I think all of you have seen the specs of the HTC DIAMOND
Who is going to get the HTC DIAMOND? I'm not going to waist my time waiting for members who have the courage to keep trying making the wifi and gps working. I have to felicitate their efforts but think i'm about to sell my dual to get HTC DIAMOND or HTC TITANIUM(Diamond with 20 keys...not a lot info for the moment)
ps: please replace "by" by "buy" in the poll options
i'd go for a TITANIUM whenever i feel like it
but i do like my sirf iii solar bluetooth gps device and dont miss wifi as i have unlimited web bolt on, BUT, speedy graphics will probably push me over to the diamond side !
I buy via work a HTC Daimond, if its released. We use HTC Units ... most are HTC VOX and Niki.
i'll be keeping my touch dual for sure.
i agree that the diamond is awesome in terms of functionality but why on earth release a pocket pc phone with no SD card ????
there is no way I'm buying this
the only thing that's keeping me from being completely sure that i will replace my touch dual with the diamond is the lack of a 16key hardware keyboard which i have right now.
although if it's true what they say about the HTC Titanium which is supposedly the Diamond with a HW keyboard then that's it, done deal for me.
I hear that HTC is going to provide the drivers for the Kaiser, if that's the case, the drivers for our Touch Duals will soon follow. SO no reason to rush getting the Diamond yet for me. I'll give it a few more months.
I do have a question .... Why are they putting such low mAh batteries in highend devices now-a-days?
The Diamond has 900mah or something like that... It's 3.5g with the highest HSPDA available right now, right? So ... that's like 1 hour on 3g? lol. It's processor is really fast, and that'll eat up the battery. It's graphics are really good, too (from the videos i've seen)... So.... Sedio Ext. batteries anyone?
what i find odd about new htc products in general is that they always have something missing.
for diamond that would be - sd storage + quad band + keyboard
really very frustrating.
I agree with boboduck. If they release a diamond with a keyboard and sd-storage I'll consider buying one. Until then I'll keep my Niki.
The diamond is aimed at a different market than all other HTC phones released to date, its more of a phone to pose with than get out of your pocket at a works meeting. 4GB is plenty of storage for most users and the lack of a keyboard isn't a problem. I don't see people with the iPhone or LG Prada refusing to buy them until they come with a keyboard.
I am buying one because they are aesthetically and technically brilliant, I'm keeping my dual primarily as my day to day phone and my diamond is going to be my going out phone that my friends and other people see me with.
By the way I've pre-ordered mine off Play.com for £429 with free delivery, cheapest Ive seen so far and they are due in stock on the 19th of this month!
boboduck said:
what i find odd about new htc products in general is that they always have something missing.
for diamond that would be - sd storage + quad band + keyboard
really very frustrating.
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It's a marketing strategy. You do not put every feature in one device, because if you do, you have no reason to sell other devices.
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It's a marketing strategy. You do not put every feature in one device, because if you do, you have no reason to sell other devices.
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As done by most other manufacturers too, Nokia used to never release a complete phone, although you could argue that the N95 8Gb has changed that. Sony Ericsson also release their phones in either the Cybershot camp or the Walkman Camp, but not both.
I do hope someone can cook the touchflo 3D for niki
We will have to wait for these anticipated 3d drivers to come about before manilla is usable on the niki i reckon, the diamond looks to stutter a bit with it and that has got the 3d drivers running!
I'm not holding out much hope really for it running well and i reckon it could be a memory hogging monster, HTC haven't put 192 meg of ram on the diamond for no reason....
i totally agree about the marketing strategy. this is the reason why dual has no wi-fi.
Because if it did, then nobody would buy the elf or vogue.
if htc do however release an all-in-one phone, i think it'll hurt our pockets
i just hope someone can try to put the touch flo 3D in niki
I just pre-ordered from play.com
I havent had it agreed by my wife yet.... eek!
Will keep touch dual. I'am student and have no money for the diamond!
So far I can't find a soft keyboard that is comparable to the hardware keypad for Chinese input. so better stay with Nike.
I voted for replacing my nike with a diamond, but the absence of sd breaks it for me.
A PDA without external storage is ridiculous.
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Hi everyone,
I've had Orange M3100 (Hermes) phone for about a year now and loved it to bits (helped by the fact this site is a god send for customising!). However - my contract is coming to an end and I'm considering upgrading. It seems the only upgrade route I can really see is to a Kaiser. Thats not so much as an upgrade as just the same phone with a few new features. I've already upgraded my M3100 to WM6, I'm not that bothered in GPS that the Kaiser has, and the spec of the Kaiser is almost indentical to the Hermes.
So my question is - is there anything else in the pipeline from HTC that would be worth waiting for. I'd rather wait 3 or 4 months for a newer phone to come out if there was one available.
Anyone any idea....?
good question, im in pretty much the same preticament. only thing ive found really is the newer version of the touch, with the faster cpu +wifi etc, or maybe the touch cruise, but neither have hardware keyboard. not sure if i could cope without my keyboard
You could take a look at http://www.pdadb.net/ for some info on what's coming soon.
The Cruise looks nice, kinda like a keyboardless kaiser
Yeah - my partner has just got a HTC Touch and it looks nice but I couldn't do without the keyb. That counts out the Touch Cruise as well.
Guess I'll hold onto my M3100 and see what turns up next year
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So my question is - is there anything else in the pipeline from HTC that would be worth waiting for. I'd rather wait 3 or 4 months for a newer phone to come out if there was one available.
Anyone any idea....?
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You need to work out what you want on your new device? I have considered the Polaris as the keyboard on the Kaiser looks, um, fragile...
Good Luck
Elwyn
If you could have your money back, would you take it? Or would you keep your HD?
I'm considering a purchase.
Thanks!
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Sorry for being unclear. The last Poll choice should read, "No way I would give it back. I couldn't be happier"
No doubt, the Touch HD is the best phone I've ever had! Nothing else on the market compares (in my opinion). The design, the features and the performance all kick a$$!
Thanks Derrick. I'm especially glad to hear that from someone in the States, given that I'd be buying an imported, unlocked version.
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Thanks Derrick. I'm especially glad to hear that from someone in the States, given that I'd be buying an imported, unlocked version.
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i think its ok... i'm about to post mine forsale so i guess i'd fall into the "get my money back" catagory.
After comparing to the iPhone and other Nokia phones on the market, i took a chance at the HD, i wanted it mainly because of the WinMo but in return you get so much more.
It is a beautifully built phone that most other phones aren't capable of doing (iPhone is one example)
My brother has the Samsung Omnia and the difference is phenomenal. If i was a person starting with the Omnia then i would not like WinMo, but that's until i modified every single aspect for him to have a much more beautiful aesthetically looking UI. The HD trumps the Omnia mainly due to the resolution but that's the beauty of WinMo, you can change looks whenever you want and still retain the great WinMo guts.
Get the HD, you won't be disappointed.
I am looking forward to a new one already. I love to tweak the HD, but it still not as fluent as I hope it would be. Next one will have an nvidia tegra chip, looking forward to smooth multitasking already, kinda sick and tired of the qualcomm in my HD.
I will probably ask for my money in a year or so
I'm happy with mine but there are still things I don't like:
1- WiFi reception is worse than my last ppc (eten M700)
2- Audio/Video Remote Control Profile (AVRCP) totaly screwed, instead of the old good way the stupid device opens the crappy media player from windows mobile whenever I press the keys on my stereo bluetooth device, I want to use my own player to listen to music, until now no player solved this problem 100%, waiting for a solution.
3- Can't use the TouchFlo, it's pretty but I prefer the windows mobile today screen and the second today, got all things I need without wasting ram, just want a usefull TouchFlo.
I think the Toshiba tg01 will give the Touch HD a run for its money, but as things currently stand, the HD the best wm device on the market, even despite its lack of physical keyboard.
Off course though the appeal of the tg01 will depend greatly on where you're located, as again, it only appears to work on EU 3g bands
damned carriers!!!
I've been debating changing my t8282 for a t8285 or if my money would be better spent waiting on the tg01 or getting the Pre...though the drop in resolution is sure to hurt...oh decisions, decisions...
I'd keep the phone, am very happy with it so far!
Unfortunately mine has started to have a problem with reception - like ALOT of people on here. As such I've sent it back. If I hadn't had that issue - I'd be more than happy!
@ Tref, what network are you on? If you're on ATT, your best bet is to go with the t8285, make sure to check.
I didn't even know there was a t8285 until after i bought my t8282
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@ Tref, what network are you on? If you're on ATT, your best bet is to go with the t8285, make sure to check.
I didn't even know there was a t8285 until after i bought my t8282
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I'm on AT&T. Thanks for the tip Doc. I hope my vendor has the 8285.
I'm on ATT and have had no problems with reception or EDGE network. It was the best phone out there when I bought it last year and it's still the best phone out there in my opinion. The only upcoming phone I might possibly consider waiting for is the touch pro 2 and that's only if you want a physical keyboard...if not, I'd get the 8285 Telstra Blackstone so you can have 3G on ATT.
Probably keeping my Touch HD until my contract runs out in about 6 months and then going for Omnia HD.
I like Symbian for the ease of use.
I like WM for the endless customisation.
I will never move to Apple!
Very happy with my HD 6 months on and regular reviews of the market place suggest that there is nothing out there to beat it.
I just want to say i will.
Because It costs me $1200 AUD to buy it
I want $1200 back and spend $850 to buy a new HD.
I will give it back, video playing is a big dissapointment, wifi is weak, and the sound quality is worse than all my former pda's
Taking photo's really suk on this thing.
This deffo will be my last HTC.
It is that XDA improves the standard htc's otherwise it was already be gone.
With standard ROM, it sucks. Even the new updated ROM is not what I expected.
With cooked ROM, I have to say that I love it. Smooth, fast, more user-friendly etc.
Camera could have been better, fast videodriver should have been included -- but compared to other WinMo-based units, the HD rox!
So, all-in-all :: thank you all cookers/developers out there, you saved my HD!
yeah, i have to say that too.
The audio and camera functions are disappointed me too.
I dont listen music and take pic with hd.
I do them by using my n95 8g.
That's really much better than hd.
But for me, hd is still my best 1st fav.
i love it, i think i wont change new phone for at least 2-3 years from now.
Goodday everybody,
I'm consider to buy the HTC HD2 or SE X2.
I have all ready the X1, what i most like is the keyboard.
Can you guy's tell me what the best choice is to buy!?
Greetings,
Rob
If you like a physical keyboard then why are you even considering an HD2? Stick with your X1, or buy a Touch Pro2, or consider a Samsung OmniaPRO B7610.
Thanks for the reply!
Yep you are true, but the X1 has for me to many faults in it.
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If you like a physical keyboard then why are you even considering an HD2? Stick with your X1, or buy a Touch Pro2, or consider a Samsung OmniaPRO B7610.
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Fully agree. I would go for the Samsung.
The X2 is and X1 with an "improved" camera and an upgrade to 6.5. Rest assured that all the faults you got in the X1 are gonna crop up in the X2. Look elsewhere.
I thought I was going to miss the keyboard too, but heck not at all.
Aren't you interested Motorola MILESTONE?
Thanks for all the reply's
I'm reading allot, but don't know jet, and the Motorola MILESTONE doesn't come to the Netherlands
I like the comparing with the Iphone but the X2 isn't compare with anyone.
Greets,
Rob
I moved from Xperia X1 to HTC-HD2
Keyboard on the big HD2 screen is good for me (but 1 year ago the keyboard of the X1 was one big reason to go for the X1)
I want to stick with the xda support
dingolino
Bobbe77NL said:
Goodday everybody,
I'm consider to buy the HTC HD2 or SE X2.
I have all ready the X1, what i most like is the keyboard.
Can you guy's tell me what the best choice is to buy!?
Greetings,
Rob
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I made the switch from x1 to HD2, id say go with the HD2! the x2 uses similar hardware to x1 which feels so slow and laggy compared to the HD2, sure you lose the hardware keyboard but it wasnt perfect to begin with and id usually pop the stylus out rather then slide the keyboard out because the rotation switch felt too slow
Here's a side by side: http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdacomparer&id1=1932&id2=1783
my friend
the X2 have the same SLOW CPU as the HTC DIAMOND
the X2 is a X1 with only some improvment
go for the samsung omniaPRO B7610
dont even think about the htc touch pro 2 its slow
i mean really slow cause of that CRAP processor
If you absolutely need a keyboard: Get the Samsung Omnia Pro B7610.
If you can live without a keyboard: Get the HTC HD2.
Do NOT buy the X2. It's got the same old, awfully slow processor that has been annoying us for years now. You seriously shouldn't spend money for a device based on that crappy Qualcomm MSM7xxx chipset.
If the keyboard is important to you I'd imagine you'd get annoyed with the HD2 pretty quickly, but it may be worth trying it out for the many other benefits, as if you don't like it, stick it on Ebay and you'll be able to get a Pro2 / Omnia pro / X2 / Milestone for the same money you get from the HD2 sale!
I've got a Pro2, and would highly recommend it if Keyboard is high on your priority list. As far as I know it's the best keyboard on a phone right now, and has the tilting screen too. I think I would miss it too much to get the HD2, but would not be against trying (About a year ago I tried an HD then loved the move back to my trusty Kaiser).
Also I doubt the X2 would be slow; contrary to the two posts above, the Pro2 is not slow. While clearly not as fast as an HD2, it's simply untrue to say the Pro2 is slow for general use. A snapdragon won't help an HD2 user type faster & more accurately than a Pro2 user
Hi all,
After being away for a while and currently not having a htc device i have the oportunity to buy a blackstone used. It looks nice, good preservation, no scratches on the screen, all acessories included. My question is it still worth it???
I have seen some new models of htc but they are a bit expensive here. This one goes for 250€ but i'm afraid it's a bit "old". Please if you can give me your opinion about this issue.
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becosemsaida
Yes it is worth it. It still runs all the latest OS etc. I'm glad I bought mine a few months ago. The HD is a good all round performer, and like you say the other devices around that are better/newer are a lot more expensive. When you can get most the features of the HD2 on the HD for half the price, why not buy the HD. That's the way I see it anyways. The price you stated does sound a bit much though, I'm sure you could get it much cheaper on ebay, but this could just be down to the crappy exchange rate here against the Euro.
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Yes it is worth it. It still runs all the latest OS etc. I'm glad I bought mine a few months ago. The HD is a good all round performer, and like you say the other devices around that are better/newer are a lot more expensive. When you can get most the features of the HD2 on the HD for half the price, why not buy the HD. That's the way I see it anyways. The price you stated does sound a bit much though, I'm sure you could get it much cheaper on ebay, but this could just be down to the crappy exchange rate here against the Euro.
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Thanks for your reply. Since e-bay is out of the question because many of them don't ship out of their country and i also don't have a pay-pal account it doesn't leave much choise. I have seen the site and i know it's a lot cheaper but still not an option for me. I see that according to users the HD can (almost) do the same as the HD2 and i think i will go for it. Would like to have other opinions though.......
becosemsaida
I purchased my blackstone last week after trading in my hero. The hero was a nice handset, i just didn't think android "was all that". I don't think the functionality of android is great, even 2.1. However i am running a the lastest blackstone henge rom on my device and i think its great.
The internal specification of the blackstone is the same as the hero if i'm correct and the hero is a relatively new device in comparison. Don't get eaten up by the snapdragon ghz band wagon, the touch hd still holds its own and imo is a great alrounder.
What requirements do you have for a handset when you look at buying one?
The HD is pretty good still, but a bit slow, and always was, for that sort of money I'd be inclined to buy a new acer S200 now and get the fastest Wm device available, very similar to the HD and are apparently very easy to flash other roms on to if the acer one is buggy.
Despite my disappointing experience with an F900, I would still be prepared to give them another try, I've had bad experiences with HTC and HP branded HTC's also.
Yes, HD is still front runner, specially if you find cooked ROM which has what you like.
And there's plenty of cooked ROMs, and more than half of them are still developing...
Price of 250 € is nice one, if device is really good preserved.
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Hi all,
After being away for a while and currently not having a htc device i have the oportunity to buy a blackstone used. It looks nice, good preservation, no scratches on the screen, all acessories included. My question is it still worth it???
becosemsaida
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I can't comment on the price but I just bought one (t8285) on Ebay for 450 US precisely for the reason that a) I've never had one and didn't like the bulk of the Rhodium and b) there's an EnergyRom for it
The Telstra versions are rare in the US but work on the 850 range which is ATT's 3g band. I wanted to see if I could live without a keyboard and didn't want to pony up the big bucks to get an HD2 for Telstra until I signed off on the soft keyboard.
If you can afford it and find one you like I don't think you can go wrong. It's not the latest and greatest but it is a strong contender.
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Yes, HD is still front runner, specially if you find cooked ROM which has what you like.
And there's plenty of cooked ROMs, and more than half of them are still developing...
Price of 250 € is nice one, if device is really good preserved.
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i agree with this !! this is my second hd i was planning to move over to the hd2 but i was way to big for what needed so i go one with the hd2 engery rom... as its just Ace...
The only bad part of it is Microsoft abandoning WM
Yes, I've seen some used ones in Ebay for $200 - $250. The Touch HD has everything (big screen, WiFi, GPS, FM radio, G-sensor, 5 mpix camera). It's a lot of hardware for that price.
Of course it runs Windows Mobile, which is dying right now. Sooner or later you'll have to move to Windows Phone 7 (vade retro) / iPhone / Android.
Any app you use (or God forbid, purchase) for Windows Mobile will not be transferable to any other phone in the future. Ask the developers if they will port the app and to what platforms.
You have a very good WM 6.1 ROM from KWBR, and a lot of WM 6.5 ROMs. I've used a few of them and am currently running a WM 6.5 with Manilla 2.5 and Opera 10.
becosemsaida said:
Hi all,
After being away for a while and currently not having a htc device i have the oportunity to buy a blackstone used. It looks nice, good preservation, no scratches on the screen, all acessories included. My question is it still worth it???
I have seen some new models of htc but they are a bit expensive here. This one goes for 250€ but i'm afraid it's a bit "old". Please if you can give me your opinion about this issue.
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becosemsaida
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Why dont get the mini HD?? it's about that price too?? got similar specs, in fact improved, and I think capacitive screen too?
does it worth it ?
you guys sujest me to buy this phone or get iphone?!
i really dont know to pay alot.
looking some good phone in max 250 $
so this phone is good ? the diamons 2 = sensitivty of iphone ?
what should i buy?
any 1 ? 40 views no one replay.
the diamond 2 is good phone ? right now i have the kaiser
but i wonder which is better
wm with diamond 2 or some magic or hero with android
I would get a 1gb android phone before I would but the TD2, but it is still a great phone, especially compared to the Kaiser.
TD2 is a good phone, but has issues with the earpiece (appears that it breaks easily) and in general, HTC touchscreens dont seem to be of a very good quality (-> Newton rings).
I think I would buy a Samsung Wave S8500 (because of the amoled display), if not, definitely an adroid device.
Go for the iphone!!! all of the reasons that i didnt buy one have been changed/fixed by apple and im ready to switch. Ill sell you my perfectly good but slightly used TD2 for 100.00. if you dont want the iphone, but ill tell you now, if you want to stay with the at$t rom it sucks, and as soon as you start flashing other roms, you might as well resign yourself to the fact that your gonna be dealing with lock ups, and constant reboots every day, if you use it alot. ITS NOT THE FAULT OF THE FABULOUS CHEFS THAT WE HAVE HERE, its the slow processor and the crappy hardware. So choose wisely, if you only want to spend 180 on 1+ year old technology (and thats ancient by todays standards) dont expect much. I was sorry that i spent the money to upgrade my Kaiser to the TD2, other than size, there wasnt much upgrade about it.
Hope that helps
Alan
I had a Kaiser and now have a TD2. Like the others have said. Its a good phone. (if you turn off the HTC UI) the battery lasts a little longer and the phone is more responsive.
Im about to upgrade will be probably getting a HTC Desire or HTC Desire HD
I have a TD2, picked it up new for about $150. Very good for the money, loaded Energy WM6.5 ROM with sense2.1 & it runs perfect & is quite fast in most tasks.
With the button mapping driver and a few other good tweeks it is a really easy device to use.
If you are experienced with tweaking HTC/WM devices then this can be a very capable device & a bargain if you hunt around for a clearance deal.
Most other options will be a lot more expensive but a TD2 is not a bad buy for the right money
hey guys thanks all for the answer well the iphone is more expancive
for 100-200 $ i think diamond 2 will be good replace to my kaiser even if its windows mobile
and i am pracitce in upgrade roms all the time
kaiser need good room to fucntion .
i love my phone but he have some bugs and work slowly i think the diamond 2 will be good replace
even tho i dont need the keyboard of kaiser. never used it ;P
its great phone but heavy and not nice to go with him on the streets
i wonder which phone is better. iphone diaond 2 htc hero and which has the best sensitiviy
my sister has a milestone and trust me the milestone is fantastic with the androaid program.
but i love htc so much cant get out from it
dont know about the hero, but my new iphone 4 is way more responsive, and speedy than my TD2. Good luck with your new phone!
VonH
thanks lool but the iphone 4 is much more expensive than every other htc
btw if you tell me that i can buy diamond 2 in 100$ i buy it now