being the one that draws power (charges the phone)
Have you tried transferring data from PC to Phone and see how that pans out ?
Its possible to replace the USB port, Ive seen a few threads about this on XDA, A quick search should chuck out some results.
But as mentioned above, Try to claim under warranty first, if you have it, or pay the Service centre to do it if you dont feel confident enough to do it yourself.
I think I recall someone with a similar issue and it cost him / her $60 for USB replacement (convert that in to your currency)
If you have a friend with a Note or a phone that fits the Note's battery you could always charge your battery in that phone and place it into yours until you get it fixed.
IF YOU MUST charge your Note ( you could if you intend to get a new USB slot) I would suggest to charge only via USB - as in charging from your PC / Laptop / TV / PS3 etc. As this will not draw as much current as it would coming directly from the mains supply!
Good luck on getting it fixed, And please keep us posted with the results !
http://pinoutsguide.com/PortableDevices/micro_usb_pinout.shtml
check this out. It gives the pin configuration. I am no expert but hope it helps!
altae said:
Here my tipp: You can go to a service center, maybe they even repair it under warranty. Or you can order a new micro usb port and replace it. Google should help you to find a seller. Depends on whether you feel comfortable enough to replace it yourself or not. Oh one more thing, I would stopp using your Note to avoid any further damage.
Sent from my Galaxy Note running ICS
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Thanks for the quick reply!
First of all, I can confirm that no pins are broken or bent, everything looks normal, it also seems to be charging better, as I centred the metal strip in the charge port.
As for warranty, well I didn't purchase any extended warranty or insurance, however, the standard warranty lasts 2 years.
Unfortunately
The Repair Warranty Exclusions are as follows: (i) Subject to the inclusions of the applicable manufacturer's warranty, a mobile that has broken down or is damaged as a result of: (a) abuse or tampering, (b) electrical damage, moisture, dampness, oxidation, corrosion or food, dirt or liquid ingress (c) accident, neglect, impact, actual or attempted theft, fire, power outages or surges, or incorrect voltage, (d) transportation or packaging (e) removable batteries or damage caused by battery leakage
Basically, the only thing that I'm covered for is "handset breakdown"
My phone is in perfect condition, and no pins are broken or bent (as discovered on closer inspection)
So do you class charging issues as "handset breakdown" or not?
I may purchase a new charger, just in case the issue is with the charger, and not the phone,
What d'ya think?
Thanks again for the quick replies azzledazzle & nipuna, I didn't notice them until now,
Yeah I'm 90% there's no damage to the pins on the charge port, and it seems to be charging now, slowly at least,
I've centered the metal strip as best as I can, (inside the charge port)
I'll leave it to charge now for a while, as I'm not sure if it's fixed or not
Then I'll try another charger if it doesn't work
If all else fails, I'll try getting it repaired under warranty
(although that's more of a last resort, as it will take a few weeks to get my phone back)
does anyone know if the standard galaxy s2 charger will work on the note?
I don't have it on me now, although I could borrow it from a friend
I know its an official samsung charger, although not sure if it's the usb or the other kind.
I'll let it charge for a while, then I'll try transferring data from the laptop, to make sure the pins are fine,
thanks for all your help everyone,
1st of all: if you go poking around in the usb port with a metal screwdriver, take out the battery first. Not only will it avoid shortcutting and maybe blow a fuse inside the phone, but it will also protect you from an exploding battery when shortcutted !
S2 charger will work
Sent from my GT-N7000 using xda premium

Qi charging problems

I ordered the official Samsung wireless cover from Amazon, slapped it on, and then put my Otterbox Commuter series over it - so far so good, everything fits reasonably well.
I go to put my S5 on a wireless charger and it charges. Then stops charging. Then starts charging again. Then stops again. Over and over it repeats this.
I get to thinking the phone is just too far away, so I take off the hardshell of the Otterbox Commuter. Same thing happens again. So I take off the soft shell - now I'm down to just the naked phone, and it's still charging on and off.
I'm using the blackberry folding blade wires, and the chargers found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/goo...udget-wireless-charger-showdown-5-qi-t2676249
Specifically, the tilted charger and rectangle with LED lights. Both are giving me the exact same on & off problem.
So does anyone know how to fix this? Is it the chargers or something I'm doing? Are the chargers just not generating a strong enough field (if so, which charger can I get that will generate a better field?)
Thanks for any help
EDIT: Clarified that wireless cover is official Samsung
xmacro said:
I ordered the wireless cover from Amazon, slapped it on, and then put my Otterbox Commuter series over it - so far so good, everything fits reasonably well.
I go to put my S5 on a wireless charger and it charges. Then stops charging. Then starts charging again. Then stops again. Over and over it repeats this.
I get to thinking the phone is just too far away, so I take off the hardshell of the Otterbox Commuter. Same thing happens again. So I take off the soft shell - now I'm down to just the naked phone, and it's still charging on and off.
I'm using the blackberry folding blade wires, and the chargers found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/goo...udget-wireless-charger-showdown-5-qi-t2676249
Specifically, the tilted charger and rectangle with LED lights. Both are giving me the exact same on & off problem.
So does anyone know how to fix this? Is it the chargers or something I'm doing? Are the chargers just not generating a strong enough field (if so, which charger can I get that will generate a better field?)
Thanks for any help
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I had the same issue with a cheap receiver I bought off ebay. The receiver was junk. I took it out of the phone and dropped it on the mat and used a multimeter to check my voltages and never got consistent readings. Tried again with the same chinese mat and the official back and no issues at all.
Kite09 said:
I had the same issue with a cheap receiver I bought off ebay. The receiver was junk. I took it out of the phone and dropped it on the mat and used a multimeter to check my voltages and never got consistent readings. Tried again with the same chinese mat and the official back and no issues at all.
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Ah, sorry, should have clarified - I'm using the (allegedly) official Samsung wireless cover, the part that replaces the entire back
xmacro said:
Ah, sorry, should have clarified - I'm using the (allegedly) official Samsung wireless cover, the part that replaces the entire back
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I am having similar issues using a Palm wireless charger I custom made. I believe the issue is the connection from the cover to the pins on the device next to the battery. I am going to try adjusting it. Also, putting the phone in power saving mode before wireless charging seems to help. Think it may have to do with the wireless charging coil not providing enough amps for the phone to keep up. Trying a different cable/wall charger may help.
xmacro said:
Ah, sorry, should have clarified - I'm using the (allegedly) official Samsung wireless cover, the part that replaces the entire back
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It could be the output isn't high enough. For the official mat you need to have a 3 amp charger for it to work. And if the output is too low, the phone may be getting confused because it is detecting a current, but not enough of one for it to be registering that it is charging. I have a car charger that has a 1 amp and a 2 amp setting, and when I try it on the 1 amp setting I get the same issue where it connects and disconnects. 2 amp and I get 0 issues.
I have a similar issue. I'm using the official Samsung S-View Wireless Charging Cover with the Nexus 5 wireless Charger. I get nothing when I put them together. I believe the output from the charger is around 2 amps and it works perfectly with my Nexus 5 (surprise, surprise...) Not sure why I don't get any response whatsoever...
Kite09 said:
It could be the output isn't high enough. For the official mat you need to have a 3 amp charger for it to work. And if the output is too low, the phone may be getting confused because it is detecting a current, but not enough of one for it to be registering that it is charging. I have a car charger that has a 1 amp and a 2 amp setting, and when I try it on the 1 amp setting I get the same issue where it connects and disconnects. 2 amp and I get 0 issues.
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I'm using a blackberry folding blade charger, the stated output is 1.8 amps, and my Samsung charger that came with the phone is 2.0 amps; both give me the on/off problem. Is 3 amps really the key? Where do you find one?
xmacro said:
I'm using a blackberry folding blade charger, the stated output is 1.8 amps, and my Samsung charger that came with the phone is 2.0 amps; both give me the on/off problem. Is 3 amps really the key? Where do you find one?
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Sorry meant to say 2 amp. But you may want to test your mat and receiver and see if it really putting out the 1 amp the other thread said it was supposed to. If you are getting an output of less than 1 amp that the other thread says it should be then that is probably your issue. Unfortunately I'm not able to measure the outputs on either of my mats to give you an idea until later this evening when I get out of work.
Kite09 said:
Sorry meant to say 2 amp. But you may want to test your mat and receiver and see if it really putting out the 1 amp the other thread said it was supposed to. If you are getting an output of less than 1 amp that the other thread says it should be then that is probably your issue. Unfortunately I'm not able to measure the outputs on either of my mats to give you an idea until later this evening when I get out of work.
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I think you may be right; it may well be the mats I have are just junk, both of them, unfortunately.
I opened up the back of the phone, and brushed off the wireless charging prongs, just to make sure they weren't dirty. Put cover back on, put otterbox commuter case back on.
Put it on the wireless charger, it cycles on/off again and again, about once per second. Take off the hard shell, leaving just the soft shell, and it cycles on/off about once every five seconds - that is, the interval actually got longer. Take off the soft shell, down to a naked phone, and works after cycling on/off about 5 times, then it settles down and stops cycling.
On another charger, the tilted qi charger, it'll charge if the phone is naked, but if I put even the soft shell of the Otterbox Commuter on it, it'll cycle a few times then just not charge at all.
I'm not sure this is a connection problem with the prongs, or a problem with the wire/charger. I think it has something to do with the field that the qi charger is generating. Since I don't know jack about the qi standard, can anyone tell me if all qi fields are equal? That is, do higher quality qi chargers produce a larger or strong field than cheap units?
Like I said in the OP, these are all very cheap chargers, $15 at most, and I'm wondering if that may be the cause.
xmacro said:
I'm using a blackberry folding blade charger, the stated output is 1.8 amps, and my Samsung charger that came with the phone is 2.0 amps; both give me the on/off problem. Is 3 amps really the key? Where do you find one?
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I use the 2A charger that came with the phone with the CHOETECH pads. The insert is the CHOETECH mat inside the cover. The pad is rated 2.1A input, 1A output. My phone cycles on-off occasionally when the phone hits 100%. I use the Otterbox Defender case.
jetskier said:
I use the 2A charger that came with the phone with the CHOETECH pads. The insert is the CHOETECH mat inside the cover. The pad is rated 2.1A input, 1A output. My phone cycles on-off occasionally when the phone hits 100%. I use the Otterbox Defender case.
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Interesting, so could the problem be due to just using a cheap generic? Seems that the cheap ones may be generating a smaller or weaker field?
Just wanted to post an update - bought a more expensive charger, one with 3 coils instead of the 1 that was in my other two - and now it charges fine, right through my Otterbox Commuter case.
So to anyone else having this problem - the field generated doesn't seem to be big enough to penetrate the Otterbox Commuter with just one coil, you need 3 or so.
EDIT: Specifially, it was the Cheotech Qi wireless charger, rectangle with LED
xmacro said:
Just wanted to post an update - bought a more expensive charger, one with 3 coils instead of the 1 that was in my other two - and now it charges fine, right through my Otterbox Commuter case.
So to anyone else having this problem - the field generated doesn't seem to be big enough to penetrate the Otterbox Commuter with just one coil, you need 3 or so.
EDIT: Specifially, it was the Cheotech Qi wireless charger, rectangle with LED
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it's not the problem with the coil, they give out the same current, it's because the angled charger is a cheap and nasty one, and the flat one is just a fake one, the official one cost alot more.
3 coils only give you a wider surface detection, the current is just the same as a single coil or a 7 coils.
The 3 coils charger you have is a rebadge of powerqi T300 which is a highly recommended one.
kms108 said:
it's not the problem with the coil, they give out the same current, it's because the angled charger is a cheap and nasty one, and the flat one is just a fake one, the official one cost alot more.
3 coils only give you a wider surface detection, the current is just the same as a single coil or a 7 coils.
The 3 coils charger you have is a rebadge of powerqi T300 which is a highly recommended one.
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Ya learn something new everyday - thanks for the info

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