Hi All
One of the main problems I face in IT is having multiple exchange server mail accounts on Windows Mobile. However today I have finally solved the problem using my Shift... here's how.
The problem stems from the simple fact that you must only have ONE ACTIVESYNC partnership, and use IMAP4 for all other Exchange accounts.
PROBLEM
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Using IMAP4 is problematic. The protocol is not fully implemented and followed by IMAP on Exchange 2000 or Exchange 2003. Exchange 2007 finally follows the IMAP4 standard and thus allows it's use here.
The additional problem with IMAP4 (and this affects most WM5 and WM6 devices and the iPhone), is to do with deleting emails on your remote device.
Emails that are deleted either....
a. Remain in your mailbox so when you connect say at work or home using a full Outlook client the mails still appear,
b. they remain but also are 'deleted' in your Deleted Items.
This forces you into a manual DOUBLE DELETE and is a real pain to do every time every day.
The problem is with how mobile devices use the EXPUNGE command under the IMAP protocol. EXPUNGE must be issued to FORCE Exchange to remove the deleted items. It now appears that the Shift correctly follows the use of EXPUNGE and in conjunction with Exchange Server 2007 this now works like a dream.
Therefore....
EXCHANGE SERVER1 - USE ACTIVESYNC
EXCHANGE SERVER2 - USE IMAP4
EXCHANGE SERVER3 - USE IMAP4
etc for all other exchange mail accounts.
The servers you use IMAP4 on MUST BE EXCHANGE 2007....
Here is a link to enabling IMAP4 on Exchange 2007 as by default it is disabled.
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb124489.aspx
I have upgraded one of my exchange servers to Exchange 2007 and now do the following;
EXCHANGE SERVER 2003 mail account - ACTIVESYNC
EXCHANGE SERVER 2007 mail account - IMAP4
This now correctly works, allows me access to both my mail accounts and the Shift properly issues EXPUNGE and my IMAP4 mailbox is updated correctly for when I then use my full Outlook client.
Hope this helps everyone, as this has been my biggest headache using Windows Mobile and multiple mail accounts in the Corporate World....
Regards
Blitzspear
But this isn't a real solution as I still can't sync 2 calendars/list of contacts and IMAP doens't support push-mail as far as I know...
Yes, what about contacts and calendars? How do you handle those?
Related
With activesync it seems to have an option box to sync to the server or from the server. Is it possible to do both ways? Or get something that will change the direction...i.e if the xda is in the cradle it syncs from the server if not it will sync to the server?
Any comments or ideas welcome
thanks
Simon
For exchange server, it sync both ways. If you got update from ur PDA it will update ur exchange server, and if ur exchange server is more updated it will update ur pda.
The settings are for those cases where the same contact has changed on both server and pda since last sync.
Øystein
@simonCpage
you cannot sync with your outlook and with an exchange server at the same time. Although active sync proxies the server sync through the cradle/activesync to the server. This way you can connect with the same profile on the road via GPRS as you can on your desk.
The exchange server sync only applies to contacts, agenda and email. the rest can only be synced through activesync.
marco
codex666 said:
@simonCpage
you cannot sync with your outlook and with an exchange server at the same time. Although active sync proxies the server sync through the cradle/activesync to the server. This way you can connect with the same profile on the road via GPRS as you can on your desk.
The exchange server sync only applies to contacts, agenda and email. the rest can only be synced through activesync.
marco
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Soon with Exchange Server service pack 3, Tasks will be included too.
For now, and for syncing multiple folders, (including Public Folders), http://www.odysseyinc.com/Software/On-Schedule/FRAMESET_Remote_ROSSync_index.htm
Outlook is officialy not supportet at mail2web live i think, but is there a way to use your desktop outlook with the free service?
currently i sync my Wizard with my Outlook and the Exchange Service, so i have all things synced between outlook and exchange indirectly, but a direct sync would be better.
Yeah, I've tried messing about with Outlook to get it to connect to the exchange server, but no luck so far. If anybody knows a way, then please post it here!
I think the only way to "hack" the service for desktop outlook would be a OMA Plugin for outlook, to sync with the Server ActiveSync.
lutzs said:
I think the only way to "hack" the service for desktop outlook would be a OMA Plugin for outlook, to sync with the Server ActiveSync.
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Could you post any more info about this?
Ye please! would be very interrested in a solution
If you think it have such a tool you misunderstood.
There are only 2 open doors to mail2web: OWA (Outlook Web Access) and OMA (Outlook Mobile Access). We can forget OWA. OMA is for syncing PocketPCs (ActiveSync Server). So we need a plugin or tool for the desktop outlook, that make it syncing over OMA!
Is there any development in this area. I was looking to sync my web2mail with my Desktop outlook.? Is it possible at all?
Cheers
I am presently using mail2web live very successfully.
I have my comcast email forwarded to the mail2web email address and leave the messages on my comcast server to download later to outlook.
I put the mail2web server source settings into Active Sync. It somehow syncs these server settings to the pda and with my unlimited monthly cingular data plan, I get ALL of my email OTA downloaded to my PDAphone immediately as it arrives to comcast.
Works great.
Yeah, that is possible. I am getting my gmail OTA, which I have forwarded to mail2web. My question was about syncing mail2web with desktop outlook, not mobile outlook. The idea is, then I dont have to sync with PC using USB cable at all. I sync with mail2web OTA, and when I log on to outlook on my PC it will sync with mail2web. So, I dont need a physical connection between PC and handheld. :lol:
This works if you pay $1.99 to mail2web.
However I too would like a free version.
Is it $1.99 per month..?
Yes
http://services.mail2web.com/Personal/EnhancedEmail/
or something I am in the process of trying
getting ADSL with a static IP address / web address and using the OWA MS 2003 server settings, setting my PC as a server, so I can use the MSFP to directly sync in with my home PC ( I think you need XP Pro to do this though, not XP Home).
This will also allow me to VPN in and take anything from home out and about.
I should also be able to do this to e.g. play my music files from my PC on my device. Will let you know how this works.
Unfortunately I am not a software developer, but if any of you need an idea; do what I just said in a one off program that runs on any PC and cradled device - syncs 'em together via GPRS / wi-fi that would be nice.
Just to let you guys know that mail2web now offer a FREE MS Exchange based e-mail account called 'mail2web Live'. As standard you can use it with ActiveSync (...and direct push if you're using WM5).
You also get access to the usual Outlook Web Access (OWA) and Outlook Mobile Access (OMA).
I've been playing around with it for the last few days and I'm well impressed - so much so that I've upgraded to their 'personal exchange' plan - to my mind a bargain for a meagre $1.99 a month. This gets rid of the banner and google ads that do take up the best part of 1/2 of the screen in the free version as well as giving you a gig of space and a few other goodies.
Cheers,
Rik
Here's the cheap way of getting picking up emails on outlook and using direct push
Sign up for 2 email accounts, one mail2web account and another email account that uses pop3(or use an existing one).
Set up email forwarding from the pop3 account to mail2web.
Set up your outlook account to leave email on the server.
This way you get the best of both worlds.
Then set activesync to sync to both outlook and mail2web and get the emails from mail2web so thats it uses direct push.
One other thing you could do is to use an advert blocker (like adblock in firefox) this gets rid of the adverts as well.
hope that helps save some cash
thanks
wayne
Here's the cheap way of getting picking up emails on outlook and using direct push
Sign up for 2 email accounts, one mail2web account and another email account that uses pop3(or use an existing one).
Set up email forwarding from the pop3 account to mail2web.
Set up your outlook account to leave email on the server.
This way you get the best of both worlds.
Then set activesync to sync to both outlook and mail2web and get the emails from mail2web so thats it uses direct push.
One other thing you could do is to use an advert blocker (like adblock in firefox) this gets rid of the adverts as well.
hope that helps save some cash
thanks
wayne
As hedgehog1982 suggestes this is a pretty good option, especially if you have an e-mail address on your own domain. This does have a couple of drawbacks though...
(i)
When you send (or reply to) an e-mail it will come from the mail2web account and not your POP account. You can get around this by setting up both accounts on your XDA (i.e. ActiveSync for your mail2web account and SMTP to send from your own e-mail address) - however, you'll have to remember to send from the SMTP when you send and don't hit reply.
(ii)
You'll effectively get two coppies of your e-mails (one to mail2web on your XDA and one to your POP inbox) - so if you want to delete an e-mail for example you'll have to do it on both. The beauty of the ActiveSync setup is that both server and XDA sync, so if you delete/move/organise your e-mails/calendar/contacts/tasks on either, the other also updates.
There are companies out there that will give you a single (or more) Exchange account(s) on your own domain but this will cost you more - most start from about a fiver a month.
Any way to sync mail2web with Desktop outlook yet?
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When you send (or reply to) an e-mail it will come from the mail2web account and not your POP account. You can get around this by setting up both accounts on your XDA (i.e. ActiveSync for your mail2web account and SMTP to send from your own e-mail address) - however, you'll have to remember to send from the SMTP when you send and don't hit reply.
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Guys how do you set in your PPC "both accounts to send from your own email-address" ? My target is to get mails pushed from my corporate exchange server and to be able to reply also using my corporates email address. But our company doesn't allow any remote access to exchange (except VPN with my notebook and OWA).
The only workaround I found is to have redirect emails from exchange server to f.e. gmail, in gmail you can set an alternative email address you can send from (it will fake my [email protected] and send it "on behalf of xx"). This way I can receive and send my emails from my PDA and it looks quite well. But - with gmail I only can pull and not push.
So using mail2web.com I could push and reading your instruction how to set that SMTP in my PDA, it should also work to reply with my corporates address, but there is no possibility to set this you described...how did you do that?
I think what he means is to setup your exchange account as POP3/IMAP, but never use it to receive, only use it to send.
Example:
1. You have ActiveSync setup with mail2web (push), and you setup gmail to forward to this account based on filtering or direct forward.
2. You setup another account with the same details as your exchange server. Have this account setup so that it never downloads. Depending on your setup, you would need to setup either POP3 or IMAP. I would suggest IMAP.
3. When you want to reply to a message, don't hit reply from your 'Outlook Messages' (that's your push email). You would compose a message and use your corporate email servers outgoing SMTP to send it.
However, since you mentioned that exchange is closed except via VPN, it makes me think that they have also closed all other ports.
It might be possible for you to install a VPN client on your device and sync that way?
I have upgraded to WM6 and its working like a dream. One of the features that attracted me was the html mail. Ive read all the threads however cant find any official confirmation that Exchange 2007 is a requirement to receive and display HTML mail on Pocket Outlook. My exchange Administrator/Host is insisting that its the client that displays and renders the HTML the server just sends through the code! Can anyone point me in the direction of a definitive statement that confirms this?
WM6 will display HTML email for POP/IMAP and/or Exchange 2007. It will not display HTML for Exchange 2003. This is how 2003 sends the email to the device and yes it is the ex 2003 limitation. Exchange 2007 does work well and it is a big plus. But exchange 2007 is designed to run on Windows 64 bit server vs 32 bit. So just upgrading to 2007 is not that easy for some. You can (if your company security allows) set up to receive IMAP mail from your exchange server.
There was some talk on MS technet and MS MSDN forums about a hotfix to allow 2003 to send HTML to WM6 devices, but seems MS would rather spend time on getting us to switch to Vista, Office 2007 and Exchange 2007.
I have both a production Exchange 2003 server and a test Exchange 2007 server. So far, Exchange 2007 performs great, although moving our existing 32-bit Exchange 2003 installation will be costly (new 64-bit hardware, new OS, new Exchange, new CALs, etc, etc.). But from a Windows Mobile 6 perspective, there are some interesting features Exchange 2007 enables in Outlook Mobile beyond just HTML email. One of the cooler is the "search server" feature which will search all of the email on your server, not just the last 3 days or so you may have downloaded to your device.
Also, I am connected via IMAP over SSL to my Exchange 2003 server and HTML email comes through just as expected.
--Andrew
I have my exchange server set up to retrieve the headers from the last day Via Push and then my Imap checking every 30 minutes, that way I still get notification of new emails. you may wish to try this.
ahintz said:
Also, I am connected via IMAP over SSL to my Exchange 2003 server and HTML email comes through just as expected.
--Andrew
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Can some explain this... are you saying that even with Exchange 2003, its possible to have HTML push email? if so, how???
Since I've had this phone I've failed to sync with the Sync Centre. It just results in errors every time.
However, because I will be syncing everything that will be on my exchange server, how can I set up this exchange server on the X1? I don't mean the email address only, I need it to connect to my exchange calender, contacts, mail - everything.
I sync to my exchange server via mail2web with no problems - keep in mind if you are syncing to a pc as well you need to select only one location for calendar & contacts.
Isn't it possible to put in the exchange server details directly into teh phone without using 3rd party software?
Is it true that vodafone have removed the exchange feature from their handset?
I'm getting this error.. 0x85010014
Jammy2 said:
Isn't it possible to put in the exchange server details directly into teh phone without using 3rd party software?
Is it true that vodafone have removed the exchange feature from their handset?
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you don't need 3rd party to set up exchange activesync, it's out of the box.
Jammy2 said:
I'm getting this error.. 0x85010014
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this is relating to the SSL. Either you have setup an activesync w/o SSL connection, or your PDA clock might be wrong that makes the SSL certificate invalid.
That's assuming your exchange server side is okay.
I've just discovered that everything part from mail will sync if I don't specify my exchange in Vista. When I do that's where the errors show up.
As for exchange on the phone, I will get "network waiting" when I disable SSL. This actually appears to be an issue with many WM devices. What do you mean when you say my clock might be wrong?
The simple Version:
Authentication inside of Active Directory runs over "Tickets" for every User. If the clocks between 2 Ressources are too tifferent, the Ticket becomes invalid, cause the time is an important component of the encryption.
The savest way is to let the phone sync its clock with the exchange server - after Active Sync configuration
For doing this you only need working SSL-encrypted "Outlook Web Access" and your Exchange account have to be "Active Sync"-enabled (an admin has to do this).
Windows Mobile shows you all information yout need to set Active Sync up.
Ah, so the exchange server needs to be active sync enabled?
At the moment I am syncing everything from outlook on my pc, not directly to the server as the device was designed to do
Mine works with my Exchange 2007 server without a problem, out of the box. I just entered my server address, my domain username and password.
Are you sure the server is set up correctly. The exchange server has to have OMA (Outlook Mobile Access) set up. Are there any other devices syncing with the server correctly? Is port 443 open?
Something to note I had to install the security certificate of the server on my phone before it could sync.
I use mine with an Exchange 2007 too. After installing the server
all the necessary features are turned on automatically:
- OWA (Outlook Web Access - website)
- OMA
- Active Sync user role for every account
The OWA-website has to be accessible for public. And the server certificate (for SSL) has to be installed if it is selfsigned
(it is if your browser shows a certificate warning on computers
outside of the company network). Copy it from the browser to
your phone and (double)click it for install. Alternativly ask your network administrator for help.
If the cert is bought from an official worldwide trusted cert
seller like thawte or verizon this should not be neccessary.
Push Service from my Email Server to Galaxy Tab (or other Phones which supports Exchange)
is so great!!
Every change of my Outlook Contacts, Calendars, Mails will automatically pushed to my Tab
over GSM or WiFi, without connecting the Tab to a computer with Kies or other Sync Software.
All you need is a
1. Linux Server i.e. Unbuntu 10.04
(Apache,MySQL,PHP5,postfix installed and working)
2. Zarafa collaboration Server (Exchange like Mailserver)
(Provides POP3, SPOP3, IMAP, SIMAP
100% MAPI stable Outlook Sharing
Outlook "Look & Feel" webaccess)
3. Z_Push
And the best... it's all free.
Seems like a rather convoluted way to achieve something that can easily be done just by having a Gmail account!
Regards,
Dave
As it was said, you can have the same much easly by configuring your own domain under google.
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Having a gmail account isn't a solution for lots of peeps with corporate exchange based email systems. Especially for those that only allow active sync access with no pop or imap.
There are several direct email clients supporting active sync, including the 'built in' android email clients. For example,Touchdown works quite well.
Another proxied-like solution that is a bit simpler than the above is DAVmail http://davmail.sourceforge.net/ This does require OWA on the exchange server, but owa being 'on' seems more common than exchange servers with pop or imap support. DAVmail can get rid of one intermediate 'hop' in the above solution.
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fwelland said:
Having a gmail account isn't a solution for lots of peeps with corporate exchange based email systems. Especially for those that only allow active sync access with no pop or imap.
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Yes, we know that - we're commenting on setting up your own pseudo-exchange server setup just to gain push email!
Regards,
Dave