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Hi,
When i first setup my Exec using personal mode, the answer and hangup buttons on the hinge woudl illuminate when a call came in (when the unit is closed like a laptop). Now i am using it in corporate mode, the LED's don't illuminate. They only illuminate when the screen is rotated into PDA mode.
I am assuming this is a reg hack. Does anybody know what it is? or has anybody else got this problem?
Cheers
Paul
They don't illuminate when the device is closed, only when you have the screen open or facing outwards.
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They don't illuminate when the device is closed, only when you have the screen open or facing outwards.
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And very annoying it is too - especially when both buttons look so similar when not illuminated. This must be hackable?
This has got to be one of the most annoying features of the exec.
Also i have found that if the device is closed, MSVC does not recognise anything you say when activated via BT.
I have never really played with the device in personal mode as the GUI is bollox so cannot comment on if the buttons light up or not when the device is closed. But what i do know is that when it is closed the screen is switched off as if the device is in standby mode, maybe this has something to do with it.
I try to memorize the position of the green button in relation to how I always hold the phone and feel for it like a Braille board. So far I get it 75% of the time.
is anybody using the 'Personal' install on their exec? can they confirm if the LED's are illuminated or not when the phone rings when it is closed?
Cheers
Paul
Someone who's actually opened the Universal may be able to confirm this, but I suspect that the answer/hang up buttons on the hinge don't actually have LED's. I believe that they simply use the light from the screen's backlight to illuminate. As near as I can tell, they're only on when the screen backlight is on.
If that is the case, then there probably won't be a way to get them to illuminate when the case is closed, unless someone can figure out how to get the backlight to stay on when the case is closed (which would also be a big battery waster)
Brett
Yup, i can confirm this. I've just removed the cover on the top of the hinge. There is one wrapped cable coming out of the base at the right hand side. This then splits off, the main part goes up into the pivot hole, and a thinner wrapped wire brakes away from this and attaches to a small pcb which has the buttons and the LED's mounted on it.
Yes, the buttons are only illuminated when the backlight is on, but the brightness of the buttons remains constant even when the backlight brightness is turned down.
Cheers
Paul
As far as I see it, even if the backlight has to come on that wouldn't be a problem - after all, the phone is waking up in order to ring. I also often open up the screen slightly to see who's calling, then close it and press the answer button - therefore switching on the backlight initially would actually save time!
Maybe somebody knows of a "wake-on-ring" hack :lol:
I've just noticed it with my new Qtek 9000 and I was very worried, because I thought my device is broken.
But now I know this is "normal", but it's very annoying :?
I wish I had this problem! .. since yesterday my JJ seems to have those lights permanently on even when I switch the device off
Guys, I've made a program that will keep the hinge leds on all the time.
Actually this is an accidental discovery for a program I'm working on for this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=37201&highlight=
Those guys want to be able to use the keys and phone functions with the lid closed.
I'll post more in that thread, but basically closing the lid puts the hardware keys in a special state such that they are not responsive at all until the device is woken internally (eg by an incoming phone call). Actually, can someone confirm that the hinge keys work when a call comes in but the lid is closed. I presume they must, since they don't do anything else!
So, the hinge lights are on when the screen is on. But the screen is switched off when the lid reaches about 10 degrees to closing. But the hinge lights can be kept on nevertheless
Grem: are you using TCPMP or a similar program to play music etc in the background? Anything that tries to keep the phone "on" when the lid is closed will keep the hinge lights on.
V
Hi vijay555
I've actually just done a complete cold re-boot and reflashed to the original i-mate factory ROM to see if that would help, then came here in search of anyone having a similar issue.
It started yesterday, i suspect I've had an internal meltdown somewhere, plugged it into sync, noticed a few minutes later it had randomly done a warm reset and appeared stuck on the blue i-mate screen, picked it up and the sucker was hotter than an AMD without a heatsink! I suspect it's warranty time for this unit
Grem, that's worrying. What were you doing at the time? What brand/operator etc is the phone? It might be worth posting batch numbers or whatever for people that have this kind of problem so we can identify if some are worse then others.
V
It's an i-mate straight from the wholesaler no particular operator. Had it a couple of months, have seen other reports on the forum here which sound perhaps similar in that they've overheated.
hi,
I got a XDA mini. The battery cover is actually firmly attached to the phone. But everytime I touch or slightly slide the batterycover the xda turns off. So it became almost unusable (take it out of the pocket - it turns off, trying to call - it turns off)
Now I figured out that there is a tiny switch next to the battery (on the right side). Obviously it became too sensitive. I tried to tape it - it didnt help
Does anybody know how to avoid turning it off when you slide/open the battery cover? (I guess its like one of the hardware-buttons, can you turn them off? Registry?)
Or can anyone provide another solution?
I really need help - the phone is unusable.
tnx for any answer
simple , find a tooth pick that has a sharp point (easy to break toothpick) pok the switch ( lower space between the switch and its base. ) and snap the toothpick to make the switch in on direction ( upward) . you can use small paper and stik into the gap use puller , dont use metal object. it will coz short to your board. and i thnk ders no way program can overwrite it. you cant do programing if your computer is unplugged.
Are you sure there is no software way to disable it? I just thought of somewhat like "Buttonx = poweroff", like the Camera button.
Cause I wonder what happens if the switch breaks off ... Guess you cant turn it back on then.
I dipped into the registry - and there is a button-section, but i dont have a clue what those strings are for.
Well - if there is no other way - then ill try it with the tooth pick
I tried it
it worked for about 4 weeks but now its the same thing - i gues there is sth like a loose contact.
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it worked for about 4 weeks but now its the same thing - i gues there is sth like a loose contact.
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im facing the same problem: yes, it sux. how in the hell HTC had that stupid idea to put a power off button contacting with a cover, and above that, it's a tiny little switch, so prone to become damaged!! GRRRR
Hi mates yesterday i bought a used herm...with excellent condition. but when i opened any dialog. the window closed automatically. and the screen light remains always on. and touch is creating problems.
and after some time the touch screen totally stop working. i dont know what happened. al the buttons are working fine. i upgraded my t-mobile herm to its original t-mobile wm6 rom. and again the touch screen is not working. and the screen light always stay on..
so is this hardware or software problem.?
guide me if you have any clue about this..
according to my thinking.. i think some button is pressed continuesly.. but everything is working fine.. only the touch is not working.
broken digitizer for the touch screen, buy a replacement lcd/digitizer together and replace yourself, about $100Aud. Use Mike Channons site to download the service manual. Use the search function and type in "htc service manual hermes".
As for the light, you will have to use your buttons to navigate to settings>system>backlight>battery power and external power. you can select how long the backlight remains on for.
Cheers...
Hi mate thanks for your reply.. Actually the situation is that. the screen is working perfectly. all buttons are also working perfectly. but suddenly the touch feature stopped working.
that time i was just opening some menus and they closed automatically. it looks like that there is some button pressed. and the screen light never stops. it continuously remains on. all buttons are working perfectly and everything. on the touch feature is not working.
i upgraded my device with genuine shipped t-mobile wm6 rom and again it stopped at the starting screen where i have to click the screen and the device brings the window for stylus adjustment.
so i wanna ask that is this also possible that some touch drivers are corrupted or something like this.? or is this a hardware failure.?
Kind Regards
I had same problem, it was hardware. Thats why I said to change the lcd. It is theoretically possible to replace JUST the digitizer, BUT, it is a MAJOR hassle.
As for getting past the alignment stage, look up Remote Screen Alignment. Its a cab file that stores the alignment settings on your pc. You WILL have to have a friend that has the same phone so you can get their settings as you need to copy them to your pc first. You can then copy the settings to your phone so you can use it until you replace that pesky lcd...
Cheers.....
I had a similar problem with my hermes. After a lot of investigating, I found out that this is a heat related issue with the hermes. The unit will heat up an some connection somwhere gets messed up and continually registers ghost taps on the upper right corner of the screen, which causes the continual opening and closing of programs/task manager. This overloads the phone which then causes the screen to eventually become unresponsive due to excessive computing.
With my phone, it must be heat related because it will only occur during or after heavy use or overcharging. Other people have had this exact problem with the conclusion being overheating. The worse part is, there is apparently no way to fix this, replacing the screen doesn't change anything. setting your screen alignment very far left will fix the problem but then everything you tap needs to be compensated for.
Good luck, hate to be the harbinger of bad news, but it's better to know whats wrong and that you can't fix it then not know whats wrong and keep trying to fix it.
same problem here... only my hermes is overheating already after 5 minutes use...
in the morning it works and when i put it in front of the airconditioning the touchscreen also works...
somebody who has an idea where to look for a solution??
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same problem here... only my hermes is overheating already after 5 minutes use...
in the morning it works and when i put it in front of the airconditioning the touchscreen also works...
somebody who has an idea where to look for a solution??
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Some of the suggestions in the white screen thread/s might help. The problem is that those who have the heat related problem will find it very difficult to trace the actual fault. The heat may be causing miniscule expansions on the boards / components and connectors. The tiniest of cracks or poor connections can therefore break with the expansion.
Another theory is that rather than heat it might be a capacitor that is breaking down either over time or again through heating. Unless you are a skilled electronic engineer that is virtually impossible to check, particularly since schematics are not available.
You might just be lucky if you dismantled and re-assembled - it might just re-set a connector or adjust a board so it does not get affected in future. That would be very much a matter of luck and of course potentially the situation might be made worse!
Mike
Hi mates. I am back with some issue.. i moved my device to a repair center and he said that its a software issue. and he fixed my device without changing any rom.. i dont know how..
but again when i open some window like programs. the right scrollbar make a problem... when i move scrollbar it automatically press the top close button..i aligned my screen 3 times but same problem with right side scroll bar.
and after playing with it. the touch totally stopped.
now the thing is.all the buttons are working fine and everything is working fine. even sms and calls. but when i check sms and press my scroller button. it displays the right click menu instead of opening the sms. and the screen light is continuesly on. as something is pressed. so. i think this thing wil help. i am now trying this method to check my pc.
http://inuchanbt.blog54.fc2.com/blog-entry-99.html
check this out as well.
i will send you details soon.
might just have something lodged between the case and screen.. also to get rid of the screen alignment, cable it up and delete welcome from the startup programs and then reset it.. should get you past it so at least you can use it until you repair your screen
Greetings All,
this is my first windows mobile device ever (although i'm a .Net Developer)
i noticed one strange thing in my X1, whenever i shake the mobile i hear a sound like there is something inside the device (upper side) moving freely!
does anyone else have the same thing? or should i return the device for replacement?
Also mine!
And also other three device that I check.
So I think it's normal.
Herard that as well...but it was reportet only if you hold your X1 vlosely to your ear...
What you hear might be the vibrator.
All the X1's have it, I was also worried when I received mine and made a thread. Haven't found/spoke to one person who hasn't got it yet. One person rang them up and asked if it was supposed to be like that and was told it is, but still no idea why.
As previously said it could be the vibrator.
Well, ok then! but i wonder where it's comming from.
i will check it out when i open the device. but i don't want to void my warranty so soon
I think it's the optical joystick. Hold the phone upside down and listen.
The vibrator is placed in the opposite corner.
Hi.
I confirm, on mine, the sound comes from the optical joystick.
mine has it too, but it's not the optical joystick.
maybe an accelerometer?
no accelerometer. everyone has it i think. no need to worry.
nope, not the optical joystick.
im not worried about it any more.
I guess no one should be. the good thing is that time will reveal the truth about this.
if I came to know anything about this I will immediately post it here.
looooooooool
your "scary" sounds is from volume keys and camera button Take in hand blocking them and you can't ear anything (at least, on my device )
no camera or volume keys. It is from inside.
Anyway, it sounds like an orientation sensor, not necessarily an accelerometer, but who knows?
HTC did it, so it might be there waiting to be activated from drivers )))
Maybe SE has an Xmas surprise for us )))
I find it slightly irritating, as when I have the phone in a car holder it vibrates and makes an annoying rattling sound. I daren't open the phone up to find it, so I guess I'll just have to be irritated...
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no camera or volume keys. It is from inside.
Anyway, it sounds like an orientation sensor, not necessarily an accelerometer, but who knows?
HTC did it, so it might be there waiting to be activated from drivers )))
Maybe SE has an Xmas surprise for us )))
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yeah, that's what I think it is.
all gadgets I have that do a similar sound, have a g-sensor inside...
let's hope the update comes soon, as we are with a really "beta" firmware currently :_>
No boy.
It's a simple noise. If you press the upper and bottom part (display and keyb) you can hear no sound.
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No boy.
It's a simple noise. If you press the upper and bottom part (display and keyb) you can hear no sound.
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i tried everything, but the sound didn't go away, until i saw your post!
yes, it's not there anymore!!!! but when you stop pressing, it comes back!
Yes, mine is exactly the same Got to be from the slider mechanism. Anyone got some pictures of it?
No need to worry....the first day i when i recived my x1 i also shaked it the whole day. But then I read in a german forum that this is the gearwheel of the slider...everyone in that forum also said that he had that ticking noise.
BUT
I have another problem with the slider.When I use the touchscreen (especially in the right upper corner) the screen drawback a bit and its like pushing a button because when i release the pressure it makes a little tick. i think this has to do with the mounting of the slider.
Greetings
Dunnam
was at the service centre .. for other issues too.. they told me the rattle function is just the loose keys.. i got owned ! lol
My screen ocasionally shakes and turns half white and half with black stripes on a white background, it recoveres after i put it in standby.
I am pretty sure it is a hardware problem because if i press the phone (i press the top part against the qwerty keyboard part) the shaking goes off but the screen still turns white. I have sean a video on youtube on how to fix this but i don;t know how true it is and i don;t belive that is the solution. back home i have a spare motherboard... but home is farrrr away so i am looking for another solution.
I changed the rom thinking that was causing it but it was not. i am thinking about overclocking the cpu , maybe that will help ( you can see that i am desperate )
I hope you can come up with a solution.
thank you for taking your time to read my post.
since i did the trick presented on youtube i don;t have that screen shaking problem.. this is 1st day , i will come back after a week and tell you if it really works