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Is the Mogul a good unit?

My ATT Hermes broke and I have a chance to switch to any unit on any carrier in the US. I thought of the Mogul/Sprint because there is good rev A coverage where I live. I ask this because over at the Hermes threads there is allot of different roms and allot of activity going on versus here where it seems like hardly anyone posts here. Should I remain with ATT/Hermes or is the Mogul or possibly Touch a good choice?

I am really liking mine and I came from the hermes. Right now it doesnt have support for rev a evdo, but HTC is supposed to be releasing a new rom to enable it.
The titan doesn't have as much activity because there are only two version of the phone, verizon and sprint. Also, there really isnt a rom kitchen available yet (some are on the works) so thats why there isnt alot of action in that respect.
Over at ppcgeeks.com there is quite a bit more action going on about the mogul.

We are due for a sweet OS upgrade, EVDO update and phone update. This is the most customizable phone out. You can make it into anything. With a little bit of time in you can do alot with a Mogul. I use mine as a wifi hotspot, music center, tv, messenger of all sorts, phone/laptop every day. I dare an IPhone user to try and touch my functions. Almost all online vid is viewable on my Mogul and I have no problem surfing just about any site. As long as you dont anchor it down with an HTC Home mod it runs fast. Its worth every penny. I would stay far far away from any touch phone. At least with the mogul you have the best solid input with the keyboard. Its fast after you figure it out. F__k all other phones. Go Mogul or dont bother.

I've been using DCD 1.69 Kitchen on my Mogul and couldn't be more happy. I have even been working on making my own custom ROM's, so if you are worried about there not being enough ROMs out there, don't. And ture, Sprint and HTC are soon to release a new ROM that enabled GPS and Rev A.

Is the Mogul an upgrade or a downgrade from a Hermes?
My contract is up with ATT/Cingular and I am looking at switching to Alltel because their plans are cheaper (with data/tethering). I currently have a Hermes. However, I do not understand enough about the hardware specs to know if I would be getting a better (faster) processor or slower by switching to the Mogul. Can anyone point me to a side by side comparison between the Hermes and Mogul? Also, I have not yet searched all the posts, but is this "Rev A" referred to here out already? Thanks.

Better than the rest
I have looked into the other phones, and although there are benefits to each the mogul seems to be the best, most well rounded phone out there. Though there may be fewer ROMS available compared to other phones, that may be due to the customizations available through the ROMs that are out there. DCD and some of the others are really stable and have the ability to run almost everything that is out there. Buy an 8 gig card, download the sprint ROM and DCD Rom version based on your cellphone carrier, and have fun.
You may have more RAM on the touch and some others, but functionality due to keyboard and buttons are in the favor of the Tytn/Mogul/xv6800.

I'm on Alltel and I really like my 6800. Pretty much my only gripe about it is constantly checking my available memory, its pretty much always right around 16 megs or available ram.... which gets old sometimes.
but this will probably be my last HTC device I own due to the way they are dealing with all the driver issues ive been reading about. not really much in the way of customer service IMO.

Is there another phone out there with a 2.8 screen (or larger), slide out keyboard, and running Windows Mobile?

my mogul
I love my mogul.. I do..
However, consider a Nokia n800..

It's the best phone i've had, ever. And i've been through 7 or so - maybe more phones in the last 6 months.

htc magic

so the fcc has approved the magic for tmobile. what does that mean for us g1ers.

Depends on the cost and hardware. I hear its pretty much the exact same as the G1 inside and if thats the case I most likely wont. However, if the GPS reciever is better then maybe. My only gripe with the G1 since it never seems to work for me.
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i don't see the point at all.
now that we nearly have the Magic ROM ported to the G1 i don't see the need to spend money to get nearly exactly the same phone but without a keyboard.(which is the best part if you ask me )
the only way i'd get one is if when my contract runs out and they offer it me as an upgrade.

I like it dont get me wrong..but like many G1 users (probably) its got to have the keyboard...some complain to me they dont like their G1 because it has a keyboard and lackof onscreen keyboard...but I rather have the keyboard and more screen space...
Ill be keeping my G1

I'll keep my G1 too the only thing that the g1 does not have that the magic does is more rom memory and that's because the rom in the Magic is bigger other than that is the same hardware less the keyboard. (I don't like screen keyboard they drive me crazy). One thing I don't know yet is if they are using the full power of the processor in the Magic as I have red before in the G1 is running like a half, but this still is not a reason I think that later you will see a overclock app for the g1 as they are for the winmo.
And like somebody else said haykuro almost have the HtcMagic rom ported to the G1.

Htc hero rom porting...

This is thread about porting the ORIGINAL ROM of HTC HERO that HTC announced in its event on 24th June...........
Any one who gets hold of the ROM please upload it here so that the devs can start porting ...
The ROM that original firmware has is slight different and it seemed to be much more complete and smoother....
THE ROM IS NOT YET THERE>>> THIS IS FOR DISCUSSION

If this a discussion thread then i will move it to general, thanks for the clarification

i cant wait until we get it. hopefully Haykuro shows up with it out of the blue and becomes our Hero.

How does everyone think the Sense UI Rom will run on our G1s? Do you think it will be as fast as it was in the Hero Demo or will it be slightly slower than that because the Dream has less ROM/RAM vs the Hero?

im sure that it will be faster than our current hero rom with a2sd. It might be a little slower but i dont think it should be that noticeable of a difference.

it should be able to run well...swapper will make up for the ram we dont have and a class 6 card will also help our cause.

HTC Hero G3 Released to T-mobile and G1 update
looks like T-mobile will Released Hero by November and December and
will released the flash player to all G1 (OTA UPDATE)
update code Name: flash (V2.0) update..

"HTC's Sense UI not coming to any "Google" branded phones"
We've got some good and bad news... mostly bad, though. First, the good news: HTC is looking into finding a way to bring its new Sense UI -- the one featured prominently in the new Hero -- to its non-Google branded Android devices, such as Canadian carrier Roger Wireless' Magic. Unfortunately, and this is the bad news, even that's not a sure thing, and as you can probably guess from the wording, any phone that's got the "with Google" branding, like T-Mobile USA's G1 and myTouch 3G, won't be getting a chance at all due to the same licensing terms that prevented Microsoft Exchange clients on those same phones. Them's the breaks, folks, but we're sure some hacker with enough know-how will bypass the silly restrictions and do it anyway.
taken from - http://www.engadget.com/ -

well until the Rogers phones get rooted, they better not leave out the Dream on Rogers or I'm going to be rather upset.
Of cousre I'll take root and a hacked ROM any day

Rosco911 said:
"HTC's Sense UI not coming to any "Google" branded phones"
We've got some good and bad news... mostly bad, though. First, the good news: HTC is looking into finding a way to bring its new Sense UI -- the one featured prominently in the new Hero -- to its non-Google branded Android devices, such as Canadian carrier Roger Wireless' Magic. Unfortunately, and this is the bad news, even that's not a sure thing, and as you can probably guess from the wording, any phone that's got the "with Google" branding, like T-Mobile USA's G1 and myTouch 3G, won't be getting a chance at all due to the same licensing terms that prevented Microsoft Exchange clients on those same phones. Them's the breaks, folks, but we're sure some hacker with enough know-how will bypass the silly restrictions and do it anyway.
taken from - http://www.engadget.com/ -
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heh this isn't much to worry about. as soon as someone gets hold of the phone, it's only a matter of doing a "adb pull /system system" and uploading it somewhere for us to be able to grab it and run with it
AverageCanadian said:
well until the Rogers phones get rooted, they better not leave out the Dream on Rogers or I'm going to be rather upset.
Of cousre I'll take root and a hacked ROM any day
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why not both? ;P

haykuro said:
heh this isn't much to worry about. as soon as someone gets hold of the phone, it's only a matter of doing a "adb pull /system system" and uploading it somewhere for us to be able to grab it and run with it
why not both? ;P
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This is why I love xda

does anyone think that this could be done without root, similar to the manual update for T-Mobile 1.5? Maybe you could just edit the contents of T-Mobile 1.5 to add the UI changes?

I really doubt it, if it were possible I think we would've done that with some of the ROMs that have been released. You're on a developer website, you have to take some risks because this is "in development' not finished.

as I stated in another thread, HTC is not bringing sense to "with Google" branded phones, however, there are non google dreams out there, I think roger's is one of them. Once rogers gets rosie, it's gonna be an easy port to any dream rom.
Anyway, if somebody dumps a hero rom, there shouldn't be a reason why it wouldn't run on Dream. Hero is comparable in hardware (memory size and storage capacity) to the sapphire, so it'd only be a matter of making rosie run in less memory (192 vs 288) and fit in a smaller space (256 vs 512). The processors by Qualcomm on both devices are very similar, the hero's being a revision of dream's and sapphire's processors, and they both share the same arm11 core. Both processors are capable of running at 528mhz, so, really, there's very little difference between both devices. Again, a rogers dream port would be better, but Hero port will still work fine on dream

So apparently this phone isn't very popular...

I'm having serious contemplations about picking up a TP2 and flashing it over to 6.5 with the Leo Sense UI ROM. With that beautiful keyboard, it almost seems too good to pass up. I can keep the Imagio sidelined for a while until the community grows and we start seeing real customization happen for this device. What do you guys think? Honestly, money isn't an issue and my phone is literally the most important thing I touch all day (aside from my girl, man if she saw this haha) so "wasting" the money isn't something I'm concerned with.
I'd be very happy using the flashed TP2 for several months or longer until the Imagio community picks up, then I can always switch back and Ebay the TP2.
It seems like the Imagio launched with very little push from Verizon; a lot of stores by me don't even carry the device in the store, and I pretended not to own the device and ask about it and they seem to have been told to downplay the Imagio in favor of the Droid. Leaves me scratching my head a bit, but oh well. Honestly I love the Imagio, but the lack of customization and the seemingly small amount of people that have one right now are shying me away over to the TP2. I have too many issues with the stock ROM including the memory issues and apparent GPS problem (it's like using QuickGPS is a necessity and that the GPS won't work without it, very annoying).
Any comments guys? I'm sitting on the Verizon site wondering if pushing the purchase button laying before me on the TP2 will be worth it. That Leo ROM looks too promising >_>.

Ive been having the thought of trading my Imagio for a TP2 or even a Droid cross my mind several of times the past week.
7 More days till I can trade it for anything.
Fairly certain I'm going to keep it as I find it's styling is much better than the TP2's, definitely better than the Droid's, and I like it's thickness.

SaosinEngaged said:
I'm having serious contemplations about picking up a TP2 and flashing it over to 6.5 with the Leo Sense UI ROM. With that beautiful keyboard, it almost seems too good to pass up. I can keep the Imagio sidelined for a while until the community grows and we start seeing real customization happen for this device. What do you guys think? Honestly, money isn't an issue and my phone is literally the most important thing I touch all day (aside from my girl, man if she saw this haha) so "wasting" the money isn't something I'm concerned with.
I'd be very happy using the flashed TP2 for several months or longer until the Imagio community picks up, then I can always switch back and Ebay the TP2.
It seems like the Imagio launched with very little push from Verizon; a lot of stores by me don't even carry the device in the store, and I pretended not to own the device and ask about it and they seem to have been told to downplay the Imagio in favor of the Droid. Leaves me scratching my head a bit, but oh well. Honestly I love the Imagio, but the lack of customization and the seemingly small amount of people that have one right now are shying me away over to the TP2. I have too many issues with the stock ROM including the memory issues and apparent GPS problem (it's like using QuickGPS is a necessity and that the GPS won't work without it, very annoying).
Any comments guys? I'm sitting on the Verizon site wondering if pushing the purchase button laying before me on the TP2 will be worth it. That Leo ROM looks too promising >_>.
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I have had it over a month now and really like it.There are issues but nothing that will be a deal breaker.I thought about the droid but didnt want to re invent the wheel.I don't regret buying the phone.Having internet email at the touch of a button is very cool.I am happy with my decision

I guess it depends on what you want to do. I'm not particularly interested in cooked roms (for now) so I don't mind the absence. I've been able to customize with tweaks so that the things that bugged me are either gone or invisible. And I find it phenomenally useful for work.

I love this phone!!!
I like that it is not main stream, since I can still use most of the TP2 hacks and make it do all I like, I find my self with a very unique phone that does all and more than I wanted or needed and still look gorgeous. My battery issues are a thing of the past after tweaking the memory some and it is very reliable.
Many use Iphones/Droid and when I pop out my HTC Imagio people still jawdrop off how nice it looks, as americanmetal says, it is thick and feels strong yet perfect size.

Only thing I miss is a hardware keyboard, but this makes up for it nice enough. Other than that, I love my Imagio. I have no idea why it doesn't seem to be popular at all.

y0himba said:
I have no idea why it doesn't seem to be popular at all.
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Part of it could be that "Windows Phone" sparks excitement in no one at all. What a terrible marketing campaign.

untitled_one said:
Part of it could be that "Windows Phone" sparks excitement in no one at all. What a terrible marketing campaign.
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Dido, Exactly. Unfortunately, it released in a time when Moto droid commercials where running ramped, the imagio was doomed from the start. Not to mention my fiance and I were exchanging our droid for a new one and the whole store is set up around android. They have a booth with bright colors with the droid and droid eris. It took me searching through the entire store to even find the imagio it was put next to the freakin casio exilim. The only people who buy it are the ones who actually know enough about mobile devices to know that as of right now the imagio is the most functional device in the store. I am finally starting to see imagio ads on sides of websites but honestly it is a bust on the imagio. I think once sprint gets their diamond2, which actually is a whitestone, not a topaz, we'll have more support. Sprint I hope will promote the device, I'm not looking for droid or iphone type bandwagoning, but enough to entice those moderately tech savy.
But let's face it both the imagio and moto droid phones are out of date currently due to the upcoming passion and hd2 so sprint needs to hurry and mobilize the cdma diamond 2. Of course when you buy anything it is immediately out of date. The imagio has a much better chance of staying as current as possible due to flashing than the moto droid, which you can flash new roms, however, there is a limit to what you actually can acheive. this is one of win mo's strong points.

Yeah the fact is, the Imagio is on 1 carrier worldwide and has only been out like 6 weeks. Other devices like the TP2, have been out in other countries, and on more carriers both GSM and CDMA so the support/demand is higher there. It will come, but it will be slower with less overall demand by the userbase.

Droid - No Exchange
I have a friend who just did the opposite and traded in his Droid for the Imagio. The lack of corporate Exchange support was a MAJOR factor in his trade. I traded in my TP2 for an Imagio myself and I'm very happy with it.
Now someone please get the new Sense UI working on this thing!!

Yeah, honestly if I could be using the new Sense UI on my Imagio I'd be much happier.
I don't get why HTC went with WM 6.5, but didn't throw Sense UI on there as well. It seems stupid.

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It seems like the Imagio launched with very little push from Verizon; a lot of stores by me don't even carry the device in the store, and I pretended not to own the device and ask about it and they seem to have been told to downplay the Imagio in favor of the Droid.
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It's all ABOUT the MONEY.
Moto is trying to BUY their way back into the Cell Phone Market
that they lost. Moto is buying TV ads to get back in the game and
who is Moto Promoting - Verizon. If you had a Company Paying for
your Advertising - which product would you push onto Customers.

I just thought it was funny that the add on the top of this page right now is for Windows Phone and it has the tiniest pic of the imagio. You really can't tell what it is even unless you are familiar with it.

My only issue with the Imagio is that it lags, when browsing and moving from app to app. The Exchange support on the Droid is just plain half ass'd. You cannot accept appointments and move emails or see your nested folder stucture. Exchange integration is primary for me so WinMo wins despite its shortcomings. Unfortunately, WinMo has a bad wrap and then forum posters all over just want to follow the crowd.

It should be.........
I've had my Imagio about 2 weeks now and I think it's a fantastic device. Although issues have been posted on this site, most appear to be solvable as the product matures. My biggest issue has been that the phone has no "hold" button.

I'm trialing an imagio for 30 days. Coming from the tp2 which I love I thought it was a no brainer to have basically the same device in a more lightweight package, sans hard kb. I still like to whip out the stylus tho and find it's location on the left side cumbersome. I'm right handed. I am missing my hardware kb also, but hope to get used to not having it in some more days time. I hate getting finger grease/smudges on my beautiful device, So dealing with that. I may find I'm just a hardware keyboard kinda guy. Keeping the tp2 so no worries going back. Was going to try a droid, but I have so many wm apps that would go to waste,I hate to do that. I'm on the fence, love the lesser weight and good looks, but , but, but.......gotta keep going with this trial.
Side note: I'm dealing with the imagio's seemed memory issues and apps like opera not loading fully because of lo mem issues. When I look at my free ram I see an ample amount so I think this a bug. I've heard rumors of a patch that fixes this from htc, nothing solid, but if it becomes a pita then it will go back and tp2 will again reign supreme.

I see more Imagio commercials than Droid commercials now

The Forgotten Phone
This is really strange, I know in the on going battle between form and function everyone on this site will always pick form, but lets face it, the iphone is sexy
HTC finally makes a phone with the function of the glorious HTC touch pro 2 and the sexiness of the iphone and its a flop. I mean I really enjoy this phone ( I even signed up for the Vcast TV... Lame I know
It has real open platform availability (not like the iphone or even the droid )
There are tons of reviews about who's browser is better the iphone or the droid, I current have 3!!! browers on my phone ( I just pick which one I like better at the time ) (internet explorer mobile does better at mobile websites then opera or skyfire ). My friends at work were wondering whens flash going to be added to the iphone or droid, so I showed them sky fire
5 Megapixal Camera (eat your heart out TP2, and Iphone )
Real (not hacked ) Tethering (sorry Iphone, Droid)
Real FULLY functional exchange support, which some of us NEED!!!!!
ability to run simultaneous apps ( sorry iphone ) ability to EASILY close and running apps (sorry droid, 5 clicks to close an app is way too much)
Yeah I know the droid as the google maps navigation, which is buggy, but it is kool. But its windows mobile, you can purchase your own nav software or download ( from a site that rhymes with ppcTorez ) the windows mobile version of google navigation.
Free and functional Microsoft Office!!!!!! *sorry iphone and droid
I should give a shot out to the TP2 for having an awesome keyboard, but when I'm watching comedy central on the highway ( not driving of course) while shooting 5 megapixal shots, while the girl in the next car is starring at my oh so sexy phone. I dont feel so bad
Although it does bug me to have to explain to folks all the time its not an Iphone or a blackberry storm!!! Jesus christ Microsoft can we freakin get just one commerical!!
But as much as I love this phone, and I regret sending in the rebate form ( now I cant exchange the phone ) this lack of support from the gods of windows mobile ( in this forum as well as the great guys at ppcgeeks ) means less cool customizations except for the ones we can mooch off the TP2 threads
PS Hey guys, this new Samsung Omnia 2 that just came out, any thoughts
it has a bigger screen
faster processor
a flash
I feel like those samsung guys went straight after this phone

I like my Imagio. When I went to the standard Windows Phone interface instead of HTC's, my memory issues disappeared. I always have 40-50% of my memory available.
I probably would have gone to the Omnio II if it had been available within my 30 days, just for the faster speed and flash. And the issue of faster speed for me is how fast it rotates when I turn the phone to landscape. Oh well. Otherwise, I'm happy enough.
To me, google nav has the same problem google maps has: you don't always have a 3G signal even with Verizon, and relying on downloading maps as you're moving is...not reliable. I use Garmin XT for nav. Try using Google Nav while you're in the mountains!
Heck, I even got my Imagio Garmin nav to work while I was flying to Philly (in airplane mode no less). Funny seeing that speed indicator at 520mph over Toledo (I was trying to figure out where we were).
Like others, I've certainly impressed some iPhone users with live video via Justin.tv on Skyfire, and they had to gather around my little phone on its funky pop-out stand like everyone else.

3 weeks now
I love mine , heavy MS exchange user and it works great . would like to get my tomtom working or at least a really good 3d gps. i put swipe and finger keyboard on it and love the swipe keying. find new apps every day. it really is the phone that gets me.

Interest in Galaxy on AT&T? This may interest you...

Interesting at AT&T
But my next problem that may make me want to wait: AT&T locking down apps to market only. So, I would like to know that it can be rooted; and I would like for a load to put it back to stock exists before I root.
Wonder how long all this will take...

Already posted here

From the looks of it, ATT/Samsung will not be including the front facing camera.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/17/samsung-captivate-is-atandts-version-of-the-galaxy-s-launching/
I want it, but then again I don't. HTC Please make a EVO for AT&T... pretty please.

Also reading the press release at CNN.COM, it says "...Also available to users at no additional charge is access to AT&T's entire national Wi-Fi network " (I wonder if that means a specific data package is required. I currently already have the old 'unlimited', but really 5GB, package).
Also, the picture of the phone on teh AT&T site in my first post is not the same as the International version of Galaxy. It appears to have 4 hard buttons at the bottom. I actually may like that, if I can come up with an app like AE Button Plus that I use heavily on my WinMo phone now.
Again, my main concerns are about only being able to load apps from teh Android Market. I wonder if I am making more out of that than what it is. I've just seen others complain about this, and am jumping on that complaining bandwagon. So far, that is the only concern for me. Taking me back to wondering about root, and moreso, being able to take it back to stock in case I need to warranty it.
Regarding the front camera, on one level I'd like it, but when its all said and done, I feel it would probably not be used much once the new wore off. I can live without that.
I am excited with the anticipation though...

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Also, the picture of the phone on teh AT&T site in my first post is not the same as the International version of Galaxy. It appears to have 4 hard buttons at the bottom. I actually may like that, if I can come up with an app like AE Button Plus that I use heavily on my WinMo phone now.
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Looks to me like they're touch sensitive buttons, not hardware buttons.
Most likely they will block sideloading like they did on the Aria. But hopefully this will get rooted quickly like the recent Android releases on xda.
I'm excited that AT&T decided to release the Galaxy S in the flesh with the original hardware (sans front-facing camera, meh ) but I'm kinda feeling iffy on the AT&T design of the device. I really liked the original design. This version makes it look...cheap. Of course, AT&T wouldn't want another phone looking like the iPhone.

I wonder what it will be like on Verizon, and when.