sorry but - Shift General

sorry but shift have an anti-shock protection on hdd?
happened to me that when I "launch" my shift on the bed or i put in the bag very fast the shift turn of immediatly. when i turn on everything is ok.
i've seen something similar on a new acer travelmate.
but on the shift i don't know if this activity is normal or is a defection of my machine?

put it this way, when i do that my device crashes... and has to be rebooted... one reason why i'd love to change the HDD for a solid state one at some point...

This behaviour is normal (but a bit silly): A accelerator sensor detects an dangerous acceleration, usualy followed by an impact - in such an situation, the Shift is just powered off to protect the hard disk. When you turn the shift on again, it prompts you with an BIOS-Message "Drop detected"...
It's really a silly implementation of a shock protection: I'd have expected the hard disk to get in a safe park position, but not the shift to get powered off. Idiots at HTC. But i guess they wanted to safe license fees...

You can disable this "feature" by disabling 'HTC G-Sensor' in vista device manager.

no, i think it can be usefull, i wanted to know to be sure that was g-sensor to turn off my shift and not a defection of it.
effectively i saw on others notebooks hdd envelopped in more rubber and other material to make it more anti-shock! but in the little shift make it is impossible.
you think that gsensor is useless?

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Disable fall detect (g-sensor)

Anybody know how to disable this feature?
When i throw my shift in the air (about 5cm) and catch it it will power off.
I don't like this feature and i can't seem to find a way to disable it yet.
what are planning
stefanrink said:
Anybody know how to disable this feature?
When i throw my shift in the air (about 5cm) and catch it it will power off.
I don't like this feature and i can't seem to find a way to disable it yet.
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r u planning to break it.
my shift do nothing like this. maybe your shift is out of order? ??
stefanrink said:
Anybody know how to disable this feature?
When i throw my shift in the air (about 5cm) and catch it it will power off.
I don't like this feature and i can't seem to find a way to disable it yet.
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I second this request to disable the g-sensor. Mine is far too sensitive, and often locks up my Shift hard drive when I simply move too fast. It can not be good for the integrity of my system files.
EDIT: Apparently, the g-sensor is an STMicroelectronics i2c-gsensor LIS3LV02DL 3-axis inertial accelerometer.
I am hoping that I can some entry to disable for it under control panel hardware/system settings...
How does the Shift use this sensor?
Is it connected with Vista or SnapVue?
It's connected to the Vista/windows side.
The Linux gurus have worked out how to fully utilise the g-sensor for the HTC Shift. But I have not seen anyone access it using Windows.
The default factory behaviour is that a detected G threshold will park the hard drive head effectively hanging the machine, forcing you to power it off to be usable again.
I don't use Linux, instead I have windows 7 on my Shift. I tried looking through the system hardware to see if there is anything that I can disable/uninstall to disable the g-sensor, but I didn't see anything that was obviously named.
Maybe it is something to do with the BIOS.
Flanimal said:
It's connected to the Vista/windows side.
The Linux gurus have worked out how to fully utilise the g-sensor for the HTC Shift. But I have not seen anyone access it using Windows.
The default factory behaviour is that a detected G threshold will park the hard drive head effectively hanging the machine, forcing you to power it off to be usable again.
I don't use Linux, instead I have windows 7 on my Shift. I tried looking through the system hardware to see if there is anything that I can disable/uninstall to disable the g-sensor, but I didn't see anything that was obviously named.
Maybe it is something to do with the BIOS.
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I was just wondering whether it is possible to use the Shift in a car cradle on a rough road given the g-sensor behaviour stated above. I was hoping to soon get a Windows 8 Tab when they become available possibly towards the end of the year and then retire my Shift to be the CarPC. I havent done much driving with the Shift on so would be interested in knowing how it behaves in the circumstances. The roads in my part of the world are rough, full of potholes or non-existent thus my huge interest in this subject.....
mines broke lol
mine never turns off even after hard drops. twice in last 2 weeks mine went down so hard the protective case flew off. once was down concrete stairs, still running, never missed a beat.

Can I disable the hard drive?

With the advent of 32gb micro sd, plus mini sd adapters, there is no need for the microdrive. Is there any advantage to disabling it so that there is no battery drain? If so, how would I do this?.
(I did try searching for an answer to this - but the articles all seemed to concern faulty microdrives and how to get them working again, rather than actually taking them out of the loop completely)
rjstep3
I guess not, but may be, who knows?!
By the way, when device goes to sleep mode after predefined time, what happens to the HD? Does it go to sleep mode as well like Wireless gets switched off? If it does, than well here lies a clue, IMHO.
WHERE YOU BY MICRO_SD ON THE 32GB ???!!!
Try to Change Hitachi 8Gb MicroDrive on the Compact Flash Card 16Gb(32Gb, 64gb, 128Gb)
Compact Flash more Power Safety - it series Solid Drive and not have mechanics and engines.
I`m write about this smth here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=648979
rjstep3 said:
With the advent of 32gb micro sd, plus mini sd adapters, there is no need for the microdrive. Is there any advantage to disabling it so that there is no battery drain? If so, how would I do this?.
(I did try searching for an answer to this - but the articles all seemed to concern faulty microdrives and how to get them working again, rather than actually taking them out of the loop completely)
rjstep3
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Try this application "Battery Guard"
http://www.ipocketpc.net/applications/464Battery Guard.aspx
It describes itself as below and has option to turn off power to sub devices like Micro Drive and so on. I have installed but haven't gone through each modes.
"Battery Guard is an finger-friendly application that manage powering for each subdevices on PocketPC machine.This application should be usefull for someone who want to track what eating battery and make it under control. Features: set powering template for each power state of WinMo Professional device set current power mode for each subdevice backup/restore powering template support user-defined friendly names of subdevices multilanguage support (English, Polish) skin support AppToDate support"
thanks mmbika - I have just downloaded batterguard and will give it a go.
rjstep3
So, did it work?
No! At least I couldn't see any way of turning off the microdrive.
In fact I have rather gone back to the x7510 - I was trying the old one because I always liked the buttons which made everyday use so much easier. I suppose HTC dumped them to reduce manufacturing costs.
The real problem with the x7500 was one I had forgotten: it is not the old software like Opera, there are some advantages (no pun intended) like the buttons and the extra memory due to smaller OS space, but the real problem I faced was with the radio - after losing signal (like going into the underground railway) it would not pick it up again after coming out at the destination. I upgraded to 1.58, but no change, it was really annoying, the only thing I could do was to turn off the radio and then turn it on again. So in fact I have gone back to the x7510, using the old one as a spare and cycling both batteries.
thanks for the offer of help anyway,
rjstep3

[Q] Touch ignores random buttons.

Ok, so I do not think this is an issue with the screen but the OS.
sometimes a button will not work on the screen. It will just be dead. It seems pretty random too. like say I am typeing, the "D" will stop working and it will instead hit the S or F key even tho i am cleanly hitting the D.
or when I am typing and email and bring up the text cursor. sometimes it just wont like a certain line and it will jump over and under the line i want to be at.
my workaround right now is to go into landscape mode or visa vie. It is super annoying and hobbles my typing.
any fixes or suggestions?
also any way i can make the accelerometer more sensitive to me reorientated it. it seems a bit slow.
does nobody else have this problem?
is there a way to do a screen re-calibration?
well probably more info would be beneficial... are you using a sd card or not? have you tried a format? as for the recalibration and accelerometer, that would be a no.
The Focus tends to have this problem when it's laid down on a bed or some other surfaces. Surprisingly, a registry edit fixes it. Refer to the WP7 hacking forum.
ok, so no SD card, happens upright or laying down. i had not tried a reformat low level but i did do a regular wipe when i bought it. I used fast gsm to unlock it but i dont think that would affect it.
@spyder what sort of registry hacks should I look for?
Raptor550 said:
ok, so no SD card, happens upright or laying down. i had not tried a reformat low level but i did do a regular wipe when i bought it. I used fast gsm to unlock it but i dont think that would affect it.
@spyder what sort of registry hacks should I look for?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=938415
Ah sorry, it was actually in this forum.
this requires installing chevron right? I thought I read somewhere that cheveron no longer works?
I have been fiddleing with games and it seems in the upper right of my phone there is an unresponsive zone, weather laying down or being held
Well from that I can tell you 2 things. 1. Chevron still works. 2. There is a problem with your phone. Take it back and warranty it.

[Q] No HDD found, neither in BIOS nor in Win 7 Setup

Hi,
I am having huge problems with my HTC Shift X9500. The harddisk is not recognized, it is neither shown in BIOS nor in the Windows 7 Setup.
I already tested a new hdd and a new zif-cable.
Now at least the harddisk light is on when it boots.
Is there anything I can do?
Or do I have to install any drivers or whatever?
Thanks!
one thing that may have occured: is the cable connected right´way? HD turned 180 degrees?
Drivers of course... how-tos allaround here...
B-44 said:
one thing that may have occured: is the cable connected right´way? HD turned 180 degrees?
Drivers of course... how-tos allaround here...
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I tried every possible way to connect the harddisk. I mean drivers or any bios tricks to make sure that the harddisk is recognized.
Did you try to restore your system to a previous state?
I lately came around to see my marvell card was "lost"
and no driver update helped/ was possible.
Went back four weeks, new original driver update - et voilá!
Maybe something similar.
How can I do that? When system boots it says that I have to insert a proper boot media.
In Bios there is no harddisk shown in menu "Boot" and windows-setup also does not show a boot media.
Strange is that even Bios does not show the hd..
Any new ideas?
not really...
of course you could boot from USB
Question is if it doesn't show HDD just because Bootsectors are damaged,
or because of some physical damage in connection between HDD and motherboard.
You could take a usb-zif adaptor, connect it to a pc and take a look what happens here.
I just ordered an usb adapter so that I can test it. Thanks for all your answers.
Kingsized said:
I just ordered an usb adapter so that I can test it. Thanks for all your answers.
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I am also having the same problem. Sometimes my HD is recognized sometimes not. For a while, my Shift just showed the "not recognized" error. I assumed the HD had died. After a week or so (to my surprise), booted up (HD found) again.
Now, about 3 weeks after first "not recognized", still having problems. Cold boot's take longer and much more problematic, then restarts. Can the problem be temperature related?
My Shift runs original Vista Business (Swedish). Sorry no solution, just share your problem.
Cybog said:
I am also having the same problem. Sometimes my HD is recognized sometimes not. For a while, my Shift just showed the "not recognized" error. I assumed the HD had died. After a week or so (to my surprise), booted up (HD found) again.
Now, about 3 weeks after first "not recognized", still having problems. Cold boot's take longer and much more problematic, then restarts. Can the problem be temperature related?
My Shift runs original Vista Business (Swedish). Sorry no solution, just share your problem.
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Warmed my Shift (blow dryer) before cold boot. Shift booted on first try.
Will try the blow dryer again, the next time Shift shows the, "no HD/bootable device" error.
Shift with SSD... Have you tried it?
Cybog said:
Warmed my Shift (blow dryer) before cold boot. Shift booted on first try.
Will try the blow dryer again, the next time Shift shows the, "no HD/bootable device" error.
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Any long time users of an SSD in a Shift... Does a SSD improve the Shift? Faster boot times? Less heat? Any problems?
Thanks in advance for replies.
strange phenomenom... hasn't there been a song by kate bush? -
i just have updated my shift to 2GB, now booting and running much faster
may it be possible system updates have caused lame startup/system performance?
try system restore to a point six months back or updating hardware.
Don't remember the Kate Bush.
I have uninstalled some programs... no change. Have not tried system restores. (After many failed attempts, finally succeeded with all patches/updates for Net. Framework 4. Don't look forward to that again).
Hope that the problem with my Shift is a software (not hardware) issue. Will first try, a system restore as you suggest. And, if necessary, a total reinstall (original factory Vista).
Read somewhere that more ram means lower battery times. Is this true for your shift? Does the 2GB make a better Shift?
B-44 said:
strange phenomenom... hasn't there been a song by kate bush? -
i just have updated my shift to 2GB, now booting and running much faster
may it be possible system updates have caused lame startup/system performance?
try system restore to a point six months back or updating hardware.
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"Booting and running much faster" sounds good. Will consider these hardward updates if I can get my "no bootable device"/HD problem solved. Thanks for the system restore suggestion. Is it correct, that (besides 2GB ram) your Shift is also updated with a SSD? If yes, which? How long ago?
SSD makes it run a bit faster, gives you more storage and reduces noice. Real boot improvement you get by increasing RAM-
there are 2GB 214Pin storages available making your shift real smart.
Heat Vent on the back shows wear. Same for yours?
I'm wondering if the age of my Shift plays in. I am its original owner. Think I purchased it back in 2008. On the back of the Shift is a air vent with a metal cover with holes. Here my Shift shows definite wear & tear The metal is deformed inward & with an extra large gap. Is this usual wear?
In addition, today my Shift showed a new error "BOOTMGR is missing". Still haven't tried a six month previous (or so) windows restore. Perhaps I should. (Or a clean installation of Windows).
First try restore.
With ssd you have one moving part less, so less heat, so less ventilation running, so less battery drain...
p.s.: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2182238
Which SSD/usb-zif adapter (?) works best with HTC Shift?
"First try restore".
Tried to repair Vista Startup/bootsector files by booting from usb with Windows Vista Dvd. The Startup Repair does not recognize my Vista Installation. Nothing under "Operating Systems" (see attached image).
My Shift does not start, and can not be restored. I think my hard drive is totally dead.
Usb-Zif suggestions may be a solution for me too. Will upgrade with SSD & 2GB (not HD).
Why then not simultaneously upgrade to Win7?
Of course me myself had to pay more for Win and SSD
as paid for Shift, 2GBRam then was pure luxury...
Which works best on Shift Windows 7 or Windows 8?
"Why then not simultaneously upgrade to Win7?"
Because Windows 8 came after 7, felt Windows 8 better that Windows 7.

NuVision - TMAX ( TM800W560L / TM800W610L ) Information

I wanted to start a thread to solve some minor headaches regarding NuVision tablets. Specifically the TM800W560L, but may include others.
The manufacture is TMAX, and the brand is NuVision. Some of you have these. I picked up the 560 at the Microsoft store, a couple of days before Christmas, 2016. I ghosted the factory image as backup, and wiped clean to start from scratch, using Windows 10 Pro.
Let's say my hack started at the Microsoft Store, social engineering a sale of $25 for the unit. Yes you can get these for free, if you were buying a Windows Surface, but why would you want this if you have a Surface? It's such a terrible device to support for the sod who got one...
This unit is the most similar to the HP Stream 7, MSRP $79. I have a couple of these as well. I a bit miffed that, although the CPU is 64-bit, we can only use 32-bit Windows. This produces some problems as only 64-bit drivers are readily supported via Windows Update. I have made use of some of these drivers for the 560 to solve some problems.
Lets get down to the issues at hand:
1. The Camera drivers.
OV2680 ( OVTi2680 Ven_OVTi&Dev_2680 )
OV5648 ( INT5648 Ven_INT&Dev_5648 )
Problem: For every Windows Feature Upgrade, the drivers are wiped out and replaced with some non-functional version. Frankly, I don't think I have been able to get the cameras to work at all. At least, not by using the Windows 10 Camera App. I pulled a litany of drivers from various sources and I can get them to at least seem okay, as far as the device manager is concerned, but not much beyond that.
2. Intel Chip Set drivers.
Problem: Much like the camera drivers, for every Windows Feature Upgrade, the chipset drivers are updated as well, but then the supplied drivers are non-functional. This results in the lost of touch and gravity sensors, among other functions. This requires the use of a USB OTG adaptor, (Yes you can have USB and power at the same time!) and reinstallation of the original chipset drivers.
All in all I get the sense this is abandoned technology, and I feel that no-one particularly cares. In addition, I am a little bored with this thing, and I would like to see if I can make it better.
If anyone has questions or advice, I am open minded, but it should be sincere.
Thanks,
I picked the TM800W610L. I will see if the camera drivers and chipset drivers from this model will work for the 560. However NuVision has reduced their driver set to bare bones. In some respects this is admirable, but in my case, it leaves little hope that there's any 32bit support.
For the uninitiated, the 560, although has a 64bit CPU, the BIOS only boots 32bit Windows. This is the same situation on the same CPU, for the HP Stream 7, which I am also leveraging for support.
I have been able to dig around a little bit, regarding the BIOS firmware, for both models. Geekbench is a nice repository of data, for a shallow dive.
This is what I have, for known BIOS revisions:
I have the installer for version H, supporting the 610.
I can backup version R, installed on my 560.
If anyone is interested in an "update" from an older version, it would be interesting to get a backup of what you currently have in exchange for an update.
TMAX TM800W610L
JK-BI-8-HLK80CR100-C34A-101-F-LCD3 08/01/2016
JK-BI-8-HLK80CR100-C34A-101-H-LCD2 ‎03/02/‎2017
TMAX TM800W560L
JK-8-BI-PX5S10TCR100-X534A-001-G
JK-8-BI-PX5S10TCR100-X534A-001-H
JK-8-BI-PX5S10TCR100-X534A-001-L
JK-8-BI-PX5S10TCR100-X534A-001-O
JK-8-BI-PX5S10TCR100-X534A-001-P
JK-8-BI-PX5S10TCR100-X534A-001-Q
JK-8-BI-PX5S10TCR100-X534A-001-R 08/25/2016
JK-8-BI-PX5S10TCR100-X534A-001-T
I just picked one of these up myself (the TM800W560L) and am working on getting it upgraded to Pro (and put on the Insider preview program, because I like my devices consistent) at the moment. I was a little sad to see that these machines have 32-bit UEFI effectively making the 64-bit enhancements useless and limiting software support to 32-bit only (that immediately threw out my plans for using WSL/Ubuntu on the thing since Windows Subsystem for Linux is a 64-bit only feature), but after a couple hours with this tablet, I'm really enjoying it. It took about 4 hours to install the latest batch of updates, but unlike your own experiences, all my drivers still worked after the upgrade from 1511 to 1709 (Build 16299).
I did see some very negative reviews for the product on Amazon, mostly about customer support, so I knew what I was getting into when I ordered it.
EDIT: My gripes about the device were apparently for a defective device. Got a new one after the note below caused a brick and have had a much better time with it.
Important! For my first real contribution to this thread, I wanted to give a warning, don't mess with the BIOS options if you can help it on these devices. I simply changed the "Boot to State when Power is resumed" from G0 to S5 and the tablet no longer powers on. It's charging, but nothing is happening from the buttons. So I guess it's to the exchange with this one.. Learned for the next one though :/ [Update: Turns out that it caused an actual brick, lesson learned, don't mess with the Power Management firmware settings! There's no good way back from a brick caused by UEFI firmware settings, you apparently have to reflash the BIOS using an SPI programmer to fix those. These manufacturers really should be designing their firmware better (and not using 64-bit firmware on a 64-bit processor, shame on them for that travesty!)]
Edit 2: I ran into an actual issue that I can reproduce pretty frequently. With the native Windows auto-rotation on, going from Landscape to Portrait (or vice-versa) leaves the touchscreen in this weird state where it's still looking for touch input from the previous orientation. Not sure if this is a Windows 10 version 1709 build 17043+ bug, but it appears to be, as the issue does not happen if I turn rotation lock on and manually change orientation. It's an interesting issue to say the least. [It appears after browsing the feedback hub that this is indeed a Windows 10 Insider bug, if you are affected by this, turn off auto-rotation and then manually rotate the screen using Settings, the touch input works as expected then.]
Hi, thanks for the great info! I'm trying to start a little robot makerspace and wanted to mount these little cheap tablets on mobile robots. The only issue appears to be not being able to use USB devices while supplying external power to the device. It sounded like you mentioned this is somehow possible, could you elaborate on that?
Thanks!
Jesse
ShadowEO said:
Edit 2: I ran into an actual issue that I can reproduce pretty frequently. With the native Windows auto-rotation on, going from Landscape to Portrait (or vice-versa) leaves the touchscreen in this weird state where it's still looking for touch input from the previous orientation. Not sure if this is a Windows 10 version 1709 build 17043+ bug, but it appears to be, as the issue does not happen if I turn rotation lock on and manually change orientation. It's an interesting issue to say the least. [It appears after browsing the feedback hub that this is indeed a Windows 10 Insider bug, if you are affected by this, turn off auto-rotation and then manually rotate the screen using Settings, the touch input works as expected then.]
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I can confirm the strange rotation behavior, on the 610L. I got out of it by hooking up an OTG cable, keyboard and mouse.
Boot up and log in, rotate to landscape and reboot, not messing with the touch screen. After the reboot, the touch screen worked in landscape, and seems to be in sync again.
I installed 17083, that was a chore, and all seems well. However I am getting app crashes, which I think is an OS issue. (currency ran sfc /scannow - no probs. And dism /online /cleanup-image /startcomponentcleanup /resetbase) Next is to run chkdsk and reboot... I have no real hope this will take care of things until the next fast build, which could be in a week or two at the moment.
To get the recent build installed, I had to run a custom script, to clean up all the known temp and softwaredistribution/downloads folder. Additionally I removed the upgrade assistant and one drive. Then ran the Windows Update trouble shooter, and ran (compact /compactos:alwasy) and set NTFS compression on the C drive, ignoring all errors. I was able to get 16GB free, and finally able to install the latest Fast Insider's Build.
Some of these things are not recommended, however extreme conditions require extreme measures... 32GB MMC Crive is a bit restricted.
jjurban55 said:
Hi, thanks for the great info! I'm trying to start a little robot makerspace and wanted to mount these little cheap tablets on mobile robots. The only issue appears to be not being able to use USB devices while supplying external power to the device. It sounded like you mentioned this is somehow possible, could you elaborate on that?
Thanks!
Jesse
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I am having mixed results here. I plainly am not getting good results with an OTG/HUB combo with three power settings. I am not getting power and USB/date to the micro USB port, as the same time. It's either/or.
610L - Nope, one or the other. I originally thought it was possible, but it's not.
560L - Nope, just confirmed, same result as the 610L - will charge in power+data mode, while completely off.
I have confirmed as well, 17063 build, on both the 610L and the 560L, has this strange screen rotation, mouse, touch screen orientation lock thing. That is, the screens rotate, but the touch alignment does not. The mouse pointer only moves in the same space as if it was prorate mode. Touch is fully prorate mode, while the screen rotates to landscape. Then got the BSOD (green screen)... Rebooting while in landscape mode, (requires a mouse), does fix the issue. Touch alignment comes back with screen rotation. (works on both models)
I see a future problem which I think we will have to address on our own. No help from TMax/NuVision I suspect.
When the microcode is finalized by Intel, we will have to come up with a solution to update the code, to protect against Meltdown and Spectre.
I have doen this before, prior to Compaq merger, on the HP VLi8 and VL400. But I don't know if it's possible to inject new microcode on the TMax firmware/bios update.
As you can see above, I have listed a number of firmware for our tablets, I am hoping we can work with some recent purchasers and see if there's an arrangement, where we could come to trade.
The USB OTG ACA support is weird. There are times it does work and times it does not. I have two USB OTG hubs that support supplying the tablet power while USB OTG is in use. With one hub, this works fine; with the other though, it will either not charge, or it will claim to be charging, but I assume not receiving enough power on the tablet side to charge the tablet enough while it's in use. It does however work, I have used it multiple times already with my 560L.
As for storage space, yes, I recommend running
Code:
compact /compactos:always
after each update. You can also get away with storing your user profile on the MicroSD card (and applications, thus rendering the internal storage an OS only drive)
As for my previous complaint about screen rotation, this disappeared after the upgrade to 17083. It was confirmed to be a problem with the Desktop Window Manager service by Microsoft and even had a fix posted to the Feedback Hub entry for the issue.
@CraveTech It may indeed be possible to modify our firmware, but the risk of doing so may outweigh the benefits. Windows already has user-mode mitigation of Spectre and Meltdown that isn't dependent on the microcode to be installed. We also have to worry about the possibility of bricking the devices without recovery (at least in my case, as I don't have access to an SPI programmer, nor do I feel comfortable cracking this thing open) seeing as a single option change in the BIOS effectively bricked the device.
anyone try to unrar the current image from nuvision for model w610L
test the archive and i get errors.
same with drivers.
tried newest unrar and also older version.
wtf??
ShadowEO said:
The USB OTG ACA support is weird. There are times it does work and times it does not. I have two USB OTG hubs that support supplying the tablet power while USB OTG is in use. With one hub, this works fine; with the other though, it will either not charge, or it will claim to be charging, but I assume not receiving enough power on the tablet side to charge the tablet enough while it's in use. It does however work, I have used it multiple times already with my 560L.
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What is the model of the one that works for you?
I just got a TM800W610L the other day and have been looking for one that works with this tablet.
Thanks
netstat_EVO said:
What is the model of the one that works for you?
I just got a TM800W610L the other day and have been looking for one that works with this tablet.
Thanks
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the exact hub I had the best experience on so far (I am still buying and trying hubs) was this one: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00LTHBCNM/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
It charged when it said it was charging and had no qualms with the other devices. There's a Cerrxian branded 4-port rectangular hub which doesn't seem to work well at all for my devices. Even when the Cerrxian says the system is charging and the system shows it, it still dies. I assume that it just isn't supplying enough power to the VBUS :/
ShadowEO said:
the exact hub I had the best experience on so far (I am still buying and trying hubs) was this one: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00LTHBCNM/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
It charged when it said it was charging and had no qualms with the other devices. There's a Cerrxian branded 4-port rectangular hub which doesn't seem to work well at all for my devices. Even when the Cerrxian says the system is charging and the system shows it, it still dies. I assume that it just isn't supplying enough power to the VBUS :/
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Interesting. I had seen that one on Amazon and quickly glossed over it since it had a switch for OTG/Charge, so I assumed it couldn't do both simultaneously. At $7 I'd say it's a cheap enough experiment though. Thanks for the info.
netstat_EVO said:
Interesting. I had seen that one on Amazon and quickly glossed over it since it had a switch for OTG/Charge, so I assumed it couldn't do both simultaneously. At $7 I'd say it's a cheap enough experiment though. Thanks for the info.
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Ya I was surprised too, but it worked with my Nexus 7 and LG G2 with their ACA enabled kernels. I had to fidget with the switch a little before charging started, but I was able to confirm in Ubuntu Touch on the Nexus 7 that it still saw the USB devices via lsusb. I seem to have lost that exact hub within the past week or so, but I had used it last month to charge the tablet while reinstalling Windows from my flash drive with a keyboard and mouse attached. I can't testify that it actually charged the device since I hadn't been able to see percentages (being in Windows setup and all), but the charging indicator was on, the screen was as bright as Windows normally makes it when charging, and it didn't die while the device was at ~15% battery before starting the installation. The Cerrxian hub couldn't do that and the tablet died while attempting installation, So I assume it was charging the tablet, or at least provided enough power to keep the device's battery stable.
I also just bought another 3-port hub from Acasis, another Chinese company making these cheap devices, but so far, I have yet to get that hub to charge the device either. So it seems that this is a very specific type of configuration inside the adapter, but the device does support OTG+Charge.
That said, Windows itself (at least the desktop versions) does not actually support this feature according to Microsoft's USB driver documentation. That it works at all seems to be a bug in the USB driver, or perhaps the adapters are doing something strange to trick the device into pulling down it's own VBUS and using the external one, possibly independently from the OS (Firmware USB drivers maybe?).
Does anyone have screenshot of the BIOS main menu and the save and exit screen? I'm trying reset to the bios. I was messing MIPI and eDP. I thought eDP was meant for external display port.
lol I fixed it. I gamble on different version of this tablet. I press F3 and Left arrow key for yes and enter. Then I press F4 and Left arrow key for yes to save and restart.
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Does anyone have screenshot of the BIOS main menu and the save and exit screen? I'm trying reset to the bios. I was messing MIPI and eDP. I thought eDP was meant for external display port.
lol I fixed it. I gamble on different version of this tablet. I press F3 and Left arrow key for yes and enter. Then I press F4 and Left arrow key for yes to save and restart.
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Glad to see that you fixed it. I would recommend against modifying the firmware settings if you can avoid it, especially any power management settings as changing one of those can completely brick the tablet leaving you unable to even enter the firmware.
EDIT 2/27: I came across my other OTG hubs and have some bad news, it appears that the OTG+Charge works on the 560L, but doesn't on the 610L. Perhaps NuVision changed USB chipset revisions between models?
Just picked up the 610L last week for $66 as a small option to use a program I need mobile. Updated to 1709 after a struggle (why Microsoft, why?).
Ran great for a week and now it’s starting to freeze and BSOD with mainly “Clock Watchdog Timeout”.
Not really getting any indication of why, I know I can run a log dump, but I often can’t get it to stay on log enough. It will even hang and crash when trying to wipe/revert.
Anyone have any suggestions?
Been a long time since I was active around here
update:
Was able to locate the stock ISO files and made a bootable usb. It’s currently restoring back to OEM status.
The installer is another language, but it’s working.
I think I won’t be install updates until I finish this project I have to do.
Another update:
Getting an intel framework and thermal error in the logs, which I notice while the device gets hot while charging and operating. If I let things be without charging it stays cooler.
I’ve only had had one BSOD and it was for System Service Exception but the logs don’t show much.
I let things update overnight with it plugged in and the screen off and it was still operating this morning.
Not sure if this is a driver issue or not. Seems that way.
Been trying to restore this but get an hour into the nuvision software and it times out. Anyone have an idea how to get this back to stock?

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