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Here's what I have:
Dopod 900, with ROM Xda_Exec_Upgrade_v1.30.162.
Transcend 2GB SD (150x)
TCPMP 0.71 using RAW FrameBuffer. Not using any other TCPMP plug-ins.
Everything else left at default.
Video performance is really bad. Even in benchmark mode, I only get about 110%-120%. And at time, the frames are a bit flaky...
I had an HX4700 previously. I know the graphics performance of the Universal can't really compare to the HX4700, but I do expect it to be somewhat between than what it is now.
Is there anything I can do to improve the video performance?
No one can help out?
Am I the only one having issue with it?
Something that I missed?
Or is there no solution to gain better DivX playback performance/quality?
Do not use the raw framebuffer. Use the xscale option instead.
Thanks. Now using XScale driver and the vertical thingy option...
Much better now...but the video still has a really tiny jerk every now and then (5 seconds or so...).
Now I know the video performance isn't as good/fast as the hx4700, but can't I at least get a smooth video going on this Universal?
Glad to be of help. Try installing tcpmp on your storage card, this seems to help some people with a htc uni...
Thanks. Already storing the program on the SD card...
Is everyone happy with TCPMP on the Universal?
Am I the only one having these small issues?
Try installing version 0.66 instead.
On my Exec my benchmarks went up to between 140% and 180% just by doing that.
Also use a different setting to 'fit to screen' as that will slow playback down.
What is resolution of the video you are trying to play? Scaling the video is actually very processor intensive. If you are encoding yourself you should go for 640x something and not stretch the video, or if its 576x something else just leave it unscaled also.
Surur
Well, I'm already playing the videos at zoom 100%, speed 100%, XScale driver with that vertical thing "checked", using version 0.66, installed to SD card.
Video is one of smallville's episode downloaded off the net.
Width 624px
Height 352px
Duration 43min40secs
BitRate(audio) 189kbps
Audio format MPEG Layer-3
Framerate 23 framers/sec
Data rate (video) 135kbps
Video sample size 12 bit
Video compression XVID
Device has been hard reset and clean installation of TCPMP.
BT off, Wifi off, GSM/3G/GRPS...all off.
Hardware: Dopod 900
ROM: Dopod 900 English, latest...
Give me the URL and I'll do some benchmarking myself
Surur
It's the Season 5 Finale... Episode number 22.
I'm not sure if I can/[allow to] post torrent links here.
I get minor glitches on most videos files - these are also tv shows, films etc downloaded from torrents.
I'm using version 0.72RC1 - are you saying downgrading to 0.66 will improve performance?
Only minor...VERY minor improvement.
I encode my own video's recorded off TV @640 X 480 using pocket Divx encoder, these run almost perfectly after a fresh boot !! I only get the odd dropped frame, right now I'm sitting by the pool @ the marriott ( using my uni ) but when I get home I will try an upload a 100 MB clip and you can tell me what results you get, if it runs well then it comes down to how your video was encoded and you should try re-encoding it with pocket divx
BTW for an instant 10% boost both to your benchmark and normal playing ability you can try using Pocket Hack Master, I can reliably take my UNI to 624 MHZ and it makes a noticeable diffrence both to the performance (good) and the battery life (bad) you should also consider that the speed of your SD card may be a liiting factor !!! but I doubt it
OK as promised, a small collection of files you can use to benchmark with that I encoded @ 640 by 480 using pocket DivX the quality is stunning, I can play these with no probs
Only 50MB not 100MB and only available for 7 days
http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=B98D53265D12AB52
ice_coffee
I am using TCPMP 0.71 on a Orange SPV M5000. I am trying to play a WMV downloaded from the UBISOFT Rayman Raving Rabbids page. (Bunnies Can't Play Soccer) Despite fiddling with numerous settings I can't get any decent performance at all.
Is this just because the Universal can't play a 640*480 WMV happily?
You sample videos play back perfectly happily - the boxing clip benchmarked at 130%. The Rayman WMV benchmarks at 65%
Any ideas?
Thanks
Christopher
diffrent types of Video encoding require differing amounts of CPU power to play back !!! try re-encoding your rayman clip with pocket DivX encoder
Vid quality 100 (out of 199) and audio quality 9, dont forget to choose an E800 as your device (it is VGA)
Thanks for that. I have tried that, and it does play better, but the video quality is severely degraded.
I have tried upping the quality to 199 and also experimented with other "Advanced" options but it still looks much worse than the original.
Would you expect the video image quality to degrade?
NO! especially at 199 the quality is so high that the Uni struggles to play it ( it requires 2.5 Mbits per sec but the uni maxes out at around 2.2 ~2.3 ) the quality however is stunning truly better than any HD tv on the market (comparing pixels per inch squared ) I will be unable to show you an example for around a week as I'm currently off on my hols
Howdy all,
I have had my M5000 for some time now - and having some experience in video / compression settings, I have spent months fiddling back and forth trying to find the perfect settings for SMOOTH playback.
I have read thread after thread all over the web with half help, good ideas, etc but no definitive answers.
The strange thing is that after searching for a long time, I came accross an Xvid of Mr T's "Be Somebody" (don't ask) - and this runs absolutely perfectly on my M5000.
Analysing the exact compression settings with vDub and gSpot reveals the following :
Frame Size : 352x240, 29.970fps
Length : 90418 frames
Decompresser : XviD MPEG4 Codec
Number of Key Frames : 678
Data Rate : 802Kbps
Audio Sample rate : 44100Hz
Channels : 2
Compression : Fraunhofer IIS MPEG Layer 3
Data Rate : 96Kbs
Thinking I had cracked it, I then used these exact compression settings on several ripped DVDs, but to no avail. Jerk. Jerk. Stutter. etc.
I've even tried setting the data rate as low as poss for both audio and video, reducing frame size to tiny, but it still won't play smoothly.
So - after this long rant (apologies), could anyone please tell me the exact settings they use for absolute 'smooth as a button' playback - and if there's anything painfully obvious that I am missing?!
I am running these vids from my highspeed SD card, with TCPMP 0.72RC1 installed on the card also.
I am happy to use any software, but am rather keen on Pocket DVD Studio.
I am extremely jealous of those who appear to have full framerate playback, so please help - for the sake of my sanity!!
well my xda is in the post on its way to me, but i did have the same problem with a standalone divx dvd player. you need to go to moitah.net and download the mpeg4modifier and unpack the bitstream.... this sorted the problem for my divx player...
let me know how you get on
Greetings.
My Exec plays videos encoded with PocketDivxEncoder full screen with no stuuter or jerking. I simply use a preset for one of the Pocket PCs and it works like a charm. I use TCPMP as my video player.
Good luck!
lathe
Hi,
Same here. I use PocketDivxEncoder (free) and TCPMP, works like a charm. I tried upgrading to lathe (bought it) for the sake of being able to compress to a higher resolution for the possibilities of the universal, but that was not a succes. The extra options are nice but you end up with a blocky and stuttering picture (even if you put in the same configurations used in PocketDivxEncoder). After a couple of test runs like this I gave up on lathe and went back to PocketDivxEncoder. So my advice is to stick with this program for encoding.
Good luck with finding your best solution!
Hi I am on a universal, after not being impressed with wm player i upgraded to TCPMP aswell and its very good, full screen works wonders. As above its all free.
Have you tried encoding the video with Microsofts WM9 Encoder, it's free and, fair enough the resolution isn't great as with all these encoders for pocket pc, the picture is perfectly good on a 3.5" screen. WME has a built in Pocket PC profile to make converting a file even easier.
If the source is in 16:9 format the letterbbox is automatically added to keep aspect ratio or you can choose to crop the file etc......
hi guys,
I'm glad having a Xperia since last week....but I'm unable to run videos fluently - even with TCPMP 0.72RC1.
There was a "James Bond" trailer von the device when I have bought it, but it runs with 1 frame per 5-10 seconds!
even other movies don't play fluently.
Yesterday I did a hard-reset....but this didn't help.
Does anyone have the same problems?? Or a solution for this probs?
I even tryed out the "Turbo Speed X1 - Up to 8 X faster Performance than standard setup"...but even this didn't help...
//edit: there's no branding on the device...ROM: 1.02.932.3 from 08/29/2008
hi Cysign,
first i have to say sorry... i cannot help you with your specific problem.
but i have got a related problem. the bond trailer runs ok with my x1i... so i tried to rip a dvd for the x1 by myself using the following conversion-settings:
video: 480x270, h264, mp4, 25fps (pal) @ 796kbps
audio: aac @ 128kbps
this resulted in a 706mb file.
i copied the file via active sync to the 8gb flash card in the phone. all went well so far but when i watch the movie it looks somewhat "artificial". meaning that this movie looks like it was made by using a home-videocamera. (i hope this discribes it a little)
the bond trailer doesnt have this videoish appearance.
what went wrong ? are my settings exceeding the capabilities of the x1? or do you have other suggestions ? (btw, i tried to use the same settings as the bond trailer)
greetz
Did you guys trying increasing the buffering size in ur players? I personally use core player 2.0 and it plays perfectly but sometimes and this is rare but its like the graphics gpu is failing or something. All the images appear on the screen very slowly but a hard reset usually fixes that.
Guys, when I try to play the Bond movie, it prompt for license cert etc but it is still not able to play. How to resolve this problem?
chongbh said:
Guys, when I try to play the Bond movie, it prompt for license cert etc but it is still not able to play. How to resolve this problem?
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which player?
that bond trailer ran pretty good on my x1a. i cant remember if i watched the whole thing or just to see how it ran but from what i did see, it was good. no lag or freeze up. i played it on the standard media player that came on the phone. i didnt play it thru the panel tho, i just played it by opening up media player. how were you running it? my x1a is pretty much all stock with no hacks on it.
i also had some movies that i ripped in .3gp format and from what i can tell, it also ran pretty good. i ripped these movies for my other phone (lg cu500) and my nokia internet tablet and so it also runs pretty good on the x1a.
i like ripping in .3gp because i can play it on any of my devices and the files are about 100mb per two hour movie. i think my resolution that i ripped my dvd was something like 480 x 240 but im not for certain. its kind of funny that not all devices will run mpeg because of the different variations of mpeg. kind of dissapointing when a product says it will a certain format but when you try and run it, it just so happen it doesnt support that perticular format.
Try Media Xperiance Panel, it is by far better than Core/TCPMP/WMP.
I think the media panel is the only app that support Hardware Accelerate in X1 at the moment.
but it doesn't play most formats and even some of my mp4s sadly
Similar problem here.
The only vid that plays well is the bond trailer.
All others (wmv) are played but with a horrible fps rate
Tried to start media player directly from the today screen and via panel... no difference.
Looks like a fast slideshow.
kanthai said:
Try Media Xperiance Panel, it is by far better than Core/TCPMP/WMP.
I think the media panel is the only app that support Hardware Accelerate in X1 at the moment.
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i tried both, playing via wmp and the media panel but the appearance of my ripped movie stays the same....
there is no stuttering but (as i said in my first post) it looks like it has something to do with the framerate. ?
btw, here is a readout from the program "super 2008 build 33" of the bond trailer:
Video
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Codec : AVC
Codec/Family : AVC
Codec/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Codec profile : [email protected]
Codec settings, CABAC : No
Codec_Settings_RefFrames : 2
PlayTime : 1mn 58s
Bit rate mode : VBR
Bit rate : 892 Kbps
Width : 480 pixels
Height : 260 pixels
Display Aspect ratio : 16/9
Frame rate mode : CFR
Frame rate : 24.000 fps
Standard : NTSC
Chroma : 4:2:0
Interlacement : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.298
StreamSize/String : 12.6 MiB
Language : English
Audio
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Codec : AAC LC
Codec/Family : AAC
Codec/Info : AAC Low Complexity
PlayTime : 1mn 58s
Bit rate mode : CBR
Bit rate : 128 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : L R
Sampling rate : 44.1 KHz
Resolution : 16 bits
StreamSize/String : 1.81 MiB
Language : English
I tried a My name is Earl episode a few days ago. It's in 1280x720 resolution so I thought it would be a good starting point for a test.
I managed to play it ok i media player at 800x448 or around there, but only with 600 kbps bitrate. It looked ok and played fairly smooth. I would say around 20 fps.
For recoding I used the Xvid4PSP program with modified default MP4 profile.
You need to use x264 (AVC) profile 4.2 and AAC LC (Low complexity). Then it should play with hardware acceleration.
800x480 resolution may be overkill, since the pixels are so tiny, so I would recommend a much lower resolution (600x'something') and around 600 kbps bitrate for a nice result.
I just run the 350mb (ish) avi files direct in Coreplayer.
Res is around 640x352.
TV shows are fine, and IronMan only had a few drops in the high action scenes.
Here's what I do with my videos:
Open PocketDivXEncoder on my pc.
Select HD-TV as the option.
Select the movies I want to endcode.
Drop video quality to 70.
Audio qaulity to maximum.
Resize video (keeping aspect ratio) to 400 horizontal.
Encode.
These all play in Coreplayer smooth as silk
I personally do absolutely nothing. I download a movie and just place it on my sd card and watch it through core player. It plays smooth with no compression at all.
try using spb mobile dvd to convert your movies, i've done this with some movies that didn't play smoothly and now they all work perfectly
Im currently using TCMP im just wondering if anyone has any ideas for the optimal settings for it
Cheers
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Did you guys trying increasing the buffering size in ur players? I personally use core player 2.0 and it plays perfectly but sometimes and this is rare but its like the graphics gpu is failing or something. All the images appear on the screen very slowly but a hard reset usually fixes that.
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what is a recommended buffer rate for watching videos?
Can someone confirm that the only player that utilises the media accelerator is the media panel?
I had thought that WMP also uses the accelerator.
Also what are the codecs the accelerator uses?
I've tried various MP4's and i've found only by lowering the resolution do I get smooth playback.
I'm currently going through the baselines for H.264 and found that baseline 3 does not play and baseline 1.3 does not get accelerated.
I'm currently (as I type) encoding a file with the baseline of 1 to see if that is accelerated.
I think we need to narrow down the exact codecs/media players/resolutions to use.
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I'm currently going through the baselines for H.264 and found that baseline 3 does not play and baseline 1.3 does not get accelerated. I'm currently (as I type) encoding a file with the baseline of 1 to see if that is accelerated. I think we need to narrow down the exact codecs/media players/resolutions to use.
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the bond trailer is [email protected]
i'm currently using "super2008.33" and the readout of my re-encoded movies show [email protected]
how can we "upgrade" this baseline thing to e.g. L2.1 ???
--> did a quick search on the net....but no info about that...
nucleic acid said:
the bond trailer is [email protected]
i'm currently using "super2008.33" and the readout of my re-encoded movies show [email protected]
how can we "upgrade" this baseline thing to e.g. L2.1 ???
--> did a quick search on the net....but no info about that...
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In super if you look in the video panel you can see the H264 Profile in the options section.
Click on the "H" button and the profiles pops open and select your baseline from there.
I've tried Baseline 1 now and still i'm not getting acceleration...the file still plays faster on Coreplayer than it does in the panel.
I'm wondering if this is because I have Jack's custom Rom using pubbas panel installer for the Media experience?
Also nobody answered me about whether or not WMP uses acceleration?
i have noticed specially in the latest 6.5 release that windows mediaplayer plays video frame at a rate of 1 second. then i further noticed that video refresh rate is proportional to any other moving object on the screen. specially the refresh rate becomes very high when activesync notification is animating in the title bar.
how can i get rid of such dependency?
Not really sure what you are talking about, but windows media player isn't the best choice for playing media on your phone.
I recommended trying Coreplayer 1.3.2 is has limited Qtv suppport but alone allows smooth and enjoyable playback.
Hope this helps
who uses wmp lol...
use tcpmp just ignore coreplayer(especially if you need subs).
hi
im trying to view live TV streams (PBX TV if someone knows it) , they are at 512kbps
they are very slow, the sound is ok but the video freezes up alot
i tried using coreplayer (Qtv GDI) TCPMP and windows media player they all are slow
for example in coreplayer i have 110 played frames and 500 dropped
is there some settings/tweaks that i need to do so i can watch fluid video
or a software that i can use?
thx