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Am i the only one who thinks all cases are rubbish, the device is perfect size wise but not safe to use everyday in its undressed condition as i dont want to damage the screen. Screen protectors i have tried are crap to fit and look awful on with air bubbles ever where. Cases make the device too bulky and hard to use, HP have the best solution with the plastic flip screen that goes over the top of the screen like the 6500 series so you dont get marks all over the screen when using the phone and it protects the unit when its in your pocket without taking up much space, why cant we have one of those on this device it would be the perfect solution

You can't have it all
The five hundred euro I paid for the Wizard does not come by easy and thats why I use the case to protect my investment.

manufacture one, or have one manufactured
There's a small indentation around the screen where a very thing plastic protector could fit. Or you could put it against the screen if you're careful enough not to let anything get inbetween :> Problem is, where would you make it hinge - and where would you attach/clip the hinge to the wizard? I'm not really spotting any convenient place to do so (forget about the antenna / anything at the back - remember that the screen slides out from the bottom area with the keyboard). Can't clip it over the top area, as you'll obscure the buttons, the speaker and the LEDs (though you could keep an eopening for the last two, you can't really have an opening for the keys as that would make the construction very fragile).

Zagg Invisible Shield Review

Well, I among many other moaned and complained there was not Treo Pro forum so I am now celebrating this with legitimate contributions.
Well, anyway I went ahead and as always bought myself a Zagg Invisible Shield for my Treo Pro which arrived late last week. It was a few more pieces than I am used too as my iPod only required two pieces (front and back). This unit actually comes with a screen protector, a back piece, a piece for the palm logo, a piece for both the calendar as well as mail buttons, a strip for both the left side and right side and finally a small piece to go in between the power button and the silencer switch.
So as you may have noticed from the above it is a bit more complicated then an average screen protector. However I will not use a device that I spent $500 on without serious protection so I went head first into the install.
As always after carefully and tirelessly installing the device I continue my love hate relationship with the invisible shield. They are phenomenal in the sense that the parts that install correctly are truly invisible and provide amazing and tough protection for your device.
However my only dislike with the product stems from the fact that literally I spent 30 minutes installing the shield and it still is far from perfect. The toughest air bubbles never go away, some pieces will apply and do not seal on the device perfectly and there simply is no way to get it stick perfectly. Also my biggest gripe stems from the fact that the back piece has the palm logo cut out from it, which makes sense until you realize sliding the phone in and out of your pocket can drag on that making it less and less of a tight seal. On top of that a gripe with all invisible shields is that dust, and lint from your pocket inevitably sticks to every crevasse of the device.
Well long story short it may be hard to tell but I actually really like the shield. It serves its purpose nicely and as a hole it lets the device still be beautiful and shiny (even more so believe it or not) and because of the material does not attract fingerprints at all. Which as many may agree is worth the price of admission alone!
Well if anyone has any invisible shield questions feel free to ask, also I have an extra 20% coupon to go around for anyone who may be interested in picking one up. First come first serve however!

I also just installed the Invisible Shield on my Pro. I had the same struggles (I love how they say to put the piece in place and slide it around to get it to fit - once its in place you cant move it!). In fact, I haven't put on the small pieces for the edge because I thought they would be the hardest. I was able to get the back piece on without a bubble and got all the corners to stick down! It looks great.
Like you, I have a love/hate relationship with Zagg's or their competitor's shields. But they are the best protection for your device possible. I have dropped other devices on bare concrete without even leaving a mark on the shield. I was extremely careful with my Pro before getting the shield on.
My only worry is the screen protector fits nicely inside the lip around the edge of the case, but doesn't overlap it any. If something hits that edge just right, it may mark up the Treo. Oh well, nothing's perfect and I couldn't leave my Pro unprotected any longer.
One thumb up for Invisible Shields.

Love it
Just installed on my TP as well as my wife's Curve. The larger pieces were great, all went on without a hitch. I chose not to install the smaller side pieces, at least for now.
To look at the TP sitting on the table, you'd never know there was a protective coating at all. It's absolutely invisible.
I was surprised to find that the stuff is much more rubbery feeling than I expected. It just feels softer, somehow, than I had expected after looking at the Zagg website.

I just installed the zaggs on my treo this weekend and three really nice things that I have to point out first is the rubbery feel as stated in an earlier post, I don't feel like the phone is gonna slip out of my hands. 2nd is i have about 90 percent less finger prints on my phone now. The 3rd thing is my opinion and it's that I feel the touchscreen is so much more responsive. I would like to see if any one feels the same thing that I stated in the latter.

Last weekend I applied the shield to my TP and I am very impressed. There are two small points where the shield didn't stick properly (on the corners on the back, I probably didn't align things precise enough), but apart from that you hardly see it. I also like the "rubbery" feel of it. Gives the TP a nice grip.
Just a tip for people who are going to install the invisible shield: make sure to apply plenty of spray on the sticky side of the shield. I found out that then you get no air bubbles and you are able to slide it like advertised. After half a minute or so the shield will start to stick and dry beautifully.

Can someone post Pictures of their Treo's with the Shield installed?

Agree - it's good
Everyone - like others have said, I applied the invisible shield to my TP last evening and it looks great and I love the fact it doesn't feel like it is going to slip out of my hands when I handle it. I just applied the back and front pieces - didn't bother with the side pieces. Would definitely recommend it to others and as one blogger said - plenty of spray works the best.

seeing some pics on the raphael thread, it kinda makes the raphael look a bit 'plasticky' and cheap.
do you guys think this is so, or is it 'invisible'...

wanwarlock said:
seeing some pics on the raphael thread, it kinda makes the raphael look a bit 'plasticky' and cheap.
do you guys think this is so, or is it 'invisible'...
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If you get it put on correctly, then it truly is almost 'invisible'. I used lots of solution and pateince and am happy with the result. i would say it perhaps has a 'plasticky' feel (which i like - no longer feel like it's going to slip out of my hands every time i use it), but doesn't look that way.

does it decrease touch screens sensitivity compared to factory given screens? And would it cause it hard to write with a stylus? like sticky?

Get PhantomSkinz instead of Invisible Shield. Protects better and isn't sticky on the outside like the Invisible Shield.

I've gotten a zagg for my past 3 devices (HTC Touch, Samsung Ace, Treo 755)
I've never had a sticky problem. I've been quite happy with them, so I just bought one this morning for my Treo Pro... I'll let you know if i get a sticky one.

IS are having a tax day sale. use code "TAXRELIEF" on checkout & get 30% off. valid till 21/4/09.
tbh, still think they are expensive...

Update
Just browsing through and forgot I even opened this thread. I have to give my update as things stand now.
I would say after heavy usage the invisible shield holds up great. The parts that get beat up the most and will accumulate dust in the corners. The part that covers the screen has held up perfectly and looks just as good as I put it on day one. I feel it is way more responsive and it doesn't pick up finger prints.

I just put mine on this weekend and it went very smoothly and looks great. It certainly isn't sticky on the outside... I think the poster with that problem might have put it on backwards.
I really appreciate the added grip, as the treopro without skin was so slippery I nearly dropped the phone quite a few times.

DssTrainer said:
I just put mine on this weekend and it went very smoothly and looks great. It certainly isn't sticky on the outside... I think the poster with that problem might have put it on backwards.
I really appreciate the added grip, as the treopro without skin was so slippery I nearly dropped the phone quite a few times.
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Hmmm. Added grip but it's not sticky.

well sticky and added grip are different.. and in this case the grip is a feature.

I gave IS a try and I can't say I was too thrilled about it. It has it's pros and cons which i'll list below.
Pros:
1. The material provides a nice grip, the phone feels secure in your hands.
2. IF you get every piece put on perfect it's somewhat invisible.
3. The material does provide the best protection against scratches.
4. If you have a touch screen phone it works great with the stylus....only.
Cons:
1. The material does have an orange peel look to it when the light hits it, not a huge deal.
2. If you don't get every piece (8 for the treo pro) put on perfect it can be noticeable and not all that great to look at.
3. Lint sticks to ALL of the edges of each piece you install.. all 8 pieces. The "Invisible" shield isn't so invisible anymore.
4. I'd rate IS a 1/10 when it comes to finger friendly on the screen. once you press hard enough with your finger or your finger nail to drag an item your finger will stutter, and not move smoothly. The OS will now think your clicking on several parts of the screen and it can be extremely frustrating.
I'm not trying to bash IS but I personally did not like it on my treo pro. On the other hand, if I ever have a NON touch screen phone in the future I may consider it. I ended up sending my IS back about 3 weeks after using it and replaced it with the Seidio Innocase II I also wrote a review on the Innocase II which you can read Here

Yes, Invisible Shield blows. Phantom Skinz have all of the same protection but without the orange peel and without the sticky, dragging feeling when you push on it.

fungflex said:
Well, I among many other moaned and complained there was not Treo Pro forum so I am now celebrating this with legitimate contributions.
Well, anyway I went ahead and as always bought myself a Zagg Invisible Shield for my Treo Pro which arrived late last week. It was a few more pieces than I am used too as my iPod only required two pieces (front and back). This unit actually comes with a screen protector, a back piece, a piece for the palm logo, a piece for both the calendar as well as mail buttons, a strip for both the left side and right side and finally a small piece to go in between the power button and the silencer switch.
So as you may have noticed from the above it is a bit more complicated then an average screen protector. However I will not use a device that I spent $500 on without serious protection so I went head first into the install.
As always after carefully and tirelessly installing the device I continue my love hate relationship with the invisible shield. They are phenomenal in the sense that the parts that install correctly are truly invisible and provide amazing and tough protection for your device.
However my only dislike with the product stems from the fact that literally I spent 30 minutes installing the shield and it still is far from perfect. The toughest air bubbles never go away, some pieces will apply and do not seal on the device perfectly and there simply is no way to get it stick perfectly. Also my biggest gripe stems from the fact that the back piece has the palm logo cut out from it, which makes sense until you realize sliding the phone in and out of your pocket can drag on that making it less and less of a tight seal. On top of that a gripe with all invisible shields is that dust, and lint from your pocket inevitably sticks to every crevasse of the device.
Well long story short it may be hard to tell but I actually really like the shield. It serves its purpose nicely and as a hole it lets the device still be beautiful and shiny (even more so believe it or not) and because of the material does not attract fingerprints at all. Which as many may agree is worth the price of admission alone!
Well if anyone has any invisible shield questions feel free to ask, also I have an extra 20% coupon to go around for anyone who may be interested in picking one up. First come first serve however!
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Hey can you send me the coupon on [email protected] I want to buy it for mt HTC Touch Pro...
Thanks in advance

Capdase + Seidio = $$ = Ultimate Case??

Like the look & feel of a "simple" black leather case, but do NOT like the idea of covering the keyboard with a sheath of plastic (poor feel & seems bound to age poorly) - and so ended up with a Capdase BiFold Leather Case for my Fuze.
Posted pictures & problems with this case earlier, including some Surgery we performed to alleviate Case/Screen interaction. But while the surgery did Help, it did NOT eliminate the problem.
ALSO got concerned about reports of the top LAMINATE lifting off from the lower (button) area of TouchPros. As my screen protector has fallen prey to a similar lifting, having the laminate come up seems at least Possible.
Decided that what was needed was a cover for the TOP of the Fuze - one that would add as little bulk as possible, while both protecting the edges of the unit and providing a bit of separation between the screen and the top flap of the Capdase case (which would sometimes (RE)DIAL the phone at the end of a call! Nice trick if you could control it... )
Ended up buying a Seidio Innocase, which others have reviewed: it does indeed "fit like a glove" - wonderful precision, a nice feel, & leaves plenty of room around the actual Touch portion of the screen. (Carried the Fuze for several days in just the Seidio, but did not like the Exposed Screen.)
The combo of the Capdase BiFold Leather + the TOP HALF of the Innnocase seems to work perfectly: the edges are protected, the screen is protected, the Capdase fits nice & tight against the Seidio (which also provides a bit more protection for the top corners of the Fuze), and there has been no more Accidental Dialing (or Disconnects!).
Combination is obviously Not Cheap (think total came to around $55, incl Shipping Costs), but it IS flexible: can always remove Fuze from the Capdase & snap the Innocase back cover on if a SLIM profile is required.
The Combination fits nicely into an inner jacket / coat pocket (where a tri-fold wallet might fit), and also does well in the top pocket of an Over Shirt (Safari, jean, or wool - as long as pocket has a Closure of some kind!)
A few pictures are attached (hopefully...)

Can never pay too much for protection on our phones. Looking good!

might as well put the phone back in the box it came with and seal it tight so it'll never be scratched. jk

might as well put the phone back in the box it came with and seal it tight so it'll never be scratched
Indeed, the "naked" approach has some arguments in its favor - particularly if ALL you are carrying is just "a phone."
A Phone is relatively inexpensive & readily replaceable: My Razr never saw the inside of a case - but it certainly looked Well Used by the time it was replaced with the Fuze. (At only 16 months or so of usage.)
My Axim (PDA) has never been WITHOUT a case: it has served for over three times as long as the Razr did (and is now approaching 5 years in service), and only in past 6-months or so has it exhibited any outward signs of wear ("chrome" plating on D-pad & "DELL" logo are wearing off). OTOH, have been through numerous screen protectors, and the Daily Carry case (a RhinoSkin) looks like it has been through a war zone: in essence, the screen protectors and the case have 'sacrificed' themselves for the safety of the Axim - and the invaluable data stored within.
My Fuze is PDA FIRST, and Phone second. Like the Axim, I hope to keep the Fuze running for at least 4 years (hopefully longer!), and do not look upon it as Readily Disposable - like A Phone would be. Therefore a good case seems a very worthwhile investment, albeit one that is made more difficult by a) the dual purpose nature of the Fuze (it may be Phone Second, but it DOES still function as a phone), and b) the Sliding Keyboard.
For those who view the Fuze as simply a Fancy Phone - AND have the wherewithal to replace it every couple of years - a case is undoubtedly either a Nuisance or merely a Fashion Statement.
But for others, choosing a good case seems to be a reasonably important decision - otherwise there would not be nearly as many posts on the subject as there are...

well to each their own I guess, I generally change phones every 12 months or so. I guess I cant justify using a case to cover the phone

Kursell Case
This case is ok I own but I like my Kursell orbit Flex Case a lot better the flip leather lid Comes off thats so great plus I love the tight plastic over the keyboard the best case I ever seen
http://www.sfplanet.com/product/753...ex_with_Ratchet_Swivel_Clip_Black__Beige.html

This case is ok ... but I like my Kursell orbit Flex Case a lot better the flip leather lid Comes off thats so great plus I love the tight plastic over the keyboard....
There are several nice looking cases available - the Kursell is one & Pdair makes a couple, although recall looking at others as well - that utilize the Plastic Sheath Over The Keyboard approach. Looked long & hard at several of these, as (like the Kursell) some have a very elegant look!
Unfortunately could not get past the plastic sheath. This strays into "personal preference" territory, but
1) Dislike the "feel" of the plastic on top of the keyboard;
2) A plastic sheath seems to force the two layers of the Fuze apart. That should vary with the type of plastic used: if I hold the Fuze up to a bright background it APPEARS that the gap between the halves should be adequate for a precisely THIN sheet... Overall fit of the Lower part of the case might have an impact here as well, but that's hard to gauge without buying Every Case on the market...
3) Was concerned that the plastic would not WEAR well, given sufficient usage. Yellowing, becoming ratty at the edges, & stretching all seem likely.
Case selection is like PIM choice: Personal Preferences play a major role in product selection, and there are multiple Solutions that are equally viable according to the preference of the end user.
Slip case, or Attached case?
Belt Clip, or Not? (Detachable, or Not? Rotating or Fixed?...)
Leather, Metal, Silicone, Hard Rubber, Or ??
Removable Top Cover (Kursell) or Permanently Attached?
Holders for data cards, styli, Other Things?
Have LOVED the RhinoSkin that has served as the Daily Carry Case for my Axim. But it is an Industrial looking piece of hardware - rather clunky & now somewhat beat up in appearance. So also have a nice (Belkin) Leather case that I use for "need a suit jacket" events.
Frankly - along similar lines - can imagine times where I might forego the extra protection of the Capdase and simply carry the Fuze in the Innocase, as it certainly presents less bulk when in the Seidio...
Options are Nice, but trying TOO many gets expensive!

Looking to also purchase the seidio innocase, but before I do can ppl confirm if it gives problems on pushing on the screen. Have had such cases that seem okay for a few weeks, but then the screen becomes unresponsive due to the case pushing on the touch portion of the screen.
Thanks

Anyone tried this Sheild?

I was browsing through the net and came across this invisible sheild. Looks good. Has anyone tired this?
What do u guys think it will work?
http://www.zagg.com/invisibleshield...es-screen-protectors-covers-skins-shields.php

I have it on my Hermes and like it for the most part. I like how they have a lifetime warranty on it. The downside is that it collects dust on the edges at times and installation isn't so fun (although i would assume it to be a lot easier for the X1 since it is more of a geometric figure).

I think its a must for the X1 specially the black ones which are having a issue of color giving away.
My concern was has anyone installed it on the x1?
How easy is it?
Does it get a good finishing?

Generally the Invisible Shield provides great protection against small bangs and is certainly scratch proof. I have previously applied to an iPod Touch and to an Omnia and they both covered the entire surface area of the device. I was slightly surprised to find some areas, albeit very small areas to the side of the X1, were not covered by the skin. This, however, is pretty insignificant and all the main areas are well protected including the screen. I have read on other forums that the sizing of the the screen protector has caused some people problems but with a bit of manipulation, it fits perfectly under the rim of the case. Installation can be a bit fiddly but providing you use the included squeegee, any air bubbles or slight discrepancies disappear in a couple of days when the application liquid dries out.
I love the slightly 'rubbery' feel as it helps grip and I think it also feels nice on tactile for the stylus on the screen.
All in all, to be recommended.

I have read of a few problems with this particular shield, the lettering ripped off the back when trying to fix or replace the plastic... pain in the rear to put on etc, if I can find the links I will post them later...

Wrong thread!

moleculez said:
I was browsing through the net and came across this invisible sheild. Looks good. Has anyone tired this?
What do u guys think it will work?
http://www.zagg.com/invisibleshield...es-screen-protectors-covers-skins-shields.php
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Read first and then post!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=472 (see poll)

jorge999
thanks for your help? Also wanted to know if there are chances of the liquid used at the time of installation to spoil the phone?
Also does the corners of the shield start to open up after a prolonged used? Pics please if u can. ALso the rubbery feeling does it stick to the inside of your pocket when u try to remove the phone. I remember those silicon covers (famously known as C0nd0m covers) which flooded the market a few years ago.
Lokatho
Bro we are not talking about screen protector. We are talking about a entire phone shield poll?

dont even THINKING about getting the invisible shield from Zagg.
check the reviews and multiples negative thoughts and pics after it was applied.
http://www.inxperia.com/forums/accessories/527-do-not-waste-your-money-invisible-shield.html

NO
I definately wouldn't stick anything like this to the body of my phone and am even hesitant to stick shields to my screen but have done anyway.
I decided to go for a crystal case. The first time I have used one and normally preferred silicon cases.
The last silicon case is the one currently on my iPhone and although it protects from slight scratches (coins etc on the back) it does nothing for dropping it.
The silicon simply compressed when the phone hit the floor and it got a nice deep scratch on the corner just as if it had had no cover.
I put the screenshield I got for the iphone on my xperia instead and bought this crystal case.
It's a nice fit, holds nicely, everything is nicely accessible and it seems sturdy.
I havn't dropped the phone yet so can't comment on its performance in this circumstance but i'm sure i will find out son enough.
Problem with the logos is that they are printed onto the paint which in turn is painted on to the metal. Before my crystal case I already have a few parts where the black paint on the battery cover has scratched off.
Crystal case pros: cheap, sturdy, effective, easy to apply and remove.
Crystal case: Cons: Lots of dust gets under them so if you want your phone to look nice you need to take it off and wash it regularly.

moleculez said:
jorge999
thanks for your help? Also wanted to know if there are chances of the liquid used at the time of installation to spoil the phone?
Also does the corners of the shield start to open up after a prolonged used? Pics please if u can. ALso the rubbery feeling does it stick to the inside of your pocket when u try to remove the phone. I remember those silicon covers (famously known as C0nd0m covers) which flooded the market a few years ago.
Lokatho
Bro we are not talking about screen protector. We are talking about a entire phone shield poll?
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The complete shield is also discussed in the poll-thread and in other threads in the Sony Ericsson Xperia X1 Accesoires subforum, because that is where this belongs......
Not to diss you, just to be helpfull....

I try invisible shield on silver X1,i was surprised tat the front part of the phone doesnt cover wif the shield cos the package don come wif tat but anyway it was well protected,nice n i m pleased wif it

Screen Protector

Can someone please tell me how to apply the screen protector that comes with the phone as it's just a large piece of clear plastic with no instructions how to physically attach it to the display!

It has a peel away backing which is much thinner than the protector.
I struggled to find how this attached when I got mine and have since put hair and smudges on the sticky backing. Can't wait for the new ones to come online mid May.

It's a sticker that you stick on the screen. How hard is this?!

Just put it on. Work cleanly though, be prepared and do it right the first time.

Bend the corner of the big part slightly and the two parts seperate
The part that goes onto the backing bit is what goes on screen
start from the top and smooth it down
As mentioned, work in a clean/dust free environment!
I've done it many times but even this time round, I got fluff inside - just one spec thinking as it was brand new out of the box, it wouldnt have anything on the screen and so I wouldnt need to clean it !
In removing the protector to clean it out... I ruined it
Got my new Brando one the other day which feels a bit more stronger and durable but still clear so I'll be putting that on later tonight
And now I have a air can with me too so if I get anything in the way, I can blow it out rather than trying to scrape it out

I've now put on the screen protector that came with the phone, but it feels a little thin and flimsy.
I'd like to know people's opinion of other aftermarket brands of protector for this phone as I'd like to get something a bit better quality.

Same thoughts here too
I ordered a pair from HTC direct but I think looking at them now that I have them, they are the same as the originals so I will probably not bother using them
I also have the Brando version now - Not opened yet but I will open and apply it to my phone tomorrow evening - just need a dust-free environment to test it
Apparently, Brando boast they have the best protectors so lets see
It does feel a lot stronger than the original

akash_84 said:
Same thoughts here too
I ordered a pair from HTC direct but I think looking at them now that I have them, they are the same as the originals so I will probably not bother using them
I also have the Brando version now - Not opened yet but I will open and apply it to my phone tomorrow evening - just need a dust-free environment to test it
Apparently, Brando boast they have the best protectors so lets see
It does feel a lot stronger than the original
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Did you try this new Brando screen protector, and if so, is it any good?
Also, has anyone else had any experience of after-market screen protectors for this phone?

OK I applied mine today - sorry for the delay but I was just waiting for a time I could be patient !
I ordered it from HTCDirect as they are the only ones that had in stock
Recieved it promptly the next day so Kudos to them on that...also the guy I kept in touch with over email (Carlos if I remember correctly) was great and prompt in my queries.
My main query was - does it have the SAME fitment as the original bundled one.
As you know, the bundled one covers the entire screen including the slider for zoom and camera
The answer was Yes, it was exactly the same fitment.
So when I opened the pack, I was a bit annoyed as it was clearly NOT the same fitment! It's close however, but the top of the camera where on the HTC is all the way round with a small hole for the camera, the Brando one is in a U shape leaving the top bit of the camera open.
OK onto application
Just like all Brando protectors, it is protected by two covers on either end with clear instructions - pull one side BEFORE application and the other AFTER application
Once the dust was off the screen and the original protector...
I did just this - and after several attempts of lining it up - and I note, it is very EXACT in lining up. Slightly out and you will have more black on one side from the screen than the other.
Peeled it off, applied it and smoothed it out - the latter bit was hardly needed as the bubbles just vanished which was great.
At this state, the protector looked smoked a little and not as clear as the original one.
Once I was happy, I peeled the top part - noticed one bubble near the end where the label to peel was, smoothed it out and the protector was as clear as the original one.
First impressions:
It does feel MUCH more durable
It has a very slight and I mean SLIGHT smoked affect in that it is not 100% transparent as the original one but this shows how good it is potentially in strength.
Usage is fine, I can glide over it with my finger and stylus without any issues. The original was a finger print magnet but this seems to not stain with it which is great.
Now the downside....
I think HTCDirect sent me a slightly duff one. It has clearly got markings on the top (once the top layer was off) which look like impact marks.
It is very tiny - almost like what happens to a screen without a protector after 12months
I'm not too fussed but feel a bit cheated. Its no use removing it now as I would have no protector on it during the replacement stages - not to metion I would have to pay to ship back etc.
For now, I am ok with it but if it bugs me, I will throw it away and put the original one on (I ordered 2 extras from Clove who as usual, got it to me instantly, good communications and speed in delivery).
The clove one has no marks at all so thats an option.
Hope this answers some of your questions but to summarise your question
Is it stronger?
Yes it is
Is it worth it?
If you can get one mark free - yes it is
Benefits?
It's re-usable, stronger, washable, and I notice it does not let as much light reflect of it - something I had huge problems with in the sunlight with the original one where I could not see the screen - I am not exaggerating!
Downsides?
Where I got mine from, it has marks on it - something that might just force me to remove it and go back to the original one
Also the camera does not go in a O shape but rather a U shape

OK during the submit button, I realsed the marks and the U shape was bugging me too much
I knew it was a matter of time that gap in the U would get clogged up with dust that would eventually get stuck around the U bit
Removed it and applied the original one I bought from Clove... I have two so if it does wear down, I can replace it
I know from experiance that the original one in the box that I applied lasted fine up till now (a month now since I've had my TD2) so I dont doubt that it will be worn out - May not last as long as Brando's guarantee of it outlasting te device but that's fine given the price of the HTC ones.
Applied it without any dust getting trapped (the main reason I had to buy these and the brando one)
I found those marks were actually dust that was already stuck under the protective layer - whether this is HTCDirects fault or Brando during factory release - who knows but I think as a lesson, I'm staying away from both and sticking to the original stuff.
Hope you make the right decision either way - for now, a brando goes into the bin

akash_84 said:
Bend the corner of the big part slightly and the two parts seperate
The part that goes onto the backing bit is what goes on screen
start from the top and smooth it down
As mentioned, work in a clean/dust free environment!
I've done it many times but even this time round, I got fluff inside - just one spec thinking as it was brand new out of the box, it wouldnt have anything on the screen and so I wouldnt need to clean it !
In removing the protector to clean it out... I ruined it
Got my new Brando one the other day which feels a bit more stronger and durable but still clear so I'll be putting that on later tonight
And now I have a air can with me too so if I get anything in the way, I can blow it out rather than trying to scrape it out
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damnit, didn't pay enough attention to dust & co...so after i saw that i catched a few dust pieces under it, i've tried to get them out manually - big mistake.
so trashed the original one and waiting for the new brando to put it on. being a former iphone-user, i must admit that the diamond2 screen is pretty sensible to scratches. i thought that i won't be needing any protection, but i already have a few small ones...so a screen protection is a must-have now.

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I should have read this thread before I tried to apply my screen protector. Straight away I had dust underneath the screen protector. Obviously I will now have to order some more protectors but will I be alright using my phone until they arrive? How delicate is the td2 screen?

You'll be fine using it while its there - just be annoying to see the dust specs!
I ordered a pair of the original ones in the end as I was not happy at all with the premium Brando one - the look, feel and visibility was terrible
Reason I ordered 2 of the original ones is I was hearing rumours before the unit was even released that the original HTC one was not durable and would need to be replaced after x amount of months - having had mine for 4-5 months now and with heavy usage, I can report back to say the first protector of the two is still on there - still very clean with no stylus/finger/nail marks and still as durable as it was when I put it first on.

arsenal84 said:
I should have read this thread before I tried to apply my screen protector. Straight away I had dust underneath the screen protector. Obviously I will now have to order some more protectors but will I be alright using my phone until they arrive? How delicate is the td2 screen?
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From what other threads are saying the screen should be treated with care. Don't push it hard and avoid impacts. Don't stick the phone in your back pocket! Some people have experienced damaged screens even after a short time.

Shouldnt put any phone in your back pocket!
The number of phones I have to fix or write off because they have had severe pressure on them - ie: sitting on them has increased 5 fold recently.
And lets face it...the countries population are not getting any thinner/smaller!

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damnit, didn't pay enough attention to dust & co...so after i saw that i catched a few dust pieces under it, i've tried to get them out manually
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I know it is not recommended. but I use a small drop of water on the screen before applying the screen, wiping the water as it is squeeze out. The water takes the dust with it.

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I've applied mine that came with the Diamond 2 and after a few attempts you can't see it is there. Ironically I fits so well I almost want to put another screen protector on top of it so it doesn't become damaged and need replacing.
Anyway a tip. Working in a dust free environment is the key. A bathroom is a good place. I have a hepa air filter (for hayfever) and this removes dust really well so run that for a bit which helps.
With all the care in the world dust can get underneath, I had a few specs, and they tend to cause a small bubble as the screen screen protector can't fit flush. I found it very easy to remove them. Have some sticky tape handy, this can be used to lift up the screen protector from the corner. Lift it back up enough to get to the spec of dust, and using another piece of sticky tape dab the spec of dust off the sticky side of the protector, then lay it back down.
Regards
Phil

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It has a peel away backing which is much thinner than the protector.
I struggled to find how this attached when I got mine and have since put hair and smudges on the sticky backing. Can't wait for the new ones to come online mid May.
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I know what you mean I made an okay job of the one that came with it. The rubber case I bought of eBay came with one as well and made a right pigs ear of that. I think they need to be applied in a clean room
I've since bought some more off eBay so next time, I'm going to be a lot more careful!
Cheers, Rob.

I got 3 screen protectors with the original phone (2 of them as a gift). The first one was perfect except for a piece of fluff near the middle of the screen. I tried to remove it with a cloth(!!!) and ruined it. So I went for the second one, but at this stage the screen was not clean so I tried to use a microfibre cloth, which made it worse because it leaves even more fluff. I tried to fix it a few times and so now I have fluff inside, plus a bubble (the protector is a bit scratched) plus it doesn't stick properly on most of the sides and around the holes.
I am tempted to use the last one, but if I ruin it once more I am out of them. My biggest problem is how to clean the screen before sticking the protector. Will all the fluff come away when I remove the old protector? How can I clean the screen, knowing that the microfibre leaves fluff? Shall I blow with a can of compressed air?

I find magic tape is great for removing dust spots. Use the backing sheet to gently lift a corner then push the tape underneath to clean screen or protector as needed.
My favourite screen protectors are from Martin Fields. Really tough and easy to apply. Also, they are washable so if you do get a real dust problem you just take it off an run under the tap. Don't try that with the phone though...