My dual is strangely working from almost a week now. He didn't receive any call during a few minutes and then receive the sms from Orange telling i've missed some call. Form time to time I also can't phone or suddenly can phone again. Half an hour with Orange support when we try almost all that's possible on line dut that didn't help, and that's wronger and wronger alllong the day.
So It's now send by Orange to HTC and I'm waiting.
Did you heard somethings like that? Is it a Dual Known problem? or an Orange room problem?
Any answer welcome....
The Icon on the top said that the reception is good (three vertical lines)
and the sim card work well on other phone (tested on a Nokia and a Touch)
New HTC Dual received today.
The new one's working well untill I add some softwares.
The Niki again began to receiving call from time to time, call from the Nki still working.
The problem began after updating Norton security and adding s2u2.
Didn't really know which one is causing the problem, both are working well on a touch.
The only difference between my Touch and my dual is that the dual had am Orange room. Did you have information about that?
More trying.....
After a week of working, today, the problem of call receiving began again and is worse and worse along the day finishing with no call receiving and no calling from the niki possible. It didn't recognise any provider (at the beginning of the day, it find Orange and I can phone but not receive any call, all are going to my voice box.
I hard reset again the Niki, and install my last working backup with no more result than a non working phone but only a pda.
Carefully installing again quite all my software after a hard reset and the phone is working now perfectly.
The only think I found different from the last try is the small pop up who open when clicking on the icons on the top (connection, sound...). The pop up has desappear when the Niki's not working. The problem is that I didn't know which software is causing the problem.....
Any idea?
The problem is also only at work..... So may be, something in the surounding seems to have an effect on the Dual reception. Strange as Iphones, Touchs or Nokias seems to have no reception problem in the same room.
Ive also have the same problem, but ive solved it by disabling 3G and just going with GSM on "band" selection.
Can you see your network signal bar having one line only then this is the solution for you. Just activate 3G on sites with good signal.
Thanks for the advice, will try.
As my working place is near some IRM machines (working in an Hospital), Is it possible than my problem arise when all machine are working at the same time?
As the hospital is big, I think than almost one is working when I'm at work, but as the problem arise from time to time, not regulary, it look like something affect the NIKI reception and perhaps only the 3G. To confirm that, I left from time to time the connection when I walk just along the place where all IRM machines are.
Anybody can confirm that?
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Ive also have the same problem, but ive solved it by disabling 3G and just going with GSM on "band" selection.
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I've try To select GSM only and it works well.
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Can you see your network signal bar having one line only then this is the solution for you. Just activate 3G on sites with good signal.
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The signal is almost very good even when calling and receiving calls is not possible.
So, it seems that magnetic fields created by IRM machines can affect 3G+.
If the problem is due for example by the size of the walls, then 3G+ will never work at this place nor the GSM.
Just talk yesterday with an Orange Tech.
The UMTS antennas in the surrounding are at the same place than the GSM antennas, so my office had the best theorical coverage possible in the town.
The UMTS waves be affected by electromagnetic devices in the surrounding explaining why call can from time to time be directly rejected to the answering machine even the connection icon on my Nike is always with three lines and didn't change. It explain also that, when the phone card is inserted in other phone without UMTS, it works without any problem.
So thank again to muzikfreakah for giving me the solution. However UMTS seems to be not a very useful add.....
Is there any utility to switch automaticaly from an auto search to a maual search on a time base? Will be useful for me.
Hi i had the same problem, and found that it was the new S2U2(Newer then 0.98), that messed it up.
Im using 0.98 at the moment, and it works fine.
Anything newer than 0.98, hangs any incomming calls.
The one calling can often hear up to 10 rings, and my phone rings half a tone, when the caller hangsup, so theres no time to answer the call.
Thanks for your advice muuu, but in my case, the problem appear only from time to time at my office. So the theory involving electromagnetic fog seems the best. UMTS work fine when I'm outside work or at home and never miss a call.
However, when at work, I'm only sure with GSM to receive or make call. Seems to depend of the use of IRM (just near one of the bigest IRM machines concentration in Europe with some still under development).
S2U2 is working perfectly even with the latest version if I respect the no 3G at work and switch it back when not working.
Hope this may help somebody in the futur
Thanks I had the same problem so removed S2U2.
After talking with IRM experts, it seems that I'm rigth..... IRM interfer with 3G and Wifi and not with GSM
Switching to diamond a few month ago and never had such problem with the diamond!
Nike seems to be the only phone affected and mine after stop working during holiday's was changed by Orange for the second time. Seems to work well now for my wife, I've not tried again at work.
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Hi,
im not sure if this happens to every unit or even every network operators; I have used two units in the past 5 months and have noticed on both units that after I soft reset and the unit is booted up, the first couple of calls that i either make or receive when im travelling either by bus train or car, the calls become robotic, and similar to loss of signal (even though the phone tells me it has full signal) eventually the call is disconnected automatically. This also happens on the next call; however on the third or more call (or until the unit is softresetted again) the calls on the phone become stable and perfect...
im running on DTAC network in Thailand
This is really getting to me and Im thinking the O2 is having trouble solving this problem as I have noticed this flaw since the 200511xxROM-Radio041 (i think) all upto this current 200604xxROM-Radio049. i am going to try out the 6828 and see if its any better.
Thanks in advance for any feebacks
Hi Nutdhanai
I dont have an atom but knows the lossy network issues. I have an Gigabyte g-smart and have some problems connecting to gsm service, sometimes loss signal. No problems in call yet, but yes the other 2 mentioned.
When we buy an upcoming device, the OS are unfinished, like an preproduciont unit or similar. We need to stay seated on for the engineers rom updates...
Good luck, we'll have good devices.-.. or I hope so...
hi there!
also in thailand, using the rw 6828 and i recogize what you are talking about except that i have this instability all the time with DTAC. I cannot move between 2 cells without dropping a call. I have not tried another SIM of Truemove or AIS though, it might be better. Waiting for a ROM upgrade cause whatever the issue with the provider is my Motorola Razor v3 does ok on DTAC. So it must be the PDA, SLIGHTLY SIMILAR ISSUES with the 6365 before. Keep us posted on your experiences!
Kostas
Hi guys,
Can anyone help me... I have bought the TyTN just two days ago and since then I've been struggling with a very bad phone calls quality. I haven't been able to finish properly any single call since all of them are dropped in a middle. It looks like the phone is loosing reception whereas I know for a fact that there is a very strong signal in the location I am.
I've upgraded the software today but the problem still occurs. Do you know if this is a known issue or just this particular phone is broken?
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Hi guys,
Can anyone help me... I have bought the TyTN just two days ago and since then I've been struggling with a very bad phone calls quality. I haven't been able to finish properly any single call since all of them are dropped in a middle. It looks like the phone is loosing reception whereas I know for a fact that there is a very strong signal in the location I am.
I've upgraded the software today but the problem still occurs. Do you know if this is a known issue or just this particular phone is broken?
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Well seeing as you've upgraded the Radio and seeing as your case is quite extreme ie losing calls completely I think i'd try testing it using GSM only. Some folks have reported that if you are in an area where 3g is around but perhaps not always the strongest signal then the phone will swap around from GSM to UMTS. So you can try:
Start>Settings>Personal>Phone icon>Band
in top drop down box select GSM
in second drop down box select the GSM band for your area (if unknown try each until you get the working one)
IF this makes reception better/constant then you have the swapping bands issue and you can leave GSM selected and turn on UMTS when you are in a stronger 3G area.
If this makes no difference return the settings to auto for the drop down boxes.
If the above fails then have you got a new 3G SIM older cards can give problems.
An application that assists with setting certain bands only is Bandswitch or Commmgrpro - Here's an early version:
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-commmgrpro-0-9-0-28.html
Mike
Thanks Mike for your reply.
Actually I did play with those settings a little bit but it didn't help. I'll go to the shop where I bought the phone and ask for help. Thanks for your attention.
RG
You know of any apps or way to get a shortcut onto the today screen to quickly switch between 3g and edge? Where I work is good 3g coverage, but where I live is right on the cusp of the connection ... so I find unless I turn off the "auto select" and manually choose GSM, I have dropped call problems. Would be great to be able to do this without having to go to phone settings each time.
Weinson,
Searching for BandSwitch by Daniel Herrero on this forum will reveal just such a tool. BandSwitch sits in your WM5 task tray and has the option to switch to GSM or UTMS or Auto with some time delays (before switching back) build in.
see - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=286844
Quite often these days I am getting the issue mentioned above. Even soft resets do not seem to help. Until I reset a few more times.
What might be the cause of this? Thanks.
Hope someone might be able to assist on this. Thanks.
I'm also getting this message nearly every time I try to make a call. The phone then looks like it resets the connection with the cell tower and it successfully completes the call on the second try. Then the next time I try to call someone else it fails again. I came to this forum to see if anyone else has experienced the same problem.
Hey joej, I found out what might be causing the problem: make sure that your ActiveSync is closed before you try making a call. That fixed the problem for me.
Also, here's a quote from an email from one of my coworkers:
"Your Tytn was probably trying to dial a data connection at the same time that you were trying to dial voice and so it has to cancel the data request before you can dial out. There is a registry tweak you can do to the Tytn to keep the data connection always active when the phone is not in use and this may make it less frequent that you would have a problem
Activesync is supposed to stop when your data connection is unavailable. If you are making or receiving a call on the TyTN (or any GSM phone) your data connection will not be available and therefore not run. Do you have a lot of 3rd party apps running at startup as well? I have rarely had a problem with my Tytn and never during a call unless my battery dies on my BT headset mid call and then the device may get confused."
Hope this helps!
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Hey joej, I found out what might be causing the problem: make sure that your ActiveSync is closed before you try making a call. That fixed the problem for me.
Also, here's a quote from an email from one of my coworkers:
"Your Tytn was probably trying to dial a data connection at the same time that you were trying to dial voice and so it has to cancel the data request before you can dial out. There is a registry tweak you can do to the Tytn to keep the data connection always active when the phone is not in use and this may make it less frequent that you would have a problem
Activesync is supposed to stop when your data connection is unavailable. If you are making or receiving a call on the TyTN (or any GSM phone) your data connection will not be available and therefore not run. Do you have a lot of 3rd party apps running at startup as well? I have rarely had a problem with my Tytn and never during a call unless my battery dies on my BT headset mid call and then the device may get confused."
Hope this helps!
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thanks for the update, i however am experiencing this issue once in a while and it is not with the activesync running nor a data connection going on. ugh..... guess mine is odd
Me too
Thank so much for the post count me in there too. I am southern central PA and just last week this started happening to me too. I have an 8525.
I have no acrive data connection nor any apps running that force a data connection. Every morning I have been resetting the phone 5-6 times before the freezing stops and it works. So annoying.
I am suspecting it is a network issue with cingular and them upgrading to 3g in my area. I suspect it as I had to travel north this week and discovered 3g coverage in Harrisburg so I am betting that is it.
I feel your pain and I have no fool proof thing to do on the phone to fix it. But man the phone on the 3g is fantastic.
duman95 said:
Thank so much for the post count me in there too. I am southern central PA and just last week this started happening to me too. I have an 8525.
I have no acrive data connection nor any apps running that force a data connection. Every morning I have been resetting the phone 5-6 times before the freezing stops and it works. So annoying.
I am suspecting it is a network issue with cingular and them upgrading to 3g in my area. I suspect it as I had to travel north this week and discovered 3g coverage in Harrisburg so I am betting that is it.
I feel your pain and I have no fool proof thing to do on the phone to fix it. But man the phone on the 3g is fantastic.
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yup, everything rocks in it except the phone functionality really needs to be improved to be more usable.
do you know how i can use the phonepad to do t9 for replying SMS ? right now i am finding it hard to do so as i need to use the normal input methods which is not as easy as a normal cellphone
omg I'm from Singapore using Starhub think I'm having the same problem too. Dopod 838 pro.
A soft reset works for me, but very frustrating coz you dunno whether you are missing calls - the screen shows mobile is up with signal and all but people can't call in.
Just started happening to me past few days but then again I just took over the phone from a friend who bought it 3 months ago (latest batch)
So frustrating. ... seems related to the activesync.. but then again still happens when activesync's not involved.
duman95 said:
Thank so much for the post count me in there too. I am southern central PA and just last week this started happening to me too. I have an 8525.
I have no acrive data connection nor any apps running that force a data connection. Every morning I have been resetting the phone 5-6 times before the freezing stops and it works. So annoying.
I am suspecting it is a network issue with cingular and them upgrading to 3g in my area. I suspect it as I had to travel north this week and discovered 3g coverage in Harrisburg so I am betting that is it.
I feel your pain and I have no fool proof thing to do on the phone to fix it. But man the phone on the 3g is fantastic.
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Same here anytime Cingy plays with towers, have you ever got a message stating the call can not be completed at this time? Been getting that one lately as well.
I think that it could be an issue with the phone heightened by the nature of the cell network.
I am wondering if the phone has issues handing off between cell towers as I have the band tab active and there are freq choices so I wonder if the phone even on gsm has some issues dealing with hand offs.
I locked it on gsm and still had issues with the phone. I locked it on 850 and still had phone issues. Put it in auto for the freq and still had issues.
On the U network on Cingular since its the only one the phone is excellent. Data and voice work great. So it will get better in the US for us on Cingular. But man its going to be really annoying during the roll out.
I'm on T-Mobile and I'm seeing this problem as well. (It didn't go away after closing ActiveSync like I said it did earlier.) The weird thing is that this wasn't a problem until about a week or two ago; now all of the sudden it's happening constantly.
Also, I just installed the newest HTC ROM (1.35.255.2) yesterday and now my phone has started to drop calls. I've never had a problem with dropped calls in the 2.5 years I've lived in this apartment.
Ain't technology grand?
Well things have not improved for me. Today after 8 resets the phone finally settled down and did not freeze and was able to get on the network. It has been terrible for me the last 2 weeks...
I removed the eten dialer skin I was using. I wanted to make sure it was not due to replacing the Cingular phone skin.
We shall see tomorrow if the phone is able to work without multiple resets..
If not it is off to a hard reset and re-load to see if that improves it any...
I have taken the plunge and did a hard reset plus reinstall of everything. I had the same apps installed again and the problem seems to be gone now. *touch wood* hopefully this doesn't come again... a restore takes too long. I have also installed Sprite and did a full backup of the phone including the memory card just to be safe.
This problem started for me this morning. (NYC/NJ Area - USA). I did a hard reset (actually, two) this morning, and it didn't fix it, even when the phone first finished the initial load (in a virgin state). Then, around 11:00am, it began to work again. Now, it's about 6:30pm, and I need the phone to call home to tell them I'm gonna be late, and it's out again. Seems like it's something not to do with the phone, but with the network (I hope). It won't connect in GSM, UMTS, or AUTO modes, FWIW.
Oh well, sure hope it doesn't takle two weeks to "go away".
returned
Well I returned mine. Did the warrenty exchange. So far so good. No freezing and the phone seems to hold onto the network ok now.
I truly believe mine was defective. As the phone would show searching and not connect to the network.
I think that not being able to make a data connection is a network issue as it clears up in a few days.
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This problem started for me this morning. (NYC/NJ Area - USA). I did a hard reset (actually, two) this morning, and it didn't fix it, even when the phone first finished the initial load (in a virgin state). Then, around 11:00am, it began to work again. Now, it's about 6:30pm, and I need the phone to call home to tell them I'm gonna be late, and it's out again. Seems like it's something not to do with the phone, but with the network (I hope). It won't connect in GSM, UMTS, or AUTO modes, FWIW.
Oh well, sure hope it doesn't takle two weeks to "go away".
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also in the same area, experiencing similar problems within certain specific locations. Noteably these are locations that I get SPOTTY UMTS service, so I assume a tower upgrade is in progress or something that is causing this. Where I have full umts service, the problem does not occur.
at times i have signal, but calls don't come through (rings to calling party, but goes to voicemail before my device rings).
This is something related to 3G because when the sim is put in a blackberry 8700c, everything works A-OK.
Glad to know i am not alone in this
I have similar problems. Especially in the university of Hannover. There is UMTS. Since a few days Data Connections via Active Sync don't work.
Before I had problems with calls. For example freezing during call.
And of course in the university and on other places I have often to do calls twice.
I called O2 for that problem. They are upgrading the cell around the university to HSDPA.
Hi to all !
I had the same problems, then i removed the microSD card and the problem was gone. Now i am testing the phone without miroSD card. I forgot to say that i had the problems with boot too(No GSM) and now it boot perfectly.
Best regards
O2 XDA Trion (dopod rom)
I finally had to return the phone under warrenty. It degraded to no gsm all the time fresh from a hard reset with no mem card. The new device has been flawless radio wise for a week now.
Problems with XDA Trion SOLVED !!!
Hi again !
The microSD card was NOT the problem ! I tested the phone without SD card but that was not the problem. Then i go to my provider and change the SIM card with new one (the old one was very old so i buy new one) and wauuu it works. The XDA TRION needs the sim card with UMTS suport then it will work fine. So far NO freezing at all. I will let you know in a few days if something strange will hapen.
Best regards
Hi, to all with the problem “The operation failed” when trying to make a call:
Try to switch off bluetooth (specially if you are in UMTS (CMDA) network) and then try to make a phonecall again.
For me this helped to solve it.
First I also thought that it’s only a Provider network problem (I have 2 different providers, with one it works, with the other I have the “operation failed” problems).
So it is 100% a phone software problem. (Shame to HTC)
Give feedback if it helped you too.
Hi all, apologies for posting this, as there I know there's tons of other threads relating to this matter - I've spent quite some time reading (and being confused!) by them, but I can't seem to find a thread which a) has someone describing the exact problem I have, or b) giving a definitive solution. So here it is:
I have a UK MDA Vario II. It's my second one (replaced under warranty), this, and my first one both had a problem where I would seemingly randomly not receive calls or texts. The phone shows it has a signal, and the green light would be flashing to indicate service. However, on occasions, if you try to ring the phone, it diverts straight to voicemail. Sometimes service resumes normally (about an hour later) and I get a message informing me of my missed calls, and sometimes I have to do a soft reset to get it working again.
What I have gathered from reading on these forums is that I may need to upgrade my radio - it had version 1.05.02.00 on it (which it must have been shipped with).
So - following instructions, I put HardSPL 2.10 on to the device, then flashed the Radio ROM to version 1.47.30.10, deciding that this looked the safest bet based on the feedback of other people on the Forum. Having done this (last night) I decided to test the phone once per hour today by just calling it, and I only got to the second test before it failed again - showing signal and green light flashing - but calls going straight to voicemail.
So - I don't want to do any damage to the phone - but I need to know that when someone's calling me, it's going to ring (we're moving house soon, so I'm relying on certain calls from solicitors, bank etc etc). Can anyone tell me of a reliable Radio ROM version for an MDA Vario II on T-Mobile UK? (which won't introduce further problems!)
THANKS!!
broudie said:
Hi all, apologies for posting this, as there I know there's tons of other threads relating to this matter - I've spent quite some time reading (and being confused!) by them, but I can't seem to find a thread which a) has someone describing the exact problem I have, or b) giving a definitive solution. So here it is:
I have a UK MDA Vario II. It's my second one (replaced under warranty), this, and my first one both had a problem where I would seemingly randomly not receive calls or texts. The phone shows it has a signal, and the green light would be flashing to indicate service. However, on occasions, if you try to ring the phone, it diverts straight to voicemail. Sometimes service resumes normally (about an hour later) and I get a message informing me of my missed calls, and sometimes I have to do a soft reset to get it working again.
What I have gathered from reading on these forums is that I may need to upgrade my radio - it had version 1.05.02.00 on it (which it must have been shipped with).
So - following instructions, I put HardSPL 2.10 on to the device, then flashed the Radio ROM to version 1.47.30.10, deciding that this looked the safest bet based on the feedback of other people on the Forum. Having done this (last night) I decided to test the phone once per hour today by just calling it, and I only got to the second test before it failed again - showing signal and green light flashing - but calls going straight to voicemail.
So - I don't want to do any damage to the phone - but I need to know that when someone's calling me, it's going to ring (we're moving house soon, so I'm relying on certain calls from solicitors, bank etc etc). Can anyone tell me of a reliable Radio ROM version for an MDA Vario II on T-Mobile UK? (which won't introduce further problems!)
THANKS!!
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Ive never had any problems with calls not connecting, the only times it has failed is due to poor reception and ofcourse network busy errors.
I wouldnt worry about the radio version it sounds like a network issue. Have enabled 3G on it??
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Ive never had any problems with calls not connecting, the only times it has failed is due to poor reception and ofcourse network busy errors.
I wouldnt worry about the radio version it sounds like a network issue. Have enabled 3G on it??
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I have (and thanks btw - it was your guides that I followed attempting the flash last night). The thing is, a good friend of mine has the same phone, in the same area - and he doesn't get these issues. My other half is also on T-Mobile, but uses a Sony Ericsson and doesn't have any problems with coverage. I'm in a city centre right now, and my house isn't far out - we both have decent reception there.
In fact - an interesting thing just happened (literally..) - I have my phone on a charging cradle, and it had been dormant for a while, so the screen was off. It woke up, as if about to receive a call or text, but then nothing happened... so I called myself from my office phone - and it connected ok.
About 5 minutes later my girlfriend called me up on the mobile, and I mentioned the issue was still there - and she said 'yeah, i tried to call you about 5 minutes ago'.... so it's like the call was received (i.e. the phone new about it), but it didn't complete the process.
I had thought a new radio version might help (from my very limited understanding of such matters) - are you saying that's not the case?
Does 3G affect this too? What can I do - I use the internet more than anything else on my phone....
Thanks
does anyone have any further advice on this?
Mr Vanx? Anyone??
My phone is still randomly losing signal - generally not accepting incoming calls (though today it was not accepting calls, whilst I was still able to make them...). I think I may go and get it replaced by T-Mobile - but I have upgraded the radio to 1.47.30.10, and have put HardSPL 2.10 onto it.
I guess I need to downgrade to original versions, but I can't seem to find a guide which tells me if what I want to do is OK (and how...).
Please - can anyone assist - I believe my original radio rom was 1.05.05.00, and the SPL version was 1.01.
I'm using 1.54.30.10 and it's fine. I found 1.54.00.10 pretty good as well. Much fewer dropped calls comparing to any 1.4x RadioROMs. Signal strenght is also better. The only thing I cannot comment on is the battery life, as I charge the phone every night whether it's 90% or 10%.
mean-machine said:
I'm using 1.54.30.10 and it's fine. I found 1.54.00.10 pretty good as well. Much fewer dropped calls comparing to any 1.4x RadioROMs. Signal strenght is also better. The only thing I cannot comment on is the battery life, as I charge the phone every night whether it's 90% or 10%.
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did you have the same problems as me? - phone appearing to have a signal but calls being diverted to voicemail... seemingly randomly...
Use GSM mode as default
I have the exact same problem (I travel between Birmingham and London mainly) on my Vario II. It is really fustrating and my wife seems to think I dont answer her calls/txts on purpose(!)
On mine, the problem is due to the 3G mode - when I turn OFF 3G and use normal GSM the problem goes away. I get all calls/txt and internet connections sucessfully. When I turn on 3G the problem comes back - lost calls and unsucessfull internet connections. When in 3G mode sometimes it works somtimes it doesnt
Someone mentioned it could be that it is not switching between 3G and GSM automatically when no 3G is available. However, it happens even when in a good strong 3G area.
I swear this problem did not happen in the early part of my contract but only recently. One theory is that TMobile has sold so many 3G devices now both monthly and pay-as-you-go (esp 3G Data Modems with users using the network for their laptops) that the TMobile cells are just getting overloaded. Also, it could be that TMobile are also doing an upgrade of the 3G network and it is causing problems for users.
So what I do is run the phone in GSM mode as default (so no missed calls/txt and use Opera Mini for quick web surfing works well in GSM mode) Then switch on 3G mode if I am going to do any web surfing for more then 5 mins.
The added side benefit is also much much better battery life in GSM mode (3G soaks up the juice very quickly). I never use video calls ect so no loss there.
My Comm Manager has a toggle for 3G/GSM mode so I use that to quickly change between the 2 modes.
In Summary I would rather have a reliable phone for recieving/making calls then one which is hit and miss.
btw, Im now due an upgrade - wondering if I should stay with TMobile or not...
We appear to have the same phone 'lives'!
kismat1970 said:
I have the exact same problem (I travel between Birmingham and London mainly) on my Vario II. It is really fustrating and my wife seems to think I dont answer her calls/txts on purpose(!)
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Same here - we're in the middle of selling 2 properties and buying another one, so I could really do with not having the phone playing up.
kismat1970 said:
On mine, the problem is due to the 3G mode - when I turn OFF 3G and use normal GSM the problem goes away. I get all calls/txt and internet connections sucessfully. When I turn on 3G the problem comes back - lost calls and unsucessfull internet connections. When in 3G mode sometimes it works somtimes it doesnt
Someone mentioned it could be that it is not switching between 3G and GSM automatically when no 3G is available. However, it happens even when in a good strong 3G area.
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I've tried this today, and have been testing the phone on an hourly basis - so far so good.
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I swear this problem did not happen in the early part of my contract but only recently.
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Spot on - this definitely was not a problem when I signed up (Nov 06).
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So what I do is run the phone in GSM mode as default (so no missed calls/txt and use Opera Mini for quick web surfing works well in GSM mode) Then switch on 3G mode if I am going to do any web surfing for more then 5 mins.
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Do you know where I can get a reliable version of Opera Mini?
kismat1970 said:
My Comm Manager has a toggle for 3G/GSM mode so I use that to quickly change between the 2 modes.
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I dont have this option in mine? How can I get it??
kismat1970 said:
In Summary I would rather have a reliable phone for recieving/making calls then one which is hit and miss.
btw, Im now due an upgrade - wondering if I should stay with TMobile or not...
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Ditto - im due for upgrade in March, and had been looking at the Vario iii - but am now wondering if I should be looking at another network? Is this a consistent problem with all 3G devices on T-Mobile - or does it just affect the Vario ii?
broudie said:
Same here - we're in the middle of selling 2 properties and buying another one, so I could really do with not having the phone playing up.
I've tried this today, and have been testing the phone on an hourly basis - so far so good.
Spot on - this definitely was not a problem when I signed up (Nov 06).
Do you know where I can get a reliable version of Opera Mini?
I dont have this option in mine? How can I get it??
Ditto - im due for upgrade in March, and had been looking at the Vario iii - but am now wondering if I should be looking at another network? Is this a consistent problem with all 3G devices on T-Mobile - or does it just affect the Vario ii?
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I signed up in Sep 06 and there was no problem with 3G mode then (problem free for the first 12 months at least).
From your phone internet rowser goto http://mini.opera.com/ and click on Download Opera Mini (this is latest version 4).
Before you do this make sure you have Esmertec Jbed midlet manager installed (Opera Mini is a Java App).
I use Opera Mini 90% of the time and its still renders fast on a GSM connection.
Ive uploaded the CABs for you for the Midlet Manager and Comm Manager.
I dont know if it only affects the VarioII maybe others can comment. If its a network issue then I would expect it affecting other devices also.
I want to go for the HTC Touch Dual (aka MDA Touch Plus on TMobile) as my next phone but may go with Orange if it is a network issue. Only reason I stay with TMobile is for the 'unlimited' web'n walk tarrif..but if I can't use 3G realiably then what is the point?
kismat1970 said:
I signed up in Sep 06 and there was no problem with 3G mode then (problem free for the first 12 months at least).
From your phone internet rowser goto http://mini.opera.com/ and click on Download Opera Mini (this is latest version 4).
Before you do this make sure you have Esmertec Jbed midlet manager installed (Opera Mini is a Java App).
I use Opera Mini 90% of the time and its still renders fast on a GSM connection.
Ive uploaded the CABs for you for the Midlet Manager and Comm Manager.
I dont know if it only affects the VarioII maybe others can comment. If its a network issue then I would expect it affecting other devices also.
I want to go for the HTC Touch Dual (aka MDA Touch Plus on TMobile) as my next phone but may go with Orange if it is a network issue. Only reason I stay with TMobile is for the 'unlimited' web'n walk tarrif..but if I can't use 3G realiably then what is the point?
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Thanks very much for loading this stuff...
my other half is after the touch plus too - but have advised her to do some research before committing to T-Mob again.... though if she gets it and it's ok, i'll post some feedback on here...
Cheers
The Touch Plus is a good phone if you can live without Wifi...Ive read somewhere that this problem is dependant on the area you are in ...in particular the TMobile cell tower servicing the area you are in and it is possible to phone TMobile tech support to get an engineer to investigate and correct the problem. In my case that would be my home address and my work address - maybe worth a try?
Just to add my 2p worth... my radio is 1.05.05.00 (came on the phone, which was a replacement for the first which had the screen drift)... I've had occasional times when the phone's lit up but nothing's happened, but I usually chalk that down to the phone doing an activesync check for push mail, and as there's nothing there, it goes back to sleep.
To my knowledge, I've not really missed any calls or anything like that since way back last year - when sometimes I'd be sitting in the same café as a mate also on T-Mobile, and we'd do the you-call-me-i-call-you thing to get each others' numbers - and it'd go straight to voicemail! That was quite amusing.
Nobody's told me that they've had problems trying to reach me on my mobile though for a fair while now, so I'd almost completely forgotten about this problem!
edit: yay, 500th post! Took a while but got there eventually... Anybody want to sponsor me with a free Kaiser?
broudie said:
Can anyone tell me of a reliable Radio ROM version for an MDA Vario II on T-Mobile UK? (which won't introduce further problems!)
THANKS!!
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Hi, I confess I haven't read the thread in great deal (am in a rush and am just passing through!) but you could try this official T-Mobile UK ROM. It's Windows Mobile6 and Radio 1.50.xxx (as far as I remember). The main thing is that it's official, and includes their latest sanctioned bootloaders etc. I flashed it to mine before taking back for warranty (as it's not possible to go back to the old 1.05 radio from recent unauthorised versions).
T-Mobile UK WM6 complete MDA Vario II ROM:
http://member.htc.com/ruudownload/t-mobile/TMobileWM6Step1-TMuk.aspx
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:O when did that become available? I swore to myself I'd keep an eye on the TM phone downloads site because I knew WM6 was available for some devices, but I completely forgot and since then they've rolled out WM6 for my phone... Which is a proper pain, but at the same time a really nice surprise.
Hard reset your device, install ALL applications on the phone (nothing on the micro SD - except outlook attachments). This should solve the problem.
sahuja said:
Hard reset your device, install ALL applications on the phone (nothing on the micro SD - except outlook attachments). This should solve the problem.
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Why dig up this old thread and answer a question that has probably long since been resolved?
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Why dig up this old thread and answer a question that has probably long since been resolved?
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It's been useful for me. I'm having exactly the same experience on orange with an spv m3100 at the moment. This helps.
Dear,
My trinity (HERM300) test device have the same problem:
No CID, NO RADIo , NO GSM, NO IMEI
This info on my device (when having problems)
HERM300
IPL 1.04
SPL 2.10
plz plz plz any body help me for this ...........
john7992 said:
Dear,
My trinity (HERM300) test device have the same problem:
No CID, NO RADIo , NO GSM, NO IMEI
This info on my device (when having problems)
HERM300
IPL 1.04
SPL 2.10
plz plz plz any body help me for this ...........
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you should check and find its at http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=Hermes_ExtractedRadioRoms
Bit of a n00b here, so apologies if I've posted this in the wrong place.
For the last ten days or so, my Touch HD has been experiencing issues when placing outgoing or receiving incoming calls. Despite apparently showing full 'H' or '3G' signal strength, a number of incoming calls are dropped, seemingly at random, and redirected to voicemail without the handset receiving the call, and without the caller hearing any 'ringing' (i.e. straight to voicemail).
There is no consistent pattern to these occurrences; in a test of 20 consecutive calls placed 30 seconds apart, the first three were directed to voicemail without ringing, followed by two successful consecutive calls, followed by a further 15 voicemail redirects.
Issues exist when placing outgoing calls too; in a further test of 20 consecutive calls, all but the penultimate attempt failed to successfully place a call; 19 of the attempts resulted in the handset displaying a "dialling" message for around 40-60 seconds, before a 'beep beep beep' indicated that the attempt had failed.
While most of the time, these failures occur while the handset claims to have acquired full or near-full signal strength, there have also been a number of instances where the handset has ditched all cellular connections, and goes from full 'H' to no service whatsoever; the only way to work around this is to then turn the phone radio off and back on again via the communications settings menu.
This is a standard HTC Touch HD acquired off network, and running mostly vanilla programs; HD Tweak is installed, but the only settings changed have been cosmetic.
ROM: 1.56.405.1 (43972) WWE
Radio: 1.13.25.24
I've been a WinMo handset owner for ten years, and I'm used to tweaking and customising devices, and while I'm no expert by any means when it comes to ROMs and the more technical aspects of these handsets, I do know what not to touch to avoid buggering the handset right up.
Aside from scratches to the screen (caused by a chipped stylus!), it has never been damaged in any way (dropped, knocked, bumped, crunched or moistened), and certainly nothing has happened in the last two weeks that could have been responsible for this kind of tits-up.
I've done everything I can think of short of a full hard-reset.
So... should I be considering a hard-reset? Is this likely to be a software/settings glitch rather than a hardware problem?
I'd be hugely grateful for any suggestions that members can put forward - and I'd be even more thankful if you could use the simplest language possible for my tiny mind to comprehend.
Huge thanks in advance for any help that you can offer.
I had the exact same things happen to me (although not quite as frequent). It happened after I started experimenting with flashing cooked ROMs to my device and upgraded the radio version to 1.14.25.24 which is what I think caused the problems.
I recently installed the rilphone.dll to go with the radio version (the cab has been added to the beginning of the thread for Radio 1.14.25.24 in the ROM development forum) and this seems to have fixed my problems.
Something else that should not be ignored is the problem may simply be your network operator - I would suggest you repeat the test when in another geographic location as the problem could occur when there is a shortage of capacity between your network operator's switch site and the base station to which you are currently connected.
Try that first, and if you don't get anywhere, consider upgrading your radio version to 1.14.25.24 using USPL and installing the accompanying rilphone.dll from the cab file. There are some very comprehensive guides to flashing custom ROM images in the ROM Devlopment forum, and flashing a new radio version will not require a hard re-set or any loss of your personal data or installed applications, although there are always risks involved when flashing new software to your device, so make sure you are aware of the risks before you proceed.
Good luck!
Budadank, many thanks for your notes - I'll give your suggestions a go, and hopefully that'll resolve some of the issues, or at least shed some light on the problem. I'm relieved to hear that I'm not the only one that's had this problem, and glad to hear that you managed to get it sorted; there's hope for me yet...
Cheers!
Same problems here with stock firmware
I tried other firmwares and came back to original in order to avoid these
problems with no luck
I also had the problem that I hear the other person fine but he does not
hear me (about 50% of the calls) and eventually the call was dropped
My operator is considered good
My N95 is 200% better than my Touch HD in the matter of phone -signal quality
It seems to me that the phone always tries to switch betwen 3g and gsm
The only "solution" I could find was to disable gsm and use only 3G...
i had a completely different experience with my N95. the reception quality was much worse than that of my Touch HD, and it would always do exactly what you said your HD does: dropping calls, directing calls to voicemail, although signal was full, etc. My HD had this problem only once and then I realised it was the SIM. After I had it changed, no more problems. So you could try to change your SIM, too.
On O2?
I had a similar problem switching from Orange to O2 on my HD.
I found this thread on the O2 forum that may help.
http://forum.o2.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=23749
I did the sim bit in another phone to "provision" it and it seems to be staying connected better.
The reception is still poor but it doesn't seem to drop as much.
Not sure if your on the same operator but might be worth while trying?
I dumped my Orange contract after "the text" fiasco a few weeks ago and went with O2 simplicity but its pretty poor here, so I might end up back with Orange although without the 15 months of my contract remaining
Cheers
BimB
I put a new SIM 3 months ago.
The SIM does not seem to have any effect at the HD dropping calls
while in Auto mode.
In WCDMA mode the HD stays connected (if and when there is 3G signal)
In N95 with the same SIM I don't have any problems
it realy works
try this , it realy works
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4473103&postcount=165
I am in the same position, moved from Orange with their fiasco to O2.
My signal where I live was fine with ORange but shocking with O2.
I have put my sim in an old Nokia and the signal is fine and I can make calls.
I have spoken to CS and got the usual "your phone isnt supported" stories, and she tried to get settings but couldnt do it, but also said my sim was provisioned.
I have tried all the different radios, from 1.14, to 1.16 xperia, to 1.17 and no difference at all (well 1.17 made the phone unusuable for me).
Im pretty much fed up of it really, my HTC is a brick when im at home as its impossible to make calls with.