I'm switching from Verizon to Sprint and am debating between the Mogul and Touch.
Just curious if any of you were former owners of the Touch?
Why did you switch?
Now that it appears GPS mod is available for Touch, is it any more attractive?
With some of the "best practices" for managing memory resources for the Mogul, is this still an issue at all?
Any other advice would be appreciated. They both look like great phones.
Dan
I like the Moguls slide out keyboard.
If the touch had one I would have gotten one but it doesnt. Typing on that screen must be a *****.
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Why does this forum suck compared to the Elf's forum? That's a serious question.. no fooling around here
o and will stuff in that other forum work with the Vogue?
#1 because the GSM Touch has been out over a year, and now that the Vogue has come out, a lot of Cell Providers have decided to name it the Touch (ie Sprint Touch is actually HTC Vogue) which confuses a lot of people. If you go to ppcgeeks.com you will find that 95% of the people in the HTC Touch Forum are actually HTC Vogue users, but in the USA it's been called the Touch, so everybody is there. So that's why I spend most of my time over there.
#2 Most of it will not because the HTC Touch and the HTC Vogue are completely different devices. The Touch runs at around 200MHZ while the Vogue runs at 400MHZ. The Touch has something like 64MB or storage while the Vogue has 256MB. Different architecture, thus different ROMs, customizations, etc.
Thanks Musicman that was really helpful. Didn't realize there would be so much of a difference.
Nor did I. Good info to know!
My ATT Hermes broke and I have a chance to switch to any unit on any carrier in the US. I thought of the Mogul/Sprint because there is good rev A coverage where I live. I ask this because over at the Hermes threads there is allot of different roms and allot of activity going on versus here where it seems like hardly anyone posts here. Should I remain with ATT/Hermes or is the Mogul or possibly Touch a good choice?
I am really liking mine and I came from the hermes. Right now it doesnt have support for rev a evdo, but HTC is supposed to be releasing a new rom to enable it.
The titan doesn't have as much activity because there are only two version of the phone, verizon and sprint. Also, there really isnt a rom kitchen available yet (some are on the works) so thats why there isnt alot of action in that respect.
Over at ppcgeeks.com there is quite a bit more action going on about the mogul.
We are due for a sweet OS upgrade, EVDO update and phone update. This is the most customizable phone out. You can make it into anything. With a little bit of time in you can do alot with a Mogul. I use mine as a wifi hotspot, music center, tv, messenger of all sorts, phone/laptop every day. I dare an IPhone user to try and touch my functions. Almost all online vid is viewable on my Mogul and I have no problem surfing just about any site. As long as you dont anchor it down with an HTC Home mod it runs fast. Its worth every penny. I would stay far far away from any touch phone. At least with the mogul you have the best solid input with the keyboard. Its fast after you figure it out. F__k all other phones. Go Mogul or dont bother.
I've been using DCD 1.69 Kitchen on my Mogul and couldn't be more happy. I have even been working on making my own custom ROM's, so if you are worried about there not being enough ROMs out there, don't. And ture, Sprint and HTC are soon to release a new ROM that enabled GPS and Rev A.
Is the Mogul an upgrade or a downgrade from a Hermes?
My contract is up with ATT/Cingular and I am looking at switching to Alltel because their plans are cheaper (with data/tethering). I currently have a Hermes. However, I do not understand enough about the hardware specs to know if I would be getting a better (faster) processor or slower by switching to the Mogul. Can anyone point me to a side by side comparison between the Hermes and Mogul? Also, I have not yet searched all the posts, but is this "Rev A" referred to here out already? Thanks.
Better than the rest
I have looked into the other phones, and although there are benefits to each the mogul seems to be the best, most well rounded phone out there. Though there may be fewer ROMS available compared to other phones, that may be due to the customizations available through the ROMs that are out there. DCD and some of the others are really stable and have the ability to run almost everything that is out there. Buy an 8 gig card, download the sprint ROM and DCD Rom version based on your cellphone carrier, and have fun.
You may have more RAM on the touch and some others, but functionality due to keyboard and buttons are in the favor of the Tytn/Mogul/xv6800.
I'm on Alltel and I really like my 6800. Pretty much my only gripe about it is constantly checking my available memory, its pretty much always right around 16 megs or available ram.... which gets old sometimes.
but this will probably be my last HTC device I own due to the way they are dealing with all the driver issues ive been reading about. not really much in the way of customer service IMO.
Is there another phone out there with a 2.8 screen (or larger), slide out keyboard, and running Windows Mobile?
my mogul
I love my mogul.. I do..
However, consider a Nokia n800..
It's the best phone i've had, ever. And i've been through 7 or so - maybe more phones in the last 6 months.
Hi
I have a T-Mobile Wing that I absolutely love. The only thing I dislike about it is the size ... personally, I never have use for the keyboard so started looking around and noticed that the HTC Touch has similar specs in a sleeker form factor. I'm considering selling my Wing and getting a Touch instead.
Are there any major differences between the two units besides the ROMs that they ship with? I've already installed TouchFLO on my Wing so I don't think there will be too many differences from a software side. My question is more on the hardware side - what are the comparisons/differences between the two.
Any help is greatly appreciated. Along the same lines, if anyone wants to buy/trade my Wing for a Touch, please PM me and we can discuss.
Thanks in advance.
You should ask this in the Touch Forum.
I went to a Sprint Store today and one of the reps had a Hero he had gotten over the weekend in preparation for the launch on the 11th. I got pics of the ROM info page while I was there. Someone who knows more than me can see if this includes the ROM update from HTC and if there is any other valid info. Considering he got this on friday and the release is the 11th I think this will likely be the version that is on the launched device.
IF THERE IS ANY INFO IN THESE PICS THAT REVEALS THE IDENTITY OF THE SPRINT REP PLEASE LET ME KNOW SO I CAN EDIT THEM. I DON'T WANT TO GET HIM IN TROUBLE.
eh, maybe I'm late to the game. Or maybe no one cares.
Poke_N_PDA said:
I went to a Sprint Store today and one of the reps had a Hero he had gotten over the weekend in preparation for the launch on the 11th. I got pics of the ROM info page while I was there. Someone who knows more than me can see if this includes the ROM update from HTC and if there is any other valid info. Considering he got this on friday and the release is the 11th I think this will likely be the version that is on the launched device.
IF THERE IS ANY INFO IN THESE PICS THAT REVEALS THE IDENTITY OF THE SPRINT REP PLEASE LET ME KNOW SO I CAN EDIT THEM. I DON'T WANT TO GET HIM IN TROUBLE.
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That's the same ROM that my phone has. The phone you saw was an advocate phone, not a final release version. Our ROM isn't final, since we cannot download Pandora (only available on official ROMs). There is a lot of talk that the final production version will have Donut (1.6) since it's the only Android ROM that supports CDMA. My guess is that the advocate ROM is a modified version of Cupcake, and there will be an update available at or near launch. Hopefully.
Don't get confused by the marketing name 'Hero'.
The Sprint 'Hero' is not a branded Hero for Sprint like the 'G2 Touch' for T-Mobile. It is a new device, built for Sprint with different features like CDMA, Android 1.6 and - most obviously - very different in hardware design. It has only two hardware buttons compared to six on the original Hero.
HTC's roots go back to manufacture OEM devices for big providers, and the Sprint 'Hero' is such a device. If Sprint wants an ugly version (my personal point of view) of the Hero and pay for it, they can have it ...
The Sprint 'Hero' is not as close to the original Hero as the new Tattoo. But marketingwise Sprint seems to need a 'Hero'
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The Sprint 'Hero' is not as close to the original Hero as the new Tattoo. But marketingwise Sprint seems to need a 'Hero'
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Ehhh? Apart from the radio, the Sprint 'Hero' specs are pretty much identical to the GSM Hero, and the Tattoo is *nothing* like either????
Regards,
Dave
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It has only two hardware buttons compared to six on the original Hero.
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you might wanna recount, i see the same six buttons on the sprint as on my htc, they are just different shape and not single buttons, just count the symbols around the trackball!
Indeed - whilst the other buttons look more like "touch sensitive" buttons, rather than "click push" buttons, it doesn't change the fact that they are hardware buttons.
Regards,
Dave
That's what I wrote 'hardware buttons' are buttons you can press on and get physical feedback ...
The other 4 are sensors or sensitive areas, this is really different. If you don't believe me, compare the Touch HD and Diamond 2 ... I personally like 'real' buttons for a few actions like phone on and off, home and menu ...
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The other 4 are sensors or sensitive areas, this is really different. If you don't believe me, compare the Touch HD and Diamond 2 ... I personally like 'real' buttons for a few actions like phone on and off, home and menu ...
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It is only different with respect to the physical mechanism, which is going to be part of the case. The actual phone innards itself won't know any different.
The point is that, radio aside, the Sprint Hero is much, much, closer to the original Hero than it is a Tattoo, which is a *completely* different device (lower screen res, resistive screen, no track ball, lower memory etc, etc, etc).
Regards,
Dave
According to this phonedog.com video review of the Sprint Hero, that area isn't actually a touch panel anyway and the device does have physical buttons underneath the panel which are depressed when you press the appropriate area.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcmfn3ilXd8 - about 3:45 in.
Regards,
Dave
hkr said:
That's what I wrote 'hardware buttons' are buttons you can press on and get physical feedback ...
The other 4 are sensors or sensitive areas, this is really different. If you don't believe me, compare the Touch HD and Diamond 2 ... I personally like 'real' buttons for a few actions like phone on and off, home and menu ...
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I used the phone and those are in fact hardware buttons. You press them, they move, you get physical feedback. They aren't touch surfaces. Sorry to call you out here, but I believe I can since I have used the phone (though briefly). Just because they are flush with each other and not separated buttons like the dial and end keys doesn't mean they don't move. Plastic flexes.
hkr said:
Don't get confused by the marketing name 'Hero'.
The Sprint 'Hero' is not a branded Hero for Sprint like the 'G2 Touch' for T-Mobile. It is a new device, built for Sprint with different features like CDMA, Android 1.6 and - most obviously - very different in hardware design. It has only two hardware buttons compared to six on the original Hero.
HTC's roots go back to manufacture OEM devices for big providers, and the Sprint 'Hero' is such a device. If Sprint wants an ugly version (my personal point of view) of the Hero and pay for it, they can have it ...
The Sprint 'Hero' is not as close to the original Hero as the new Tattoo. But marketingwise Sprint seems to need a 'Hero'
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Sprint Hero uses a hacked version of Cupcake 1.5 with the Donut 1.6 CDMA stack added in and maybe a couple of other things. There have also been problems with apps from the new market for 1.6 not installing/working correctly with this version of the Hero because of it still being 1.5. SPRINT/GOOGLE/HTC can we get some info on what the deal is with this I want Donut on my Hero and or Samsung Moment
I mean, does it make sense to buy one?
There are a lot more phones out there now that have way better, updated hardware. This was one of the first CDMA WM5 phones out there, so, it is kinda dated. The Apache, Touch Pro, Touch Pro2, have all came after. Look into one of those for a more recent, non-obsolete purchase.