Hello all ..
i am Mohammed from Egypt it's first time to use HTC TYTN 2 and it's wonderful device ... i have a question about something .. i bought my tytn2 5 days ago and when i looked into the usb slot there was this thin gray plastic that has the copper pins in it .. i noticed a small crack in the last right quarter of this gray plastic which make this gray plastic not completely horizontal it's bent down at last two pins from the right .. lol i know it little weird but i want to make sure that this is not manufacture defect .. and if it was i would replace it
thanks all and i hope that someone will tell me whether if i was right or wrong
Hi Mohamed,
Welcome to XDA-DEV's and to the Kaiser (=TyTN II) world !!
I'm sad to tell you I think this gray piece MUST be horizontal and rectangular.
There's a possibility that somebody put the stylus in the USB connection hole instead of the Soft-Reset hole (near to it).
** Possibly your USB connection does not work properly ** so that, if you have the chance, ask for another device or to repair this one.
Have good luck, and don't stop visiting and collaborating with Xda-dev's !!
thanks m8 i told that to HTC supprot here in egypt but they told me that if the charge is working well and sync too so it's ok and if something happen i would go to them and they will change the usb slot ... so what do u think shall stay with this device or make a problem to change it even if it works in charging and sync very well !!!!
hdlhkhgikn said:
thanks m8 i told that to HTC supprot here in egypt but they told me that if the charge is working well and sync too so it's ok and if something happen i would go to them and they will change the usb slot ... so what do u think shall stay with this device or make a problem to change it even if it works in charging and sync very well !!!!
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A suggestion from my experience: take a copy of all your communications with technical service, etc. so that if you have problems, you'll be able to ask again without loosing warranty.
If you have the chance to have a new device, I think it's better - maybe you can sync or charge "today" but not "tomorrow", or you can't use another cable or headphones.
Even, if you want to sell your device, it looses value with the broken piece.
thanks m8 i will do what u just said .. thanks so much
Hi m8´s
I´m looking for a solution to get my phone back alive.
Due Bad Rom Flashing i bricked my Ciphone, i have checked severall
Boards & Forums to get the pinlayout for RX / TX / GND with no luck.
Phone is dead and doesn´t react on Power , or combination
Power/Volup/Reset/Start
I opened the phone to check PCB for RX/TX mark with no luck
it has a 30 Pin connector similar to the Iphone/ipod
I f anyone has a hint for me would be awesome
thx
needle
Re
Hey Needle2k, have you asked on this thread, these guys are trying to build a C6 kitchen so they might have a bit more info on the ciphone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=591899
Also, the guys with all the info for your phone are the Chinese sites and Russians
Secc
secc123 said:
Hey Needle2k, have you asked on this thread, these guys are trying to build a C6 kitchen so they might have a bit more info on the ciphone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=591899
Also, the guys with all the info for your phone are the Chinese sites and Russians
Secc
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hi m8,
thanks for the hint, but i´m already in that thread.....
still searching for help ... so if anyone knows some ... please let me know
thx
needle2k said:
Hi m8´s
I´m looking for a solution to get my phone back alive.
Due Bad Rom Flashing i bricked my Ciphone, i have checked severall
Boards & Forums to get the pinlayout for RX / TX / GND with no luck.
Phone is dead and doesn´t react on Power , or combination
Power/Volup/Reset/Start
I opened the phone to check PCB for RX/TX mark with no luck
it has a 30 Pin connector similar to the Iphone/ipod
I f anyone has a hint for me would be awesome
thx
needle
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I have same problem, but I try connect Ciphone via RS232-TTL converter, so with no luck. Pinlayout ciphone connector is similar to the original iPhone/iPod, pin 18, 19 and 20 (RX,TX and GND). Software IDT still doesn't detection phone. I'm very unhappy and I don't want to send my phone to seller, because I don't pay fee of shipment.
Hi all !
I'm writing here because i'm facing a problem with a "SAMSUNG Galaxy 3" // aka // "Samsung GT-I5800" ...
Someone gave it to me because it seems to have bricked the phone during a flash process.
I really don't know if it is electricaly dead or just if the BOOT part of the flash is corrupted.
What i tried :
{VOLUME DOWN} + {HOME} + {POWER}
{VOLUME UP} + {HOME} + {POWER}
301kOhms resistor trick on pins 4/5
I'm now wondering if the phone is dead or not ...
As the phone is quite new (!!!) i would have liked to test some things, like JTAG on the port reserved to it on the motherboard.
What i don't want is buying some kind of external JTAG devices like ORT or RIFF.
By the way, i have skills in programming ; electronics ; computers.
I have an arduino that could be used for interfacing the JTAG port to the PC serial port.
I'm not very sure about the JTAG pinout on the motherboard.
I found some informations at RIFF website about the JTAG PINOUT :
If someone can tell me how to use this JTAG port to inject the bootloader inside the flash, it would be very cool.
Thanks !
simkard said:
Hi all !
I'm writing here because i'm facing a problem with a "SAMSUNG Galaxy 3" // aka // "Samsung GT-I5800" ...
Someone gave it to me because it seems to have bricked the phone during a flash process.
I really don't know if it is electricaly dead or just if the BOOT part of the flash is corrupted.
What i tried :
{VOLUME DOWN} + {HOME} + {POWER}
{VOLUME UP} + {HOME} + {POWER}
301kOhms resistor trick on pins 4/5
I'm now wondering if the phone is dead or not ...
As the phone is quite new (!!!) i would have liked to test some things, like JTAG on the port reserved to it on the motherboard.
What i don't want is buying some kind of external JTAG devices like ORT or RIFF.
By the way, i have skills in programming ; electronics ; computers.
I have an arduino that could be used for interfacing the JTAG port to the PC serial port.
I'm not very sure about the JTAG pinout on the motherboard.
I found some informations at RIFF website about the JTAG PINOUT :
If someone can tell me how to use this JTAG port to inject the bootloader inside the flash, it would be very cool.
Thanks !
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stop all those experiments. You will destroy your phone. Go to a Samsung Service Centre. It could help.
I can destroy the phone because i don't care about it, and, moreover, no one will cry if it burns/explodes/anything else.
I can do wathever i want on it.
By the way, by saying "whatever" i mean getting it back on its feet.
So i want to do it by myself.
I'm sure this is not much hard way to do it as there is already a JTAG port which can permits to talk directly with the CPU.
I found something from QUALCOMM : QPST (Qualcomm Product Support Tools) which is compatible QSC6270 CPU (inside the GT-I5800).
With that it is possible to flash firmware/bootloader etc directly inside the device !
simkard said:
I can destroy the phone because i don't care about it, and, moreover, no one will cry if it burns/explodes/anything else.
I can do wathever i want on it.
By the way, by saying "whatever" i mean getting it back on its feet.
So i want to do it by myself.
I'm sure this is not much hard way to do it as there is already a JTAG port which can permits to talk directly with the CPU.
I found something from QUALCOMM : QPST (Qualcomm Product Support Tools) which is compatible QSC6270 CPU (inside the GT-I5800).
With that it is possible to flash firmware/bootloader etc directly inside the device !
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The phone is certainly dead. Bootloaders gone.
You have to buy a riffbox to do this as the bootloader repair files is contained by it. And I don t think you can get those anywhere else. Buy a Riffbox. Read the manual by which you can find out the pinout using voltage readings. You ll also get support on there wesite with the pinout. Once you get the pinout major problem is done.
Cool stuff this you are doing.
android.aimad said:
stop all those experiments. You will destroy your phone. Go to a Samsung Service Centre. It could help.
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pls do not listen to the above post....
ur looking for somthing like this project -
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1000175
basicaly this is possible and can bring a brick of any form back to life...
i think u can achieve this! i also see some pins at the back of the phone
under the battery.....
i strongly advise you to read the FULL thread and search some more!!
if u achieve this we may even get an ubrickable mode!
u may need solderinng skills...
i dont know much but i will try to help!
dhirend_6d said:
The phone is certainly dead. Bootloaders gone.
You have to buy a riffbox to do this as the bootloader repair files is contained by it. And I don t think you can get those anywhere else. Buy a Riffbox. Read the manual by which you can find out the pinout using voltage readings. You ll also get support on there wesite with the pinout. Once you get the pinout major problem is done.
Cool stuff this you are doing.
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In fact, i don't even know how to use JTAG port neither how to talk with the CPU by this port.
But, some people can manage to do it, i will ... !
I just need some people to help me with this, and after i will be able to release a software that can run on an arduino (for compliance with a lot of phone models) and, firstly, a flash program under windows that will use the COM port of the arduino to talk to the JTAG connected device.
simkard said:
and after i will be able to release a software that can run on an arduino (for compliance with a lot of phone models) and, firstly, a flash program under windows that will use the COM port of the arduino to talk to the JTAG connected device.
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That will be awesome. For a start, you need to find out the voltages required so that you can access the ROM(PROM) of the bootloader to rebuild it. Will also need the varous voltages for the various pin outs. And I have absolutely no idea about that. Maybe someone with previous expierence and can help you. I doubt there are any in our G3 forum though. :/:/
dhirend_6d said:
That will be awesome. For a start, you need to find out the voltages required so that you can access the ROM(PROM) of the bootloader to rebuild it. Will also need the varous voltages for the various pin outs. And I have absolutely no idea about that. Maybe someone with previous expierence and can help you. I doubt there are any in our G3 forum though. :/:/
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Ok, i know that the voltages seems to be based on +2.8V but someone managed to get it working fine on +3.3V (Arduino is able to deliver +3.3V, by the way, we can use a small component that allows conversion from one side +5V to another +3.3V (plugged by Vcc on the +3.3V of the arduino).
I must give it a try.
But, right now, i'm absolutely lost on JTAG way to talk on the lines.
Moreover, i just don't even know what can i do to flash something inside the CPU/FLASH (like bootloader only which will permit the phone to boots and enter download mode).
In fact, what i'm willing to do is :
Build a Serial RS232 (PC side) to JTAG (PHONE side) interface that permits to onl flash the BOOTLOADER part of the FLASH of the DEAD PHONE.
Perhaps it could be used directly on ODIN but i doubt that the flash software would talk the same way to the CPU/FLASH on a standard USB FLASH that it would talk directly connected thru the JTAG port on the PHONE MOTHERBOARD.
AdamOutler and his frnd did something similar like this for hummingbird devices
We talked and he said if he can get a diagram of g3 with the processor area enlarged would heli him determine - or you can just look it yourself - look at the pics he posted and compare
And yes they made a program to talk to the device and allow access to download mode - even on a fully bricked device - just needs a small mod - i hope you can do it - search for his thread for more info
The program is called Hummingbird Intercept BootLoader
I think it should work on our phones coz currently it works on s3c devices (samsung proccys only) so it must work with small mods on s5p
Good luck!
simkard said:
I can destroy the phone because i don't care about it, and, moreover, no one will cry if it burns/explodes/anything else.
I can do wathever i want on it.
By the way, by saying "whatever" i mean getting it back on its feet.
So i want to do it by myself.
I'm sure this is not much hard way to do it as there is already a JTAG port which can permits to talk directly with the CPU.
I found something from QUALCOMM : QPST (Qualcomm Product Support Tools) which is compatible QSC6270 CPU (inside the GT-I5800).
With that it is possible to flash firmware/bootloader etc directly inside the device !
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ok if this is the case then I take my post back. I thought the one who gave you that wants it to be revived at any cost. If you can experiment anything with that then what you are doing is awesome. If you are able to inject a Bootloader you can make it to boot also.
But its risky, Still if you take chance you could bring up something new. By the way how this happend? Was the phone disconnected in download mode?
simkard said:
I can destroy the phone because i don't care about it, and, moreover, no one will cry if it burns/explodes/anything else.
I can do wathever i want on it.
By the way, by saying "whatever" i mean getting it back on its feet.
So i want to do it by myself.
I'm sure this is not much hard way to do it as there is already a JTAG port which can permits to talk directly with the CPU.
I found something from QUALCOMM : QPST (Qualcomm Product Support Tools) which is compatible QSC6270 CPU (inside the GT-I5800).
With that it is possible to flash firmware/bootloader etc directly inside the device !
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good work but the qsc6270 is actualy only the call proccessor of the phone...
the cpu of the phone is s5p6442 which is a slight variation of s5p6440 which are
both made in-house by samsung....
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pls rename this thread and request to move it to the dev section!
this project belongs there!
android.aimad said:
ok if this is the case then I take my post back. I thought the one who gave you that wants it to be revived at any cost. If you can experiment anything with that then what you are doing is awesome. If you are able to inject a Bootloader you can make it to boot also.
But its risky, Still if you take chance you could bring up something new. By the way how this happend? Was the phone disconnected in download mode?
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In fact, i don't know at all what happened to the phone.
I think it must have been injected by some kind of corrupted image.
As i don't know what happened directly to the phone, i know the guy who did the trick.
... And i know that he's a really mess up for electronics ... so i think he must has been using ODIN but he had used wrong files conducting the phone to be unbootable, and moreover : BOOTLOADER FAILED !!!
Everytime i flash a phone, the only thing i let on its place is the bootloader because if something happens during flash process : PROBLEM
And even if during flash process there is no problem, who knows if the bootloader injected is good ? perhaps it could be a dictionary page ?
I'm actually waiting for a part to come in my postbox.
This part is this thing : http://www.ort-jtag.com/shop.php?ID=32
With this, i will be able to connect myself (or anything other part of my body ) to the JTAG connector of the phone without destructing it by soldering like an old'parkinson guy !
But, i'm running into some kind of complexity with the flashing process because it seems that "AdamOutler and his friends" already worked on a similar case (different phone model // different CPU) and encountered an encryption problem.
I need the datasheet (detailed version) of the SAMSUNG Galaxy 3/Apollo CPU's for knowing if i'm running into some kind of problems ...
I hope that for uploading a bootloader there is no RSA keys needed.
If it is the case, then, i must say right now : it's dead.
Breaking RSA encryption is not the good way.
There are other ways (like bypassing code-signature) but i have to tell you guys that i'm not really expert in these techniques !
Will be back in a few days when i will receive the JTAG connector in my postbox...
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unreal3000 said:
good work but the qsc6270 is actualy only the call proccessor of the phone...
the cpu of the phone is s5p6442 which is a slight variation of s5p6440 which are
both made in-house by samsung....
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pls rename this thread and request to move it to the dev section!
this project belongs there!
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Yes sorry, i made a mistake, what i really meant was the CPU.
So i must not had told you QSC6270 but instead : the famous S5P6442
simkard said:
In fact, i don't know at all what happened to the phone.
I think it must have been injected by some kind of corrupted image.
As i don't know what happened directly to the phone, i know the guy who did the trick.
... And i know that he's a really mess up for electronics ... so i think he must has been using ODIN but he had used wrong files conducting the phone to be unbootable, and moreover : BOOTLOADER FAILED !!!
Everytime i flash a phone, the only thing i let on its place is the bootloader because if something happens during flash process : PROBLEM
And even if during flash process there is no problem, who knows if the bootloader injected is good ? perhaps it could be a dictionary page ?
I'm actually waiting for a part to come in my postbox.
This part is this thing : http://www.ort-jtag.com/shop.php?ID=32
With this, i will be able to connect myself (or anything other part of my body ) to the JTAG connector of the phone without destructing it by soldering like an old'parkinson guy !
But, i'm running into some kind of complexity with the flashing process because it seems that "AdamOutler and his friends" already worked on a similar case (different phone model // different CPU) and encountered an encryption problem.
I need the datasheet (detailed version) of the SAMSUNG Galaxy 3/Apollo CPU's for knowing if i'm running into some kind of problems ...
I hope that for uploading a bootloader there is no RSA keys needed.
If it is the case, then, i must say right now : it's dead.
Breaking RSA encryption is not the good way.
There are other ways (like bypassing code-signature) but i have to tell you guys that i'm not really expert in these techniques !
Will be back in a few days when i will receive the JTAG connector in my postbox...
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Yes sorry, i made a mistake, what i really meant was the CPU.
So i must not had told you QSC6270 but instead : the famous S5P6442
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this is what the cpu is based on -
http://www.samsung.com/global/busin...Info.do?fmly_id=835&partnum=S5P6440&xFmly_id=
they are both the mostly the same........
u can get the datasheet and user guide but u first have to request for it....
and if they say yes they u can get it...
simkard said:
I need the datasheet (detailed version) of the SAMSUNG Galaxy 3/Apollo CPU's for knowing if i'm running into some kind of problems ...
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Many of us want datasheets of s5p6442.
You could have a look to s3c6410's Application Notes, the two chips seems to be "similar".
http://www.multiupload.com/SO87X4GKI7
marcellusbe said:
Many of us want datasheets of s5p6442.
You could have a look to s3c6410's Application Notes, the two chips seems to be "similar".
http://www.multiupload.com/SO87X4GKI7
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seems there is a jtag debug port......
maybe we can find a similar one on ours?
Tried this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1119769
We all were wondering if it would work.. So.. Try and mention here quick.. We are waiting to be proud owners...
Alex664 said:
Tried this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1119769
We all were wondering if it would work.. So.. Try and mention here quick.. We are waiting to be proud owners...
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Errr ... is it a just a bad joke or are you serious ?
pls people! that is only for softbrick!
btw any progress?
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Errr ... is it a just a bad joke or are you serious ?
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Uhh.. I'll take the answer as a NO...
Alex664 said:
Uhh.. I'll take the answer as a NO...
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Sorry for my strict answer, but, i'm not part of people that asks dumb questions without searching first on forums/google.
So yes i tried it.
... And, as i'm really paranoid, i tried it another time this morning
But ... no luck, i've got a big black brick like new ... but "hard-bricked".
So i will try to make my way to the JTAG connector and deal with it.
The JTAG connector is coming by post right now.
What i have to prepare by the way should be the code for my arduino to be some kind of an "interface" between a serial port available on my PC and the JTAG connector of the CPU of the SAMSUNG Galaxy 3 (Apollo).
Scheme should be :
[PC]:USB.port <-> RS232:[ARDUINO]:JTAG.protocol <-> [SAMSUNG GALAXY 3]:CPU.jtag
What i don't know right know is : what the hell the communication looks like on the JTAG pins ?
What i understood right now is that there is 7 pins :
XjTRSTn - INPUT - TAP Controller Reset
XjTMS - INPUT - TAP Controller Mode Select
XjTCK - INPUT - TAP Controller Clock
XjRTCK - OUTPUT - TAP Controller Returned Clock
XjTDI - INPUT - TAP Controller Data Input
XjTDO - OUTPUT - TAP Controller Data Output
XjDBGSEL - INPUT - JTAG selection. 1: Peripherals JTAG, 0: ARM1176JZF-S Core JTAG
All of these works based on "IO Power" of VDDSYS.
Voltage must be : -0.5v < VDDSYS < 4.6v
The voltage which has to be used must be +3.3v.
On my Arduino; i can use some little circuit to BUFFER and ADAPT serial communication voltage from +5v to +3.3v. This shouldn't be a problem to do it.
I need someone to help me with communicating on a JTAG port/interface.
It seems that JTAG connectors are differents from one ARM version to another.
Moreover, i couldn't find any information to know the bits order, the clock, the mode, the returning clock, etc ...
I tried to have a look at the Linksys WRT54G/GS on which there was a great JTAG community for bricked devices.
Problem is that this kind of JTAG port is not standard.
No luck on this device !
But i found some precious information inside this PDF : http://www.jtagtest.com/downloads/viatap.pdf on page 7/15.
It talks about JTAG Waveforms ... which is what i'm exactly looking for !
Knowing this i can do some code on my arduino which will be able to create the waveform, establish the HIGH and LOW states on different pins.
For now, as i said, i have a lot of projects to work on, and, i must wait for the JTAG connector to come inside my postbox !
See you guys
My htc doesnt turn on or work or charge unless i make it really cold like putting it in the fridge or freezer for a couple of mins, then it turns on by putting in battery and sticking in usb (because my buttons have snapped the flex cable) anyways it turns on and i have this russian rom flashed by previous owner, i managed to sync it with active-sync and i clicked explore it has wierd folder names like "?????" i click delete but windows doesnt let me because it says the filename should not contain "?". Then after a couple of mins maybe 2mins the phone switches off then vibrates 7 times then sometimes loads at htc splash screen?
and to make it work again ill have to make it cold again???
some details
Its a T-Mobile Version
The phone doesnt get hot?
its running windows mobile 6.5 daltt roms
and i updated the radio to Leo_Radio_15.40.50.07U_2.12.50.02_2
I think your battery is missed up, you need to replace it with a new one. try ebay.
as for the files with weird names, if they were located in your sdcard try to run checkdisk or scandisk from your computer to fix those errors.
you might want to reflash you windows rom and format your sdcard after this to prevent it from happening again, but don't forget to backup first!
Thanks for the reply!
Thanks for the reply by the way i havent got a sd card in the phone and i really dont think its the battery problem as it charges it up fine?
i was thinking i need a new motherboard as cpu is overheating but im not sure thats why im asking!
My HD2 acted like that (needed to put in fridge to work). Sent it for repairs and they replaced the motherboard.
Cheers
Yes mainboard CPU BGA issue probably.
you might find spares on this site or try buying one with a broken screen & you will have mainboard & button parts you need plus other parts can be sold on to recover costs ...
Mister B said:
Yes mainboard CPU BGA issue probably.
you might find spares on this site or try buying one with a broken screen & you will have mainboard & button parts you need plus other parts can be sold on to recover costs ...
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Ohh well i dint really want too spend money...
anyway what about that guide the one about thermal problems htc hd2,
would that work??
can you also tell me where i could find a motherboard thats working in the uk and could you give link please
thanks.
Please ive got no phone
ive got no phone!
please i really need help, dont leave me.........
The thread on solving the over heating problems is a thread on how to make a different heat sink for the HD2. And also heating the processor up to maybe solve the issues of the balling of the processor as the processor itself can not be removed without making the rest of the main board unusable. But the process that you must go through in that thread is not just for your average Joe to do. If you mess up you will be forced to replace the main board. So my advice to you if you are not skilled at such technical repair work is to just buy another mainboard or a HD2 you can harvest the mainboard from, oh and it needs to be a mainboard for the T-Mobile version too as that is what you have.
I have a personal theoory about why the freezer trick works. First is the obvious thing that it cools down the CPU and NAND chip and allows it to operate for a short period until it warms up again. The second is that cold makes matter shrink slightly, those causing a CPU that has lost some of the connections to the balls under it that make contact to the mainboard to temporally become reconnected.
newbie guide please
Okay I think for my last resort I'm going to do the guide in the thread but can somebody PLEASE make a super easy newbie tutorial on how to do it (I know it will take time but please),without the expensive equipment that I don't have. Could I use a lighter or a candle or what about the oven or a hair dryer anything that would be at home please.
Oh yeah who ever provides the information that works I will donate money to you! Only if it works (yes I do want my mother board back)
Too Late
I killed my cpu board *cry* phones comes on with black screen only!
badboyz777 said:
I killed my cpu board *cry* phones comes on with black screen only!
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I have similar problem. What did you do that killed it?