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Coreplayer...former TCPMP Test Videos&Benchmarks

Hi all.
Recently got the new Coreplayer (formerly TCPMP but now commercial version with built in codecs).
Please feel free to download the .zip file which contains 4 differently encoded 1 minute video files taken from a vob/DVD source file for benchmarking/comparison purposes.
I've had mixed results and would appreciate any feedback, especially with regards to the AVC test video, as I simply cannot get it to bench past 106% successfully on my Hermes. Considering the H264 codec is supposedly the way to go in terms of great balance between quality and file size, I'm really trying hard to achieve this. It has been achieved by many across many other platforms, but I've not heard from anyone with a Hermes having had good results as yet.
Sorry about the poor quality jpeg of Benchmark results, but the .zip file has a larger and better copy within it.
There's much discussion going on over at:
http://www.corecodec.com/forum/index.php?topic=3324.0
Please feel free to join in and contribute.
Downloads at the bottom of this post (hopefully). No, sorry Uploads failed! Will try again when I hear back from webmaster. Unless anyone knows where I can upload a 14mb zip file (4 small video files).

I havent used coreplayer yet but the version of tcpmp im running (and using the imate ROM) REALLY likes avi files encoded with xVid mpeg4(2 pass)....using auto gordian knott technique.
managed to get a decent few hours of synced playback no problem with that encoding method.

mackaby007 said:
Hi all.
Downloads at the bottom of this post (hopefully). No, sorry Uploads failed! Will try again when I hear back from webmaster. Unless anyone knows where I can upload a 14mb zip file (4 small video files).
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The Wiki seems to allow bigger uploads
Mike

I found that if the video res is higher than the screen, it chugs like no other...haven't tested with regular res yet.

DivX 6.4.0 & DVDx....excellent on Hermes!!
I've had some pleasing results at last, but not through CoreAVC. Instead I'm having much better results using CoreASP. I'm now using Divx 6.4.0 with DVDx and am encoding using Divx's High Quality setting 4. This omits the need for choosing the appropriate bitrate and the resluting file still ends up smaller than MP4 H264 or x264 etc.
In the Divx codec settings I choose 'Auto detect' for 'Noise Reduction' and 'Bicubic Sharp' for 'Resize Filter' on the 'Video properties' page and 320x240 resolution. On the 'Main' page I choose 'HQ 4' setting....that's it. It takes a little longer to encode than I would like e.g. 55 minutes for a 80 minute movie, but it really does look like High Def on a small screen, Benchmarks comfortably in excess of 125% and more and additionally plays with the type of fluidity that leaves no room for complaint. 277mb for 80min of VERY HQ with no blocking/artifacts of any kind.
I've only tested an animated film at this stage but will encode an action movie to see if I get the same pleasing results. If I do, my quest ends here. I'll post my findings shortly, either way.

mikechannon said:
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Mike
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Thanks mike, but I've found a much better way of encoding IMHO, so I don't need to upload anymore.

Hi all.
After some more testing and lots of encodes, i thought I'd share my findings.
In short, I encoded to low and high bit rate vids:
1) AVC MP4s using Nero Recode and Super (.mp4)
2) Standard MP4s using ImToo DVD to Ipod Converter (.mp4)
3) PocketDivxEncoder (.avi)
4) 3GP Converter v031 & 034 (.mp4 AVC & .avi)
5) DVDx and DivX 6.4.0 (.avi)
Best results were still no.5 DVDx and DivX 6.4.0 nothing else even came close in terms of quality but AVC by far generated the smallest filesizes, as did PocketDivxEncoder.

I wonder how you guys managed to run a video on TyTN using the CorePlayer at all, as it does not support the ATI Graphics chip in the right way.
When I try to start a video playback, I get a real shaked display that is unreadable.
See also here: http://www.corecodec.com/forum/index.php?topic=3333.0

foo said:
I wonder how you guys managed to run a video on TyTN using the CorePlayer at all, as it does not support the ATI Graphics chip in the right way.
When I try to start a video playback, I get a real shaked display that is unreadable.
See also here: http://www.corecodec.com/forum/index.php?topic=3333.0
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I'm having same problem. Any other alternative soft meanwhile?

That's a known bug. Picard & BetaBoy are aware of it and are waiting for information from ATI. ITMT use Raw Frame Buffer.

mackaby007 said:
Hi all.
After some more testing and lots of encodes, i thought I'd share my findings.
In short, I encoded to low and high bit rate vids:
1) AVC MP4s using Nero Recode and Super (.mp4)
2) Standard MP4s using ImToo DVD to Ipod Converter (.mp4)
3) PocketDivxEncoder (.avi)
4) 3GP Converter v031 & 034 (.mp4 AVC & .avi)
5) DVDx and DivX 6.4.0 (.avi)
Best results were still no.5 DVDx and DivX 6.4.0 nothing else even came close in terms of quality but AVC by far generated the smallest filesizes, as did PocketDivxEncoder.
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what is the difference in size between pocketdivxencoder and dvdx? (trying to determine if i should switch over now, or wait till i get a 2gb card.

y2whisper said:
what is the difference in size between pocketdivxencoder and dvdx? (trying to determine if i should switch over now, or wait till i get a 2gb card.
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Hi y2whisper. Sorry about the long delay, but been tied up. Not literally.lol.
Anyway....pocketdivxencoder is great and results in fairly small filesizes due to its 2 pass encoding process. You can achieve the same with DVDx & DivX 6.4.0 by specifying one of the multi-pass functions (haven't actually used though). From my experience (using other software), you'll get better quality vids with 1 pass encodes, but smaller files with 2 Pass. The choice is yours.
I chose a new 2GB card and the 1 Pass method outlined in my previous post. There's no looking back for me. Hope it works out for you.

Hey thanks for the response, i will try it and and see the actual size of files, haven't done movies in a while, normally just shows i taped and recap while on the treadmill

mackaby007 said:
Hi all.
After some more testing and lots of encodes, i thought I'd share my findings.
In short, I encoded to low and high bit rate vids:
1) AVC MP4s using Nero Recode and Super (.mp4)
2) Standard MP4s using ImToo DVD to Ipod Converter (.mp4)
3) PocketDivxEncoder (.avi)
4) 3GP Converter v031 & 034 (.mp4 AVC & .avi)
5) DVDx and DivX 6.4.0 (.avi)
Best results were still no.5 DVDx and DivX 6.4.0 nothing else even came close in terms of quality but AVC by far generated the smallest filesizes, as did PocketDivxEncoder.
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thx mackaby007, i'm going to try DVDx now.
tried with nero and avc, but it just doesn't play smoothly with LVSW 5-20-07
have you tried any more combinations?

Suggest you give AutoGK a go.
Ive already posted about my findings in this thread (see post 19 onwards) MUCH success with it.

AutoGK rocks, got some great results with it, thx mrvanx
compared the results with avc and avc is pretty good for filesize/quality but the hermes can't play it without jerkiness. autogk+xvid=awesome quality

tdream said:
AutoGK rocks, got some great results with it, thx mrvanx
compared the results with avc and avc is pretty good for filesize/quality but the hermes can't play it without jerkiness. autogk+xvid=awesome quality
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No problem. I figured it would be widely known!?!
Im currently updating my hermes upgrade guide to have a tutorial on making decent looking vids.

why are movies so crap ?

I am enjoying my new toy, but compared to my PSP the movies look really crap!
this device has a 600 hz chip and yet struggles with a 640x480 25 fps movie
I downloaded the F4 silver surfer which everyone said was great but compared to a Psp movie it looked like VHS.
does anyone know why this is and will it improve?

spacecat said:
I am enjoying my new toy, but compared to my PSP the movies look really crap!
this device has a 600 hz chip and yet struggles with a 640x480 25 fps movie
I downloaded the F4 silver surfer which everyone said was great but compared to a Psp movie it looked like VHS.
does anyone know why this is and will it improve?
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Get tcpmp downloaded.......if that doesnt improve the playback it might be the same reason why the hermes was crap at video playback.....the OS sucks!
the hermes now plays videos quite nicely on WM6.....are you still on WM5?

no I am on wm6
I read another thread and am trying some different settings so hopefully it will mprove
still for such a pricey device it should work out of the box

it is most likely the conversion software you r using or the format that its in. i use spb mobile dvd 1.2 and i convert it into wmv so i can use wmp10 and not TCPMP. if you want to try a "TRIAL " copy i can send it to you, just drop me a line.
[email protected]

irus said:
it is most likely the conversion software you r using or the format that its in. i use spb mobile dvd 1.2 and i convert it into wmv so i can use wmp10 and not TCPMP. if you want to try a "TRIAL " copy i can send it to you, just drop me a line.
[email protected]
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email has been sent

err its ok i seem to have found the TRIAL copy

nice video here i use tcmp and select the video driver ATI

run a few tests and its better but cant touch PSP AVC movies for quality

spacecat said:
I am enjoying my new toy, but compared to my PSP the movies look really crap!
this device has a 600 hz chip and yet struggles with a 640x480 25 fps movie
I downloaded the F4 silver surfer which everyone said was great but compared to a Psp movie it looked like VHS.
does anyone know why this is and will it improve?
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Hi spacecat.
They are not crap at all. As another member pointed out to you...it's all about the encoding.
DVD rips (like Axxo's torrent rips) look like HQ DVD's on my Athena, but only in a widescreen format. Meaning any bigger resolution and the Athena seems to strugle with lipsync and general performance/playback speed and skipped frames, right?
I did a small test converting 2 High definition movies into 640x368...not quite 480, but the end result was truly fab!!
It still looked high def...virtually filled the entire screen...or fills it depending what player you use...TCPMP is best or Coreplayer v1.1.1 looks a tad better, but no performance issues to complain about and absolutely minimul frames dropped.
But because I don't have the time for all that now, I simply settle for torrent downloads and play them directly via TCPMP or Coreplayer. And they look the nuts. Razor sharp.
Hope it works out for you.
P.S. The only benefit IMHO in using WMP10 and WMV (MP4-ASP) video files, is that it will be accelerated by the Imageon hardware decoder, but Coreplayer and TCPMP can use the Imageon software driver to accelerate all movie formats except WMV.
So in conclusion use WMP10 for WMV and the freeware TCPMP v0.71rc with all plug-ins available for everything else.

I'm still on WM5 and tge movie quality is absolutely sensational. On the other hand, it is crap on both of my two PSPs! I don't bother using my PSPs. I think it is potentially possible to have quality video if I get the settings right in PSP, just like you can have quality video on thus device if your setting is right.

Be careful with the ATI fix cab. I just installed it on the Athena and now my device can not boot pass the second splashscreen

mackaby007 said:
Hi spacecat.
They are not crap at all. As another member pointed out to you...it's all about the encoding.
DVD rips (like Axxo's torrent rips) look like HQ DVD's on my Athena, but only in a widescreen format. Meaning any bigger resolution and the Athena seems to strugle with lipsync and general performance/playback speed and skipped frames, right?
I did a small test converting 2 High definition movies into 640x368...not quite 480, but the end result was truly fab!!
It still looked high def...virtually filled the entire screen...or fills it depending what player you use...TCPMP is best or Coreplayer v1.1.1 looks a tad better, but no performance issues to complain about and absolutely minimul frames dropped.
But because I don't have the time for all that now, I simply settle for torrent downloads and play them directly via TCPMP or Coreplayer. And they look the nuts. Razor sharp.
Hope it works out for you.
P.S. The only benefit IMHO in using WMP10 and WMV (MP4-ASP) video files, is that it will be accelerated by the Imageon hardware decoder, but Coreplayer and TCPMP can use the Imageon software driver to accelerate all movie formats except WMV.
So in conclusion use WMP10 for WMV and the freeware TCPMP v0.71rc with all plug-ins available for everything else.
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you said you did two test in 640x368 what software did you use. thanks

mackaby007 said:
Hi spacecat.
They are not crap at all. As another member pointed out to you...it's all about the encoding.
DVD rips (like Axxo's torrent rips) look like HQ DVD's on my Athena, but only in a widescreen format. Meaning any bigger resolution and the Athena seems to strugle with lipsync and general performance/playback speed and skipped frames, right?
I did a small test converting 2 High definition movies into 640x368...not quite 480, but the end result was truly fab!!
It still looked high def...virtually filled the entire screen...or fills it depending what player you use...TCPMP is best or Coreplayer v1.1.1 looks a tad better, but no performance issues to complain about and absolutely minimul frames dropped.
But because I don't have the time for all that now, I simply settle for torrent downloads and play them directly via TCPMP or Coreplayer. And they look the nuts. Razor sharp.
Hope it works out for you.
P.S. The only benefit IMHO in using WMP10 and WMV (MP4-ASP) video files, is that it will be accelerated by the Imageon hardware decoder, but Coreplayer and TCPMP can use the Imageon software driver to accelerate all movie formats except WMV.
So in conclusion use WMP10 for WMV and the freeware TCPMP v0.71rc with all plug-ins available for everything else.
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im gonna look into it as im sure this can be improved but why does it struggle so much at 25 fps
on my psp i cn get 29.97 fps and razor sharp definition using AVC or PMPMOD with no dropped frames at all. Everyone i have ever shown my psp movies to are blown away by the picture quality. the Athena movies look grainy and pixellated in comparison
Im sure the Athena can do more but its a pain finding out

spacecat said:
im gonna look into it as im sure this can be improved but why does it struggle so much at 25 fps
on my psp i cn get 29.97 fps and razor sharp definition using AVC or PMPMOD with no dropped frames at all. Everyone i have ever shown my psp movies to are blown away by the picture quality. the Athena movies look grainy and pixellated in comparison
Im sure the Athena can do more but its a pain finding out
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The PSP was designed for multimedia exclusively. every last detail in this respect has been thought through. The Ameo serves a multitude of purposes and utilizes thirdparty software for a great deal of applications. With a few tweaks it works a treat, but its not the same thing. The PSP is an out of the box video and gaming solution and isnt really comparable. Try browsing effectively, typing a word document or sending a text or making a call on your PSP - that would impress your mates!

leoni1980 said:
The PSP was designed for multimedia exclusively. every last detail in this respect has been thought through. The Ameo serves a multitude of purposes and utilizes thirdparty software for a great deal of applications. With a few tweaks it works a treat, but its not the same thing. The PSP is an out of the box video and gaming solution and isnt really comparable. Try browsing effectively, typing a word document or sending a text or making a call on your PSP - that would impress your mates!
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I am not denying what you are saying but I would have thought that a brand new top of the range device costing 700 pounds woud be able to out perform a 2 year old device that you can now pick up for 100 pounds.
I am very happy with most aspects of my Athena its a great device for many things but for movies its quite poor.
I did a conversion in spb dvd at 640x336 as recommended but it was
still poor. The only one that has looked comparable was a 640x480
conversion at 25fps. it looked good but kept skipping frames.
also if you stopped it the player stopped working .TCPMP and CORE
if anyone has a definitive programme and settings for making near dvd quality movies without skipping I would be very interested to hear

spacecat said:
I am not denying what you are saying but I would have thought that a brand new top of the range device costing 700 pounds woud be able to out perform a 2 year old device that you can now pick up for 100 pounds.
I am very happy with most aspects of my Athena its a great device for many things but for movies its quite poor.
I did a conversion in spb dvd at 640x336 as recommended but it was
still poor. The only one that has looked comparable was a 640x480
conversion at 25fps. it looked good but kept skipping frames.
also if you stopped it the player stopped working .TCPMP and CORE
if anyone has a definitive programme and settings for making near dvd quality movies without skipping I would be very interested to hear
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I agree with you to a degree, although the Ameo is tied to the fact that it uses a generic OS (which automatically leaves it open to performance issue). The PSP on the other hand has an OS specifically designed for it.
I find that since i installed the HTC 001 rom i dont have any playback problems at all. I always select ATI Imageon rather than ATI imageon decoder, and also choose microdrive mode. it works for me

I just tried your settings , I was playing from the memory card
used the microdrive and the ati imageon MUCH MUCH better
no skipping . this was with a 640x336 clip .
I will see what a full 640x480 at 25fps can do tonite
cheers

here is what i use:
Player: TCPMP 0.81 with all plugins
Driver: ATi Imageon
Storage: Microdrive
Bitrate: 600kbps (benchmarked at 625, so 600 is safe )
Framerate: 25fps
Encoder: Divx 6.1
Quality: Insane
Audio: AC3, lowest bitrate etc
works a charm

Midget_1990 said:
here is what i use:
Player: TCPMP 0.81 with all plugins
Driver: ATi Imageon
Storage: Microdrive
Bitrate: 600kbps (benchmarked at 625, so 600 is safe )
Framerate: 25fps
Encoder: Divx 6.1
Quality: Insane
Audio: AC3, lowest bitrate etc
works a charm
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what prog do u use to encode the movies?

spacecat said:
what prog do u use to encode the movies?
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WinAVI, email me for a 'trial'

Best Converter that can also handle HD MKV etc

I currently use Nero recode for mp4 which is very good in my opinion plus the video qualityis great, but need one that can handle HD rips, any pointers will be appreciated.

Try mediacoder its open source and its free, very powerful tool to convert videos.

Not sure if SUPER does mkv, but it's free and has loads of options.

Thanks have tried mediacoder but keep getting no output file error, ve played around some with no success...
I ll give super atry also..

I have been using MP4forHD and winmenc that i used for my HD2 and they come out excellent looking.

jpopgt said:
I have been using MP4forHD and winmenc that i used for my HD2 and they come out excellent looking.
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What am I doing wrong in Winmenc, every time I encode something using either xvid or x264...and i copy over to the desire when i explore using astro, i cant find the files...

Did you use the profile setting......
[0-HTC HD2] MP4 H264 800x480 2000kbps Sharpened, AAC 44Khz 96kbps
or
[0-HTC HD2] MP4 H264 Baseline 800x480 1800kbps Sharpened, AAC 44Khz 96kbps
I think i downloaded off one of the HD2 forums but can't find a link now.
If you want, i will upload them for you.
Note - i have noticed a slight lip sync on playback though but video is stunning.

saayinla said:
What am I doing wrong in Winmenc, every time I encode something using either xvid or x264...and i copy over to the desire when i explore using astro, i cant find the files...
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I tried Winmenc today and it didn't fly for me either. 1st-pass runs fine but 2nd pass immediately renders a 0-bytes file. It's the same with single pass encoding. Perhaps we are missing some obligatory codecs for this program to function properly.
Mp4ForHD works fine though: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=478050

Try this clip i made and see if it shows.....
http://rapidshare.com/files/371991498/Satoyama.mp4
You may need this profile ini.....
http://rapidshare.com/files/371989525/new_profile.ini
I never wrote the ini file, it was someone on the HD2 forum.

jpopgt said:
Did you use the profile setting......
[0-HTC HD2] MP4 H264 800x480 2000kbps Sharpened, AAC 44Khz 96kbps
or
[0-HTC HD2] MP4 H264 Baseline 800x480 1800kbps Sharpened, AAC 44Khz 96kbps
I think i downloaded off one of the HD2 forums but can't find a link now.
If you want, i will upload them for you.
Note - i have noticed a slight lip sync on playback though but video is stunning.
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Thanks for this will give it a shot, but 2000kbps is a lot of bit rate and lot of memory card space, i will edit the settings and reduce the bit rate to around 750 for the video and bout 96 for audio..

I just use Handbrake.
800 x 480, 1500kbps data rate, 128 audio at 48khz

are you able to save a profile out.. haven't used HANDBAKE before so being a little lazy
thx

I use Format Factory 2.30
Select psp and ps3 in output settings and choose xperia x1 avc

hawk1973 said:
I use Format Factory 2.30
Select psp and ps3 in output settings and choose xperia x1 avc
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I also like Format Factory. But Desire doesn't play video as nice as HD2 does...
Hope a real good player will come out soon...

Have you tried mvideoplayer off the market, runs nicely.

Yes, I have now. It does work ok, but still seems that HD2 perform better.
Sent from my HTC Desire using the XDA mobile application powered by Tapatalk

Miro Video Convertor
Super simple totally worth it. Otherwise I just used handbreak which I still do for larger files which I want to tweak more. Miro Video Converter is soooo easy though and nice if you just want to drag and drop a file to get what you need.
Sadly I cant post a link yet since I'm a "new" user, though I've looked at this site for years. Wonder how long it'll take to be verified?

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Super simple totally worth it. Otherwise I just used handbreak which I still do for larger files which I want to tweak more. Miro Video Converter is soooo easy though and nice if you just want to drag and drop a file to get what you need.
Sadly I cant post a link yet since I'm a "new" user, though I've looked at this site for years. Wonder how long it'll take to be verified?
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wow that does look really good, it even has a Nexus One profile which should work perfectly!
will check it out...
edit: tried it and dont like it. It gives you no control over bit rate/quality and as such transcoding a large file ends up in a file almost the same size.
The search continues....

jpopgt said:
Try this clip i made and see if it shows.....
http://rapidshare.com/files/371991498/Satoyama.mp4
You may need this profile ini.....
http://rapidshare.com/files/371989525/new_profile.ini
I never wrote the ini file, it was someone on the HD2 forum.
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Hi thanks for the .ini, I changed the bitrate to 1000, framerate to original and the audio bitrate to 160. looks nice. I am going to play around with the video bit rate and see how low I can take it.
What is interesting is that the Desire will play these x264 encodes but not my handbrake x264 encodes, wonder what I am doing wrong.....

s4vva said:
Hi thanks for the .ini, I changed the bitrate to 1000, framerate to original and the audio bitrate to 160. looks nice. I am going to play around with the video bit rate and see how low I can take it.
What is interesting is that the Desire will play these x264 encodes but not my handbrake x264 encodes, wonder what I am doing wrong.....
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If you find a solution for the lip sync problem....let us know
I have been messing about with different settings and think i have found the solution to perfect video convertions but some other fault always appears.

I have found the best video player for the HTC HD2

After searching for the best video player for the HD2, including trying CorePlayer (latest version) and the Smart Movie 4.0, I have finally come to the conclusion that the Mobile Window Media that comes with the HD2 is the best player.
Here are the reasons why.
1. Core Player cannot play the movie Transformers 2 that comes with the HD2 smoothly while the Mobile Window Media player can play it very smoothly.
2. Instead of paying for Core Player, use the money and buy the ImTOO MPEG encoder ultimate and convert the .VOB file in the DVD disc of your favorite movie and convert it to H.264/MPEG-4 video (*.mp4) with 800 x 480 resolution and 1500 bit rate and you will get a movie that is just like the Transformer movies that comes with the HTC HD2.

Hey mate,
Just FYI the Mobile Window Media player embedded uses hardware support for video playback. The Coreplayer has yet to do this so invariably it will suffer as a result..
Fantastic guide though...Thnx..
Don't forget an xda developer -projection has also posted a HTC HD encoder.
Not sure which of the two is better but still nice to know..

You can also use Handbrake (freeware) to convert directly from DVD to MP4 (m4v).

wineds said:
You can also use Handbrake (freeware) to convert directly from DVD to MP4 (m4v).
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you gotta a link for that buddy?

shimmer401 said:
you gotta a link for that buddy?
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I have the link for you, buddy: http://tinyurl.com/22vk95r

wineds said:
You can also use Handbrake (freeware) to convert directly from DVD to MP4 (m4v).
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hi bro,
can you share the handbrake settings that you are using for HD2?
Thanks!

Earthbrain said:
2. Instead of paying for Core Player, use the money and buy the ImTOO MPEG encoder ultimate and convert the .VOB file in the DVD disc of your favorite movie and convert it to H.264/MPEG-4 video (*.mp4) with 800 x 480 resolution and 1500 bit rate and you will get a movie that is just like the Transformer movies that comes with the HTC HD2.
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I agree...
Using the HTC encoder from these forums today took too long and the quality was sub-par. With this program you can choose the bit-rate and the quality is sensational..
++++1 to OP
Kudos mate

I really dislike re-coding my media library in advance of wanting to watch something on the go, and I find CorePlayer handles well with almost an XVID/Divx I drop it's way, at a very acceptable quality level.
It's my two biggest gripes with this machine:
1) Windows Media Player has such limited codec support.
2) HTC won't pay Qualcomm to allow other companies access to the drivers (I think that's the reason anyway).
Either way, it nearl put me off the HD2, until I felt reassured the 1GHz Snapdragon could make up for the lack of native support.
I used that encoder year's back for my Sony Ericcson, but again I'm not prepared to put that work in (not out of laziness, I just want to be ready to go at a moment's notice and not have to factor in half-an-hour per video - nor do I want to re-encode all of my thousands of media files )

Earthbrain said:
After searching for the best video player for the HD2, including trying CorePlayer (latest version) and the Smart Movie 4.0, I have finally come to the conclusion that the Mobile Window Media that comes with the HD2 is the best player.
Here are the reasons why.
1. Core Player cannot play the movie Transformers 2 that comes with the HD2 smoothly while the Mobile Window Media player can play it very smoothly.
2. Instead of paying for Core Player, use the money and buy the ImTOO MPEG encoder ultimate and convert the .VOB file in the DVD disc of your favorite movie and convert it to H.264/MPEG-4 video (*.mp4) with 800 x 480 resolution and 1500 bit rate and you will get a movie that is just like the Transformer movies that comes with the HTC HD2.
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what you got Transformers 2 with your HD2? what the Duck!!!
hahaha

I think that there is a big flaw in windows media player: it doesn't rememeber the position of the film. That means that if you close it the position is lost. I typically look the films in small parts, as logical in a mobile device. There is a plugin to solve this but it doesn't work.
This is not a problem in core player, but core player is a lot slower.

i use a divx player on my HD2 for all my movies - they play great.
Mike

ruffruff said:
hi bro,
can you share the handbrake settings that you are using for HD2?
Thanks!
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I just use the iPhone/Ipod Touch preset. I think you can configure it for any output resolution you want though. The other great thing about Handbrake is that it can burn subtitles onto the video

hi
any body can send me link to download coreplayer for htc hd2 and divx player

Guys,
Try this out and let me know what you think about the video quality. I think it looks pretty damn good. This is the official DivX player - v0.94 (Released early 2010). The interface is very minimal but it definitely seems to be better than CorePlayer so far.
Please throw some quality high-res videos (800x480 and beyond) at it and post back.
If you guys can, it would be a good idea to throw in a few tests with Chainfire's D3D & OpenGL ES drivers.

If only WMP's "scale to fit" didn't cut off part of the video (we're talking resolutions that are LESS than 800x480).
That and the ridiculous audio lag on the HD2. I can't believe people can stand watching Transformers with that delay. Even from the very beginning where a fishing buoy is dropped into the water (and the splash is heard well after the impact, lol) all the mouths move well in advance of the words coming out.
It's preposterous. I'm holding out on the hope that Linux (accelerated) will eventually be the solution, in which case mplayer would be the "Best video player on the HD2" hands down.

thanks
thank you very much , any luck on team viewer for windows mobile version
any new software available for htc hd2
moreover, can i get advice that, whether video out is available on htc hd2

Confirmed!
This (DivX for WinMo v0.94) is MUCH better than CorePlayer. The video is very smooth, except for some very occasional freezing of the frames which is barely noticeable. I observed that only once though.
There is absolutely NO Audio lag. All my videos played fine except for one, but in this case, the audio played before the video randomly in some areas of the timeline.
I'm starting to wonder if this might be hardware accelerated.
@nagagaya: HD2 does not support TV-Out.

Woah, what a shock. I'll have to try this. I wonder when it was released, and for what devices...

curiousGeorge said:
Woah, what a shock. I'll have to try this. I wonder when it was released, and for what devices...
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Going by the file date from within the cab, the release is as recent as 25-MAY-10!

Interesting... I tried it with three HQ DivX files, and they all stuttered and were jerky, compared to playing fine in TCMCP.
Ignoring playback, my general thoughts are:
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I love the Video Browser - always wanted one of these (and would LOVE one as a Sense tab)
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I wish the "Fullscreen" buttons etc were bigger.

What do you guys use to Covert Videos for your N1

like the title says.. what do you use to get the best video quality and best conversions from movies for you N1 i use videora and Android Converter and they both are.. mediocre at best

I never managed to convert a video on ubuntu to get it playing on the nexus.
Now I have this software player that can play alot though...

I used ffmpeg, now I don't convert anymore 'cause I don't watch films on my phone
By the way, the script should still work:
avc (main executable): http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1512702/android/avc/avc
functions (BASH functions): http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1512702/android/avc/functions
preferences.avc (preferences file): http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1512702/android/avc/preferences.avc

I use Super for my conversion needs. it's free but runs on windows.
Also since I'm lazy, I use Rockplayer that does a good job at playing nearly everything

I don't do much video encoding myself, but Handbreak always comes up in discussions about encoding software. I think it has a preset iPhone encoding which should also work pretty well for Android.

rock player... no re-encoding necessary

doubleTwist.... its like iTunes for iphone but faster. Just drag video to software, it will convert and transfer to your phone at highest bitrate possible to retain best quality.

JHaste said:
rock player... no re-encoding necessary
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Yea, this.

pfmiller said:
I don't do much video encoding myself, but Handbreak always comes up in discussions about encoding software. I think it has a preset iPhone encoding which should also work pretty well for Android.
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Handbrake is quite excellent; I've used it with the iPod preset with great success.
JHaste said:
rock player... no re-encoding necessary
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I like to convert videos to save space. I don't need a full-resolution movie on a 3.7-inch screen.

handbrake ftw!
adrianr514 said:
like the title says.. what do you use to get the best video quality and best conversions from movies for you N1 i use videora and Android Converter and they both are.. mediocre at best
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Handbrake. free and fast and so far the best video to mp4/m4v converter i've used.
http://www.handbrake.fr

another thumbs up for handbrake from me!

Converting videos is for chumps.
RockPlayer. Plays nearly anything.

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Converting videos is for chumps.
RockPlayer. Plays nearly anything.
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How many 12GB Blu-Ray rips would i get on my 16GB SD card without using Handbrake?

I use Any Video Converter, it's free and easy to use. I mainly watch Anime on my phone with subtitles so this works well. It can convert an .mkv into an mpeg4 and RockPlayer will still display the subtitles.
I can't seem to get Handbrake to keep the subtitles after converting .mkv's into .mp4. I've tried extracting the .srt file from the .mkv and burning them into the converted file with handbrake but it still doesn't work.

is there anyone covering video and or audio on the phone itself? would probably be hard on the battery but I can think of a couple of situations I would have needed this function.
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App

I don't know if you know, but encoding/decoding is one of the most CPU stressing processes. For sure you may re-encode a video, but while it takes ~30 minutes to convert a film on a dual core 3 Ghz, it may take ages on our phones.

vlc is comming soon to android i cant wait

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How many 12GB Blu-Ray rips would i get on my 16GB SD card without using Handbrake?
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Your problem is using an uncompressed video format in the first place.

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Your problem is using an uncompressed video format in the first place.
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All video formats are compressed. The ones i use just happen to be compressed better. Start with a good quality source and work down. The Handbrake converted films look pretty good on an Amoled, WVGA screen at sizes as low as 700MB. At sizes of 2 Gigabyte or more they look incredible!

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Your problem is using an uncompressed video format in the first place.
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Ah, so you do need to convert it at some point, even though it's for chumps?