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Question for those who use WiFi on their X1

How far from the WiFi HotSpot can your X1 get before the connection is useless? I'm in a house and it barely works in the next room (newer house, walls made of drywall). My brother has an iPod Touch that works all over the house perfectly (same router). I'm wondering if there is something wrong with the WiFi radio on my X1?

i get v good coverage from the x1 as good as the iphone. try changing your radio firmware

WhyBe,
Is it set to best performance or best battery?
Go under settings to check.
Cheers.

Doesn't it depend on the HotSpot itself ?- I mean on the router, its signal strength and etc...I connect to my router trough 2 brick + concrete walls and have no problems at all...Always connected in every room

cooin said:
Doesn't it depend on the HotSpot itself ?- I mean on the router, its signal strength and etc...I connect to my router trough 2 brick + concrete walls and have no problems at all...Always connected in every room
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same , even good outside/inside the neighbours house ,
be sure to have the 1.15 or 1.16 radio (or smthing like that , the new ones)
+what poisonwolf said
and dont buy a metal case for ur phone
also helps if i slide open the phone for me ... and its good to face the router too (not with ur back towards it)

cooin said:
Doesn't it depend on the HotSpot itself ?- I mean on the router, its signal strength and etc...I connect to my router trough 2 brick + concrete walls and have no problems at all...Always connected in every room
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I can always connect to my router from the door on the street (I live on the first floor) and everywhere in the house including the bedroo with router being on the corridor outside.
And I did not tweak anything in my EnergyROM 3.0

Thanks all. I have never specifically changed my radio firmware. Is this something that is updated when I change ROMs? I've went from R1a to R2a to R3a. Does the radio get changed with these?
I have the X1 set to best performance.

It depends on what kind of router you have. The cheap ones are crappy. I have a medium spec one and I get good connectivity through 3 walls.

I have a LinkSys G router. It is pretty common. Everything I use works fine with it (3 laptops and iPod Touch). Only the X1 can see it but not connect.

WhyBe said:
I have a LinkSys G router. It is pretty common. Everything I use works fine with it (3 laptops and iPod Touch). Only the X1 can see it but not connect.
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Did you see the settings in the phone that allow you to use better Wi-Fi reception, but get poor battery life? I had problems with Wi-Fi until I set it to "better performance" rather than "better battery life".

Yes, it is set to best performance. My X1 recognizes the router but doesn't connect. I'm wondering if there is some other problem?
EDIT: OK, I just discovered that if I turn off the phone radio, the WiFi works properly. Is it supposed to be this way?

with linksys and all other routers really one have to upgrade the firmware once in awhile
to get best support with newer devices

WhyBe said:
Yes, it is set to best performance. My X1 recognizes the router but doesn't connect. I'm wondering if there is some other problem?
EDIT: OK, I just discovered that if I turn off the phone radio, the WiFi works properly. Is it supposed to be this way?
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Nope. There is a problem. I have no idea what it could be though . Maybe an update is a good thought.

I only use stock ROMs and haven't really tweaked my system beyond factory state. So I don't see why I need to update anything. I'm thinking there is some sort of conflict between my internet settings for the phone and the internet settings for the WiFi connection?

WhyBe said:
I only use stock ROMs and haven't really tweaked my system beyond factory state. So I don't see why I need to update anything. I'm thinking there is some sort of conflict between my internet settings for the phone and the internet settings for the WiFi connection?
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Update the router not the phone .

WhyBe said:
Yes, it is set to best performance. My X1 recognizes the router but doesn't connect. I'm wondering if there is some other problem?
EDIT: OK, I just discovered that if I turn off the phone radio, the WiFi works properly. Is it supposed to be this way?
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Mine did that when I 1st tried to set it up, it would find the network (hidden) ok, but would not connect. No matter what I tried, even though 2 pc's (wired), laptop (wireless), xbox (wired) & iPod touch (wireless) were working fine.
I gave up on the X1 and turned my attention to the router, tried a static IP for the X1 etc (it's back on DCHP now), after rebooting the router, the X1 connected and worked fine and it has ever since. I have no idea why - but initially it would not connect - something funny with the router.

I have a netgear router and every now and then kicks me off. i have to disable my wifi on the x1 and reconnect or even power off the router and back on for it to work.
Turn off your router for 1 minute and power back on then try to reconnect your x1.

I have a Linksys WRT160N router and it actually doesn't even detect it when it transmits mixed speed, only of I put it on B and G it detects it.
Otherwise the signal is average, a bit worse then my laptop.

WhyBe said:
How far from the WiFi HotSpot can your X1 get before the connection is useless? I'm in a house and it barely works in the next room (newer house, walls made of drywall). My brother has an iPod Touch that works all over the house perfectly (same router). I'm wondering if there is something wrong with the WiFi radio on my X1?
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I only use Wi-Fi at my university. Well basically my Wi-Fi works everywhere around campus, at the dorms, and at the movie theater right next to school.
It's freaking great, but I prefer 3G. I just can't afford it.

wifi wont work

ive tried 3 builds today. all of them are sense builds and none of them will work with wifi. it turns on it finds my network but wont connect.
ive never had a problem before on any builds.
thought it might have been my router but i tried with my moms incredible it was fine.
any ideas?

well i looked it up and apparently other people have had issues with the actual evo 4g and some routers.
can anyone guide me through setting up a fios router for a static ip so i can make this work.
i thought i had it setup right but i guess not

ok hopefully someone may read.
i setup a static ip on the phone. it will connect to the network now but i dont actually get any data... it says connected but i cant do anything web related. do i have to do anything on the router?

1-Tried a non-sense build before ? if then did the data work ?
2- whats your WinMo Rom ?
3- Do you copy your DATA.img or just create a new one when trying different builds ?

every build before has worked. its only evo roms that dont.
chuckydroid
and each time ive let it build its own data.img
son of a... trying a sense build now that isnt evo. and i can get it to connect with a static ip. but still no actual internet. just connected to the router
so i plugged another router into the crappy fios modem/router and i have that network up and i can connect to it without a static ip.
BUT i cant get that router to actually get internet from fios either...
so obviously its fios fault can anyone help fix that

lbhocky19 said:
every build before has worked. its only evo roms that dont.
chuckydroid
and each time ive let it build its own data.img
son of a... trying a sense build now that isnt evo. and i can get it to connect with a static ip. but still no actual internet. just connected to the router
so i plugged another router into the crappy fios modem/router and i have that network up and i can connect to it without a static ip.
BUT i cant get that router to actually get internet from fios either...
so obviously its fios fault can anyone help fix that
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You can look if your access point is giving dns adresses to your phone. Without dsn adresses you can connect but the translation from url to ipadresses wont work.

how do i check?
right now it says its connected to my network. i setup the static ip.
but in the fios router it doesnt show it as being connected. it shows 2 laptops in the house connected and my desktop so why not my phone?

Have you checked for mac-adress filtering in your router? Some of the builds give the device a different mac adress. Your router may be blocking unknown mac adresses.
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**** sake. ive gone back to a nexus build and now this wont connect. something got screwed up royally. but i flashed a new winmo rom. new radio and tried all these different builds. how can a problem be still there?
once again im connected to the network but i get no data,
on fios i dont see my phone listed in the networked devices.
i checked mac filtering and its allowing any
i have that situation.
but i still have the 2nd router which i dont know why its not getting internet from the fios router but the network itself works

Maybe your router will only let see device who got a dhcp adres from your router. because you use a static ipadres maybe it will wont appear.

henv said:
Maybe your router will only let see device who got a dhcp adres from your router. because you use a static ipadres maybe it will wont appear.
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i never had to use static before.
i dont get why all of a sudden i cant just connect normally to it especially since my moms incredible connects without a problem

lbhocky19 said:
i never had to use static before.
i dont get why all of a sudden i cant just connect normally to it especially since my moms incredible connects without a problem
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It is strange. Is your dhcp range big enough? Maybe expand this. Did you get a ip in the range of your other devices? DNS adresses (if necesary) you can get by about from your internet provider.
did you reboot router?

im officially about to go insane.
now in winmo it will connect to my wifi but it also doesnt really have a connection.
could this somehow be hardware?
i dont see how since it finds the network and have to put the pw in to connect..

ok thanks to everyone who suggested stuff.
i have no idea what just happened but after i tested my touch pro and saw that it connected. i just once again deleted the network on my hd2 and put it back in and it works without needing static ip.
i just wasted half a day and still dont know what the issue was...
but now im afraid to change builds again

Maybe a hiccup. Still was a strange issue. Happy for you it work now. I understand you're afraid to change build now. But what is life without taking risks
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henv said:
Maybe a hiccup. Still was a strange issue. Happy for you it work now. I understand you're afraid to change build now. But what is life without taking risks
Sent from HD2
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haha i already broke down and gave it a shot and alls good, im just staying away from anything with evo in the name for now

lbhocky19 said:
haha i already broke down and gave it a shot and alls good, im just staying away from anything with evo in the name for now
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Nice. Could it be that the problem was with ppp and you're now on rmnet
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henv said:
Nice. Could it be that the problem was with ppp and you're now on rmnet
Sent from HD2
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doubt it, ive used both before

Wifi Possibly broken

HI
last night i rooted my phone using the exploid x10 root apk, at first it worked fine and so i left is plugged in over night to transfer all my music onto my new sd card
but this morning it seems the wifi has broken
it connects to the network but will not send or receive data, so the browser says no connection, so does the market etc
i have reflashed its software 3 times even downgraded back to the R1, still no luck, its not even rooted and its broken
any1 had the same issue? i have searched the forum but the ppl with the sam issue have not been helped. please i dont want to spend $$ to get it fixed i have no job

Hi.
No problem with the wifi so far.This is strange.
Do you have warranty?
Sound stupid but did you try to reset your router?
If nothing is working you should go to the service.

yea i messed around with wifi router, nothing, i can browse the net on 3g wich is odd, but 3g is expensive so that cnt be the solution. bluetooth and 3g work obv but the wifi cannot connect itl connect to the wirelss just NO datac exchange?

There is someone with the same kind of problem but on an EVO 4g, but i really do not understand what they reply's mean. Maybe you do?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=800910
tried to search on google and came across a LOT of people having this same issue, on laptops, iphones, ipads, which lead to the conclusion that it may not be a wifi failure?

well it cant be a complete wifi failure kuz i used the dev menu and it says wlam enabled and scanning just no connection

thanks
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There is someone with the same kind of problem but on an EVO 4g, but i really do not understand what they reply's mean. Maybe you do?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=800910
tried to search on google and came across a LOT of people having this same issue, on laptops, iphones, ipads, which lead to the conclusion that it may not be a wifi failure?
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+1 and so much more for all your help man
i managed to fix it, it wasnt my device as such it was my router, too so i fiddled around with both mainly giving my x10 a static ip and bam it worked, cheers!!

I too have a wifi problem, but it is quiet a different one and i have no idea how to solve it.
when I connect to wifi at home my router reboots, but there is no such problem when i connect to my office.
I tried reseting the router at home and still no use, once it got connected and when i started a download from the market the router again rebooted.
How can i solve this????

xarchitect said:
I too have a wifi problem, but it is quiet a different one and i have no idea how to solve it.
when I connect to wifi at home my router reboots, but there is no such problem when i connect to my office.
I tried reseting the router at home and still no use, once it got connected and when i started a download from the market the router again rebooted.
How can i solve this????
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Tried diffrent encryptions? like WPA2 or WEP?
Maybe switch from G to N standard (or vise versa, if availible?)

marice22 said:
Tried diffrent encryptions? like WPA2 or WEP?
Maybe switch from G to N standard (or vise versa, if availible?)
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Sorry for my ignorance what is G to N standard ?
and i will try doing wep and wpa2 once i reach home !!

xarchitect said:
Sorry for my ignorance what is G to N standard ?
and i will try doing wep and wpa2 once i reach home !!
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see: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_802.11#802.11g

The X10 doesn't support 802.11n

no one said that it did..
My router uses N and i still connect fine

Seansmit17 said:
no one said that it did..
My router uses N and i still connect fine
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Somebody told him to try to switch the router from b/g to n. That was the point of my post.
And your router obviously operates all 3 standards at once

[Q] WIFI connections

I have connections problems with my WIFI-Router!
I don't know where the problem is!
I have my wifi connection saved to my cell phone ("Remembered the network") but when the router is ON the phone tells me "Not in range" and doesn't connect to it automatically! AND that happens on the remaining 2 android phones that i have! So i guess the problem is not in the phone! Besides they scan many wifi signals in the area but not the one of my house!
However, if i keep restarting the router and forgetting the network then adding it manually, "sometimes" it works and all phones can connect normally to the router!
It is bugging me a lot because sometimes 2 days pass without being able to connect!!!
What can be this problem?!
Thanks
PS: PCs and my bro's nokia symbian connect normally to the router all the time!
I know this has something to do with MAC addresses and IP addresses but i dunno what...

What kind of router do you have, and what kind of network security?
Maybe try changing from wep to wap, I had Android on my old Rhodium, and it would connect to wap and unsecured, but wep wouldn't work. I think HD2's don't have the same problem, but anything's worth a try. There is no such thing as failure, just finding out what doesn't work before you can find out what does work
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huggs said:
What kind of router do you have, and what kind of network security?
Maybe try changing from wep to wap, I had Android on my old Rhodium, and it would connect to wap and unsecured, but wep wouldn't work. I think HD2's don't have the same problem, but anything's worth a try. There is no such thing as failure, just finding out what doesn't work before you can find out what does work
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First thanks for the reply!
I guess the problem is in the router too! Although i didn't have that problem weeks ago
I have D-Link router and secured with WEP!
Ok i will try to change the security
But does changing the security will affect the PC connection!?

wifi home network

im about to smash a phone.. i use my wireless at home to connect to with my phone to not use my data up. all of a sudden my wifi will shut off as soon as i start to download something in the Market. The only thing i know that was changed was a windows update a few days back so i uninstalled the KB fixes and rebooted. reset my dsl modem to factory defaults. using my same ssid and psk, read forums all over for tips but nothing has worked. havent factory reset the phone itself yet. seems its a problem with the atrix but I havent had the problem until like 2 days ago.
*i changed my router to WEP from WPA and Im able to stay connected so far.

Assuming you're using a wireless router and not using your windows computer as a pseudo hotspot, windows updates and settings on your computers shouldn't have any possible impact between your Atrix and router. Also, I can only imagine that the problem is on your phone, not anything else, since your wifi only shuts off when you go to the Market.
Weird that changing the encryption fixes it, but seriously, don't leave it set to WEP. It literally takes seconds to crack the password and very little technical know-how to do. I would factory reset your phone, should fix it.
Oh, and have you flashed any ROMs onto your phone? Some of them have (or at least had) issues with wifi for certain users. That could be your problem.

trapjawmusic said:
im about to smash a phone.. i use my wireless at home to connect to with my phone to not use my data up. all of a sudden my wifi will shut off as soon as i start to download something in the Market. The only thing i know that was changed was a windows update a few days back so i uninstalled the KB fixes and rebooted. reset my dsl modem to factory defaults. using my same ssid and psk, read forums all over for tips but nothing has worked. havent factory reset the phone itself yet. seems its a problem with the atrix but I havent had the problem until like 2 days ago.
*i changed my router to WEP from WPA and Im able to stay connected so far.
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Is your router old? I have an old one, and I am having the same problem if I use anything other than WEP. Some people have said that a firmware update to their router helped. It didn't help me.

What type of WPA are you using?

i have the same problem at home, keep having the message on my phone network unreachable, after i wait few min then comes back to it. Very anoying
Atrix 4
1.83 gingerblur 3.1

-new DSL modem/router combo. Westell 7500
-i haven't rooted or flashed this phone yet.
-wpa-wpa2-tkip(and tried aes) with a wpa shared key at 3600 interval.
figured it was being booted by the firewall but i didnt see anything in the log. turned the firewall off. even added the phones mac address in Wireless > MAC Filtering > Primary SSID so "Only the stations listed in the table will be Allowed access. All others will be blocked". That didnt work either.
i had a problem a while back with the phone somehow interfering with my router. it would actually cause me to lose my internet connection while i was using wifi on the phone. i fixed that problem (forgot what i did) it might would have helped to remember when this new problem occurred.

trapjawmusic said:
*i changed my router to WEP from WPA and Im able to stay connected so far.
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I would highly suggest not using WEP for security reasons, it is very easy to crack the passwords, my friend has cracked them in less than 5 min and he isn't even that computer smart (no offense to him, but its just clicking through menus).
They can even spoof MAC filtering, so dont think that will save you. If you must use WEP I would suggest monitoring your traffic and connections.
I was really surprised at how fast the password could be cracked especially with modern programs.

uisgdlyast said:
I would highly suggest not using WEP for security reasons, it is very easy to crack the passwords, my friend has cracked them in less than 5 min and he isn't even that computer smart (no offense to him, but its just clicking through menus).
They can even spoof MAC filtering, so dont think that will save you. If you must use WEP I would suggest monitoring your traffic and connections.
I was really surprised at how fast the password could be cracked especially with modern programs.
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yea. i would prefer to figure out why it stops working with wpa, but i have about gave up after trying everything but a phone factory reset, which would fix the problem possibly, but then i still wouldnt know what was the main cause.

its also working with WPA-WPA Mixed with Data Encryption on TKIP+AES

trapjawmusic said:
im about to smash a phone..
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Pics or you didn't do it!!!

CaelanT said:
Pics or you didn't do it!!!
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i would love to put a cell phone in a microwave. compact disks look so cool in them, me and a friend did that when we were like 13 (17yr ago..man, time flies). can only imagine what a cell phone would do.