Titan - voicemail notification hook - possible? - Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General

Hey all,
Let me preface this by saying that, while I have some background in development, I'm not overly familiar with the .NET side of things or WM programming in general. I'm hoping someone out there with experience on the subject might be able to identify whether or not the below is feasible.
My problem: Sprint doesn't supply an accurate unread voicemail count so, whenever I have any unread voicemail, my phone (Mogul) only shows "Voicemail: 1 Unread" regardless of how many I actually have.
My proposal: Would it be possible to somehow hook into the Voicemail Notification API that Windows Mobile uses, and basically just keep a running counter of "New Voicemail" notifications sent? That is:
Each time WM sends the phone a "New Voicemail" notification, the counter increases by 1 (this number could be displayed on a Today-screen plugin, or similar)
The user would have the option to call and check their voicemail from a button on the plugin (which would then reset the faux unread voicemail counter to 0)
The user would have the option to manually reset the count to 0 (e.g. if they knew they'd already checked the message via different means, etc)
Obviously this isn't a perfect solution, and is really more of a "how many voicemails have I received since I last cleared the counter"-type app, but I know it's something I'd love to have.
I started looking for WM5 or WM6 API documentation, but even the MSDN library seemed somewhat bare.... the closest I came was some documentation regarding the "State and Notifications Broker", though I don't think that would be of any use (as the reg keys associated with unread voicemail only seem to change upon receipt of the first unread voicemail).
Any thoughts?

auto_exec said:
Hey all,
Let me preface this by saying that, while I have some background in development, I'm not overly familiar with the .NET side of things or WM programming in general. I'm hoping someone out there with experience on the subject might be able to identify whether or not the below is feasible.
My problem: Sprint doesn't supply an accurate unread voicemail count so, whenever I have any unread voicemail, my phone (Mogul) only shows "Voicemail: 1 Unread" regardless of how many I actually have.
My proposal: Would it be possible to somehow hook into the Voicemail Notification API that Windows Mobile uses, and basically just keep a running counter of "New Voicemail" notifications sent? That is:
Each time WM sends the phone a "New Voicemail" notification, the counter increases by 1 (this number could be displayed on a Today-screen plugin, or similar)
The user would have the option to call and check their voicemail from a button on the plugin (which would then reset the faux unread voicemail counter to 0)
The user would have the option to manually reset the count to 0 (e.g. if they knew they'd already checked the message via different means, etc)
Obviously this isn't a perfect solution, and is really more of a "how many voicemails have I received since I last cleared the counter"-type app, but I know it's something I'd love to have.
I started looking for WM5 or WM6 API documentation, but even the MSDN library seemed somewhat bare.... the closest I came was some documentation regarding the "State and Notifications Broker", though I don't think that would be of any use (as the reg keys associated with unread voicemail only seem to change upon receipt of the first unread voicemail).
Any thoughts?
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Man this is exactly what i need....i sure hope it can be developed.
ill be watching this,
dwizzy130

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Text voicemail notification not working on Vodafone? Help!

Hi everyone,
I have just been told that there seems to be something wrong with the HTC TyTn when it comes to receiving voicemail notifications by text on the Vodafone UK network.
Has anyone else come across this and if so, are there any solutions?
We can get notifications through "alert & deliver" as well as the "alert" options, but when we choose "text" notification, nothing comes through to let us know we have a voicemail waiting for us.
Thanks!
J.
you need set up your answer service at vodafone on line. the voicemail number changes to 242 - you get full alerts as normal plus you an download voicemails as wav. files and you get a fax number an its all free!!!!
We are getting SMS alerts but they are damn slow - they come through hours after the voicemail is left.
cdyat said:
you need set up your answer service at vodafone on line. the voicemail number changes to 242 - you get full alerts as normal plus you an download voicemails as wav. files and you get a fax number an its all free!!!!
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Same problem for me - no text alert of voicemail. However, registering for Vodafone's 242 service via www.vodafone.net fixes it - pretty much instant text alert of voicemail, plus some other also free services that I have yet to explore.
What I find difficult is that VF itself seems to have no corporate memory for this and other Hermes/1605 problems. I wasted hours talking to customer services while assorted agents made me repeat the lack of Internet browsing problem that I experienced when I first got the phone, only to discover - thanks to this forum - that VF is peddling an incorrect setup sequence, using the word Intranet when it should be Internet.
The lack of text alert for voicemail has meant yet more time with customer services and has again exposed VF's inability to remember a practical work-around.
It is not very impressive.
KevinF.

Any way to change the persistence of the new voicemail notification?

Whenever I get a new voicemail, I get the notification and the little tape icon on my top bar - but I can't dismiss the notification like I can, say, a new text message. It's always there, I can hide but it's still there, taking up my left soft key - which I already have assigned for other things (in my case, WM5NewMenu).
Are there any registry changes which can be made to change the persistence of the new voicemail notification?
Also, I had to hard reset my phone once and although it's now working perfectly, the 1 key doesn't have the voicemail number bound to it (although if I receive a voicemail message, and I hit the Voicemail softkey when the notification appears, it correctly dials the voicemail number which I now have saved in my phone's address book).
Is there any way to re-bind the voicemail number to the 1 key so that I can just hold 1? I've tried reassigning the number via the Speed Dial menu, but it won't let me bind any number to 1 as it's reserving it... For voicemail! haha.
Any help is much appreciated.
I have the same problem, I can't get rid of the Voicemail tape message icon eithier, but this only started today so maybe this is something to do with Orange.
Hopefully someone here will have an answer.
I'm on T-Mobile... It does go away after you listen to the voicemail and either save/delete the message, so it's obviously a system message which is updating the phone to remove the dialog - but I'd much rather be able to specify how long the message hangs about for, I know when I get a new voicemail because it makes a noise / vibrates and the icon appears on the top bar - I don't need a message which hogs my soft key too
There's gotta be a registry setting, I had a cursory look around my registry earlier but couldn't see anything which jumped out at me.
Here's a convenient list of useful registry info.
http://www.rotlaus-software.de/wiki...les?DokuWiki=0562770ec55a74217e3db710ca5e6e88
Which Rotlaus kindly put up to help you program skins for the excellent freeware app rltoday.
From that...
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\System\State\Messages\vmail\Total\Unread\Count
is the culprit. Then again I find the best way to get rid of the notification is to listen to the voicemail
I am running the newest version of LVSW's WM6 rom and this isn't an issue. If I hit Dismiss, it goes away but the tape icon stays in the top...yay!
I don't think some of the replies understand that the symbol remains even if you have listened to your messages, and even in my case deleted all of them.
It's really annoying as you constantly have to check voicemail because you may have a new message.
I seem to be having the same problem. I have listened to all of my messages and the tape icon still remains. This just started today and I am on Orange UK.
I use the LVSM WM6 ROM too.
lindseyp said:
Here's a convenient list of useful registry info.
http://www.rotlaus-software.de/wiki...les?DokuWiki=0562770ec55a74217e3db710ca5e6e88
Which Rotlaus kindly put up to help you program skins for the excellent freeware app rltoday.
From that...
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\System\State\Messages\vmail\Total\Unread\Count
is the culprit. Then again I find the best way to get rid of the notification is to listen to the voicemail
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But what does the value need to be to unset it?
Emails with Cingular
Admin edit: Please respect people's privacy and remove e-mail addresses and real names when you copy/paste e-mails.
-----From: diafygi-----Sent: March 28, 2007------------------
Is there any patch yet available? It's been 7 days since I first informed
you of the bug. A patch (alpha or beta or stable) should be available
within two weeks of the first confirmed bug report.
diafygi
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-----From: wdsglobal-----Sent: March 23, 2007-----
Sir,
I got a chance to test on a WM6 device so I've updated my message as
follows:
"It appears that this is a known bug - it's reported on
xda-developers.com and seems to be known there. I also tested this on
our WM6 Wizard and this issue appears to be corrected in WM6, but until
there is an official WM6 ROM available for the 8525 - if there even will
be - the customer would like to know if there is a WM5 patch available
to fix it, or if one could be made that would be "official" and not
break his warranty."
Thanks,
****
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-----From:wdsglobal-----Sent: March 23, 2007-----
I received a response from higher up in my department asking whether it
affects only the 8525, or if it affects all WM5 devices. Here is my
reply. Please look it over before I send it to ensure I accurately
represent your views on the matter:
============
Further clarification.
I have now tested this as well with an 8125
ROM version: 2.25.11.1 WWE
ROM date: 5/11/06
Radio version: 02.25.11
Protocol version: 4.1.13.12
ExtROM version: 2.25.11.102
It acts the same. Other notifications dismiss so that one can access the
previous notification, and when all notifications have been viewed the
left softkey returns to being calendar and right softkey. But when there
is a voicemail notification, it won't dismiss -- thus you can't easily
view who the caller was by viewing the missed call notification.
I suspect that this is a known bug - it's reported on xda-developers.com
and seems to be known there.
I'm trying to get a hold of our WM6 Wizard so I can test it on that,
hopefully it's been changed on WM6, but even so until it's available the
customer would like to know if there is a WM5 patch available to fix it,
or if one could be made that would be "official" and not break his
warranty.
============
Regards,
****
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-----From: diafygi-----Sent: March 23, 2007------------------
Any word from the development team? I need to be kept in the loop on this.
diafygi
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-----From: wdsglobal-----Sent: March 21, 2007-----
Here is what I've escalated to our development team:
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Hi ,
Here is the technical issue I mentioned yesterday which I feel should be
brought to development's attention.
WDS ticket 070320US12253344
Customer Name: *************
MSISDN: **********
CBR: **********
E-mail: diafygi
Cingular 8525
ROM version: 1.34.502.1
ROM date: 09/21/06
Radio version: 1.16.00.00
Protocol version: 32.53.7018.01H
Receive call.
Either ignore it or don't answer it.
Caller leaves voicemail.
Device shows Missed Call notification.
Device shows Voicemail notification.
Press Notification (left soft key).
Shows Voicemail pop notification.
Press Dismiss (right soft key).
Press Notification again to attempt to get the Missed Call notification
to see
who called.
The Voicemail notification is still there - it won't dismiss.
In order to look up who the caller is you have to open the phone app,
and filter for missed calls which is very inconvenient.
Customer would like to know if an upgrade or patch might be developed to
fix this.
Thanks,
wdsglobal
===========
I will let you know as soon as I hear anything, or in a couple days
whichever comes first.
Regards,
****
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<<<<<<He calls me to let me know that he has confirmed the bug. He then sent my an email (above) of what he passed on.>>>>>>
-----From: diafygi-----Sent: March 21, 2007------------------
I think there is a misunderstanding. You do have the same ROM as I do. You
are getting exactly what I get on my phone.
However, this is the current bug:
-I receive a call.
-Call pops up on my screen with "Answer"(<left) and "Ignore"(right>)
softkeys
-Either I miss the call completely or press "Ignore"(right>); the problem
happens both ways
-"Notification"(<left) appears while "Contacts"(right>) softkeys; and icon
appears at top of screen indicating missed call
-caller leaves a voicemail
-popup notification appears saying that I have a new voicemail; icon
appears at top of screen showing a new voicemail; "Voicemail"(<left) and
"Dismiss"(right>) softkeys appear while popup notification appears
-popup notification goes away after a short period; "Notification"(<left)
and "Contacts"(right>) appears as softkeys
-I press "Notification"(<left) softkey and popup indicating that I have a
new voicemail is displayed; "Voicemail"(<left) and "Dismiss"(right>)
softkeys are displayed
-I press "Dismiss"(right>), mainly because I want to see who left the
voicemail: I want to see the missed call notification
-popup disappears; icon indicating new voicemail at top of screen remains;
"Notification"(<left) and "Contacts"(right>) softkeys return
-I press "Notification"(<left) and the Voicemail notification appears
again!
No matter how many times I "Dismiss"(right>) the voicemail notification,
it does not dismiss. The only way I can get rid of the voicemail
notification is to press the "Voicemail"(<left) softkey during the popup
or call my voicemail and actually listen to the voicemail. So, I cannot
see the missed call notification until I actually listen to the voicemail.
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-----From: wdsglobal-----Sent: March 20, 2007-----
Dear Sir,
I finished the ROM update on my 8525
The Device Information for it is as follows:
ROM version: 1.34.502.1
ROM date: 09/21/06
Radio version: 1.16.00.00
Protocol version: 32.53.7018.01H
Please compare that to your Device Information to ensure they are exactly the same.
To test it, I followed the following steps:
1. Called the device.
2. Allowed the call to go to voicemail.
3. Waited for the voicemail notification pop up on the bottom of the screen, at which point the softkeys say "Voicemail" (left key) <--> "Dismiss" (right key).
4. Allowed it to hide itself, at which point the soft keys indicate "Notification" <--> "Contacts".
As I understand it, when you follow the same procedure, in step 4 the right soft key remains on "Dismiss" and won't change to "Contacts", correct?
I'm afraid I'm not able to duplicate that. I've also tried pressing Dismiss while the notification pop up was still showing.
Are you doing any other steps that I am missing?
If not, I suggest our next step would be to fully sync your device so no data is lost, hard reset the device, then without installing any third-party software attempt to duplicate the issue on your device again.
Since it apparently doesn't affect all devices we could ask Cingular to replace the device under warranty.
I also did search xda-developers fairly extensively but haven't found anyone who appears to be reporting that exact problem, though I've found other similar notification-type issues such as this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298280
Do you know of any other threads that report the same issue?
If you would like me to call you back, please email me a time that you will be available between 9am and 6pm Pacific Time and I will be happy to do so.
Thanks,
****
HTC Support
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This is my email thread with a support guy at Cingular (apparently outsourced). I've called 4 times in the past about this exact bug, but this time I actually got someone who is willing to help. It's not done yet, but look for me to stay on their asses about it. I'm not technology oriented, so I would like to get an official fix from Cingular/HTC. The bug apparently is also on the 8125 (Wizard) as well as the 8525 (Hermes), so I guess it's a WM5 issue. But, I guess that's Cingular's problem.
The easeiest way to solve this for me, was just calling my own phone, leave a 1 second message, check the voicemail, then delete it and the tape goes away. Annoying and should be unnecssary but i can't stand the icon there
I believe that's a different bug. This bug is when you actually receive a voicemail. When I listen to the voicemail, the notification goes away. My icon (knock on wood) doesn't stay like other people's have.
issue NOT resolved
I just got a call from the HTC support team for cingular. They said that there is NOT going to be a patch or bug fix for this issue. It IS a known issue, and the next version of the ROM does fix the problem. However, the next ROM official release date is not finalized and will contain Windows Mobile 6 (WM6). They said it should be in the next few months. This ROM has already been cooked in the wiki. If you want you can use those for the immediate fix. However, being not technology-oriented, I'm going to wait for the official release and official support (but I guess that hasn't really helped).
WM6 ROMs:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Cooked_ROMs
This would have been sooo much easier if it were open source. The bug would have been fixed yesterday. But now, we have to wait for a HUGE upgrade with (I bet) its fair share of bugs and bloat. I am bumping the Hermes Linux project.
It's a WM5 issue, for sure. My wife has Treo 750 (WM5) with exactly same issue: VM notify stays on even if all VM listerened to and deleted.
Needs a reg-tweak I guess.
Annoying issue, yet simple solution:
Use regedit (a little search over the forum will help you download it if you don't have it)
Then go to:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER -> System -> State -> Messages -> vmail
At this point select wich line is the one that has voicemail (1,2,etc), go to "unread" and
on count value, edit decimal value to "0"
Do the same on "total" folder.
That will erase the recording tape from your PDA.
Hi,
not sure about the tape symbol, mine goes when I delete/save a message...
However I can solve the number 1 key problem...all you need to do is dial 222 and listen to what it says (it'll send you a text which you delete and then soft reset) and it should assign your voicemail number to you #1 key.
HtH
issue NOT resolved after upgrade WM6
Hi,
I upgraded my TyTN with WM6 (from HTC site). Before, when I was abroad, I did never receive a SMS message from Vodafone indicating a voicemail was delivered. After installing WM6 this is fixed and I do receive the text message, not only in The Netherlands but also abroad.
However, the tape symbol appeared after the very first received voicemail and I can't get rid of it anymore. So, WM6 did NOT fix the problem......
Flight
Yep
i am on Satin and I get the tape too. It only goes away when I listen and delete the message. Every time I turn the device on (back from sleep), i see a message warning me aboute de voicemail. If it had not this message, I guess i would not mind. Just the tape would not botter me. But the frequent warnings i cant stand. Dont know about the soft key, will pay attention to that next time

Stupid question? How much of the GSM hardware is exposed to the programmer?

I was thinking I might like to have an application that sits on the WiFi interface -- maybe as a web server -- and reports things like how many text messages and voicemails I have, signal strength, etc. It would also be REALLY cool if I could LISTEN to those voicemails and READ those text messages via this app.
Does anyone know if this kind of access is available?
For the record, I have a Cingular 8525 (HTC TYTN/Hermes 100) running WM5.
Bumping this because I really could use an answer :/
spb have signal str showing software
non of the things you ask about require what i would call
gsm hardware access
to read sms and mails is just a matter of accessing the text in the outlook db files
and read them with a "robot" voice
i'm sure there are already programs which support that
and voicemail as it's only supported on the operators end
so it would just require customization to match how the operator in question handle that and auto call and "press" 1 to hear voicemails and the likes...

iPhone Style Voice-mail

Do any of you know of or think that the iPhone style Voice-mail service will be coming to Windows Mobile devices soon? (At no additional cost )
Unfortunately I found the first feature the iPhone has that I currently see no alternative solution for.
Still, I would never get an iPhone but would love to have the ability to browse Voice-mails like TXT messages. Delete without listening to. Seems like something that should be available to all and is long overdue!
nothing free as of yet but here's the one if you willing to pay.
Code:
[url]http://www.viewyourvoicemail.com/?gclid=CLXJp5vLm48CFQh6gwodJUFoeQ[/url]
another pay service:
http://simulscribe.com/?gclid=CPeJndrMm48CFQqZggodMiuRfA
I didn't actually mean get Voicemails as TXT messages, I meant be able to browse through them rather than listen to one at a time and have to skip if you don't want to delete one and stuff like this iPhone ad.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcPv9PqnqfM
Just a list of voicemails and who left them with the ability to listen to any or delete them if I don't care what they have to say
Like described here in the commercial! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-2PeyLz30E
yea I know what you're talking about. I havent seen an app like that yet but i'd like to see something like that come out soon for us.
I assume that it uses the data connection and/or possibly txt messaging. Otherwise I don't see how they can be doing this. Even with a txt msg list of voicemails, it would take longer than it does in the "demo" video to start playing if it had to dial out and play it on a voice line where as if it downloaded then through a data connection they are on the device ready to play.
That also means that AT&T will most likely charge for the feature if they ever decide to do it for WM Devices.
The iPhone integrates with a custom server in AT&T's network infrastructure that links into AT&T's voicemail servers. The custom server pushes a new voicemail down to the iPhone via the iPhone's data connection, and stores each voicemail on the phone itself as a compressed audio file.
Someone would need to write an application that could pretend it was an iPhone on AT&T's network, and attach itself to the iPhone voicemail push server. That same app could then store each file as it is transferred to the phone in memory and present the voicemails in a graphical interface.
ljinsane said:
another pay service:
http://simulscribe.com/?gclid=CPeJndrMm48CFQqZggodMiuRfA
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While simulscribe is a pay service.... Simulsays is not. Yes there are two different things. I figured this one out on my own. So here ya go. Go to Simulsays.com and then setup an acct. Where it wants you to chose a package don't worry about it. The trick is to check no to having your voicemails transcribed. Once you set up your acct. you will download the program that works EXACTLY like Visual Voicemail on the iPhone. It is great. The way this one works is it instructs you to reroute your voicemail to the service and then the program that you then download pulls voicemails at a "set by you" time interval or just at will without auto polling. Hope you can figure it out. If you want to be sure you are not getting charged simply go to the link for support and get the phone number and say hey i want to make sure my acct is set up so that I won't get charged.
I am just not sure if every 'cool' service makes sense!
As the name says already: it is a VOICEMAIL! By seeing who left a message and being able to delete you will most likely often delete people who might have an important message! You won't know until you actually listen to it!
However, most likely you see on your phone who called anyway, so, you can asume that that was the person leaving a message. If you don't wanna listen to it then don't!
This reminds me somewhat of the new AUDI cell phone which has its own docking slot within the car and takes pictures of intruders. Those pictures then get forwarded to the AUDI CENTER. Audi really expects you to leave your phone in the car all the time ...
By seeing who left a message and being able to delete you will most likely often delete people who might have an important message! You won't know until you actually listen to it!
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But what about being able to prioritise your voicemails -you can see a list of who has left you a voicemail, and just jump immediately to the one you want?
Someone would need to write an application that could pretend it was an iPhone on AT&T's network, and attach itself to the iPhone voicemail push server.
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I am no programmer, so do not know if what follows is feasible or not, but, I can see no reason why you'd need to link to the iPhone's system at all- just use the WindowsMobile 6 system.
1.) When someone calls, this is logged
2.) When a voicemail is left, this is logged, but not against someone's number
3.) By combining the "missed call" log with the "voicemail" log, you should, in most cases, be able to identify who left the voicemail, I believe, or at least have a rough idea.
4.) The application needs to be able to list the voicemails left, and the link the call's number to their name: so you can see that Mr. X left you a voicemail at 10:00am.
5.) Provided that you always access voicemail via the application, and not directly, you could sort out the deleting too - most systems I've used have an IVR which lets you jump between messages, and delete them etc. So, for example, you tap on the third message in this application. The application dials your voicemail number, waits for a period, and then, using the IVR commands, moves to the relevant mail.
for example, something like, 121,,,,1,3,3,3 for the example above. (where "1" is the IVR code for "voicemail", and "121" is the shortcode)
If you deleted the voicemail yourself directly, then, that could cause a problem, as the application is not linked to the voicemail system, but, you could delete it via the application:
121,,,,,1,3,3,3,4 (where "4" is the IVR code for delete)
The application then removes the listing for that voicemail from the list. As such, the fourth voicemail becomes the third etc.
Neil_Brown said:
But what about being able to prioritise your voicemails -you can see a list of who has left you a voicemail, and just jump immediately to the one you want?
I am no programmer, so do not know if what follows is feasible or not, but, I can see no reason why you'd need to link to the iPhone's system at all- just use the WindowsMobile 6 system.
1.) When someone calls, this is logged
2.) When a voicemail is left, this is logged, but not against someone's number
3.) By combining the "missed call" log with the "voicemail" log, you should, in most cases, be able to identify who left the voicemail, I believe, or at least have a rough idea.
4.) The application needs to be able to list the voicemails left, and the link the call's number to their name: so you can see that Mr. X left you a voicemail at 10:00am.
5.) Provided that you always access voicemail via the application, and not directly, you could sort out the deleting too - most systems I've used have an IVR which lets you jump between messages, and delete them etc. So, for example, you tap on the third message in this application. The application dials your voicemail number, waits for a period, and then, using the IVR commands, moves to the relevant mail.
for example, something like, 121,,,,1,3,3,3 for the example above. (where "1" is the IVR code for "voicemail", and "121" is the shortcode)
If you deleted the voicemail yourself directly, then, that could cause a problem, as the application is not linked to the voicemail system, but, you could delete it via the application:
121,,,,,1,3,3,3,4 (where "4" is the IVR code for delete)
The application then removes the listing for that voicemail from the list. As such, the fourth voicemail becomes the third etc.
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And all that only because of people get too lazy to press and hold "1", set your phone on speaker and listen while doing something else?
However, your plan still would require to communicate with the VOICEMAIL system. You want to delete something by pressing "4" - if you do not communicate with the VOICEMAIL system you can't delete but only the notification in your phone! As a programmer you should know better!
It would require an always-on connection to your voicemail to monitor what is going on there and also to transmit changes you make through the "menu" in your phone! And so on and so on and so on ...
However, your plan still would require to communicate with the VOICEMAIL system. You want to delete something by pressing "4" - if you do not communicate with the VOICEMAIL system you can't delete but only the notification in your phone! As a programmer you should know better!
It would require an always-on connection to your voicemail to monitor what is going on there and also to transmit changes you make through the "menu" in your phone! And so on and so on and so on ...
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I'm sorry, but, can you please read through what I've written again? I can't see how you reach any of your conclusions, and, as you've written "[a]s a programmer you should know better", whilst I've clearly stated in the first line that I am not a programmer, I have doubts that you've understood it properly.
As long as the application can register a keypress in the Phone application, I cannot see why it would not work. It expressly does not require an always-on connection to voicemail, hence why the dial-strings I've included contain the voicemail dial number... The string dialled is the based on the options you select, combined with call-log details.
I agree that it is probably not worthwhile in terms of time-saving, but, hey, someone bothered starting this thread
Well, I missed the "no" in the beginning of your post - I appologize for that!
However,
a VOICEMAIL with functions mentioned in this thread would need a permanent or repeated connection to the voicemail itself.
A better thing would be to disable the NETWORK PROVIDERS voicemail service and have an application running on your phone just as SMARTPHONEWARE's BestAnswer for SYMBIAN PHONES. This has all the options and I used to love that app when I still had NOKIA. It records your voice messages directly on the phone's memory and not to a virtual MailBox in the network provider's computer.
Info here: http://www.smartphoneware.com/ansmachine-for-s60-product.php
Would be a challenge for WINDOWS MOBILE programmers to teleport it to WM devices ...
However,
a VOICEMAIL with functions mentioned in this thread would need a permanent or repeated connection to the voicemail itself.
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Indeed- it would need to call voicemail each time, in my model. However, if someone really wanted a visual voicemail application, then, in the short term, it might work.
A better thing would be to disable the NETWORK PROVIDERS voicemail service and have an application running on your phone just as SMARTPHONEWARE's BestAnswer for SYMBIAN PHONES. This has all the options and I used to love that app when I still had NOKIA. It records your voice messages directly on the phone's memory and not to a virtual MailBox in the network provider's computer.
Info here: http://www.smartphoneware.com/ansmac...60-product.php
Would be a challenge for WINDOWS MOBILE programmers to teleport it to WM devices .
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As I understand it, that would be a nightmare under WM?
thedogger said:
The iPhone integrates with a custom server in AT&T's network infrastructure that links into AT&T's voicemail servers. The custom server pushes a new voicemail down to the iPhone via the iPhone's data connection, and stores each voicemail on the phone itself as a compressed audio file.
Someone would need to write an application that could pretend it was an iPhone on AT&T's network, and attach itself to the iPhone voicemail push server. That same app could then store each file as it is transferred to the phone in memory and present the voicemails in a graphical interface.
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lol i dont know who told you that but it's blatantly false...
The iPhone system works like every other system except that when a new voicemail message is received (by the server) a text message is sent to the iPhone (not the actual voice message. a text message) that is encoded with the time of the delivery, the caller's #, and various other information like how long the message is and such. A link is also included in the text message that is added to the Voicemail List on the iPhone. When you select to listen to a message from the list you're actually clicking on a link (basically a specific # to input once you're connected to the voicemail server).
Your method would require that every single voicemail message that is received by AT&T would be converted and sent to the receiving user (even if they don't use an iPhone) and then if the user was *not* using an iPhone the file would be denied. That would require huge amounts of converting and data transmission for no reason whatsoever. AT&T's out for money like every other company they're not going to waste time and effort developing a system like that when their simplified system works just fine.
Also, it appears that visual voicemail alerts are sent via SMS, and there's a special handler in the SMS app that passes them to phone alerts in the Phone app.
The SMS alert comes from the number 1000000000, its composition is below. Note that I've replaced the relevant mobile number with 8005551212:
smpp-vip.allntxacds12.attwireless.net:5400?f=0&v=300&m=8005551212&p=&t=8005551212:A:AMS_NB_VIP6:ms01::5065
If you attempt to reply in SMS to this number, you get an error message:
Error Invalid Number. Please re-send using a valid 10 digit mobile number or valid short code.
the text message is the trigger for the voicemail
we know how it works now can we get it to work on wm6 and or 5
Short search with the help of Google bring me this solution - http://www.isecretary.net/
WM based voice mail.
Is this what you all wanted?
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lol i dont know who told you that but it's blatantly false...
The iPhone system works like every other system except that when a new voicemail message is received (by the server) a text message is sent to the iPhone (not the actual voice message. a text message) that is encoded with the time of the delivery, the caller's #, and various other information like how long the message is and such. A link is also included in the text message that is added to the Voicemail List on the iPhone. When you select to listen to a message from the list you're actually clicking on a link (basically a specific # to input once you're connected to the voicemail server).
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Wow...why would you say it's false? Do you have an iphone? I can listen to my voicemails when my iphone is in AIRPLANE mode (all raidos and calls disabled)...so either my iphone is lying about being in airplane mode and it's really calling AT&T servers...OR...it really does download the audio voicemail files to your phone.
GrandCentral is your answer ...
Go to GrandCentral.com and signup. You'll probably have to wait, as it is still in private Beta, but not more than a few weeks. Basically, you'll get a free phone number (choose one in your local area) and can route that number to a number of places and can access it in a number of different ways ... including the Internet.
It has voicemail that you can peruse, just like e-mail.
- Unlimited inbound minutes
- Unlimited voicemail
- Unlimited Credit for click-to-call
- All premium features, including call record
And the best part is that it is owned by Google, so it is FREE!!!! Woo hoo!!!!

Reject Call With Text Message

Does anyone know how to get this to work?
It can be found in Start - Settings - Phone - Advanced Tab
Mine is ticked but doesn't seem to do anything when I choose Ignore to an incoming call (i.e. the caller is not sent a text message saying the above)
Any ideas
I have wondered about this for a long time, but haven't come up with anything to make it work, sorry.
I usually disable it sooner or later, just in case.
K_Hismoom said:
I have wondered about this for a long time, but haven't come up with anything to make it work, sorry.
I usually disable it sooner or later, just in case.
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I have unlimited text messages so charges isn't an issue for me.
All I can find is the option to send a text message when a call comes through, but nothing to automatically send a text message on an ignored call.
Hm, I think it's like this. Someone is calling you and if you wan't to ignore/reject the call, put your phone upside down on a table(with screen to the table), the call will be automatically ignored and I think THEN the message will be sent try it, not sure
I think, I have figured it out.
On an incoming call, you have the option to click on "Send text" in the lower left corner. The call is then rejected and you can compose an SMS to send to the caller.
I use an app called SMS Minder to do this myself, and I'm quite pleased with the results. You can have it respond to all missed calls/texts (select BLACKLIST & leave the field blank) or only to missed calls from certain numbers (select WHITELIST & add the numbers you want to respond to).
I've been using it for several months and it makes my work so much easier. I'm a cabdriver, and when a call comes in & doesn't get answered for whatever reason SMS Minder sends a message that says "I can't talk now, please text me".
For the longest time I didn't really trust Texting that much, but it's become an integral part of my work now. So much easier to read&reply to an SMS (10 to 15 seconds tops) than it is to dial voicemail, listen through the prompts & recital of the phonenumber, then listen to the message...and finally after all of THAT is done, then return the person's call. Texting is just that much easier.
Especially if I use a program like this to automate my responses...and a program on my desktop to send other text messages just like they were an email (it's got an interface similar to Outlook). I plug the phone into the computer & tuck it away...then any interaction I have with the phone is done by using Jeyo Mobile Companion (SMS interface with additional cool features) and/or MyMobiler (fully manipulable screen-shot of the phone's screen) on my desktop.
Of all the apps I've tried and/or discarded, these three have become almost indispensable to my work.
Use QSMS To Buddy:FullFeatured Free app from android market
Posted Android app on non Android forum by mistake. Sorry!
i believe, given the age of this thread, that it is about the native windows mobile feature to reject calls with an sms and there was no need to bump the thread with an app for another operating system. also, on android, depending on your phone and rom, this feature might also be pre-installed and available from stock, w/o the need for a 3rd party app.

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