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So I've had my Touch "enhanced" for a bit over a week and I'm having some annoying issues regarding battery life. I'm charging this thing once at least once a day, twice a day when I'm using it a bunch. I've messed with the power settings, and the phone goes into standby after 2min. The only 3rd party software I have is touchpal, everything else is factory. I was just trying to gauge some input from other users. I did call HTC, and was greeted by an ass of a warranty tech, who, after getting my problem explained to him proceeds to ask me what I want him to do. Wow. Then he tells me that a new battery won't be instock for two weeks! How frustrating!
Thanks in advance.
You should get at least a day even with medium-heavy use. Up to two days on average.
If you install the excellent Chi-Dai Battery status plug-in then that will monitor the power drain on your battery. It will tell you if the problem is software or the battery itself.
Doctor Mick said:
You should get at least a day even with medium-heavy use. Up to two days on average.
If you install the excellent Chi-Dai Battery status plug-in then that will monitor the power drain on your battery. It will tell you if the problem is software or the battery itself.
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Thanks, I was about to download something to moniter the consumption. I'll give it a shot when I get home from school
I have the same issue with my battery. I use it for med-heavy. By the end of the day Im at like 15%. That sux.
I've installed S2U2...does this application drain the battery also?
monitoring your battery life won't do anything when you want to increase it
if you want to save battery life
it's likely that you have your wireless radio's turned on while they don't have to be,
go to your comm manager
WI-Fi drains A LOT of power and should be on only when you plan on using the internet
your GSM phone radio can also be turned off, useful when you're not in an area covered by your carrier when this happens your device panics and sends out signals to connect to the antenna tower this extra cell phone activity is bad for your battery life... and your sperm count
bluetooth takes an insignificant amount of energy to power
lastly pressing the lock button on the device is useful because it turns off the screen but keeps the device on using these features allows me to have my device unplugged for 2 days
the cheshire cat said:
monitoring your battery life won't do anything when you want to increase it
if you want to save battery life
it's likely that you have your wireless radio's turned on while they don't have to be,
go to your comm manager
WI-Fi drains A LOT of power and should be on only when you plan on using the internet
your GSM phone radio can also be turned off, useful when you're not in an area covered by your carrier when this happens your device panics and sends out signals to connect to the antenna tower this extra cell phone activity is bad for your battery life... and your sperm count
bluetooth takes an insignificant amount of energy to power
lastly pressing the lock button on the device is useful because it turns off the screen but keeps the device on using these features allows me to have my device unplugged for 2 days
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2 DAYS UNPLUGGED? Are you kidding me. On standby or using it. Im thinking this battery is horrible. If I dont plug in every night, im in trouble.
If you want to increase the lifetime, use Battery Status software and activate CPU Scaler, it's great!
Before: I used only 201Mhz freq, my battery had a lifetime of 1 day using it normally.
Now: I've overclocked it to 260Mhz with CPU Scaler activated (low: 99Mhz, average: 201, max: 260) and my touch can stay 3 days without charge need.
I still use these settings but I have a unlimited data contract with my operator, so my touch is connected all the time to Edge (push mail and weather updates), and with these settings I have to charge it every day. Don't care about this since I work with a PC all the time.
I think if I used all the time the original freq, I'd have to charge it more often...
CPU scaler
I have Battery Status ver. 0.5 but don't see CPU scaler, is it only available in the Beta version?
1 to 2 days of life with normal-full use. Up to 4-6 days in standby with almost no use
Bingoig11 said:
If you want to increase the lifetime, use Battery Status software and activate CPU Scaler, it's great!
Before: I used only 201Mhz freq, my battery had a lifetime of 1 day using it normally.
Now: I've overclocked it to 260Mhz with CPU Scaler activated (low: 99Mhz, average: 201, max: 260) and my touch can stay 3 days without charge need.
I still use these settings but I have a unlimited data contract with my operator, so my touch is connected all the time to Edge (push mail and weather updates), and with these settings I have to charge it every day. Don't care about this since I work with a PC all the time.
I think if I used all the time the original freq, I'd have to charge it more often...
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Can you please give me more info on the battery status software and cpu scaler?
Do you have an Elf or Elfin?
I've an Elfin.
Battery Status is a today plugin you can configure and use to overclock and set CPU Scaler.
Here is in attachment the version I use
Overclock and CPU Scaler are only available for OMAP processors, so for Elf/Elfin it will work.
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I've an Elfin.
Battery Status is a today plugin you can configure and use to overclock and set CPU Scaler.
Here is in attachment the version I use
Overclock and CPU Scaler are only available for OMAP processors, so for Elf/Elfin it will work.
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Can you give me some more info about how you have it configured. Most people with Elfin are having problems with this software. It seems to not work for CPU scaler. Any feedback from your experience.
PS- I have the HTC Touch enhanced unlocked.
the cheshire cat said:
monitoring your battery life won't do anything when you want to increase it
if you want to save battery life
it's likely that you have your wireless radio's turned on while they don't have to be,
go to your comm manager
WI-Fi drains A LOT of power and should be on only when you plan on using the internet
your GSM phone radio can also be turned off, useful when you're not in an area covered by your carrier when this happens your device panics and sends out signals to connect to the antenna tower this extra cell phone activity is bad for your battery life... and your sperm count
bluetooth takes an insignificant amount of energy to power
lastly pressing the lock button on the device is useful because it turns off the screen but keeps the device on using these features allows me to have my device unplugged for 2 days
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I turn off the wi-fi when I'm not at home. I'm always within service area, so the GSM radio stays. I don't use bluetooth. It's set to go into standby mode after 2mins. On Thursday, I took it off of the charger at 8:30am had a couple classes till 3pm, so light-to-medium use. It was dead by 3:30pm. I did install BatteryStatus later that night, and figured out the scaler, and it helped the next day. But honestly I shouldn't have to underclock it in order for it to last even a day, a bit ridiculous to me.
enaime said:
Can you give me some more info about how you have it configured. Most people with Elfin are having problems with this software. It seems to not work for CPU scaler. Any feedback from your experience.
PS- I have the HTC Touch enhanced unlocked.
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I have a Touch enhanced, and am using the CPU scaler just dandy. Just play with the settings a bit, and you'll get the hang of it. Try LOW:100 and HIGH:234, to start out, then go from there.
TIGman said:
So I've had my Touch "enhanced" for a bit over a week and I'm having some annoying issues regarding battery life. I'm charging this thing once at least once a day, twice a day when I'm using it a bunch. I've messed with the power settings, and the phone goes into standby after 2min. The only 3rd party software I have is touchpal, everything else is factory. I was just trying to gauge some input from other users. I did call HTC, and was greeted by an ass of a warranty tech, who, after getting my problem explained to him proceeds to ask me what I want him to do. Wow. Then he tells me that a new battery won't be instock for two weeks! How frustrating!
Thanks in advance.
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Visit the Kaiser forum. We're having the same issue. GPS seems to be the problem with me. As soon as I turned on GPS, it sucked my battery 5% in 5-7 minutes. Then down to 73% from 97% in 3 hours.
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Can you give me some more info about how you have it configured. Most people with Elfin are having problems with this software. It seems to not work for CPU scaler. Any feedback from your experience.
PS- I have the HTC Touch enhanced unlocked.
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I didn't configure anything particular, just installed it and set the overclock and CPU Scaler.
I talk an average of 2 hours daily. Since 6 am until 8 pm. I always get home with 15% or less. Using batt status with omap overclocking to 247. Average use of pda also.
Bingoig11 said:
I've an Elfin.
Battery Status is a today plugin you can configure and use to overclock and set CPU Scaler.
Here is in attachment the version I use
Overclock and CPU Scaler are only available for OMAP processors, so for Elf/Elfin it will work.
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Right on brotha. It worked great! I was wondering whats the lowest low you can use to conserve battery? Im at 98-low 247-high, using CPU scaler.
enaime said:
Right on brotha. It worked great! I was wondering whats the lowest low you can use to conserve battery? Im at 98-low 247-high, using CPU scaler.
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Im on 87/201/247 and boost to 260MHz, everything works fine, only some flickering when it runs on 87MHz..
But the battery life is quite good as it lasts for 2 to 3 days (light to medium usage, some texts, some phone calls, seldom Wifi)..
I have to say that the stock battery lasts much less then the one I got from Brando.. although the amperage is the same
I finally use xcpuscalar only for conserving battery, not for overclock. In another threads some people suffering from spotted, patched even broken LCDs and I do not take the risk to overclock Elfin because of possible overheat of the CPU and the CPU is most likely very close to the LCD due to the thinness of the Elfin. If the CPU is hotter overclocked than it is on normal speed it could cause spot, patch or even damage on LCD. This is my opinion.
Xcpuscalar is able to downgrade dynamically the CPU speed against Batterystatus which is only able to set one speed for the CPU, that's why I chosen xcpuscalar.
It seems to work fine even after soft reset... but 87MHz is very slow for me... it speeds up very sluggish. I use 169, 182 and 195MHz settings.
Will see the energy spare on the battery.
Hi,
Well it's about two weeks since I got my N1 and my battery life is still abysmal since I flashed to Cyanogen. I mean I litterally can't keep the device up for more than half a day.
Here's what I'm running :
Cyanogen 5.0.5.3
Baseband 36.26.00.24U_4.04.00.03_2
Kernel : 2.6.33-1 [email protected] #1
I'm on Telus in Canada, which use HSDPA only. My signal indicator keep switching between "3G" and "H" on the N1.
Here's what I've tried :
- The "WCDMA only" fix with no success in the hidden menu.
- I've tried to refresh my battery 3 times. Again, no success.
- I've bought and installed setCPU and set it to ondemand and activated my stanby profile at 245 max.
- Disabled everything except HSDPA (wifi, bluetooth, push..)
- set brightness to 40%
The phone is always a bit warm to the touch, even with no usage. Also, I get a lot of dropped call, in areas where my old iphone worked perflectly.
Any idea what's wrong with my phone? Any other HSDPA only user getting the same results?
Thank you very much in advance!
Check your battery usage...it will give you a breakdown on what process(app) that is using your phone. Can't be the CM, lots of users are using it (me included). SetCPU is awesome and set the screen brightness to 40% are 2 of the most important thing. Looks like you did your homework, there must be some app that is draining your battery.
im in the same exact boat...
I had the same problem i hated to do it but i went over to enomothers rom and now im around 70% when im off work at 6:30 when it was unplugged at 8 am so i'd recommend it he's got all the same features plus the ability to remove that annoying alarm clock icon from your status bar, i also have an undervolted kernel if i reamember correctly im not sure if i reflashed that or not. I also used set cpu to set the max cpu from 998400 to 768000 i have noticed no change in performance and it seems to save alot of battery at the time of posting this (11:52) i have 57% left it was unplugged at 10am
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....Looks like you did your homework, there must be some app that is draining your battery.
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My battery drain changed, since I use Nimbuzz.
(Used fring before, now I use Nimbuzz...)
Maybe because I got so many fb contacts and it´s updating the status al the time ..
So I would say the same: "Which app is the bad drainer???"
hello guys i have x10a fw r2ba026 rooted and i install setcpu and i have 2 task killers systempanel and process manager but still i dont see any improvement in my battery life i dont even know what to do. please guys when u read this thread please reply. i went to my battery use and this is the result i got it says 8 hours since unplugged but i unplugged like 13 hours ago i dont know why its saying that please help
8h 20m 39s since unplugged
display 72%
cell standby 8%
voice calls 6%
phone idle 5%
android system 3%
maps 3%
browser 2%
wifi 2%
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2 task killers systempanel and process manager but still i dont see any improvement in my battery life
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i would not bother running task killers. i have not got anything like that running in my rooted 26 and i can get 2 days from a charge with general usage. Task killers run and actually chew up more power than they free up and on another note, android itself is very clever at handling resources. you do not need to have 80% of your ram free (read: wasted) in order for your phone to be running well. android will kill off tasks as required.
my advise, ditch your task killers and enjoy longer battery life
I agree, automatic task killers are a complete waste of time.
Ditch the task killers. Seriously.
Also make sure your screen brightness isn't too high. Just wastes battery for nothing.
should i uninstall setcpu also? or keep it ? i uninstall process manager but havnt uninstalled systempanel
battery
on my x10 firmware v...26 rooted, battery lasts over 3 days. HOWEVER for 30hours was in plane mode and i use SetCPU in powersave mode...It's third week since i bought the phone. And screen brightness is on automatic. In that 3 days 1 reboot, few calls, mp3s, video clips, vwifi web browsing for a few minutes. If I want to play for instance NFS shift It will last for only a few hours...
@kremx can u tell me your setcpu profile settings? r u using any task killers?
I use setcpu and juice defender, both on automatic settings and set to start on bootup. Batt lasts 2 days with normal usage
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I agree, automatic task killers are a complete waste of time.
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I see that said a lot on here, has the theory been tested at all, is there any data to support that?
In response to the O.P, I use Advanced Task Killer and SetCPU.
i use setcpu and juice defender, works well for me, i get bout 20 hours of heavy usage out of my phone which is a lot better then when i first got it (got like 6 hrs of battery life), i am also running 020
edit: am also using helix launcher
mate as bin said by others, cant stress enuf, get rid of any task killers and battery aids as i hav found they do more harm, since the update the only thing i use is SEEPU to monitor the processor and memory, and my battery life has improved on mass amount, typical day, unplug at midnite, 3%/4% used overnight, bluetooth on at 8 till 4.30 with gps and sometimes wifi with few phone calls and tx plus bit of browsing market etc, by time i get home for 5.30 i still hav 65% left, so could easy do 2 day, if i turned it all off i reckon i could prob get 3 half day out of the battery maybe little more
@Shonan_ thanks an ill delete all taskkiller on phone to see how it goes. what is seepu app for i saw it on market how do i use it? does it have any benefit?
Imho task killers, setcpu etc. do more harm than help. Your display usage seems high what is your display timeout? Mines set at a minute and while my battery only lasts a day, the r1f fw my battery would only last 4-6 hours. Definite improvement. Hope this helps
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i download helix launcher omg in 6 hours i only lost 5% with like 15 texts and 10 mins call and 45 mins browsing. wow every1 should install helix launcher donut.
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wow every1 should install helix launcher donut.
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Nice! glad to hear it is going better for you
FWIW - i run ADW launcher on mine, no task killers/CPU or Battery tools and short screen timeouts. I get great battery life.
Turn down the display brightness!!!
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hello guys i have x10a fw r2ba026 rooted and i install setcpu and i have 2 task killers systempanel and process manager but still i dont see any improvement in my battery life i dont even know what to do. please guys when u read this thread please reply. i went to my battery use and this is the result i got it says 8 hours since unplugged but i unplugged like 13 hours ago i dont know why its saying that please help
8h 20m 39s since unplugged
display 72%
cell standby 8%
voice calls 6%
phone idle 5%
android system 3%
maps 3%
browser 2%
wifi 2%
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72% of your battery goes to display! Man that should give a clue!
Turn down the brightness of your display, way down. 20% brightness perhaps, that's what I can live with under most weather circumstances.
Even with auto-brightness my display doesn't eat THAT much battery.
Do you live perhaps in a very sunny area, that you keep your display so bright??
Anyway, to improve your battery life, turn down the brightness!!
I found juice defender made a difference. Before I installed it Android System was using the most power, now it's screen which is as it should be!
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tnleeuw said:
72% of your battery goes to display! Man that should give a clue!
Turn down the brightness of your display, way down. 20% brightness perhaps, that's what I can live with under most weather circumstances.
Even with auto-brightness my display doesn't eat THAT much battery.
Do you live perhaps in a very sunny area, that you keep your display so bright??
Anyway, to improve your battery life, turn down the brightness!!
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I also dont get great battery life and the display is always using at least 70% of it when I check the usage but when I turn off auto brightness it ends up being brighter even when its manually turned all the way down so it seems auto would make more sense....
First let me tell you exactly what my phone says
9 Hours 42 Minutes since unplugged
Battery Level 84 %
Display 41 %
The major things that can help in saving the battery is killing the 3G and Manually set the brightness.
am using the 3G only when i need it , i wont keep it running all the time, the reason of that is most of our apps mails etc, will Auto sync , and that will eat your batter.
Plus : Stop GPS , Bluetooth when it is not needed
why display shows 70 % of consumption ?? (((( cause you have 4 inches LCD screen ))) , smaller the screen the less it will use .
Task Killer , is not for saving battery , it is for freeing your RAM , X10 has 384 MB RAM , Android is using more than 200 MB out of it , leaving you with less than 180 MB to run your apps , so if you run few apps your free RAM will start dropping and you will start feeling how heavy is it to start any app.
I agree to the post above.
Here are the check list to improve battery life:
If you use email, put the update duration to max, except for important mail account
Set brightness to automatic
Enabled GPS, Bluetooth and WiFI when required
Only enabled 3G when you are using the phone for internet access (Find a good 2G-3G switch apps, mine runs in notification), i also found talking on 2G line gives better quality specially if you live where 3G BTS is very scarce
Uninstall all task killer and battery management
Use less widget, widget updates also takes baterry
I usually able to run the phone without need to charge for 2 days for daily task such as check email, messaging, IM and few phone calls.
wlan - standby
... with juice plotter i have seen, that my wlan-standby (screen off) does not work correctly, if some apps (also no typical always on apps) are installed, but i cant remember which ones. So after installing new apps, i always check juice plotter after (in the standby mode) ...
... i know some apps are doing an intervall update, that is ok (you can see spikes in juice plotter) but a 100% time use is silly ...
... is there a app i can monitor, which app and when an app use wlan/gps/bt (time/open/close) ???
Mdeejay eVo Sense v. 1.6 Revolution
as if i put it in idle, and it can last for two days.
it is 95% now and i checked with Battery indicator pro and it shows
light usage left: 34:12h
normal usage left: 15:12h
heavy usage left: 7:36h
constant usage left: 3:48h
is this so far the most power saving build? or anyone has suggestion? i have setcpu and task killer.
There is no "most powersaving" build. It always depends on various things you have done. Also I think those numbers are just an average, they don't have to be right.
When I leave my phone in standy at 100% battery it stays about 2 days in standby before it reaches under 5%. Just a tip, never let your phone running android run out of battery. I have heard this may cause corruptions of your data.img file.
- J
JanssoN said:
Just a tip, never let your phone running android run out of battery. I have heard this may cause corruptions of your data.img file.
- J
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Jepp... that happened to me. Not to recomend, had to reinstall from zero.
i have tried mattc leo build before and others..it does not seem to last longer as this build does as for example..when u have 100% and u disable most things task killer, setcpu and dim the display and the next day (not even 24hrs) it drop to like 30% or lower..i even install autostart and disable thouse autostart apps or background, still the same.
When i use this build same thing but just didnt do autostart things...and 100% put it idle..and next day (not even 24 hours), you will still have like roughly 80% and play around bit and next day afternoon and it still has 60% or something...
i basically try to test the phone in light use or mostly idle..
it basically the best so far i have tried (i just used 3~5 different builds)
i dont know how to check the standby ma as i saw someone said use battery status but i downloaded it and it does not provide much details but only
light usage left: 34:12h
normal usage left: 15:12h
heavy usage left: 7:36h
constant usage left: 3:48h
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There is no "most powersaving" build. It always depends on various things you have done. Also I think those numbers are just an average, they don't have to be right.
When I leave my phone in standy at 100% battery it stays about 2 days in standby before it reaches under 5%. Just a tip, never let your phone running android run out of battery. I have heard this may cause corruptions of your data.img file.
- J
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aladdinaladdin said:
i dont know how to check the standby ma as i saw someone said use battery status but i downloaded it and it does not provide much details but only
light usage left: 34:12h
normal usage left: 15:12h
heavy usage left: 7:36h
constant usage left: 3:48h
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You have to check this with current widget. It's for free in the market. Set the intervall to 1 min. And remember: It's not an app, it's just a widget.
If you got a standby drain of < 10mA you're a happy guy
As I never tried much builds because I like mine with Sense, I have to say I don't know about the battery lifes of others, but as I heard and seen, should mattc have a very good battery life.
Watch my setup in my signature.
I've installed SetCPU and some profiles. I recommend using the conservative governor, seems the best so far. With data enabled I get a standby drain of about 5mA, so my phone lasts without any problems for 2 days in standby.
hihi may i ask what is your standby ma? <10ma?
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You have to check this with current widget. It's for free in the market. Set the intervall to 1 min. And remember: It's not an app, it's just a widget.
If you got a standby drain of < 10mA you're a happy guy
As I never tried much builds because I like mine with Sense, I have to say I don't know about the battery lifes of others, but as I heard and seen, should mattc have a very good battery life.
Watch my setup in my signature.
I've installed SetCPU and some profiles. I recommend using the conservative governor, seems the best so far. With data enabled I get a standby drain of about 5mA, so my phone lasts without any problems for 2 days in standby.
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I wanted to start this thread so we could all share our findings with apps and widgets that kill our batteries either due to things like, poor coding design or ridiculously high resource requirements! I recommend using a app called BatterBatteryStats (find it in the market, all one word) this can show you apps and widgets that may be keeping your phone from entering deep sleep mode (Wake Locks) and chewing up all your battery!!
List of offenders:
Weather Toggle & Widgets - Even tho I have the weather refresh interval set to 6 hours. Over an 8 hour period this widget run over 3000 times and was running for 25+ mins total (refreshing weather and location data) when my phone was supposed to be sleeping.
Alternative - Fancy Widgets can get H7C clock skin without the battery drain
Juice Defender - This and many other "Battery Saver" apps often drain your battery more then they actually save. This is due to its process monitoring your phone usage. Juice Defender drinks about 0.8% battery per hour. Which doesn't sound like much but after a 12 hour day that's almost 10% of your battery!! - Thanks yz.hd
Please reply with any offending apps/wigets that you find and your analysis. I will do my best to place them in the first post.
Do not use "battery savers".
For example Juice defender. It uses your battery more than it saves.
What it does is simply disabling wifi and data when you are not using it, but to know when to do this, it has to be running in the background all the time.
So, if you want to save battery life, remember to disable wifi/data/bt yourself. It will save a lot of battery juice
My findings have only been one so far , I loved g alarm on windows mobile , well for android it consumed at a constant rate 99 percent CPU . Yeah uninstall and plus one to any task killer or battery saver .
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elesbb said:
My findings have only been one so far , I loved g alarm on windows mobile , well for android it consumed at a constant rate 99 percent CPU . Yeah uninstall and plus one to any task killer or battery saver .
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I tried testing g alarm and couldnt recreate your problem. I didn't get high cpu usage or any wake locks. I was using this version of g alarm. Is this the same one you used?
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I tried testing g alarm and couldnt recreate your problem. I didn't get high cpu usage or any wake locks. I was using this version of g alarm. Is this the same one you used?
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Yes . I used system tuner pro task manager to see the CPU usage . It like never went below 80 I now use alarm clock extreme and love it .
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