Hi all
I expirence a strange problem I can't really explain to my self.
For two weeks now my XDA looses battery quiet rapid. I goes from 100% downto 25% in a matter of 8 hours... this hasn't been the case before.
I tried to do a hardreset and this fixed the problem for a new days, now it appeared again.
The standby problem is only when the phone is turn on, but I do have good network coverage, so the phone is not always searching or something. I don't have GPRS connected, no bluetooth or something and didn't install new software, there are no additional tasks running in the background.
Actually I would like to wait for a german 1.72 ROM before a upgrade the nexttime ( current is 1.60 )
Does anybody has an idea ????
Help is greatly appreciated !!!!
Alex
Hi Alex,
i have experienced the same problem since several weeks.
I have made a hardreset, Firmware update to the actual o2 Version (1.66.01GER, 1.10.00 Radio), and so on without a better result.
I suppose that it could depend on the o2 Network.
Two weeks ago on vacation in foreign networks the standby time was o.k.
The o2 Hotline has no information about this phenomenon until now.
Regards
Markus
Arrgh ****...
I was in a "foreign" country for nine months... just when I came back it started...
It seems fixed after a hardreset for a day or so, then it starts again...
I tried this new ROM, it's simply horrible, was totaly unstable, I switch back to 1.60.
I also thought I could be related to the network... this would not be good.
I am here in the office on the boarder of my homezone, someday I have homezone, some not... (shouldn't be the case either )
But my other mobile also behaves strange, it switches ( with homezone indicator on !!! ) to t-mobile... even I have a strong O2 signal...
I think it's time to write a mail to customer support...
Alex
Bah... is a fantastic PDA, but I must charge the battery every 2 days...
I think is normal...
I had to recharge very second day... that's normal if you use your pda...
but we are talking about 8hours and less without using it !!!
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Try switching on flight mode and see if it is better.
One thing I learned but not sure if it is scientific: don't xray scan your phone/pda when passing customs. My Siemems phone started behaving cranky when it gets scanned.
Lastly, if still as bad, suggest you send in to check it up. Hope just some problem with the battery. :roll:
Thanks.. but as I have allready written... when I turn flight mode on (same as turn the phone off) the battery is OK.
It has definitvely something to do with the radio.
The phone didn't get xrayed for a while now :wink:
Interference
It doesn't have to be an X-Ray machine Bro. Any form of frequency interference can screw your Xda's radio - but usually it will get back to normal after awhile (days) unless it is subjected to severe exposures.
What you can try to do is to goto Start-Settings-Personal-Phone-Network.
From Preferred Networks hit Set Networks - reprioritize.
Then under Network Selection change to Manual once the Xda gets hold of a signal switch back to Automatic.
Lastly check if your Broadcast Channels is enabled - disable it.
Worked for me after hours in the OR once - oops!
Xant said:
Thanks.. but as I have allready written... when I turn flight mode on (same as turn the phone off) the battery is OK.
It has definitvely something to do with the radio.
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I have the very same problem for a few weeks now. Some more observations:
- power goes down at a rate of 1% every 12 minutes
- happens only with an O2 SIM. If I put in a D2 SIM, everything is fine
- happens with every O2 SIM - I tried three so far
- my O2 SIM works nicely in a friend's Himalaya
- bought a new battery - didn't help
- putting it right next to a speaker (so that you can hear all network activity) shows that there is not more activity than normal.
- problem is present with both 1.60ger and 1.66ger O2 firmware, with no software installed (i.e., directly after a hard reset)
I would be grateful for any tips or hints how to solve this! Also, if someone else experiences the same problem, please post here. Maybe it's a hardware problem, and the more people experience it, the easier it'll be to convince T-Mobile/O2 that there's a real problem.
Cheers
Daniel
News on this issue: I just flashed the Imate 1.72 ROM version, and at the moment it seems this resolved the problem. The 1.72 has a newer Radio ROM (version 1.14 rather than 1.10) than all 1.6x versions, so this could make the difference.
However, it is also possible that the effect is only temporarily gone, due to not having configured GPRS, SMS, whatnot for the O2 network yet, so it is too early to start partying...
And, of course, the OS is now English rather than German.
I will now leave my Himalaya alone for another few hours, just to confirm the problem is currently really gone, then I will start configuring it back to O2 settings, and add back all my software. This will take some time, as I want to check for the problem between all steps, and each check takes around one hour.
So, to all who suffer from the same problem: I suggest you wait a few more days before you upgrade. After I have finished my testing, I will post here again the results.
Let's hope 1.72 really does the trick!
Cheers
Daniel
More news: I am now pretty sure that (again) the Homezone application is at fault!
The battery drain we experience roughly matches the power consumption of the CPU when not in a sleep mode. So, it seems the Homezone application prevents the CPU to go to sleep mode.
Why that used to work, and only started happening some weeks ago, I don't know. My guess is that O2 slightly changed the way they broadcast the location info. That location info is sent every few seconds via Cell Broadcast on channel 221, and as the Homezone application has to read that, it's quite plausible that it gets woken up every few seconds (whenever a new broadcast arrives).
What surprises me, though, is that there seem to be relatively few XDA II owners on O2 who experience the problem. I will send an email to O2 support and ask them.
In the meantime, to correct the problem, uninstall the Homezone application. To do so, do the following:
- deactivate the Homezone display, using the "Homezone" program
- using the file manager of your choice, go to the Windows directory, find the file "OHZ.dll", and rename it to whatever you like. This step is important!
- soft reset your XDA II
- go to "Einstellungen" -> "System" -> "Programme entfernen", and remove the program called "V2R Homezone"
- with your file manager, go to the Windows directory again and remove the renamed OHZ.dll file. If there is still a directory called "Windows\V2R\HZ", remove that also.
Of course, you lose the Homezone display. But you get full battery life back!
Cheers
Daniel
Okay, I'm trying to find out why not everybody on the German O2 network is affected.
Alex and Markus: I opened a thread for this over in the PPC-Welt forum, see here.
You are invited to come over and participate! If you are not interested, could you please let me know where exactly you are located? I live in Munich, and it might be that O2 misconfigured just a few base stations here in the south of Germany so that the Homezone application behaves erratically.
Thanks!
Daniel
Hi Tazido
Fu#$%^&*( is it really because it move to munich... arrgh.
I do live in Starnberg, but I spend the weekend in Ludwigshafen and here everything was OK.
Xant said:
Hi Tazido
Fu#$%^&*( is it really because it move to munich... arrgh.
I do live in Starnberg, but I spend the weekend in Ludwigshafen and here everything was OK.
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As mentioned in a post in that other forum, everybody who is affected should call the O2 hotline and report this as a "network problem", to raise O2's awareness of the situation.
For the moiment, uninstalling the Homezone app is the best you can do. :-(
Cheers
Daniel
I did uninstall the O2 Homezone app.
I tried to mail to O2 but this seems not to work for some reason, I get a 403 error.
About calling the hotline, I have to pay for this, as I switch to the web-based contract with the free SMS, so as long as i doesn't get worse I can live...
Alex
Hello all,
I've used this i-mate PPC PE on T-Mobile USA network for over a year now with no major problems. About five days ago, I noticed that I didn't get some scheduled messages on time. I checked the phone and it showed 3-4 bars of signal strength. I tried calling the voice mail, and the call didn't get through. The phone seemed to be dialing as usual, but it never connected. After soft-resetting the phone, it got back onto the network. This situation repeated several times. It cannot make even 12 hours without hanging like this. Going into flight mode and back brings it back to life. The only change I made last week was to add some photo contacts (never used this feature before). I wonder if anyone else ever experienced this type of problem. It seems like either the radio module gets stuck or maybe something is wrong on the provider's side. Please let me know of your thoughts.
Best regards,
Andrew
Wow...the 8125 really drives me nuts alot of the time...
I work in a hospital where there are alot of places where you lose signal quickly, which can be expected. However what is not expected is when I come back after being in a no signal area to an area where I would normally have full signal strength...and all I get is that damned antenae symbol with "..." after it like it's searching for a bloody signal.
This just makes me irate as I can stand outside for SEVERAL minutes (often having to restart the phone before it will understand that there's now a signal) before it will just randomly pop up saying that I not have full reception.
I'm using the latest official 2.25 rom and I don't really feel like changing again (this is about the 6th rom in 4 weeks and it has been a problem with EVERY rom I've used). Is there a program out there that will tell my moronic 8125, "Hey there dip$hit! There actualy IS a signal here so look for the damn thing RIGHT NOW!" It would be nice to have a button I could stick on SPB Today Screen and just hit whenever it was "searching" to make it ACTUALLY SEARCH...b/c the signal is there.
Any help here?
I have a T-Mo MDA and the solution I've read here is to change to manual network selection and choose Cingular. That should speed up re-acquiring the signal.
Thanks for the advice...but...ermm...I can't find that setting...
I thought it was in Settings->Phone->Network. But in the official 2.25 rom, all I see there is "Current Network: Cingular" and a "Find Networks" button underneath it that just reconnects to Cingular whenever tapped.
Any direction?
Thanks.
Stangs55 said:
Wow...the 8125 really drives me nuts alot of the time...
I work in a hospital where there are alot of places where you lose signal quickly, which can be expected. However what is not expected is when I come back after being in a no signal area to an area where I would normally have full signal strength...and all I get is that damned antenae symbol with "..." after it like it's searching for a bloody signal.
This just makes me irate as I can stand outside for SEVERAL minutes (often having to restart the phone before it will understand that there's now a signal) before it will just randomly pop up saying that I not have full reception.
I'm using the latest official 2.25 rom and I don't really feel like changing again (this is about the 6th rom in 4 weeks and it has been a problem with EVERY rom I've used). Is there a program out there that will tell my moronic 8125, "Hey there dip$hit! There actualy IS a signal here so look for the damn thing RIGHT NOW!" It would be nice to have a button I could stick on SPB Today Screen and just hit whenever it was "searching" to make it ACTUALLY SEARCH...b/c the signal is there.
Any help here?
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I have the same problem with the length of time it takes to get a sign back. I actually posted a few days ago and have not gotten a response. I will keep an eye on this thread but if you get a PM with a solution or figure something out can you please drop me a line.
Thanks
I really wish someone would figure out a way around cingular blocking us from manually selecting networks!!
This is a problem all over the place!
Phone can not get a signal, put it on charge yesterday and when I awoke or as soon after as I can remember noticing it was searching for a signal. Took it work to try another area still nothing. took out sim card and gave it a blow, when I restarted I got a request for a code? never seen this before, AHA turns out the trial for Bandswitch had expired, uninstalled thinking might be culprit? Its made no difference, just think it was a coincidence. Looked in bootloader no GSM displayed, downgraded Radio ROM to 2.47, still nothing. Think it's dead.
Anybody any ideas, or service centres in Stoke-on-Trent area.
Edit:- Turns out it's an O2 problem? suspended my sim? can connect know but still haven't got all my account stuff sorted.