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Best way of upgrading/swapping XDA for XDAII??

Hi people,
I want to swop my current xda for an xda mk2 and was just wondering if anyone knew a good way of doing this - I Emailed o2 coustomer support and they said that they weren't operating a trade in at the moment but to check back later. However, i'm impatient ;-). Is there anyone whos traded an xda in with a high street shop or will my best bet to be sell it on ebay? On a sort of related point, has anyone found the cheapest site to buy a new xda2 (with contract, want around a £20-£25 a month one)? The best i've found seems to be;
http://www.e2save.com/e2001/php/matrix/disphandset.php?network=O2&handset=XDA2
on O2 Leisure Time Plus + 100 SMS.
For reference for trade in etc, my XDA is the 64mb version with the latest official o2 ROM, unlocked thanks to the unlock utility from this very site, Good condition (natural wear and tear, marks around the infra red port but still works fine), still got box+manuals+cd+cradle+charger+leather case but not the headset (broke). Comes sim free (still got 1 onth left on 12month min. contract, but willing just to pay that).
Thanks in advance for any help,
Mark

You would be better to sell it, but make it quick as Ebay is getting flooded with them. Or you could offer it for sale here on the forum, how much you hoping to get for it?

i sold mine 2 weeks ago, as soon as i heard the news that it was available from 1 november in my neighbour country germany, and got one 1 week ago. sold for 250 € and bought one for € 650

Well with the keyboard i was hoping to get around £200 or so. Need that much to make it worthwile to upgrade or I may as well stick with the XDA1.

Decided to put it on Ebay now rather than risk leaving it and the site becoming flooded - http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2766011342 if anyones interested

I just sold my xda privately, I got £160 with all the origanal stuff and it looked quiet well looked after, when it's unlocked the "pay as you go" people cant resist the prospect of an unusual phone away from the usual boring nokias, and since my brand new xdaII was only 150 on a £45 p/m contract I`ve got one of the most cutting edge mobiles on the planet, and made a tenner

Expansys.com where you can get all the accessories

Hi,
Just want to share some info for those who did not know yet. www.expansys.com is a good place for you to get any accessories for Kaiser or any other Pocket PC.

Excellent news! Hadn't heard of them before! Will check them out straight away!

Weird that you guys never heard of them before.. they are well known of selling overpriced stuff I remember there is this audio adapter which is a 3" long adapter which they sell for US$15 (or something like that).

hanmin said:
Weird that you guys never heard of them before.. they are well known of selling overpriced stuff I remember there is this audio adapter which is a 3" long adapter which they sell for US$15 (or something like that).
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Really? Can you please share any other site that can offer better deal, better price? Please share

yep, _expensys_ would be the right name.
they sell the kaiser for 749.- bucks (€) lol.
bye
tom

iazmin said:
Really? Can you please share any other site that can offer better deal, better price? Please share
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Well, for sure if you're in UK, eBay would be a better choice.. but since you are in the capital city of Malaysia (i.e. much nearer to China), I would presume you can get stuff off the local shops pretty easily (i.e. many cheap China imports).
Anyway, this www.dealextreme.com is the cheapest I know. Waaaay to cheap to be true, sometimes.. that I thought it may be a scam. But things there are sometimes too cheap to be scammish. I haven't tried it, but it looks pretty trustworthy. You may have to dig your way around to find stuff. I guess *expensysve* has a reason for their pricey stuff for nicely organized stuff.

Well, for the Malaysian, expansys is still the cheapest to buy the Kaiser but NOT IT ACCESSORIES.
Here in Malaysia, the telco operators do not sell the phone through contract. Here in Malaysia we buy phone separately and then register with any telco that can over the best package for us. Hence the price of the phone especially the high end model such like Kaiser/TyTN II.
So, anyone has any ideas where I can get the accessories at a cheaper price?

I have made several orders from www.dealextreme.com in the last few months, they are a pretty good site to do business with. Some of their stuff you get exactly what you pay for, cheap products. Most everything I have ordered from them has been great though

x7501 box size

Hi peeps!
Can somebody please post here what the exact dimension and weight of x7501 box? I am planning to have it shipped through Fedex to here in the Philippines. I also bought a Plantronics Pulsar 260 so if somebody knows it's exact dimension/weight too, I would really very much appreciate it.
Thanks in advance.
-Jet

I can't remember but less than 30CM cubed

thanks for the info ice_coffee

X7501 box size
208x147x147mm @ 1.520 KG
Happy new Year
All the Best.

Thank you very much SuperDDD!
Ciao!

Jetherson,
I'm planning to also bring in an HTC Advantage (price of one here is isanely high Php 65K)and the seller uses FedEx for shipping. Did some calls and found out that you have to get a permit from NTC to import or a certificate to import which cost around Php 240.00 before you can have any Mobile Phone or PPC sent to the country or else FedEx will not release the Phone to you. You also have to pay a certain brokerage fee and 12% VAT which FedEx will first pay customs on your behalf. PPC or Mobile Phones do not require payment of Import Taxes or Duties except for the 12% VAT.

yes yetdy, i paid like $150 last january for my dell latitude d820 laptop through fedex.
i think i will just have to ask a friend who's coming home after a month.
sigh.

hello, are 7500 and 7501 different?how about the drive issues?is it already fix?

The only thing different now is the secondary camera. OS version is now the same but I don't know if they have the same bundled software. Regarding the MD issue, there are some people who do experience problems with it but then again, I do not think it is the majority of those who own the Athena. Just like any products, there are factory defects however stringent the QC process is. However, based on some posts/threads the MD is a power hog that is why they are looking for mini sdhc's that can sort of replace the dependence on the MD. Just like any memory device, an off sync soft reset may erase or corrupt your data.
I'm about to buy one (X7500 not the x7501 because of price and secondary camera). Unfortunately it's not available in the Philippines. Getting mine from Dynamism because of the warranty and upgrade the site provides. Did some research just to be sure. Check this out: http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdacomparer&id1=752&id2=687
Personally, I do not mind the power consumption because my atom is always plugged on to my laptop whenever I'm in the office and to the AC power supply whenever I'm asleep. Doing the same to my new HTC Advantage wouldn't be a problem. The only problem that I have with regards to the battery is whenever I travel. But that's when I need to buy a replacement batter right? Anyway, I hope this helps.

yetdy,
from that url, it says that the cpu's are the same. i've read somewhere that 7500 and 7501 cpu's are different. i'll post the reference here when i find it. also, 7500 is a lot more expensive than the 7501.
i'm going to use DHL instead of Fedex for shipping.
-jet

If you're from Quezon City and don't mind using priority mail, you can ask that your HTC advantage be shipped through priority mail instead. I know the customs people in the post office here(I'm what they term as their frequent customer.). They are nice and would let single items pass even if they are supposed to tax USD$50 above items. You don't even need to give them gifts or you know what. As long as the package is for personal use, they will go easy on you.
BTW, I got my HTC Advantage for USD 600 + 58 for Freight. Not as expensive as the X7501. Brand new from a very reputable online store. It also has a 1 year warranty to boot. Anyway, that's the reason I finally bought one. Prices here are ridiculously high. Anyway, I got the specs for everyone to see...
Specs of the x7501
http://www.america.htc.com/products/advantage7501/features-specs.html
Specs of the x7500 is attached.

wow that deal looks very good.
anyway, i'm in subic area and there a big chance that i might still be able to ask a friend of mine to have it handcarried to the philippines, that way i wont have to pay for anything
my x7501 was bought for $850
thanks for the suggestion though, and i'll let you guy know how the 'shipping' goes.
ciao!

My x7500 will arrive via FedEx by the 10th of the month as per tracking number. Got to pay 4,000+ though for the taxes. (Bummer!) At least its still a lot cheaper than buying it here. Can't wait until it arrives!

Selling a Hermes - Advise only (not a pitch)

Hi guys,
Just wondering if I can get some advise.
I just bought a Tytn II and am now going to sell my T-Mobile Vario II. I was wondering what sort of price I should be looking for one now-a-days.
It's got the original box, but no warranty. I can put my hands-free kit in from my Tytn II as I really don't need it.
I've got the original charger and a USB sync/charge cable are easy to add.
I can also throw in my Tytn II's case. I don't need that either.
It's in near pristine condition. I got it in about April after sending my first one back to T-Mobile for repair. They replaced it instead. However, on the corner is a small, but very obvious scuff which I plan on showing when selling it.
Just wondering if anyone can advise me on what sort of price you would expect to pay for this phone if you was buying it so I can get a rough idea of what to expect.
I'll be putting the Official T-Mobile Windows Mobile 6 on the device and it is unlocked.

i reckon £130, but saying that the official wm6 and unlocked aswell wouldcrank it up if u put it on ebay. dont seel for less than 130 though.

Thanks for your reply.
That kind of price is actually quite a bit above what I was thinking. I was looking at more about £70. Especially considering the scuff on the corner is quite visible with the device being grey and red.
It's not damage which will effect the device in any way shape or form, but it is clearly visible. That's it's only downside.

I'd look at the prices on ebay... On Aussie ebay most Hermes sell for around $200Aud. This is my observation for about 2 months... Watch how they sell on ebay for a week then decide how to go about this.
Most people tend to bid in the last few hours and I've seen a Jasjam go from $55 to almost $300Aud in the course of 20 mins.
I don't know how it is on UK ebay but my advice is watch and learn.
Cheers...

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I'd look at the prices on ebay... On Aussie ebay most Hermes sell for around $200Aud. This is my observation for about 2 months... Watch how they sell on ebay for a week then decide how to go about this.
Most people tend to bid in the last few hours and I've seen a Jasjam go from $55 to almost $300Aud in the course of 20 mins.
I don't know how it is on UK ebay but my advice is watch and learn.
Cheers...
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Good advice.
I'd say as well (having sold a couple of phones on ebay) decent descriptions and pictures add more than you would expect to the price, so spend a bit of time writing some decent text and describing the functions in detail.
May as well watch http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200242138578 - it's a similarly replaced Vario II so should give you an idea of what it will go for, once it completes.
Good luck!
Geoff

i only paid a £100 for mine 12 months ago and that was virtually new, a midwife had got it on contract and then found it far too complicated to use. £130+ to me is way off the mark. I have tried to buy a few on ebay and they generally sell from £70-£100 depending on the condition , accessories included etc.
PM me with a price as a friend wants one , if you dont want to use ebay. Or if you do pm me the link
EDIT:http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200242138578 Someone is taking the piss on the bidding with that one its at a £155 with two days to go, i think someone is pulling his leg.
average price for one if these is about a £100
http://www.gumtree.com/london/69/26751569.html <---£100
http://www.gumtree.com/london/69/26751569.html <---£110
http://www.gumtree.com/london/25/25809225.html <---£100
http://www.gumtree.com/london/23/26155423.html <---£75

Thanks for the suggestions,
The item linked by Marsbar is going for a really high price.
To be honest, I think I'll put it on there for £70 with full pictures of it up and working then let it run for 7 days.
I just sold a Samsung Tocco on there (free upgrade from Orange) for £200 on a buy it now. That was done within hours. I think the Tytn could fetch quite a bit more than I anticipated.

About buying Universal

Hello,
Im thinking about buying Universal, but i have some questions about it.
1.Where to buy it, i would like to get it in good shape/now, not some old cheese.
2.Has it any defects or easy brokening parts.? Warranty after buying via. internet is a pain.
3. I read somewere that there are some fake models avabile?
Is it real talk or some WomensInSaunaToldMe story?

Your best bet would either be eBay or the Marketplace. I think the latter is a better choice because you'll probably find it much cheaper with details.

Just looked, at the ebay.
I could get for 350$ from there.
Now i need some info abot the fake thing.
And one question more:
Is this mobile still sustainable (this may be wrong word ) or is there a hope for support in XDA nexr 2-3 years?
But yeah, Wallaby is much older

Do not hessitate on buying an Universal!
Is one of the best devices ever!!
Thanks to the Chefs and Devs here you´ll have Universal for a long time!
Have a look here to see another buy options
http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php?searchid=25385196

jaank said:
Just looked, at the ebay.
I could get for 350$ from there.
Now i need some info abot the fake thing.
And one question more:
Is this mobile still sustainable (this may be wrong word ) or is there a hope for support in XDA nexr 2-3 years?
But yeah, Wallaby is much older
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Haven't heard of this "fake" business you speak of but i'm pretty sure eBay is safe. I'm also sure you can get one for much cheaper than that.

kareem9nba said:
I'm also sure you can get one for much cheaper than that.
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Cheaper than the Ebay?
Where?I think 350usd for that kinda High-End device is pretty cheap.
All im worried about is, that maybe it doesn't fit into my pants pockets, because im only 12 and my pocket's arent very big.
edit: Orb3000 could you please fix the link. I like'd to read it.

Enter here and do a search with the word "Universal"
You´ll see many options:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=476

price and size
jaank said:
Cheaper than the Ebay?
Where?I think 350usd for that kinda High-End device is pretty cheap.
All im worried about is, that maybe it doesn't fit into my pants pockets, because im only 12 and my pocket's arent very big.
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Hi jaank.
On Ebay in the UK, Universals are selling for £100-£130. that is 1840-2390 Krooni (you live in Estonia, right?) You could probably get a better deal on this site in Marketplace.
If you are worried about the size for your pocket. A Uni is 130mm X 78mm X 23mm. Maximum. make up a cardboard one and try it out. that was what I did before I bought my Athena.
A Uni is pretty tough but so is school.(at least mine was) you need to be careful. You already have a Wizard so you know that. Best of luck. let us know how you get on.

Oh, cool answer
But, has Universal some weak spots?
Like the screen turning system or so?Im thinking about some other mobile, at the weekend.
Im in Middle schoool , so im pretty peaceful and im pretty peaceful at all, but im sportly active and so having second phone is pretty good idea I think.
And the point for buying Uni IS school.
Im a boy, so i sit at the back and our school has wifi.
And as you all know (I hope) is school pretty booring.
Thank you for the help, and sorry for my English.I started learning English in third grade and Im going to Six't grade so I'm not really experienced about english.
Thank you, and i love PayPal.
EDIT: Where did you see NEW uni for 2000eek. I talked to my parrents and it's have to be new
EDIT2:About future Is there some roms wiht the latest Manila as in the Touch Pro/Hd

SorryForDouble
Looking for the Cheapest NEW uni.
My old mobile battery is diening so needed fast.

Uni's can be bought cheap at the German eBay. Current prices are at about 100 Euro, I saw auctions finishing at 90 Euro. This is madness, for such a great device.
You need to search for "MDA PRO", as this is the name given by the German phone operator.
I actually own two of them, so that is a good sign on how much I like this phone!
Drawbacks: whilst driving, my phone holder does not allow the Universal to be placed such that the keyboard is accessible. This means, I can't type while driving (one shouldn't do that anyway). Also, Internet Explorer will render quite small fonts.
When I am driving, I do prefer the form factor of my VDA GPS (like a Motorola Q9).
Other than that, this phone is simply great.
No known issues.
You should consider:
- new battery
- screen protector
- proper car holder
Cheers,
vma

i got mine about a month ago. i got it off ebay germany, i paid 88eur for the universal g3, plus a 3200mah battery, a tomtom mkii sirf3 gps receiver and a docking station.
that was about the best 90eur i ever spent, although i didn't get a stylus, a case or a handsfree, which i thought, was standard accessories, the gps alone is priced at 75eur in germany

VMA:
- new battery- IDK, I'm scared about weight.
- screen protector- Shure
- proper car holder- Dont have a car so not needed.
If you buying MDA Pro than you can still flash it?
EDIT: Is MDA pro software in germany?

Hi,
With new battery I meant the fact that most MDA PRO's sold nowadays at eBay are over two years old, so you should not expect to much from the shipped battery. You certainly will need to purchase a new one soon to get a full day of heavy usage out of your device.
I agree that the extra capacity batteries increase the size and weight of the Universal beyond reasonable lilmits (for me at least), so I would stick with the normal sized batteries.
Basically I wanted to alert you that you should not spend *ALL* your money on the Universal - save some for an extra battery...
The German MDA PRO will in most cases come with a German falvour of WM5 and with a SIM lock.
You can, however, unlock the SIM by following the procedure of the Unlocker (search forum) and you can certainly flash a different ROM. I personally like Tomal's modified WM6.1 ROM's a lot.
The only remaining issues you will have with the German version of the Universal:
- MDA / T-Mobile logo on the inside, T-Mobile logo on the outside
- German keyboard: essentially you will have the "Y" and "Z" keys swapped - and no, you can't physically exchange the keys, because they have different size
I can live perfectly well with both issues and they don't affect the usability or the value of the device at all.
Cheers,
vma

Now it's about Ebay safety.
How to chose seller?
http://cgi.ebay.com/Brand-New-O2-XD...trkparms=65:12|66:2|39:1|72:1205|293:1|294:50
What do you think about that?

Check on marketplace first!
I saw yesterday a great Uni selling from a trustable member

There is always a risk involved in any internet related purchase...
At eBay you should look for:
- sellers with more than a minimu of 5 feedbacks
- sellers with 100% rating - in case of 99.x% rating, check what was the cause of the negative feedback (sometime's it is not the sellers fault)
- check what other products the seller has been selling
- pictures of the real device, not just standard marketing images
- ask the seller a question and see how long it takes him to respond - avoid sellers who dont respond
- avoid sellers accepting Western Union or similar payment forms
- don't relay totally on PayPAL - it is not that secure
- check shipping costs
- check taxes - specially in case of imports from other economic areas
If nothing is strange so far, nothing fishy, then you can take the risk.
Regarding the Marketplace here at XDA-DEVELOPERS: I have never purchased anything, but would do so from respected members. Check how long they are registered and how many postings they have. No crook would be wasting time with hundreds of posts over years just to sell you a broken Universal...
However, in case things go wrong and if you bought something from someone on the other side of the world, there is nothing much you can do.
That is the price you pay, for getting the device with a discount of aproximatly 50%.
Cheers,
vma

OK - sellers with more than a minimu of 5 feedbacks
OK - sellers with 100% rating - in case of 99.x% rating, check what was the cause of the negative feedback (sometime's it is not the sellers fault)
OK - check what other products the seller has been selling
OK - pictures of the real device, not just standard marketing images
OK - ask the seller a question and see how long it takes him to respond - avoid sellers who dont respond
OK - avoid sellers accepting Western Union or similar payment forms
OK - don't relay totally on PayPAL - it is not that secure
OK - check shipping costs
OK - check taxes - specially in case of imports from other economic areas
So look's pretty good.
I was just asking your opinion .What do you think about him.
Gonna order soon.