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I know that this has been discussed here: http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=13771&highlight=minimize
but the instructions on how to specifically use an up -->down motion (in order to minimize a currently open program) are either beyond me, not clear enough, or not there at all. Has anyone been able to get this function to work, and if so can you post instructions. Also, as mentioned in the above thread can we get a side-to-side motion the switch between open programs?
I read the thread. Like you said, instructions were missing
I have a modded cube and lots of hacks on my Touch.
So, one option that works for me at the moment - is a two step process.
1) press red button to return to Home screen.
2) press task list drop down in top right corner and choose running program to switch to.
It's fast, easy, working and doesn't require any potential confilcts with TouchFlo.
Aairman23 said:
I know that this has been discussed here: http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=13771&highlight=minimize
but the instructions on how to specifically use an up -->down motion (in order to minimize a currently open program) are either beyond me, not clear enough, or not there at all. Has anyone been able to get this function to work, and if so can you post instructions. Also, as mentioned in the above thread can we get a side-to-side motion the switch between open programs?
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I think the minimize.exe app they refer to is used in conjunction with the ftouchflo application - not the standard touchflo. You can find it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=338143
On My Sprint Mogul/6800, with out-of-the-box ROM (upgraded to version 3.35.651.2 (the 2/22/2008 HTC update) at the Sprint store), I'd like to increase the touch sensitivity for easier scrolling with FTouchFlo, sliding with SCLPC++, and general finger-tapping. Particularly needed since I'm using a screen protector.
Searching this forum turned up some registry edits on the Elf/Touch (HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\TouchPanel\PressureThreshold) as described here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=360564
However, when browsing my own registry with Total Commander, I don't see the TouchPanel key (neither in HKLM\Drivers nor HKLM\Software\Drivers).
I've seen this registry setting mentioned as well:
HLKM\HARDWARE\OEM\TOUCH\CALIBRATENOTES
But I couldn't find that one either. I have HKLM\HARDWARE\DEVICEMAP\TOUCH\CalibrationData, but that seems to contain the 5 coordinates (4 corners + center) for screen calibration, no sensitivity data.
So -- any clues on how to increase the pressure sensitivity on the 6800?
I agree I need some settings too
Well i can tell you it wont be under calibration data. that has to do with the accuracy of pinpoints on the screen, like when you recalibrate after reflashing or starting up for the first time. ill check around the registry and see if i find anything of interest.
you may just need to create the key yourself with the correct name indicated.
I've tested this out by creating the following registry keys & values:
HKLM\Drivers\TouchPanel\PressureThreshold
HKLM\Software\Drivers\TouchPanel\PressureThreshold
HKLM\Hardware\DeviceMap\Touch\CalibrateNotes
I've tried values ranging from single digits and 100's, to 50,000, to 100,000. Still no change in sensitivity either way.
Any other ideas?
--> Shamelessly bumping my own thread, because I still haven't found an answer yet
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--> Shamelessly bumping my own thread, because I still haven't found an answer yet
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Sorry about your trouble. I don't have an answer for you either. My guess is there is an inherent difference in the devices. I will try and play around with it over the weekend and see if I can come up with anything.
SenseiMP said:
On My Sprint Mogul/6800, with out-of-the-box ROM (upgraded to version 3.35.651.2 (the 2/22/2008 HTC update) at the Sprint store), I'd like to increase the touch sensitivity for easier scrolling with FTouchFlo, sliding with SCLPC++, and general finger-tapping. Particularly needed since I'm using a screen protector.
Searching this forum turned up some registry edits on the Elf/Touch (HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\TouchPanel\PressureThreshold) as described here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=360564
However, when browsing my own registry with Total Commander, I don't see the TouchPanel key (neither in HKLM\Drivers nor HKLM\Software\Drivers).
I've seen this registry setting mentioned as well:
HLKM\HARDWARE\OEM\TOUCH\CALIBRATENOTES
But I couldn't find that one either. I have HKLM\HARDWARE\DEVICEMAP\TOUCH\CalibrationData, but that seems to contain the 5 coordinates (4 corners + center) for screen calibration, no sensitivity data.
So -- any clues on how to increase the pressure sensitivity on the 6800?
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I believe those registries are created when the Touch Flo Cube is installed. It is mainly for cube sensitivity. If you are simply running TouchFlo, you will not find these keys.
mromblad said:
I believe those registries are created when the Touch Flo Cube is installed. It is mainly for cube sensitivity. If you are simply running TouchFlo, you will not find these keys.
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I'm using Efrost's FTouchFlo, and Slither's SCLPC++ cube. Of course, these are clones/rewrites/whatever of the actual software on the HTC Touch, since I have the 6800/Titan/Mogul.
I got the impression that these registry entries were for general system-wide sensitivity, not just the Cube -- so I was hoping there might be something similar I could do on my device
Searching the web I found this Pdf:
Maybe it can help
I read somewhere that how you do the screen configuration affects the sensitivity. Like if you push the points hard during calibration the screen will be calibrated for hard presses (less sensitive). Light presses during calibration, light presses (more sensitive). I have always treated it this way and as far as I've been able to tell, that's how it works. I could just be nuts though =P
I now have Hermes/TyTN and are used to and want be able to navigate everything office-related quickly with the keyboard (mostly Outlook Mobile and the ”File explorer” (Word-documents)
So more specifically (but feel free to answer in general terms as well):
- Is the above easy and quick?
(Especilly concerning Outlook Mobile)
- Is it possible to customize a button shorcut to the ”File explorer”?
- I noticed that the keyboard lacks soft buttons and directional arrows - how does that work out?
- Do Word Mobile documents open quickly?
I'm thinking about buying a Kaiser/TyTN II after a litte disapointing test of Touch Pro, but would like to enjoy the fun, exciting and practical things, like Google maps, of a Touch Phone as well.
/Dan
-There are 2 soft keys you can customize
-The D-pad/Optical scroll will still be usable in landscape mode and will be rotated so that it works correctly.
-It one of the fastest phones out there so yes they'll open quickly.
Thanks!
I´m afraid it lead to some more questions :s.
Okey, now I think I can see the scroll wheel which I guess works for instead of vertical arrows, but what about sideways?
By soft keys I meant the keys above the keyboard (se attachment), which one´s did you mean?
The reason I ask if it´s slow with opening Word-documents is that Touch Pro, also one of the fastest, took 15-25 sec. to open a 50kB doc. which is ridiculous because they usually are 150-200kB.
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Thanks!
I´m afraid it lead to some more questions :s.
Okey, now I think I can see the scroll wheel which I guess works for instead of vertical arrows, but what about sideways?
By soft keys I meant the keys above the keyboard (se attachment), which one´s did you mean?
The reason I ask if it´s slow with opening Word-documents is that Touch Pro, also one of the fastest, took 15-25 sec. to open a 50kB doc. which is ridiculous because they usually are 150-200kB.
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You can set those two keys to anything you want on just about any windows mobile device so setting that to file explorer shouldn't be problem at all.
When I was talking about the optical scroller, I was talking about the Xperia. I does not have a scroll wheel. You know those little mouse pads on labtops. Well it has a mini (sorta) one of those for scrolling on the bottom of the screen or you can use it as a D-Pad.
The touch pro has touchflo3d that may slow application loading time because it causes over head. On the standard today screen the Xperia should fly with opening word docs.
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I now have Hermes/TyTN and are used to and want be able to navigate everything office-related quickly with the keyboard (mostly Outlook Mobile and the ”File explorer” (Word-documents)
So more specifically (but feel free to answer in general terms as well):
- Is the above easy and quick?
(Especilly concerning Outlook Mobile)
- Is it possible to customize a button shorcut to the ”File explorer”?
- I noticed that the keyboard lacks soft buttons and directional arrows - how does that work out?
- Do Word Mobile documents open quickly?
I'm thinking about buying a Kaiser/TyTN II after a litte disapointing test of Touch Pro, but would like to enjoy the fun, exciting and practical things, like Google maps, of a Touch Phone as well.
/Dan
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May I ask what disappointed you in the Touch Pro?
Except slow opening of word files?
Some clarifications:
- The two soft buttons.
There are two physical buttons below the display that you can use or you can just touch the buttons on the screen itself.
When the keyboard is open there are no physical buttons on the keyboard so you have to touch the screen or use the two buttons below (now on the side of) the screen.
- Directional Keys
Around the optical mouse there are 4 directional keys that work both with the keyboard open and closed. They work fine and they logically rotate with the screen orientation.
- Optical mouse
As Kloc said it's not a scroll wheel but works similar to a touch pad on a laptop.
Danne said:
So more specifically (but feel free to answer in general terms as well):
- Is the above easy and quick?
(Especilly concerning Outlook Mobile)
- Do Word Mobile documents open quickly?
/Dan
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I don't know about navigating to Outlook quickly, but 3 panels carry a shortcut to outlook - the SE Panel, the Spb Panel, and the Windows Panel... and from the latest videos i have seen, it is fast.
There is also another video on youtube where they open various office documents on the device including spreadsheets, word document, etc. and although i did not care to notice, but i am quite certain that it was not slow. i'll try to hunt down that video and post the link here.
Hi again (after sleep and work)
Ok, now I understand which soft buttons you guys mean, I was only refering to the ones that TyTN (see pic) has in landscape mode above the keyboard (very practical). I guess I´ll have to use the touch screen for those commands.
Thanks for the clarification about the directional keys I hope they are quick to work with in keyboard ”mode” as you imply.
And msalmank, if you find the link I´ll be happy to see it, if not one of you have direct experience with opening Word-documents. On Touch Pro I actually turned off the Touch Flo 3D and it didn´t become quicker (not much anyway). Slower than my 2 year old HTC TyTN.
Why I was dissapointed in Touch Pro (except slow opening of Word-documents)?
(I realize that the perspective here is narrow, but as said, I use the PDA mostly in this narrow office-way. Constantly and quickly changing calender-appointments and writing in different Word-documents. Besides that TP does have some great stuff in it!)
- The input method with auto suggestion of Words is really crappy (I don´t know it it´s the same in all WM6.1 phones(?))
- Low sound-signals for reminders and SMS
- Low battery time (but I´we seen completely different opinions on this matter so I don´t know what´s up with that)
- Unproportionaly big menus when using the keyboard in landscape mode (might be fixable?)
I just might buy the Xperia and test it and send it back if I´m not pleased. That might be the simplest solution. But buying the first couple of weeks is always risky, isn´t it.
I'm a PC, and this is my office!
I'm a PC, I'm a PC, I'm a PC (while doing a dance)
SensorScroll uses the HTC Touch Diamond/PRO Gesture Wheel to scroll up and down inside windows which allow scrolling (has a scroll bar). It can also emulate key pressing instead of scrolling.
It is in beta stage, please use carefully. All bug reports, fresh ideas and recommendations are welcome.
Instructions:
1. Install the application. It adds shortcut in Programs and in \Windows\Startup folders!
2. Right after installation you can run the application from Programs shortcut to start using it. There is no need for soft reset to have it running for the first time!
3. To use the application open a Window with a vertical scroll bar like Programs or File Explorer and try rotating the scroll sensor clockwise for scroll down and counter clockwise for scroll up. Don't forget to try the touch action too (double tap on the central button to switch on/off and touch the direction keys)
4. To fine tune the application behavior use the SensorScroll Settings application
5. Have fun!
6. To stop, run it again and you will have an option to stop it.
Notes:
Inside installation folder there is a file named no_process.txt. The file contains a list of process names which will not be affected by the application (or by SensorScroll Settings). It already has some entries like opera, teeter, etc.
The application is freeware (and will always stay free)
Known issues:
* Does not work with GScroll ! Both programs act like they have disabled each other.
Todo:
* Clear the source code and add some comments
* Open the source code if i consider it good enough to be open
Search for new ideas:
We can do something with the rest of the touch sensitive area. I'm collecting ideas. We can use single, double or triple click. Known limitation: you could track press and release coordinates, but cannot track finger movement (at least I don't know how). If you come with a good idea please share it and post a reply. Thanks in advance!
History:
* v0.7.1 (20.05.2009)
- Fixed a nasty bug resulting in SensorScroll working with all programs including those who needs to be ignored
- Temporary removed windows enumeration in SensorScroll Settings. I'll try to put some more complex code to handle poorly working API functions in the next version.
* v0.7 (17.05.2009)
- Fully changed working principles. Should be much more stable and compatible now.
- Added support for screen rotation. Read the manual about the 3 key screen rotation.
- Added support for process identify. Read the manual.
- Added handling of power notifications. Now it should consume almost no CPU when suspended.
- Added support for preventing the device to go to suspended state while using the d-pad
- Added support for vibrate feedback for "touch gestures switch", "screen rotation", "process identify"
- Fixed problem with saving/loading settings with non english versions of windows mobile
- Fixed problem with double tap working not only for the center button, but also in other areas (home, back, call, end call)
- Removed process enumeration in SensorScroll Settings. This caused more problems then it solved.
Full version history can he found here
Old version 0.6 can be found here
Thanks. Works well so far. One early issue I noticed upon installing your .cab is my device freezes for no apparent reason. I am also running GScroll, may have something to do with that. I'll try disabling it and report back.
Great app...props already http://www.fuzemobility.com/?p=1479
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Thanks. Works well so far. One early issue I noticed upon installing your .cab is my device freezes for no apparent reason. I am also running GScroll, may have something to do with that. I'll try disabling it and report back.
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Confirmed.... Does not play nice nice w/GScroll. After disabbling GScroll it works great unfortunately I need GScroll so I can have the double tap functionality to bring up SecondToday
Randomly the program will stop working (not sure if it completely shuts down or if its actually running, but not working). Instead of scrolling the page, it will start to scroll by each item. For example, in the Program menu it will go from app to app.
Works Perfectly for me.
Thanks!
The Mobile Spoon
Working perfect - thank you!
edit: after testing as already pointed out seems to turn off.
How does this compare with the cabs already out? I mean does it work in EVERY app? I mean I use RRE's Smart Touch Wheel Scroll.cab, but I'll try this one and see if there is any difference.
Kraize - this works in far more applications. It's really an expansion because you can set it to leave the defaults in place that Diamond Tweaks puts in. The only problem appears to be that it turns off at some points. Not sure what is causing the behavior.
Great App!!! is there any way you could make this scroll through touchflo? Like left 2 right? Always wanted this....lol sorry . Anyways thank you!
AT&T FUZE Touch Pro unstable
Awesome idea! Installed it on my 1 day old AT&T FUZE and crashed a few times and rebooted the phone once. Hopefully will be fixed soon. HAve the feeling AT&T touch flow 3D is causing the issue.
Nice app any way to get this to work with S2U2?
Thank you for sharing, I will give it a try
cheers
Works fine on my Touch Pro. Tnx mate for this!
the program chashes at my touch pro after a few minutes and doens´t scoll anymore so i have to exit and restart it again.
why runing additional app when this should be integrated just need to tell registry
check this - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=406206
i don't have stability problems, but the app doesn't survive the first suspend
sheitan said:
why runing additional app when this should be integrated just need to tell registry
check this - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=406206
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it's still better to import dozens of reg files after each hard reset + it works with ALL toolbar-scroll windows ^^
hello, is it possible for you to make a version wich moves LEFT <> RIGHT instead of UP <> DOWN ?
I mean to scroll tabs on manilla, to change word when typing a sms cause may big fiingers are to dummy to easily use the left right keys
PS : excuse my english, i'm french
Perfect..
It works fine on my device
Thank a lot man
Thank you for your replies! I'll check the application with GScroll. I've never used it so far. I hope it will be possible to fix the problem.
I am trying to find a way to mess with
HKLM/Software/HTC/SmartTouch/ key in registry, which is supposed to control the zoom bar.
I did some research in several threads in this forum, but all I found was some info (mainly on TD1 threads) on how to make the zoom bar (or scroll wheel in TD1) produce scrolling in apps.
However, what I am interesting in, is ZOOMING within any kind of application. Any idea on how to achieve this? The aforementioned key contains values such as ClassName (which is the app's class, something that is not easy to figure out; any tool on finding out an app's class would be appreciated), WheelCount (which probably is sensitivity), and Mode (which I have no idea what it is).
Anyone could help with this?
I could imagine a few nice things to do with the Zoombar. As I'm missing the arrow keys, it would be great to define a few gestures to use up / down / left / right keys with the zoombar.
e.g.
slide to the right -> right key
slide to the left -> left key
tap on '+' -> up key
tap on '-' -> down key
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I am trying to find a way to mess with
HKLM/Software/HTC/SmartTouch/ key in registry, which is supposed to control the zoom bar.
I did some research in several threads in this forum, but all I found was some info (mainly on TD1 threads) on how to make the zoom bar (or scroll wheel in TD1) produce scrolling in apps.
However, what I am interesting in, is ZOOMING within any kind of application. Any idea on how to achieve this? The aforementioned key contains values such as ClassName (which is the app's class, something that is not easy to figure out; any tool on finding out an app's class would be appreciated), WheelCount (which probably is sensitivity), and Mode (which I have no idea what it is).
Anyone could help with this?
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Hi jcan,
Did you manage to find ways to resolve your question? Kindly share with me please!
Try here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=512614&page=5
Thanks for the link mattan, but I had already tried the Advanced Config solution... It is true that you can add Smartouch capability in active apps from there, but the problem is that I tried some (e.g. GSFinder+), and it worked as a scroll device.
What I am trying to find is a way to make the zoom bar work universally as its name says, i.e. zoom. It would be very nice to be able to zoom in anywhere in the device, like having a magnifying glass. Unfortunately, I haven't found anything yet but I know that the solution is hidden somewhere in the Smartouch reg key... Let's hope some fellow xda member will enlighten us!
and it worked as a scroll device.
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Actually it's not, it's work like hardware Up/down key. In some case you can redefine action on it (In program settings), for example CorePlayer, or some games.
I think biotouch must be modified for this
jcan said:
Thanks for the link mattan, but I had already tried the Advanced Config solution... It is true that you can add Smartouch capability in active apps from there, but the problem is that I tried some (e.g. GSFinder+), and it worked as a scroll device.
What I am trying to find is a way to make the zoom bar work universally as its name says, i.e. zoom. It would be very nice to be able to zoom in anywhere in the device, like having a magnifying glass. Unfortunately, I haven't found anything yet but I know that the solution is hidden somewhere in the Smartouch reg key... Let's hope some fellow xda member will enlighten us!
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What you would need to do it actually write an application that zooms the screen in hardware (similar to ctrl + mouse wheel zooming in Mac OSX) and control it with the zoom bar in applications that don't work with the zoom bar at present. I haven't actually used GSFinder+ but if doesn't have some sort of zoom level available to it through a menu function or on screen button then there is no way the zoombar will magically give it (or any other non-zooming program) one.
OK, I get it then... So, if an application does not support zooming, then the zoombar can only be used as a scroll device (or up-down key)...
I guess we will have to settle with that type of use then, until a screen zoom application comes up.
jcan said:
OK, I get it then... So, if an application does not support zooming, then the zoombar can only be used as a scroll device (or up-down key)...
I guess we will have to settle with that type of use then, until a screen zoom application comes up.
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this is what u want :
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this is what u want :
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What does this cab exactly do, mate?
Read and download here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=406206