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Hi, I am quite happy with my Cingulare 8125, but I sometimes find myself in situations where I would rather not use the stylus, and then I wish there was a way to put the start menu and the OK button on one of the device's buttons. Also, if it is bright outside, dialing a number is a bit awkward. has anybody had the same problem and perhaps found a solution?
Yep, it's called Smartskey and it'll do exactly what you want. Do a search and you'll find all kinds of info about it.
Also look for FakeCursor. Works great!
markgamber said:
Yep, it's called Smartskey and it'll do exactly what you want. Do a search and you'll find all kinds of info about it.
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I second that.
I also use WM5NewMenu and PHM TrayLaunch. Both of these let you arrange the menu/shortcut order to suit your needs and are navigable with the Dpad. With these two and smartskey my wizard is one thumbed use rather than one handed. I have managed easily without a stylus.
Regarding the visibility in bright daylight, try changing your theme/skin to something with more contrast or increasing the backlight settings. Alternatively use MSVoiceCommand or the standard voice dialer for existing contacts, I haven't had much luck with MSVoiceCommand recognising number strings correctly for new phone numbers though.
Thanks to all.
I have downloaded the smartskey and I'll give that a try. It seems to do what I want.
Regarding the dialing: As this is a phone, I'd like to see a dedicated number pad on it, or a remapping of the existing softbuttons to numbers. For example the DPAD (might) have 9 positions (if the corners are recognized differently than left or up), which could be mapped to 1-9. Add 1 other softbutton for 0 and you have a complete dialpad. Perhaps in another release ...
Brilliant
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Regarding the dialing: As this is a phone, I'd like to see a dedicated number pad on it, or a remapping of the existing softbuttons to numbers. For example the DPAD (might) have 9 positions (if the corners are recognized differently than left or up), which could be mapped to 1-9. Add 1 other softbutton for 0 and you have a complete dialpad. Perhaps in another release ...
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Ok, I think this is my first post, for I am a professional lurker and all, but I swear I jumped out of my chair when I read this. This is perfect. Perfect, brilliant idea, would solve the single greatest drawback of this phone IMO. PLEASE tell me that there is a way to make this happen. I know, for example, that smartskey remaps the d-pad buttons to open up contacts, recent call list, etc. So I'm guessing a little tweaking somewhere could make this happen? If not smartskey, a new program perhaps? Here is my promise: someone comes up with this program, and I'll make little numbers stickers to go around the d-pad (yeah, laugh, but I'll do it!)
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I just wondering why there are so few application dedicated to calendar that are finger friendly, except for OTO i cannot find anything else
I really wish to control my cruise with just finger except when I have to do particulary task like setting and so on
I second that! OTO isn't going well for me either, can't really say why, but don't like it.
I pretty like OTO, but homepage is down and this version is like more to a plugin than a standalone calendar, actually u cannot see in OTO appointment or task but just create a new one, and imho is better than nothing, beside that I know at least 6 different finger friendly contact application some free some to buy, but neither 1 calendar finger friendly, I wonder if is so hard to program than contact one or if no1 like to use finger for everyday tasks
I use OTO a little but I mainly use VoCalendar. On first install looks like puke but has a very skinable interface and you can add / Edit appointments and in Moth view its easy finger friendly and desplays custom icons for you appointments...
Only thing lacking is load time really.
It would make a great platform idea for a new more modern application.
My 2 pence anyhow
I have been using it for nearly 4 years now! I will dig out a screen for you!
MM
VoCalendar Screenie.
Everything you see except the bottom grey bar is skinable!
Icons, Wallpaper, Headers etc!
MM
Thanks!!!
Seems pretty nice, but add a new event (specially time) is finger friendly?
If you press and hold it pops up a menu where you add an appointment.
You can pre-program types of appointments so times etc are already set. However if you want to edit them it just pops the normal windows mobile edit feature... pants part i guess.
But if you have pre programed stuff then it will auto display the right icon and set the right times.
This combined with OTO would be perfect but as we know its not a perfect world lol!
MM
Thanks again, it's not a perfect world but I still hope some1 soon or later wants to take the hard task to program a nice ff calendar, we have tons of contacts ff yet so I guess many of us will looking for it =)
Have you guys seen the new Pocket Informant v8? It has an option for "touch mode" and it allows native scrolling in most places without the need to have an htc touch or FTouchFlo.
Nope, do you use it? is it easy to set up or just blowtware? Can you add custom icons?
MM
Ok I have tried for about 1 hour, is a wonderfull agenda but far far (notice double far ) away from being finger friendly, what I mean for finger friendly is similar to Oto or that 1 for iPhone (check it here)
I would like to see a today plugin that features quick contacts (Kind of like the HTC home plugin).
The features I would like to see are:
* Today plugin
* Either use photo or set text for each contact.
* Opens contact in default contacts app, doesn't just dial (ie so you can choose to send an SMS)
* Vertical or horizontal list scrolled by gesture. Vertical or horizontal option would be nice, but vertical scroll probably more important - a lot of cube apps (eg ultimatelaunch) are controlled by horizontal gesture, if we could have this contacts app controlled with vertical gesture it would not interfere.
Please note that I mean a gesture controlled list WITHIN the today screen window, not as a seperate full screen app - plenty of things already do this.
* No add contact interface would be required, adding contacts to be included in dialer into a regular outlook category would be perfectly acceptable. Showing photo if contact has one or name if not would also be perfectly acceptable rather than an interface to select that.
V2R Photo Dialer 2 is almost exactly what I want but is controlled by horizontal gesture only. I tried to contact V2R to request this change but I received no response.
[Edit: Thinking about it, it doesn't need to be a favorites dialler, it could just have tickboxes for each category - if you want to use it as a favorite contacts launcher, just set it to the "favorites" category only, or you could leave all categories on to show the whole contacts list]
I'm using Face Contact which has all you've asking for, except horizontal but if you use Ultimate Launch then you can exclude the plugin from the gestures of Ultimate Launch.
http://www.cnetx.com/products/contact/
Nice app - I prefer it to the V2R one. I have emailed the author asking for the option of vertical gesture to scroll the list. I don't care if the list spins horizontally as it is, as long as I can spin it with a vertical gesture so it don't interfere with ultimatelaunch.
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I would like to see a today plugin that features quick contacts (Kind of like the HTC home plugin).
The features I would like to see are:
* Today plugin
* Either use photo or set text for each contact.
* Opens contact in default contacts app, doesn't just dial (ie so you can choose to send an SMS)
* Vertical or horizontal list scrolled by gesture. Vertical or horizontal option would be nice, but vertical scroll probably more important - a lot of cube apps (eg ultimatelaunch) are controlled by horizontal gesture, if we could have this contacts app controlled with vertical gesture it would not interfere.
Please note that I mean a gesture controlled list WITHIN the today screen window, not as a seperate full screen app - plenty of things already do this.
* No add contact interface would be required, adding contacts to be included in dialer into a regular outlook category would be perfectly acceptable. Showing photo if contact has one or name if not would also be perfectly acceptable rather than an interface to select that.
V2R Photo Dialer 2 is almost exactly what I want but is controlled by horizontal gesture only. I tried to contact V2R to request this change but I received no response.
[Edit: Thinking about it, it doesn't need to be a favorites dialler, it could just have tickboxes for each category - if you want to use it as a favorite contacts launcher, just set it to the "favorites" category only, or you could leave all categories on to show the whole contacts list]
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You can do horizontal scrolling photodial with my app, throttlelauncher.... It's free, so if you want to, try it . You can install it from http://www.throttlelauncher.com. After making the full instalation (use the exe setup or install both cabs) here you have a little setup cab for a theme showing only a contact row (if you're interested, you can have much more showing app's and other stuff in multiple pages). So to sum up:
- Go to http://www.throttlelauncher.com/
- Ensure you install everything on the same media (SD or device)
- Install both cab or use the desktop instalation in full mode.
- Install the cab attached to this thread.
- Enable throttletoday today plugin (it might take a little bit to load)
- Add as much contacts as you wish to the row .
Feel free to post any comments, requests or constructive critics . You can customize an xml to make the photos biger, order them in multiple rows, remove the ad delete icons, etc. Hope it matches what you're looking for....
Thanks for that, but the ThrottleLaunch PhotoDialer only allows scrolling of contacts via a horizontal gesture. I need to control it with a *vertical* (up/down) gesture. Also, ThrottleToday will not show inside ultimatelaunch - it will show if I put it on the main Today screen, but trying to add it as a today plugin in ultimatelaunch does nothing.
I did get an encouraging response from the makers of Face Contact yesterday though:
Hello,
thanks for your feedback.
At first thought, the idea of using a vertical gesture and having the list scroll horizontally appears a little bit disturbing, but we think we understand the rationale behind your suggestion.
We will indeed play around with UltimateLaunch to see if you can find out an option that is both intuitive and that allows Face Contact to be usable within their interface.
As it is now a possible solution is to exclude our plugin from being affected by Ultimate Launch gestures, so that when our plugin is active (and only in this circumstance) the left-right gestures will actually scroll the contact list instead than spinning the cube. Then, as soon as you apply the left/right gestures outside of our plugin, the cube will take control.
When developing Face Contact we left the door open to the possibility of having a vertical layout of the contact list, though, of course, this doesn't fit well with the current Today screen organization, which assumes all plugins are placed horizontally. In other words, it wouldn't be that difficult for us to layout the whole list vertically instead than horizontally,
So, we will definitely keep your comment in mind, as it is possible that within a different context (such as Ultimate Launch), we could actually provide both a vertical layout and vertical gesture, which would indeed make quite a lot of sense.
At this stage, having just released Face Contact a couple of days ago, we are currently gathering feedback to see how to move on with further releases and updates.
So, your feedback is very welcome: thanks again.
Best regards,
The CNetX Support Team
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I downloaded Face Contact last night, and so far I am liking it. The reason I went with Face over VR2 is the space issue. VR2 looked to take a lot of space up in the Today screen, and being on a 240x240, space is a big issue. Face seemed to take a minimum of memory and leave room on my screen. I have it in a Shell tab with the native Palm picture dialer. The only option I could think of adding is the ability to dial automatically when the picture is pressed. I know that can lead to a lot of mis-dialings, but maybe a setting like normal usage until the pic is pressed for a second or so, and then the chosen primary number is dialed. If that makes sense great, if not, please let me know and I will try to explain better!!
Here is a screen shot of where I have Face on my Today screen:
im using face contact. it does everything you are asking for. im also using ultimatelaunch, the two make beautiful music together. especially if you choose the "disable gesture" feature when you enable it in ul. ive played with this quite a bit, and it is very intuitive how smooth everything STILL works. especially for these to be a first version for both apps. experiment with it. the result is perfect
Lots of nice feedback here: thanks guys.
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The only option I could think of adding is the ability to dial automatically when the picture is pressed. I know that can lead to a lot of mis-dialings, but maybe a setting like normal usage until the pic is pressed for a second or so, and then the chosen primary number is dialed. If that makes sense great, if not, please let me know and I will try to explain better!!
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I'm not sure if this is referred to Face Contact, or to other software you are using. If you are actually talking about FC, then please note that you can easily reassign the TAP and TAP & HOLD actions to trigger different commands, including CALLING the selected contact. Just check the "Action Settings" screen and you'll find the options there.
Also note that when Face Contact is the active plugin you should be able to CALL the selected contact by simply pressing the START CALL key of your phone. This is usually easier and less error-prone than having to tap or tap and hold. And, if you call by using the START CALL key, you can use the tap and tap&hold actions for other things, such as displaying the shortcut menu, or accessing the Face Contact Manager.
PS: we have included quite an extensive help file, with lots of tips and tricks and information on things like this. Maybe you may want to give it a quick look.
I guess I missed the tap+hold part, that is exactly what I was getting at!!! I guess this app has just about it all for me then, I will keep testing like crazy, but so far I am very pleased with it!!!
i'm using throttle now, but the pics look like garbage. I'm seriously OCD about the dumbest stuff, so I'm still looking for an answer. I just want face contact to have a transparent background, and I'd buy it.
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I just want face contact to have a transparent background, and I'd buy it.
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Hey Shed, please have a look at my post concerning the plugin background in the Face Contact thread here...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=378145&page=7
evilc said:
Thanks for that, but the ThrottleLaunch PhotoDialer only allows scrolling of contacts via a horizontal gesture. I need to control it with a *vertical* (up/down) gesture. Also, ThrottleToday will not show inside ultimatelaunch - it will show if I put it on the main Today screen, but trying to add it as a today plugin in ultimatelaunch does nothing.
I did get an encouraging response from the makers of Face Contact yesterday though:
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Hi evilc!
Sorry for the delay on the answer. Vertical scroll on throttlelauncher is planned for a further release (probably 1.0), it's still alpha so many things are missing but I thought It will mach what you where looking for... Any way, I've install UL and find out why the plugin is not showing... seem's that UL doesn't work exactly like the today screen when hosting today plugins (probably to save some memory) so the today plugin exe is not launching. To sum up, to make throttletoday plugin show inside UL the only thing needed is running manually the ThrottleTodayPlugin.exe located on the throttlelauncher instalation path. At least that worked for me. Also as you've said the horizontal scrolling will interfer with the tab change gesture so disabling os setting a time out it is needed by now....
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i'm using throttle now, but the pics look like garbage. I'm seriously OCD about the dumbest stuff, so I'm still looking for an answer. I just want face contact to have a transparent background, and I'd buy it.
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Hi shed!
If contact photos don't look good you can try playing with the config.xml file to change the contact photo width an height values (I recommend to keep the 3/4 ratio if you use standar photo dial photos). The config.xml file will be inside the PhotoDialer1Row (or 2Row if you use this one) on your setups folder on your throttlelauncher instalation path. All you need to do is search for the allcontactswithphoto tag and play with it's height and width attribute.
Gabibbo:
I saw your post and had already replied. I'm just waiting for the version to show up.
APBilbo:
I have thinkered with that setting, the problem is in just how throttle scales the images. I don't recall the terms, but the scaled images are distorted.
@evilc .... I too use face contacts in a UL panel. When you use the disable gesture feature, It only disables the gestures from being passed to UL in the active plugin area. You can still spin the cube via gesture in an inactive area of the panel. Or if combined with something else, an area that does not otherwise respond to a gesture. Try it out.... In my case I have found that though it is a great idea, the vertical gesturing is not necessary for a fully functional solution.
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APBilbo:
I have thinkered with that setting, the problem is in just how throttle scales the images. I don't recall the terms, but the scaled images are distorted.
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Ok, thanks for the info... I'll take a look at that... It's NET.CF the one scaling the images.... probably there's a smother method to get it...
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@evilc .... I too use face contacts in a UL panel. When you use the disable gesture feature, It only disables the gestures from being passed to UL in the active plugin area. You can still spin the cube via gesture in an inactive area of the panel. Or if combined with something else, an area that does not otherwise respond to a gesture. Try it out.... In my case I have found that though it is a great idea, the vertical gesturing is not necessary for a fully functional solution.
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Yeah, I realised that a while ago, it is OK if you have something else in the UL tab without gestures disabled, so that you can gesture left in that area to spin the cube.
I think overall, the interface I would like would be gesture left/right between the faces, then up/down to scroll info on each face. I think for this interface, a vertical list would be more suitable than horizontal scrolling icons, it would just work better visually.
I really like the music browser in conduits pocket player - I would kill for one of those in a UL face along with a contacts list done in a similar manner on another face, thumbcal (with scroll month by vertical gesture) on another face... That would be nirvana for me.
First time posting, so let me thank everyone on this forum first. You guys do an amazing job of helping the world hack these devices.
I'm looking for a way to integrate the MS2 and HTC cube built in to my CDMA Touch. I love the TouchFlo functionality and I even like the Cube.
I'm looking for suggestions as to the best approach for combining these two tools. My initial thought was for the MS2 contacts tab to launch the contacts side of the Cube. I could probably teach myself how to properly edit the XMLs to achieve this. However, this would eliminate the 16-contact MS2 tab in favor of a 9-contact HTC page.
I then considered that both the HTC and SPB apps are really 2d. The Cube and MS2 allow for side to side motion, but the up/down gestures aren't consistent. I would like to try and make it so that sweeping up always brings up the cube (it already does that), and sweeping down always launches MS2 (I know about the MS2 gesture, but I want to launch a tab, not the three-tab selection).
My current thinking is to try and recreate the HTC animations for flipping tabs in MS2. I would like to avoid having to uninstall the HTC Cube only to replace it with FTouch or something. Also, this doesn't solve my issue with the downward sweep launching an actual MS2 tab, not the chooser.
Any suggestions?
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I'm looking for an easy way to make the background from S2U, MS2, and the HTC Cube to match. I'd like the illusion of a single interface, right down to the dialpad, contacts (I know about PCM) and keyboard (also PCM).
I know separate skins for these bad boys exist, but there isn't a single one that applies the same visual style to all these components.
Any artists out there?
Hi, did anyone know how i can take my contacts on my Todayscreen? Like IContacts, just for the todayscreen Thx
body85 said:
Hi, did anyone know how i can take my contacts on my Todayscreen? Like IContacts, just for the todayscreen Thx
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All your Contacts? Or just some of them (e.g., Quickdial)?
If you just want key contacts for quick access, there is a cool product called Face Contact by CNetx that might work. If you want ALL contacts, I have not seen one....
Yeah, I have been thinking about this too, would be great if iContact could be made into a Today Plugin. I will pose this question in the icontact thread.
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Hi, did anyone know how i can take my contacts on my Todayscreen? Like IContacts, just for the todayscreen Thx
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Try SPB Phone Sweet. I know you have to pay for it but there are plenty of places were you will be able to find it below one penny if you get my drift, I just cannot post them on the site. SPB Phone Sweet will allow you to post picture contacts, up to 15 I believe on the Today Screen. Really good function program which I used in conjuction with SPB Pocket Plus but have since then moved to SPB Phone Suite. Good luck.
first... thx for the answer´s and sry about my English
So i really looked for a today plugin who show ALL CONTACTS, like icontact i have now Facecontacts, thats great but i can only show a few contacts or all with many work... spb.... hm i have ultimate launch if i use spb too my kaiser will be slow i think.... so lets search another one
I wrote it in BURT thread...
I got UL too and in combination with spb phone suite there is no problem. My HTC touch is slower
ok but i think this have to look so:
Even I am looking for such thing from quite a while now.. but without luck.. I am trying to search or develop something which can integrate programs like Icontact/PCM image viewer to today screen.. Something like we can see in HTC Diamond but with less memory usage.. There are prgs like Throttle Launcher which does this, but heavy on memory.. consumes like more than 10 MB.. Anyone has any idea on how can we achieve this..
try this
you can use face contacts, its the best looking contact plugin available. and it scrolls like s2p cover flow (but smoother)
if u read u will see.... i use this.... but its not so good i think
As I've mentioned in Icontact thread
use one of your softkeys to invoke Icontact, or use Mortbuttons - you can assign one in today screen with Icontact and other phone app inside
Again Pisca, how does this establish a today plugin
1. not only icontact, any software what can do this, but in the today screen.
2. if u can look on my today screen? NO SoFTKEyS
I have set Spb Diary to show photo contacts on the Today Screen and it works out great...
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Again Pisca, how does this establish a today plugin
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See post in Icontact thread
You can also use DialTab.
Everything listed here are the best options. Trying to fit all of iContact as a plugin on your today screen eliminates the app itself. Doesn't make much sense to me.
Perhaps "Ineosoft Adressbook". You have a bar on the todayscreen, like the HTC Random Access and then the adress is popup. Have a look on it.
Or we can make a shortcut to HTC Random Access for the today screen.
i am currently playing around with my own made C# picture dialer that is displayed as a today item (very early beta i might add ). it enables a user to see pre defined photo contacts (which is of course nothing new).
as with most photo dialers, a long (2 second) press on the photo dials the number that belongs to the contact. (it also has an option to assign two numbers to one photo contact, which i find very usefull, eg the first number is dialed when you press the photo for two seconds, the second number is dialed when you press the photo for four seconds.)
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Perhaps "Ineosoft Adressbook". You have a bar on the todayscreen, like the HTC Random Access and then the adress is popup. Have a look on it.
Or we can make a shortcut to HTC Random Access for the today screen.
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The same thats all the other said... i click on a button and i get my contacts.... ok thats work with allllll software, icontacts also....
i show my idea again ok....