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So here's my story. Basically, I got Resco's Pocket Radio on my phone. I use it to stream internet radio (obviously) and I wanted to use it with a FM transmitter in my car. I got this. It works great, except that if the phone gets too close to the transmitter part, I get this crazy interference on the phone or the stereo. I am positive this is from the wireless downloading that is happening to stream the internet. Basically what i'm asking is, is there is a way to REDUCE the amount of interference? Are there some tricks or something to accomplish this?
does that plug come with an adapter for the input jack... as the wizard has a smaller input jack... did you have to buy one or does this plug right into it?
c-pimp said:
does that plug come with an adapter for the input jack... as the wizard has a smaller input jack... did you have to buy one or does this plug right into it?
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no I bought a little adapter from radio shack.
haha i have the same problem... what i was thinking is trying to get an extension on the wire and putting the transmitter further away...
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haha i have the same problem... what i was thinking is trying to get an extension on the wire and putting the transmitter further away...
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I already did that and it helped TONS, but my radio antenna on my car is in the back, and my phone and stuff is in the front of the car. So like, even like forcing the signal to the back of the car or something?
well probably the further the better ... and the transmitters usually work much further than your car is long. just out of curiosity which one do you have and how far away is your phone from it? I bought some crappy one and it works ok in my sister's car but horrible in mine and my house...
Hi all,
Just back from holiday and my new toy has arrived - an external aerial for the Exec...
Not sure if this has been covered before (I tried searching for 20 mins and didn't find anything) but after experimenting I have discovered the following:
The left hand aerial socket only works for GSM.
The right hand aerial socket only works for UTMS.
Guess I always wondered why there were 2 sockets!!!
G
Aerial sockets? Can we see some pics please?
I'd be interested in more info on this as well.
Do you know what type of connector it uses?
Any ideas on the reliability of the connections, they look as though they could be flimsy?
Have you tried to see if they improve the Wi-Fi signal at all?
And the ultimate question, what aerial is it that you bought?
Thanx in advance,
Pug.
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Hi all,
Just back from holiday and my new toy has arrived - an external aerial for the Exec...
Not sure if this has been covered before (I tried searching for 20 mins and didn't find anything) but after experimenting I have discovered the following:
The left hand aerial socket only works for GSM.
The right hand aerial socket only works for UTMS.
Guess I always wondered why there were 2 sockets!!!
G
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I think you are mistaken!
One socket is for an external GSM antenna (2G and UMTS), the other socket is for an external WIFI antenna.
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I think you are mistaken!
One socket is for an external GSM antenna (2G and UMTS), the other socket is for an external WIFI antenna.
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And are these avaiable off the shelf yet??
Mav
Aerial I bought and more...
Well to answer the important question of what aerial I bought it was this one:
http://www.mobilephonecrazy.com/modeldetail/xda-exec,Signal_Enhancer.htm
I mainly bought it for the car - driving through Windsor Great Park the signal is a bit dubious at places so bought this to improve it.
I've actually downgraded the radio stack on the phone to 1.09 recently as 1.13 seemed to have problems with the UMTS signal - in places where everyone else was getting a good UMTS signal I was getting 0 to 1 bars at most - and it does seem better now, but the built-in aerial of the Exec doesn't seem very good at all - hopefully the successor will have a better antenna!
The above aerial I think is a fairly standard aerial but the important thing as far as we are concerned is that it came with a 50cm fly lead that has a socket for the aerial at one end and a plug that goes into the back of the Exec at the other - it came in a little plastic bag marked "SPV M5000" - I'm not an electronics expert I'm afraid so can't tell anyone the actual type of plug but I'll photograph it tonight if anyone is interested.
Right I have to drive to work - have a good day everyone!
Hi,
It looks like a great find. Can you comment on how good the aerial is? Does it really do a good job of increasing signal strength and if so by how much on average?
Does it give you a signal in places you didnt used to get a signal before?
It would be great if you can post the results of your "discovery".
I have a really crap signal in my office and need to balance my phone on top of a lamp to get just 1 bar....
Also you might want to move this to the accessory board?
Any chance on some feedback for this aerial?
I really want to sort my reception problem out and would like to know how your aerial performs before wasting money...
Thnks
I'd love to post some performance reviews of this aerial however some blaggard on Friday stole my car, laptop, phone and aerial so at the moment I'm kinda incommunicado :-(
Once insurance kicks in and I get replacements (should have new work laptop shortly) I'll post some performance comments.
Sorry all!!!
G
gquipster said:
I'd love to post some performance reviews of this aerial however some blaggard on Friday stole my car, laptop, phone and aerial so at the moment I'm kinda incommunicado :-(
Once insurance kicks in and I get replacements (should have new work laptop shortly) I'll post some performance comments.
Sorry all!!!
G
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Bummer chap, hope you get sorted.
Mav
OK looks like I wil take the chance and buy an aerial anyway.
I will let you know....
Sorry about the uni
Dude sory to hear about the uni getting robbed. I also live in windsor so will keep an ear to the ground for anyone selling/getting rid of a uni.
But back to the thread.
I work in a second world war hangar with 3ft thick walls, so reception is nill.
After looking into wifi a little while back, I was making an external wifi antenna for my uni for use around home and work (very basic just a pice of wire and a wooden pole). When I plugged it in to my uni I found that the network signal (not the wifi) reception went up to 3 bars from nothing.
I have plugged the antenna in the wrong connector.
so after cocking up I have solved a problem with the signal but not the wifi.
All I used was a 10mtr pice of coax (50hm). A standard female uhf tv conector and this is the important bit, a 36mm copper rod from the centre of a power cable. Fit this in the uhf connector and point it upward like an aerial. connect the coax to the uhf connector.
Then on the other end strip the coax down to the centre core strands and snuggly slot them in the connection on the back of your uni.
Thats it!!!
Now i said it was basic!! but it does work despite the amount of cable.
If anyone would like photos I will take them toinight and try to pop them on my web site. But for now I can e-mail untill its up and running. [email protected]
If anyone would like some of the coax (I get it from work) and are near the Windsor area, feel free to e-mail me and we can sort getting some to you. (free as we are all in the same boat here).
My next project will be a car mounted type. watch this space!!
Found this on the wiki:
http://www.wpsantennas.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=408
This is just a connector, you still need an external antenna, which you can find on this site as well. If you poke around the site there is also a 3w bi-directional amp which boosts range up to 50 miles.(85km) It only works on 2 frequencies, and I don't know which is which, so I'm not sure what it's good for.
Is there a decent one out there that will accomodate the screen being opened, will hold it landscape as well as portrait etc...
Info please...
Hermes car kit for the Kaiser?
Can anybody tell me if the current Hermes car kits will fit the Kaiser?
I contacted Proclip and the said they have them in production and will have them no later then November but hopefully sooner. They are in my opinion the best out there.......no I don't work for them!
www.proclipusa.com
Brodit said a similar thing to me in an email. A couple of weeks.
Of course they did -- Proclip is the US distributor for Brodit.
For what will probably be a less expensive solution check out http://www.4ustuff.com/product.php?mode=9&search=htc+tytn+ii -- they're a manufacturer & sell only in the wholesale market.
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Of course they did -- Proclip is the US distributor for Brodit.
For what will probably be a less expensive solution check out http://www.4ustuff.com/product.php?mode=9&search=htc+tytn+ii -- they're a manufacturer & sell only in the wholesale market.
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Since they sell only to wholesalers...how do you propose we buy from them?
I don't -- just providing a preview of coming attractions.
This universal kit works well ... especially when you want the keyboard out
http://cgi.ebay.com/Car-PDA-Phone-H...yZ130797QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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Something that I dont like this kind of universal holder that uses a "spring", where there is a button to release the grip ... the spring will not tight anymore after let say several months.
And I am really afraid if it is not tight, the car bumps into something on the road and then the beloved PDA jumps out of the holder ! It happened several times.
I am not sure with Brodit / Proclip brand, can you share your experience?
I use one from Arkon and the spring is loose now. So, I removed the spring and glued permanently, cut the grip to make it fit for the Kaiser. It is ugly (really) but it can now hold the Kaiser very tightly.
Never had a car kit before, always had a pocket in my car perfect for a phone. Changed car now though and need some sort of holder. Also want to do away with my Bluetooth headset.
Does a kit exist where you put the phone in the cradle, and it both charges and connects to a car head unit/microphone. Obviously not for the Kaiser yet, but if its available for other phones, it will for this in time.
Know some executive cars have this built in and some companies cater for the aftermarket, but they seem to want hundreds. Am capable of installing said kit, just need a place to buy!
How about a Bluetooth car kit? they are available for most cars and head units (be it third party or factory fit units). and you aren't tied to a perticular phone or even make of phone.
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Something that I dont like this kind of universal holder that uses a "spring", where there is a button to release the grip ... the spring will not tight anymore after let say several months.
And I am really afraid if it is not tight, the car bumps into something on the road and then the beloved PDA jumps out of the holder ! It happened several times.
I am not sure with Brodit / Proclip brand, can you share your experience?
I use one from Arkon and the spring is loose now. So, I removed the spring and glued permanently, cut the grip to make it fit for the Kaiser. It is ugly (really) but it can now hold the Kaiser very tightly.
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The man speaks the truth - i nearly crashed as i swerved trying to catch my bloody Uni!
lol
dangerous things.. need an alternative!
I like this one
http://www.kidigi.com/Car CHT 9000.asp
as it is much smaller than the mounts which also contain a speaker built into the mount itself. I find these to be fugly and way too bulky.
Also, this is easier to take apart on the end holding the speaker and wire around it so I can run it into my AUX jack in the car. I also have a mic tucked away above the rear view mirror, have wired a spare power socket in the glove box, and tuck the wires under a kuda mount on the dash. It's a very clean look and almost appears original equipment.
All I do is cradle my phone when I get in the car and I have MP3 tunes through the stereo. When a call comes in, I just hit the answer button on the phone and the mic kicks in, while the call comes through the speakers. IMO, better than BT because I can also play my MP3s wihtout having to resort to a downgraded music signal via an FM receiver.
I've been using a very similar setup with my 8125 and also pair to a Bluetooth GPS reciever, which will now be built into my soon to arrive Kaiser Works vey nice.
Downsides? Unless I put some kind of rotation dvice between the kuda mount and the kidigi, landscape mode is a no-go. Could possibly use the seidio model for this at the expense of some additional bulk, but it looks like they have stocked out (www.seidioonline.com). It's also pretty solidly mounted, so if you like the idea of a gooseneck that can be adjusted on the fly, the kuda would not work well.
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How about a Bluetooth car kit? they are available for most cars and head units (be it third party or factory fit units). and you aren't tied to a perticular phone or even make of phone.
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Was tempted by that, but if i need to run cables in the car to charge the phone, thought i might as well put one to the speakers/mic too. Im lazy too, dont want to get my phone out and turn bluetooth on and off every time i get in and out the car
Jgermuga - So connecting the original cable from that mount that leads to the speaker, to the Aux in on your HU, when the phone rings will it automatically switch to Aux and send the call audio to the speakers or do you have to switch it to aux on the HU and then answer the phone?
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Jgermuga - So connecting the original cable from that mount that leads to the speaker, to the Aux in on your HU, when the phone rings will it automatically switch to Aux and send the call audio to the speakers or do you have to switch it to aux on the HU and then answer the phone?
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I need to switch over to AUX on the HU, but still easier than enabling BT on the phone, especially when driving. Plus, unless BT is turned on when the call comes in, I am not sure there is a way to force the connection to go to hadsfree via the car. My change over might involve manual intervention, but it is easy to just ask the caller to hang on a second, cradle the phone and switch over to AUX.
I find it a lot less distracting than trying to get at the BT screen, enable BT, switch to phone pad, hit softkey for menu, enable handfree, and hope I don't hit any buttons inadvertantly, or wind up dropping the call. I have also had the call go into limbo where I had to end it and redial... Trust me, BT is great for headsets, syncs, A2DP, etc, but I am still not thrilled with how it works in the car.
And having it hardwired is pretty impressive when I hit the Voice Command hot button on my phone, say "Play, Dave Matthews" and off it goes!
I had wizard with which i was using holder from Herbert Richter system.
not being disappointed with the quality I'm buying another one for Kaiser.
gps4less have them on ebay for a nice price.
jgermuga said:
I need to switch over to AUX on the HU, but still easier than enabling BT on the phone, especially when driving. Plus, unless BT is turned on when the call comes in, I am not sure there is a way to force the connection to go to hadsfree via the car. My change over might involve manual intervention, but it is easy to just ask the caller to hang on a second, cradle the phone and switch over to AUX.
I find it a lot less distracting than trying to get at the BT screen, enable BT, switch to phone pad, hit softkey for menu, enable handfree, and hope I don't hit any buttons inadvertantly, or wind up dropping the call. I have also had the call go into limbo where I had to end it and redial... Trust me, BT is great for headsets, syncs, A2DP, etc, but I am still not thrilled with how it works in the car.
And having it hardwired is pretty impressive when I hit the Voice Command hot button on my phone, say "Play, Dave Matthews" and off it goes!
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Sold!
So, i buy this, cut the speaker/charger off, i then need to extend the cables, one to a 12v, one to a mic and one to my aux in? Never tried anything like this before but willing to give it a shot. Any generic eBay mic do the job?
Car Holder
I have had good luck with Herbert Richter with my Vario and I have just bought the cradle for the Vario III and I imagine it will be just as good, they are great quality and do the job straight out of the box.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/T-Mobile-MDA-...ryZ75447QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
If anyone is interested. They do vent, bike, suction based holders so look at other items.
Russ
does anyone make a car adapter that is compatible with a weighted friction mount?
Garmin devices have this thing called a friction mount that is weighted. basically the underside is a soft rubber material that keeps the base from moving, and it is filled with about a pound (1/2 kilo for those across the pond) of sand. the base is very sturdy. i have taken many trips with this base with no movement at all.
http://www.amazon.com/Garmin-Portab...5?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1191742690&sr=1-1
My guess is that Garmin are the only one that would likely make any further attachments as they hold the copyright etc, seeing as the HTC devices are competition for them in so much as the TomTom/Copilot route then I dare say it would only be 3rd party taiwanese/chinese companies that are likely to risk breaching the copyright to make such holders to fit on.
Russ
I just got my hands on a rds / tmc reciever from tomtom. It has a connector which is on the tomtom go's. I was wondering if it is possible to connect this to my kaiser by an adapter. I also was wondering if anyone could tell me what type of connector the external gps port is and what type of port is on the go? Perhaps I can make my own adapter but I need to know what type of port it is.
Kaiser already have the built in GPS?
Why you want to built the adaptor for??
I do not understand what you asking here....
It's a TMC rds reciever from tomtom. It will update any traffic jams and mobile speedcams. It would be great if I get it working on the kaiser. It seems that the coax connector in the kaiser is a MS-147-C(LP)-2 connector. The tomtom tmc module has some sort of a 2,5 mm jack connector but with a metal ring around it. I can't find the name of the connector anywhere. But I'm sure if I can find out the names it would be possible with navigon to update traffic on route.
yes, i'd also like to know what kind of connector is on the AT&T Tilt/kaiser. i bought an external gps antenna for better signal, and thoght id figured out that it uses the MMCX style connection, but after receiving it from Ebay, it does not fit. Now i ned to find an adaptor to got from MMCX to Tilt GPS external connector, or splice a new correct end onto my external antenna.
Shaggy
The port on the Kaiser is only a connection for an external GPS antenna. The Tomtom RDS device uses a proprietary data interface that doesn't carry the same kind of signals at all. You won't be able to connect it to the Kaiser.
I found the MS-147 connector at HighRose corp, but they want $25.00 US for that tiny little connector. I only paid $12.00 for my ext gps antenna. So, I'm trying to go the sample route for a free connector. Said they were gonna ship it this March. Long time to wait for it, but better than paying that crazy amout for such a tiny connector. I could machine a one'sy order like that on the lathe at work for way less $$$ than that. And they are prolly running them on a CNC Screw Machine, pumping out 1 part every 3 to 10 seconds. Uggghhh.
Shaggy
This just isn't going to work, stop trying and either give the RDS/TMC receiver to someone who has a compatible TomTom or put it on eBay. believe me this won't work....
Just buy Garmin Mobile XT for your Tilt. It has traffic updates.
I've just bought this off ebay:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&item=140294161361
I had a similar car kit for my prophet for gps navigation. it's not a hands free kit though. it had an inbuilt speaker so you can hear directions clearer and you can charge at the same time.
this seller is selling one with out the fm transmitter for approx the same price, so went with this for the fm transmitter. Hope it works ok... not a real fan of the swan neck design, prefer the angled neck as in the picture. This guy is selling it a bit cheaper than other sellers with the same/similar product. Other sites like brando were selling it for a lot more. There is the original HTC or other cheaper products, but no speaker.
Will review it once i get it, really hope it works ok like for my prophet...
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&item=140294161361
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Wanted to take a look cause I'm looking for a nice solution but the link already returns :
"This item has ended with Buy it Now."
that's because i bought that. hehe
you can go and look at the sellers other listings. he has 2 kinds of these as i said above, 1 with speaker/no fm transmitter or 1 with speaker/fm transmitter.
Don't quiet understand the listing:Ca
Item # 130282049119 HTC Touch Pro FM TRANSMITTER CAR MOUNT KIT CHARGER $ 19.99
Flexible goose neck included
Item # 120354898072 Car kit for HTC Touch pro FM transmitter + charger $ 27.99
Flexible Gooseneck included
But both show a swivel mount (which I do like much better) and both items look the same
In case the item # disappears, sellers are zhoujing0209 and turbo-express
Can one clarify?
i think they maybe just copy & paste the descriptions. my seller is different than the 2 you listed. turbo-express was the most expensive 1 that i found including shipping.
yeah i like swivel as well. i think they all get them from the same supplier, hence the same 'stock' pics.
will tell when i get mine. looks like these 1s you can use as a handsfree...
Hah - I bought these last night.
I've already got a car charger.
A car mount - holder only.
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&item=130282829189
Handsfree Mic
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&item=180321523945
3.5mm Audio to Pioneer Aux (CD Stacker control input)
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&item=320314793352
I figure the mic, the charger and the Pioneer input should all plug into the next device giving me a handsfree kt that comes through my stereo. I'll also be able to play music through it.
3in1 Stereo device. Two mini usb ports and 1 3.5mm audio jack socket.
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&item=180322159245
If it works I'll then invest some money in a mini usb extension cable just to tidy things up.
Well...
mattyman said:
Hah - I bought these last night.
If it works I'll then invest some money in a mini usb extension cable just to tidy things up.
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So...did this all work? I really like the idea of using an external mic and then pumping the sound through the stereo.
Still waiting on delivery of the items...
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Still waiting on delivery of the items...
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Let us know how the FM transmitter work? Usually the sound quality is nasty.
I found this on DX a similar mount for $17.99, just to give you guys an idea how much other people are selling it for.
pandaboyy said:
Let us know how the FM transmitter work? Usually the sound quality is nasty.
I found this on DX a similar mount for $17.99, just to give you guys an idea how much other people are selling it for.
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still haven't received mine yet, but my wife did say i got a parcel this morning. will update if it is & a brief review.
DX is always good for cheap electric/tronic stuff. they don't have a touch pro version AFAIK, also reading the forums, seems like DX gave another version to a buyer without the speaker. the pictured version looks exactly like the 1 i have for my prophet but mine is the swivel neck version.
anyone know if this will work with s cdma version
HTC Touch Pro car kit has in http://www.expansys.pt/p.aspx?i=170929 ???
if the holder fits, you can use it...
I bought one for my TP... It works ok!!!
I've had mine for a few days now. I have the cradle WITHOUT the FM transmitter, It's a charger/holder only. Fit and finish are a little above what you'd expect for a $15 piece of plastic. To be honest I expected to find casting tabs and rough/sharp edges, and I didn't. Granted that it's cheap plastic, but it works well with me FUZE.
**WARNING** The power supply that comes with it is regulated to 5v. It is NOT passing the full 12v from the car to the cradle. I know that other car kit brands (Seidio especially) put the power regulation inside of the cradle itself and send out a 12v cigarette adapter with their kit. Personally, I had my Seidio kit for my Wizard hardwired into my car. I'm glad I checked voltage prior to connection. I'd imagine the full 12v would fry the USB port/charging circuit in the phone.
Pix to follow next time I go to the car...
i did get the cradle yesterday.
a bit different from the pictured item, it came with a goose neck - but ok. the suction cup initially wasn't holding well, after a few tries & a bit of saliva (ewwww! haha) it worked ok & managed to hold my touch pro. good build to be honest
the fm transmitter worked well. i opened s2p & the sound is good. as good as a clear radio channel. volume is a bit on the low side - even at touch pro max volume. need to turn the radio vol. up quite a bit (remember to turn it down once finished!) the channels go up by 0.1 MHz (if that's correct) so pain if you need to use higher frequencies. I just used 88.5 i think, no radio stations here using that frequency.
Good fit of my touch pro, not as tight as the 1 for my prophet (which was tight enough to cause a bit of chipped paint). i guess it's not for CDMA versions due to the back cover?
the cable that came with it is a bit short if you want to mount it on the windscreen. it is the coil type, but stretches if put on windshield. a worry is that the stretch would make the whole thing fall!
there is no speaker or mic input!! the description says it has a speaker & mic & can be used as a handsfree kit. NO it can't...
1 other annoying thing is that if you use the fm transmitter, u can't charge the pda & vise versa. there is a switch on the side to choose from charging/transmitter. damn annoying if you asked me, wanted this to work with charging & transmitting... u can only do 1 thing at a time. also the short or tight adaptor that came with it...
not too sure on voltage, i guess it is 5V?
all in all, good product/build but annoying that it does not have a speaker/mic input & u can't use the transmitter while charging!
will post pics when i get home. i don't know whether it's worth complaining or not to the seller about the product description not accurate, but for $56 NZD i might just do that...
pbmestre said:
HTC Touch Pro car kit has in http://www.expansys.pt/p.aspx?i=170929 ???
if the holder fits, you can use it...
I bought one for my TP... It works ok!!!
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yes & no. that is just a holder & adaptor. what i'm talking about is like that with a speaker/fm transmitter so that if e.g. u use GPS, the voice is louder.
*Looks at watch and sighs wistfully while still waiting for parts*
Why don't you open it up to see if you can connect the wires yourself? Shouldn't be too hard to tweak the kit to charge and receive at the same time...
might do that actually. was thinking of it earlier on. i'm sure u can 'cross' the switch so that it can both work together...
I just receive my car kit.
This is what i received ( sorry for the quality of the pictures)
If you link the marked wires together the phone will always be on charge
My biggest problem is that the phone wont fit with the Seidio's Innocase Surface Case on it.
I am planning to atach a microphone also.
how did you get the swivel neck?? i hate my goose neck....
it's the same unit as mine, i guess you bought from the same seller? turbo-express? i emailed the guy saying that it doesn't have a speaker & it came with a goose neck, he replied in broken english like - oops sorry, not like in the picture & no speaker.... hmmmm
used this over the weekend to navigate, i hate the fact that i can't listen to my cd's while i use it. the car kit for my prophet just had a nice, loud speaker which was excellent.
another problem is that for some reason, the transmitter would switch off all of a sudden intermittently.
show us your completed 'hack' ok? will do like you said so it will always be on charge
shame about your case... maybe now use invisible shield or the likes????