Seeing that we dont have a good solution for XP tablet as of yet .... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=378926
Can 1 ofthe Vista gurus create a step by step stripping faq on getting vista stripped down to essentials, where it may be able to be more snappy.
Possible put it in sections, so that people can choose if they need a function or not.
There are many faq's on the web for speeding up Vista, just Google for them.
Or check out TweakVI.
how about reinstalling Vista using vLite (nLite for Vista)?
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There are many faq's on the web for speeding up Vista, just Google for them.
Or check out TweakVI.
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Has anyone actually try TweakVI? does it really work to speed up Vista?
Vlite
This won't work as you require a DVD and separate drivers (which we don't have as they are embedded into the vista recovery image we have somewhere in the Shift).
Blitz
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Hi All, yesterday i install xp on my GF's eee900 using nLite, it's very fast and i am so impress. Now that is done and running super fast, i wonder if i could do the same for my shift, by using vLite to create a strip down version of vista and intall it from an external DVD drive.
Tne problem i could think of is drivers, do wehave the complete list of drives for vista? if so, i think it will be very possible, you get to disable all the service and microsoft cr*p that you don't want, which will speed up Shift a lot.
Let me know what you guys think.
I think the more techno savvy of this forum are working on this amongst other things. If HTC was to provide drivers for the hardware it would help, a lot...
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Hi All, yesterday i install xp on my GF's eee900 using nLite, it's very fast and i am so impress. Now that is done and running super fast, i wonder if i could do the same for my shift, by using vLite to create a strip down version of vista and intall it from an external DVD drive.
Tne problem i could think of is drivers, do wehave the complete list of drives for vista? if so, i think it will be very possible, you get to disable all the service and microsoft cr*p that you don't want, which will speed up Shift a lot.
Let me know what you guys think.
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After mounting the XVISTA.WIM inside the recovery partition, I can safely say, Vlite will not work with Shifts Vista.
However, I am currently working on a solution.
I will use a normal Vista Business to create a lite version of Vista and slipstream it into the recovery partition. I hope to shave off a few GB and get some resources free.
But it will take me a few days to get that done. Will keep you updated.
Awww cumon!!
You only have a hard working 800Mz proc!!!
Give it loads of extra file handling and say NITE NITE!!!
(Soz, alchohol moment...)
Do not expect this kit to do anything normally expected of a PC or good laptop, it is a slow UMPC as nothing better exists YET!!!!
I used to see this of people expecting to see a TyTynII act as a laptop!!
Please read the specs of the device and hope for a little more from XDA devs, but not miracles out of the box!!
dude, I play mkv files on it
of course, on win xp made using nlite, with carefull a codec and player selection. there are some of us that would try to get every mhz out of that processor, just for fun and proofs of concepts.
if it were possible i would put win98 on it, and have a boot time of 20sec . It would still offer more then a windows mobile environment.
its more about the size of the Vista installation.
Its easier for me to modify Vista then getting XP to work on this.
Besides, whats wrong with freeing up resources...doesnt cost anything and makes it more responsive.
so far, it runs really nice and quick.
Can even play some stuff on it (Ground Control)
anyway...as soon as its done, I will post the download link
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its more about the size of the Vista installation.
Its easier for me to modify Vista then getting XP to work on this.
Besides, whats wrong with freeing up resources...doesnt cost anything and makes it more responsive.
so far, it runs really nice and quick.
Can even play some stuff on it (Ground Control)
anyway...as soon as its done, I will post the download link
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EXCELLENT!
This may be hard to believe but windows 2008 server Standard is FAR FASTER than running Vista SP1 on your Shift.
I have installed Server 2008 today and it runs really quickly. It also runs with approximately 490MB of RAM free and responds to starting applications much better...
There are however a few issues........
1. ShagCtrl.exe doesn't run properly it complains about WLANAPI.DLL not being present.
2. The touch screen doesn't work.
Everything else does and works much faster than using VISTA.
Anyone post for me the WLANAPI.DLL so i don't have to re-install vista just to get it please and let me know where it should be placed...
Thanks
Fascinating !!
You actually did what I didn't dare to do.. !!
I assume that there are a few people here capable of delivering what you asked.
The problem might be the touchscreen drivers, to get those working...
I'll keep a close watch on this thread.
One question, did you delete the recovery partition ?
ANother question, did you attach an external DVD an booted from it ?
In the boot menu, there's no option , maybe I should attach a USB DVD or Ethernet connection ?
EDIT : forgot to say that there's postings on this forum offering the drivers seperately. Maybe you can install them ?
Drivers and stuff
Yeah kept the recovery partition F3+FN intact.......
Booted off an external USB DVD device (which shows up on FN+F10)
I have all the drivers separately but was missing some DLLs.
Recovered to VISTA last night and copied off Program Files & WINDOWS to capture all the DLLs and infs....
Re-installing 2008 Server now...
Will let you know how i get on........ But it's sooooo much quicker.....
Microsoft really have optimised Server 2008 over Vista even though is shares some of the same kernel.........
I think a better way forward is to get it to work with Server 2008....
Regards
Blitz
wow, great job mate, but how much does server 2008 cost?
and is it worth that cost, considering vista is installed free?
Rory
I'm an MSND member (Technet PLUS) which sets you down about 400$ a year. In return, you can install any OS they ever made with a key. 4 timees per key if im correct. So m Windows 2008 is payed for already, but understand not everybody has technet plus from microsoft.
It's a darn good deal.
If you do get ShagCtrl and VitaKey work with your Windows server 2008 I think that might make me install Server 2008 as well.
Good Luck and let us know how it turns out!
sorry for my ignorance, but does Server 2008 behave in a similar way to Vista? can you install the same apps? i.e. would Skype work? what would be the main disadvantages of doing this?
I have an X1i (believe it's a UK release because I got it from the Middle East), and I don't have a PC. I have a Mac
I'm currently using The Missing Sync to sync contacts and what not, but there appears to be a lot more I could be doing with ROMs if I had a PC running. For example, I am unable to update my ROM with the Service Update tool because there just isn't one for the Mac.
Any tips/ideas on this? All the ROMs out there are in .EXE format. Do I just copy them to the X1 and run them? Or do I really HAVE to have a PC?
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I have an X1i (believe it's a UK release because I got it from the Middle East), and I don't have a PC. I have a Mac
I'm currently using The Missing Sync to sync contacts and what not, but there appears to be a lot more I could be doing with ROMs if I had a PC running. For example, I am unable to update my ROM with the Service Update tool because there just isn't one for the Mac.
Any tips/ideas on this? All the ROMs out there are in .EXE format. Do I just copy them to the X1 and run them? Or do I really HAVE to have a PC?
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I posted a thread a while ago regarding just this, whether other Mac users are using WinMo phones as well. Regarding ROM's, I still have no clue. You could try virtual software if you have an Intel Mac, I'm on a PPC Powermac so that's not an option for me.
Turns out there just aren't many and using a PC is the best solution.
Windows Mobile just isn't Mac friendly.
it's not just a mac thing it's also not very linux, 64bit xp, 64bit vista, 64bit win7, 32bit vista, 32bit win7 friendly
Bugger.
It's not very nice having to bum someone's PC and run hacks off it. Hmmmm...
I'm going to experiment with Missing Sync, see how far it'll take me.
I can run Bootstrap if I must, though I just totally despise windows. I'm looking for any way to get it off my xperia - everything I CAN do appears to be skinning, nothing more. Not even Android can be set to hard boot - yet...
Yes, don't ask...the xperia was a gift. If I had my way, it would've been anything NOT running WM.
Kooji said:
Bugger.
It's not very nice having to bum someone's PC and run hacks off it. Hmmmm...
I'm going to experiment with Missing Sync, see how far it'll take me.
I can run Bootstrap if I must, though I just totally despise windows. I'm looking for any way to get it off my xperia - everything I CAN do appears to be skinning, nothing more. Not even Android can be set to hard boot - yet...
Yes, don't ask...the xperia was a gift. If I had my way, it would've been anything NOT running WM.
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I feel your pain.
Hi, I am about to get an HTC Shift here soon.
I was wondering which OS to put on the device.
I need to know which OS will run the smoothest. (Videos, gaming, not freezing up, etc.).
I know that there are some people here that know the answer. I'd really appreciate it if any of you can help me out here. Thanks guys!
Also, which would be the fastest version? Home, Tablet, Professional, etc.?
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Hi, I am about to get an HTC Shift here soon.
I was wondering which OS to put on the device.
I need to know which OS will run the smoothest. (Videos, gaming, not freezing up, etc.).
I know that there are some people here that know the answer. I'd really appreciate it if any of you can help me out here. Thanks guys!
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Choose windows 7, Windows xp just doesn't bring what you want due to the lack of good touch input, windows vista is slow. Windows 7 and XP performance are almost the same..
Messing around a bit 7 is best. 8 is beta and weird, XP is old and out of date for touch and such, Vista is a lost cause.
I got a 2gb RAM module for $95 off ebay by trading in my 1gb module. Shop around, you can find great deals.
Soon I am going to load Ubuntu 12.04 on it, I think in the long run of things it might work best, I'll post my findings.
Thanks for your response man. I think I found the correct drivers for Windows 7.
It was a pack I found here on XDA. It's too bad... 99% of the links for the HTC Shift Drivers are all bad.
Actually. I have a question. Would you happen to know if I install Windows 7, will the Windows Mobile part still be there? And also, do you think you could link me to the correct thread where you can use the HTC Shift as a phone?
That would be extremely helpful.
This is where I got the Drivers for Windows 7. - http://tb.gtxhosting.ru/pub/htc_shift.zip
I hope that is right.
I also somehow found a Pack for Windows XP Drivers. Do you think this is right? Here's the link. - http://archive02.filefactory.com/dl...29dc3cea11302048b02728/n/drivers_shift_XP.rar
Let me know, I'd really appreciate it. I'm glad to see that there are still some people who post about this device. =D
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Thanks for your response man. I think I found the correct drivers for Windows 7.
It was a pack I found here on XDA. It's too bad... 99% of the links for the HTC Shift Drivers are all bad.
Actually. I have a question. Would you happen to know if I install Windows 7, will the Windows Mobile part still be there? And also, do you think you could link me to the correct thread where you can use the HTC Shift as a phone?
That would be extremely helpful.
This is where I got the Drivers for Windows 7. - http://tb.gtxhosting.ru/pub/htc_shift.zip
I hope that is right.
I also somehow found a Pack for Windows XP Drivers. Do you think this is right? Here's the link. - http://archive02.filefactory.com/dl...29dc3cea11302048b02728/n/drivers_shift_XP.rar
Let me know, I'd really appreciate it. I'm glad to see that there are still some people who post about this device. =D
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same stuff I found and check out my thread here
The WM side stays, its a hardware VM. I dont have time to jack with mine but I will post up a good updated write up with all my findings next week on windows 7 and WM 6.
Spazer77710 said:
Thanks for your response man. I think I found the correct drivers for Windows 7.
It was a pack I found here on XDA. It's too bad... 99% of the links for the HTC Shift Drivers are all bad.
Actually. I have a question. Would you happen to know if I install Windows 7, will the Windows Mobile part still be there? And also, do you think you could link me to the correct thread where you can use the HTC Shift as a phone?
That would be extremely helpful.
This is where I got the Drivers for Windows 7. - http://tb.gtxhosting.ru/pub/htc_shift.zip
I hope that is right.
I also somehow found a Pack for Windows XP Drivers. Do you think this is right? Here's the link. - http://archive02.filefactory.com/dl...29dc3cea11302048b02728/n/drivers_shift_XP.rar
Let me know, I'd really appreciate it. I'm glad to see that there are still some people who post about this device. =D
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Don't download, Just download the official "Vista" drivers from the HTC Site, and then search for the instructions "how to install windows 7 HTC Shift" you'll get a topic with all the steps you should take. But you do have to download a new wlan driver.
Thanks for your response Armazia. I'll try to look around for the Vista Drivers and the instruction for Windows 7. I tried to look earlier, but I couldn't find it for some reason. I'll give it a shot now.
I couldn't find anything on HTC's site. I found this though. Will this work? - http://driver-pro.com/related/english/hardware-drivers/?a=12226&hit=1
I will post up all the drivers I use once its done, Might be a while yet, working away from home starting tomorrow, wont be back till tues or weds.
I'll host it at Morninglion.com, my own website, so it will stay there.
Thanks so much! Your Great!
I should receive the HTC Shift I ordered by about that time too.
seems HTC shift comes back alive since there is sales recently
my htc will arrive today ... ready for rock on roll
btw, anybody can tell me whether responsive noticeable increase
with 2GB RAM instead of 1GB stock RAM if running windows 7 ??
dony71 said:
seems HTC shift comes back alive since there is sales recently
my htc will arrive today ... ready for rock on roll
btw, anybody can tell me whether responsive noticeable increase
with 2GB RAM instead of 1GB stock RAM if running windows 7 ??
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I think its not worth it, since it only has a 800 mhz processor.. You won't really benefit of 2 gb.
I find windows 8 very good, and very snappy. Try it! Its very nice on the huge touch screen.
Best regards
I like the speed and quickness on windows 8. If you disable windows defender and file indexing (search), it runs very quickly. I use the stardock windows 8 menu as well. Has anyone gotten the WM side to be recognized on Windows 8. I was able to get it working on Vista and Windows 7 but having trouble with 8. Anyone have any good incite?
Does anybody know if it is still possible to download the Developer Preview of Windows 8? Microsoft only has links to the Consumer Preview. (Will this still work via the installation guide found here?)
I just ordered a Shift from the 1saleaday/Ben's Outlet for $199. Eagerly awaiting my new gadget!
Success, With a little work you can get the WM part to be visible in Windows 8 and can transfer files.
Once you use the usbtool, on the windows side you might need to repair the network connection (leave wifi off) and it works.
You can also use the SIM card to surf with windows 8 as well.
need liberation files
friends,my shift is windows 7 and need liberation files .when downloaded it is being saved as text file and cant liberate .pls mail me to [email protected] all the files for liberation.And also my snapVUE not working in windows7,
After years of running the wondrous pof's Hardy 8.04.1 Shift setup, I've gone back to XP. Mainly because Links2 (the fastest browser for this ancient hardware) no longer works with all sites due to its lack of security updates.
cygwin's Links2 2.14 for Windows has enough updated security, so one can visit any site. slimjet chrome browser for XP still syncs with google, but site-rendering is pretty glacial.
As usual, the sd card reader in XP is buggy, mostly due to its old 2002 driver that seems un-updatable. First, I've only gotten a 2GB-or-below card to be recognized. Secondly, the card has to be reinserted upon booting into XP and can also disappear upon resume-after-suspend. But the second issue is solved if one uses devcon.exe and a batch script disabling/reenabling the card driver:
Code:
@echo off
"C:\devcon.exe" disable =SDHost
timeout /t 2
"C:\devcon.exe" enable =SDHost
If anybody else is still using XP, it'd be interesting to hear any of your own workarounds.
I keep dragging my Shift out of mothballs and it's still one of the great niche devices.
Jake
I've only used Vista, Windows 7 and 10 on my HTC Shift, but now it is too slow with any of them so in the next few days, I'm planning on repurposing my Shift to become an offline retro-machine. Therefor I'm intending to install XP on it for the first time. I'll share my experiences on this forum. I'm intending to mostly use it for games and c64 emulation.
Did anyone manage to find Win XP drivers for the Shift?
Thanx
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Did anyone manage to find Win XP drivers for the Shift?
Thanx
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'fraid not.
XP runs well, and the sound works, but I couldn't get optimal screen resolution, and many programs and games (such as Halo, FSX and even basic C64 emulators) refuse to run due to missing drivers.
Since XP has not had security support for a long time, I don't connect XP to the internet, nor do I download any of the general XP driver bundles that are available.
So XP HTC Shift is kind-of useful but not as much as I had hoped. I'm thinking of going back to an offline Windows 7.
I uploaded a couple of HTC Shift Windows XP videos today on YouTube. Here are the links:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7LbdGV1Rjg&t=9s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTU6Kvua7oI&t=458s