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Share Pocket pc's internet to computer

How can i share my pocket pc's wifi internet to a computer via cable ?
10x in advance

hello. at first sorry for my english.
i think You can use Internet sharing,that located is in programs.
After succesfull wifi conection look in internet sharing via usb cable.
maybe that do something. good luck

freeyourmind said:
hello. at first sorry for my english.
i think You can use Internet sharing,that located is in programs.
After succesfull wifi conection look in internet sharing via usb cable.
maybe that do something. good luck
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Hi thanks for the tip. But I forgot to mention that my friend wants to do that and he has WM2003. And there's no Internet Sharing
Thanks anyway

EmZvr said:
Hi thanks for the tip. But I forgot to mention that my friend wants to do that and he has WM2003. And there's no Internet Sharing
Thanks anyway
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the wm2003 can use Bluetooth modem or usb cable while the BA in it's cradle
either will work
that or flash it to one of the wm6 roms and use WifiRouter ( that's what i do much easier to use then extra drivers and settings on teh PC )

cyberjak said:
the wm2003 can use Bluetooth modem or usb cable while the BA in it's cradle
either will work
that or flash it to one of the wm6 roms and use WifiRouter ( that's what i do much easier to use then extra drivers and settings on teh PC )
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My friend has HP RX3115 and there;s no WM6 for his pocket. So he can't use WiFiRouter :/ Any other apps ?

Pocket wifi connection to usb
Hi while looking for the same answer you did some time agoo i found a usefull link
http://www.1800pocketpc.com/2008/04...-controlling-internet-connection-sharing.html

How if i used G1
Hi there,
had a same problems but this time i used G1 instead of winmob operating system... anyone could help me how to do it on my G1, ... had to access root first ? or had to used software ? the software name ?
thanks
rick

with a question about the g1, you are pretty wrong in the blueangel section, you should ask somewhere else

Shift CarPC HUD project

hey guys, i was thinking of starting this, but i don't have a Shift (as yet) and would like to ask a few questions before i get one, hopeful that some of the guys here (please?) could help answer them
My plan is very simple - plug the shift to an external screen, invert (mirror image) that display, and point it at a reflective surface on the windscreen to create a Head Up Display. so - the questions:
1) does the external VGA port work in Windows Mobile mode?
2) does the touchpad move the mouse into the area displayed by the external port in both WM and Vista mode?
3) how long does Vista or XP take to boot up as a clean install
thx for the help in advance
jo

joetheman said:
hey guys, i was thinking of starting this, but i don't have a Shift (as yet) and would like to ask a few questions before i get one, hopeful that some of the guys here (please?) could help answer them
My plan is very simple - plug the shift to an external screen, invert (mirror image) that display, and point it at a reflective surface on the windscreen to create a Head Up Display. so - the questions:
1) does the external VGA port work in Windows Mobile mode?
2) does the touchpad move the mouse into the area displayed by the external port in both WM and Vista mode?
3) how long does Vista or XP take to boot up as a clean install
thx for the help in advance
jo
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Just tinkering about with the vga output and I can confirm the following:
1) VGA-out only works on vista side (for now at least, don't know if this could be one of the things that may be possible to port over in the future, certainly not anytime soon)
2) Even if you could get VGA-out from WM side, there is no mouse support/mouse pointer on WM side, although again it is possibe the touchpad could be ported over to WM side and port mouse support from another device with a similar chipset (I believe they do exist with mouse support, mini tracker balls etc)
3) Boot time on clean install for Vista is about 90 seconds I guess, not sure about XP
So what you're suggesting may be possible in the future, but I suspect it would take a lot of work, time and effort, and an excellent knowledge and understanding of dlls, drivers and rom cooking - which I don't have!
Hope I've helped anyway.

thanks mate, that helped a lot. sounds like something too tough for me, unless i can live with it being on the XP/Vista side of things sigh
thx anyway

hi,
some VIA Epia or Intel ATOM ITX Boards are much cheaper then a Shift for CARPC use. Or there a some other solutions for carpc with integrated amplifier, radio, and standard double DIN rack mount, with intelligent power Management for car voltage.
for standard Windows use: (XP Embedded, or standard XP)
as sample:
http://www.cartft.com/catalog/il/770
the same, but with Windows CE 5 (so you can install TOMTOM and some other windows Mobile realted Software...
Http://
but other side, shift is High integrated. for Windows side, centrafuse works very well on htc shift and you can use taht as mediacenter too..
see: http://www.fluxmedia.net

IrDA on X1

I have a Scuba Diving computer that I use via IrDA on the Dell Axim that my X1 has just been purchased to replace.
Can anyone tell me if it would be possible to use an external USB IrDA dongle with the X1. I've only seen Windows XP/Vista drivers listed against these dongles.
What would be involved in developing a driver?

This might be tricky, as I read somewhere on the forum that the USB port is not powered, and therefore connecting dongles (including e.g. USB drives) is difficult.
The last I saw was that it might have been possible to connect the X1 to a powered port adapter, into which USB dongles were attached.
Would it not be easier to connect X1 to a Bluetooth / IRDA dumb client which is in between the IRDA device?

it require a pda to support usbHost to operate any type of usb devices
as far as i know x1 and most htc pda's dont support usbHost

Calvin H said:
Would it not be easier to connect X1 to a Bluetooth / IRDA dumb client which is in between the IRDA device?
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Sounds like a useful suggestion. Could you point me to the type of device you mention.
Thanks for taking the time to answer my question.

Rudegar said:
it require a pda to support usbHost to operate any type of usb devices
as far as i know x1 and most htc pda's dont support usbHost
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You're right on this one. It's not possible to connect USB devices to the X1 because there's no host. Even with a seperate power source, the X1 will not recognize it. Look at it this way, whenever you connect the X1 through USB, it'll act as a slave, waiting for input. Dongles need input themselves, so both devices will keep waiting for each other forever... It's like a bad fairytale!

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... It's like a bad fairytale!
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This this the sort of device that might enable Price Charming (the new name for my X1) to get together with Cinderella (the new name for my lonely, but very beautiful Dive computer)?

USB capability

Hey guys,
I want to know what is possible with our USB-Connector.
What does it support/not support? (Host-Controller, driver...)
How is it build up? (beside the specs in the Wiki)
I'm happy with all helpful answers!
greetz
playdo

usb
It's a mini ext USB and dispite the bumff from HTC will work with any ext mini USB device.
My friends got a USB charger for his car , this works fab in our phones.. have a look in teh interweb , as long as it's gto our connecter it will work .. ( however there are some issues with poliarity as some of the pins are set up diffrently ..

I searched the internet about this topic (because forum search seems to be a bit crappy )
So I found a thread about USB-Host in Touch HD.
Now my question:
Is there a possibility to use the Touch HD as USB-Host device or is our Touch HD just a pure Client?
I thought about a mouse or external Harddisk. But if there is no Host-Controller, it's impossible
PS: I just found some thread about this topic (search funtion is weird finds "usb host" but nothing with "usb")
So from what I see, there is no host capability with our Touch HD?
Nobody tried Zeno driver?

There is an old 3D about HD USBHost: you could search.
HD has Host capability by chip but extUSB lacks of output power: serch 3D to confirm that
D'rath

Many thanks D'rath, that mainly what i want to hear
I think it's possible to bypass the lack of power by an Y-Cable or something like that. If not, i'm going to solder it together
Lets hope it works

I tried it
But I got bad news so far
Just soldered a USB cable together, so power supply is provided and I installed Zeno USB Host Drivers to get mouse support.
But it didn't worked
Just got the popup with "New USB Mouse" but nothing more.
Maybe there is some hope, that it will work, but I didn't get it to work.
greetz
playdo

playdo said:
I tried it
But I got bad news so far
Just soldered a USB cable together, so power supply is provided and I installed Zeno USB Host Drivers to get mouse support.
But it didn't worked
Just got the popup with "New USB Mouse" but nothing more.
Maybe there is some hope, that it will work, but I didn't get it to work.
greetz
playdo
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Did you try using a flashdrive and see if it gets recognized ? I'll be interested in that.

I have just flashed a new ROM and I'm experimenting a bit.
But i try to test it in the next days, if I find the time
By the way, my car is rusting and i got little time because I gotta repair all the **** >.<

Some questions about the Shift

Hi all, i'm new to the shift scene and have a couple of questions:
1. I gather that the WM part of the device is an emulator running on Vista. Is there anyway to turn Vista off so its just WM that is running. (I guess not as the Shift has no WM capable hardware.)
2. Is there anyway to send SMS from the WM side? Can you send SMS from the Vista side?
3. Has anyone got TF3D running on it?
4. Comming from the Xperia X1 forum, there are loads of ROMs for the X1. Are there any WM6.1 ROMs out there for the Shift?.
5. Can you use a bluetooth headset with this device
6. How much does XP speed up the device? How much does Win7 slow down the device? Can you have XP or Win7 running WM?
7. Can you run TomTom on the WM side?
Many Thanks

vinokirk said:
1. I gather that the WM part of the device is an emulator running on Vista. Is there anyway to turn Vista off so its just WM that is running. (I guess not as the Shift has no WM capable hardware.)
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1. You couldn't be more wrong. The WM side is actually a real smartphone built in to the shift mother board with it's own processor and all. WM is always on as long as there is power.
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2. Is there anyway to send SMS from the WM side? Can you send SMS from the Vista side?
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2. Yes it can even do that out of the box with no hacking.
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3. Has anyone got TF3D running on it?
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3. TF3D is to demanding on the WM hardware built in to the shift so a no can do there. You will have to be happy with point ui at best.
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4. Comming from the Xperia X1 forum, there are loads of ROMs for the X1. Are there any WM6.1 ROMs out there for the Shift?.
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4. Yup just browse the forum.
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5. Can you use a bluetooth headset with this device
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5. No, since bt is attached to the computer part and not the phone there is no bt on wm. You cannot use wired head set even. Actually the only way to make calls is using speaker phone. You have to remember it's a computer with wm, not a phone with vista.
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6. How much does XP speed up the device? How much does Win7 slow down the device? Can you have XP or Win7 running WM?
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6. Errh, The q is how well does xp work and how much better will it work with W7 then vista, remember W7 is lighter then Visa and works better on portables then Xp.
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7. Can you run TomTom on the WM side?
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7. Possible in theory impossible practically, we do not have the space avalible on the WM for maps. We cannot use SD since it's attched to the computer not the phone. It is possible to use the computer hdd but it requieres the computer part to be running and that will drain the battery.
The shift is NOT a phone, it's a special device in its own category. One should us it as a additional device not as a phone replacement.

use google maps
you can use google maps instead of tomtom.

Gmaps is another type of app. I's map app, tomtom is a navigator.
Yes you can browse maps on the shift, but no navigation.

Josasp, many thanks for your answers!
Just comming back to a couple of your answers...
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1. You couldn't be more wrong. The WM side is actually a real smartphone built in to the shift mother board with it's own processor and all. WM is always on as long as there is power.
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Im sure I saw in a video a guy was saying how the WM part is an emulation on windows. So you can have the Win XP part totally off and just have the phone on?
Josasp said:
2. Is there anyway to send SMS from the WM side? Can you send SMS from the Vista side?
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Can you make it clear that you mean you can send sms from the Vista side?
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7. Possible in theory impossible practically, we do not have the space avalible on the WM for maps. We cannot use SD since it's attched to the computer not the phone. It is possible to use the computer hdd but it requieres the computer part to be running and that will drain the battery.
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How much space is there on the WM side. You say we can use the WinXP hdd, so does that mean that the WM side can access the WinXP HDD? I would like to use TT navigator in my car, so there would be no probs with power. So people on here have got the GPS unit working then?
Last question, is it 3G? I will have a look myself now for this answer tho, I only just thought of it
ANSWER: Yes it does support 3G
This really is an intriguing device! If only you could make proper calls on it without it being on speakerphone!

Ofc you can SMS you have full wm fuctionality, the speakerphone issue is just that the shift is missing a earpice and access to headset, so it leaves the speakerphone the only option.
I'ts not only 3G it is also HSDPA wich is fater then regular 3G, but notice that there is a CDMA version avalible to that is NOT 3G.
Well the WM part is linked to the computer(vista) in two ways, the first is some sort of internal usb connection that we can turn on and off using "usb tool".
The other way is that the WM and Vista is linked i an internal local network (LAN) that allows vista to connect to the internet using WM as a router an modem, much like a regular home lan.
The fact that they are linked via lan allows for us to use shared folders between the devices in the device, i't works in the same way you share folders over a home network.
Using this shared folders feature we can use the Vista hdd but ONLY when the computer part is on. So there is no direct connection betweed the vista hdd and WM only the virtual share.
I't works but it drains battery and it's slightly buggy, it's not really a great solution.
What would be way better in your case is sharing the GPS module over the internal usb to vista. That is a lot less data and is way more stable.
There is some good navigation software for regular computers too, garmin has a software similar to thier WM software.
A solotion like that looks a lot more stable if you ask me.

Couple more questions:
1)So the GPS module is 'natively' attached to the WM side but you can access it from the WinXP side?
2)Can you confirm if you can send texts from the WinXP side, what program do you use to do it?
3)Can you confirm if you can have the WinXP side totally off and just run the WM side?
4)There are some people on ebay sellling wired headsets for the shift, but you say they dont work...i dont understand! are these seller lying???
5)When the screen is flipped up and your on the WM side, does it go into landspace view?
6)Can you use the hardware keyboard on the WM side?
7)Can you use the trackpad on the WM side?

1. Yes with custom rom like almost everything.
2. Text is sent from WM side perfectly no need for sending from visa/xp/whatever.
3. Well WM is always on as long as the battery is in, vista/xp you turn on/off with a switch.
4. They work only on the pc/vista/xp side for msn/skype/other not in the WM side.
5. The WM side is always in landcape, it is possible to rotate manually in the WM side if you want portrait but no auto switching.
6. Yes, it works very well.
7. Nope it's connected to the PC.
You have to think of the shift as two devices regardless of the fact that they do not appear so. Think of the shift as a laptop connected to phone with usb and lan. When you press the snapvue button the keyboard and the screen will switch between these devices, so it appears that they are the same device.
What does this mean?
Well it means that some things we will never get since they are only connected to pc, like true hdd access or touchpad access.
Some thing we however manage to get working in one of two ways, the first is by using some secret way that htc built in the device but decided not no use like the phone, the other way is by using some sort of software for wm or the pc to send stuff over the lan or usb between the wm and the pc, like sharing GPS or the hdd.
But using some software share requieres both sides to be on and that will drain battery, and attery is the main reason we want to use the wm side instead of the pc. If the pc would last as long as the wm we would not use the wm at all. So having the pc on in order to do some stuff in the wm sort of defeats the purpose of using the wm.

The mouse pad is for the PC side, but if you have the PC side running and connected to the WM side via the program USBTool, then it is possible to control WM with the mouse pad/mouse with a program that has been mentioned in these forums before. I have forgotten its name

Ahh nice one Flanimal
What about the reception on the Shift. Comming from the x1 which has notoriously bad reception!

Ahh nice one Flanimal
What about the reception on the Shift. Comming from the x1 which has notoriously bad reception!

Flanimal said:
The mouse pad is for the PC side, but if you have the PC side running and connected to the WM side via the program USBTool, then it is possible to control WM with the mouse pad/mouse with a program that has been mentioned in these forums before. I have forgotten its name
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I have remembered the name of this application that allows you to use the mouse and mouse pad in WM whilstVista/XP side is on. It's called trueconnect. It works very well.