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Off topic: Alarm with BIG off / snooze button!

Hi, sorry to invade with what seems like a trivial issue but does anyone know of an app that allows the following functionality? I used my old phone as my alarm clock and am missing the functionality on my Magician -->
1) BIG snooze and off button / or hardware button map for off/snooze (can't see much at 5am!)?
2) Play audible alarm at max volume even when PPC muted?
Any help would be much appreciated - or good excuses as to why I have been late for work since I got my new toy!!!
Thanks,
OB.

How about this one?

that prog is great and what u ask for. i use it myself!

Perfect!! Thanks very much indeed...
One slight problem - The today plugin conflicts with my Calendar plugin and completely removed it from the today screen and config page?!?
I did a few resets and uninstall / re-installes to no evail, so I removed the pTravelAlarm plugin registry entry (software|microsoft|today|items) and ptplugin.dll (windows dir) followed by a soft reset and my Calendar was visible on the Today screen again... odd?
I am not too bothered about the Today plugin part of the pTravelAlarm program so still happy :lol:
OB.

You could also try Spb Time. Large snooze button. Never fails to wake me up.

obarnes said:
Perfect!! Thanks very much indeed...
One slight problem - The today plugin conflicts with my Calendar plugin and completely removed it from the today screen and config page?!?
I did a few resets and uninstall / re-installes to no evail, so I removed the pTravelAlarm plugin registry entry (software|microsoft|today|items) and ptplugin.dll (windows dir) followed by a soft reset and my Calendar was visible on the Today screen again... odd?
I am not too bothered about the Today plugin part of the pTravelAlarm program so still happy :lol:
OB.
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Which plugin do you use? I'm using calender+ without any problems.

Dravpnir said:
Which plugin do you use? I'm using calender+ without any problems.
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This was the standard built-in plugin that was trashed -- I did try Calender+ and it worked fine, but wish it would show a tomorrow appt. if it is the next one, as the built-in one does...
OB.

I have now tried both the pTravelAlarm and the Spb Time. The Spb Time is cheaper, has more functions and are better looking than pTravelAlarm => use Spb Time
I don't follow you with that you can't see tomorrows appointment with calender+. I can see the following two days with all their appointments. You can easily display up to 31 days with calender+.

Spb Time is about what I wanted as an alarm when migrating from Nokia to Magician. Had to install some fix to get it working though. Alarms and Windows Mobile doesn't seem to get along.

Dravpnir said:
I don't follow you with that you can't see tomorrows appointment with calender+. I can see the following two days with all their appointments. You can easily display up to 31 days with calender+.
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I like to display next 2 appt. only. So if I have a 5pm and an 8am next day, I like to see them both on the today screen but not more than 2 appt. so the display 2 days does not work for me? Unless I am missing something in Cal+?
Thanks for the inputs, much appreciated...
OB

Loboman said:
Spb Time is about what I wanted as an alarm when migrating from Nokia to Magician. Had to install some fix to get it working though. Alarms and Windows Mobile doesn't seem to get along.
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Strange, I have no problems, so far....
@obarnes With calender+ you can set it to display the next x (between 1 and 31) days, hours, appointments and so on. Just enter the options and set it to whatever you want.

obarnes said:
Hi, sorry to invade with what seems like a trivial issue but does anyone know of an app that allows the following functionality? I used my old phone as my alarm clock and am missing the functionality on my Magician -->
1) BIG snooze and off button / or hardware button map for off/snooze (can't see much at 5am!)?
2) Play audible alarm at max volume even when PPC muted?
Any help would be much appreciated - or good excuses as to why I have been late for work since I got my new toy!!!
Thanks,
OB.
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I have used both WolfClock and StopTime. Both are pretty good and they will do what you want.
StopTime is more barebones, visually simpler and to the point, though less refined. While cruder, it is quite good at what it does. Also has various timer/stopwatch functions.
WolfClock is more visuals (fancy backgrounds etc) and colours. It runs of Compact.net, is therefore a bit slower to boot up the firt time after a soft resent. It also eats up more memory space with all sorts of cute things like a setting where you can tell it to play music for x mins until you go to sleep. Some might call this "bloat". The one thing I will say is that at night you might find the choice of a softer screen color worth the extra memory.
Both have good handy button size for when you need to stop, snooze etc and both are free.

Enlarge your today screen (how to remove the bottom menu bars)

If you're looking to get rid of the menu bar at the bottom of the Today Screen, read on. This is not a new tip, but might save you time, as there's a lot of different versions of these programs flying around. Only the one below works on WM6 / HTC Touch.
I personally find that the Menu Bars at the bottom of the Today Screen really spoil the look of the HTC Touch's sleek black/grey theme. Besides, the Comm Manager and Contacts are both accessible via the spinning cube (or the camera button if you install Double Launcher) so there's no need to have on the Today Screen, you may as well get more space for plugins, or just to keep everything looking neat and tidy. See screenshot below!
Here's how to banish them forever (?!) :
1. Download ToggleTodayIIAlpha from this link:
http://www.vijay555.com/vj/releases/vjtoggletodayii/vjtoggletodayiialpha.exe
2. Copy it to your \Windows\Startup directory. (or somewhere else and paste a shortcut instead)
3. Go into the registry and edit this key:
HKLM/Software/Vijay555/VJTodayToggle
Change these keys:
Softkeysize = 1
StartSize = 26
TrayVisible = 1
That's it! I've had no massive problems with this so far, although I haven't been testing it for too long. I'd be interested to hear how people get on in terms of stability/bugs. You WILL get problems if you try to use any of the older VJTodayToggle programs in the thread on this forum:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=243211
(SIP keyboard staying on, SIP moving to the top of the screen, menu titles disappearing but not the background, etc.)
...in fact, that's precisely why I'm sharing this info with you, as this thread is 39 pages long and it's only towards the end that things become totally clear! I'll post again if there's any unexpected side-effects, I'm currently minimising BatteryStatus and I don't know whether this will
Good luck!
Carlos
NOTES / ADVANCED
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A: If you want to make your screen even neater AND still overclock your Touch, then, in step 3 above, you can make TrayVisible=0 then you can minimise the BatteryStatus plugin and it won't show up on your today screen. (right click on batterystatus icon, choose 'show rows -> minimise') I haven't tested this properly yet.
B: If you want to explore hiding the Start Menu, feel free, it looks superb when you first do it, but then I have found that the HTC biotouch (spinning cube) automatically re-instates the start menu bar when it's deactivated each time.
C: Please note, this program ( tt2.exe) DOES NOT TOGGLE, even though it's called that! Again, it's a 39 page thread, I warned you...
D: You can also run TT2.exe with a -config option to avoid editing the registry, but this would actually make the above even more long-winded to explain to any n00bs.
E: A nice new HTC wallpaper is doing the rounds without the logo. (As you can see from my screenshot, it's mis-positioned with the extra screen space) See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=319830
F: Vijay555 has been meaning to release a new (non-alpha) version of the software for some time, but sounds pretty busy. He seems like an all-round splendid guy though and I'd like to thank him for this software and his continued postings/programming.

I have the HTC X7500 WM6 and I've been desperate to make it works.
I've been trying other version from the 40 pages thread, so I'll try this one and I will post result.

BigDede said:
I have the HTC X7500 WM6 and I've been desperate to make it works.
I've been trying other version from the 40 pages thread, so I'll try this one and I will post result.
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Good luck! The honest truth is that after I'd posted this, I discovered a couple of bugs that appeared in soak testing. I gave up in the end - it worked 90% but I would still occasionally get conflict, e.g. the SIP keyboard would appear at the top of the screen sometimes and only a soft reset would put it back where it was meant to be!

carlosp_uk said:
Good luck! The honest truth is that after I'd posted this, I discovered a couple of bugs that appeared in soak testing. I gave up in the end - it worked 90% but I would still occasionally get conflict, e.g. the SIP keyboard would appear at the top of the screen sometimes and only a soft reset would put it back where it was meant to be!
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Yep I confirm that, SIP keyboard is there, and sometimes as well softkeys stay there after softreset.
Well actually for me it's even worse, it's hiding the system tray (the bar just above the softkeys bar) where we can add shortcuts icons and keep the softkeys bar enabled..
Im disappointed but thks for vijay555 for all the efforts

Perfect... without HTC Logo is even better...
Thanks Carlos,
I've just installed and its working fine. With the clean background from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=319830 looks even better.
Cheers,
Marcelo

BigDede said:
Yep I confirm that, SIP keyboard is there, and sometimes as well softkeys stay there after softreset.
Well actually for me it's even worse, it's hiding the system tray
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See my original post, have you tried setting TrayVisible=1 in the registry, this should show the system tray.

I followed exactly what u posted, it displayed it correctly the first time, then after soft reset it was displaying only the softkeys bar and hiding the system tray bar
Thks anyway

How does this look on screens BESIDES the today screen? I have used other programs on different WM phones in the past and although the bottom bar disappears on the today screen, it is still on other screens.
Also, can you use the bottom of the screen or is it just dead space? Some of us have moved the HTC Home Plug to the bottom of the page and if it is just dead space, it is going to look bad....

maevro said:
How does this look on screens BESIDES the today screen? I have used other programs on different WM phones in the past and although the bottom bar disappears on the today screen, it is still on other screens. Also, can you use the bottom of the screen or is it just dead space? Some of us have moved the HTC Home Plug to the bottom of the page and if it is just dead space, it is going to look bad....
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The menu bar is visible on other screens, this behaviour is by design. I cannot see why anybody would want it invisible on other screens, as you normally need those softkeys for menus in most programs!
As far as I know you can use the bottom of the screen, it is not dead space. But why not try it out - it's unlikely to do any harm. You can always delete it from your startup directory to uninstall if you don't want it.
C

Well it works well so far.....(Not my screen, Neo's screen @ HoFo)

I can't remember if the TrayVisible setting even works - I think it was something I was intending to build in, but never got around to it.
Apologies... I'm kinda programming again, had lots going on, so never finished the app. Sorry for you guys having to use my unfinished piece of cr*p. I'll make it work properly one day!
V

vijay555 said:
I can't remember if the TrayVisible setting even works - I think it was something I was intending to build in, but never got around to it.
Apologies... I'm kinda programming again, had lots going on, so never finished the app. Sorry for you guys having to use my unfinished piece of cr*p. I'll make it work properly one day!
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Thks a lot vijay555

HELP!!!
I installed this, but I don't know how to get into the registry from an .exe file, so I just tried to open the file through my phone, and instead it has hidden my start bar, as well as the bottom bar. How do I reverse this???

maevro said:
Well it works well so far.....(Not my screen, Neo's screen @ HoFo)
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How did you "move" the HTC Home plugin to the bottom part of the Today-screen without any plugin above it? I searched all over the forums, but I cannot find the answer to this question
--Marc

soulstar said:
HELP!!!
I installed this, but I don't know how to get into the registry from an .exe file, so I just tried to open the file through my phone, and instead it has hidden my start bar, as well as the bottom bar. How do I reverse this???
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Just soft reset your phone.

marc2503 said:
How did you "move" the HTC Home plugin to the bottom part of the Today-screen without any plugin above it? I searched all over the forums, but I cannot find the answer to this question
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Use the HTC Home customizer to "unlock" it. Then you can move it around like normal.
However, it doesn't redraw correctly on the right side if you unlock it, and a scrollbar comes and goes.

i have a other solution!! PCM shrink installe it and your bar remove it s very easier! For become to the original config juste delete the programmz!!

won't stick
Hi..very nice and easy Zip File..just one problem: the toggle won't stick after a soft reset = one has to go into File Explorer..double click the Toggle File and only than the screen is "clean" again.
Any way to make the toggle "stick"?

I have not this problem! I install the cab i going on the explorer and today shrink and clik on after i reboot my pda ans the bar not appear ... You can try put a abbreviated of today skrink in WINdows/started for star the application automatic on windows sartup
the result of the appl:

I have this running at startup on my Tilt, works with screen rotations and everything! And the hard keys are still mapped to calendar and contacts for quick access, awesome.
Many thanks, couldn't stand those useless soft keys before.
- Charles

Touch Settings OFFICIAL THREAD

making this now this is for Touch Settings updates.
THanks Carlos!

ambush276 said:
making this now this is for Touch Settings updates.
THanks Carlos!
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Where is the file for the " Touch Settings " ? You should start by attaching the settings file since this will be the main thread for Touch Settings

i posted detailed instructions as to how to get the "Touch Settings" program to work correctly on the Sprint Touch a few days ago. I'll re-post it over in the Vogue forum shortly

utexascg said:
i posted detailed instructions as to how to get the "Touch Settings" program to work correctly on the Sprint Touch a few days ago. I'll re-post it over in the Vogue forum shortly
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Please don't re-post this information, as I have now built a new version of the program that should work on the Sprint Touch without any special instructions required. It's been tested by Sprint users and seems to be working well so far.
You can download the beta (v1.29d) from www.fatattitude.com/software
For installation instructions please see: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=324556
Best,
Carlos

Works great on HTC Touch! WooHoo!
Very Nice job. Very Nice, indeed.
Personally, I wanted the photo to launch the HTC Camera Album.lnk the way you can scroll with your finger & zoom, etc.
So, I created the Photos button in MediaHub to be:
\WindowsHTCAlbum.exe
Params: -mode:camera -type:image

when i try and install the settings app i get a error messsage about
"Installation was unsuccessful. The program or settings cannot be installed because it does not have sufficient system permissions"
how do i chang it so i can install and run this.. thanks

whipple16 said:
when i try and install the settings app i get a error messsage about
"Installation was unsuccessful. The program or settings cannot be installed because it does not have sufficient system permissions"
how do i chang it so i can install and run this.. thanks
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If you look at the post at the top of this page by Carlos, you'll see he says, "For installation instructions please see: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=324556."
He also gives these suggestions:
- If you're installing to Storage Card, try installing to the Device instead.
- If you still get the error, try resetting your device and installing again - this honestly worked for me!
- Check there is enough free storage space on your device.
- Try a manual installation (zip file coming to first post shortly)
There are many posts about this in other threads, so you should be able to find the info you need.

Carlos,
Any reason to upgrade to 1.29e if d is working well?
Secondly, if we do upgrade - do you have to uninstall first? or can you overwrite the program?
I don't seem to be able to see a changes history. I'll keep looking.

carlos said there is a new touch settings version comming out soon where it will help implement animations and custom icons will show when the cube turns. WOOT. and we wont have to install the updated Exe, it will be updated for us.,.]
THANKS CARLOS!

ambush276 said:
carlos said there is a new touch settings version comming out soon where it will help implement animations and custom icons will show when the cube turns. WOOT. and we wont have to install the updated Exe, it will be updated for us.,.]
THANKS CARLOS!
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I've been absent for a few days and WOW...things are shaping up! Thanks Carlos! You are awesome! (Enough exclamation points?)

ambush276 said:
making this now this is for Touch Settings updates.
THanks Carlos!
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I have spent a good deal of time getting my Sprint Touch to display my local weather by using N2A's "patched" HtcHome.dll which points at a server that does support my local weather (unlike the Htc's accuweather server). Now I would like to use 'Touch Settings' to easily customize what apps get launched from my 3x2 app launcher and the media hub buttons, but I'm not sure if I dare do this yet since I haven't seen anyone explain how 'Touch Settings' accomplishes displaying local weather.
Can anyone tell me how it does this? My concern is that it may conflict with the patched home plugin I already have working.

SprintTouchGuy said:
I have spent a good deal of time getting my Sprint Touch to display my local weather by using N2A's "patched" HtcHome.dll which points at a server that does support my local weather (unlike the Htc's accuweather server). Now I would like to use 'Touch Settings' to easily customize what apps get launched from my 3x2 app launcher and the media hub buttons, but I'm not sure if I dare do this yet since I haven't seen anyone explain how 'Touch Settings' accomplishes displaying local weather.
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Hi SprintTouchGuy
Touch Settings updates the registry keys at \HKLM\Software\HTC\HomePlug\Weather\Settings
I don't think this should change your server settings etc, and it certainly won't change which .dll file your weather is pulled from.
Why not do a registry backup of that key, try out Touch Settings and if there are any problems, just restore your registry? I think you'll be OK with it.

Hi all
I have a new beta of Touch Settings v2.0 that I'd really like a couple of people to test for me, in particular people with Vogues and Touch Duals, especially pp18 and that other kind person who volunteered.
I have posted it in:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=324556&page=20
....if you could keep feedback in that thread for now please? Feels like we have too many threads going at once otherwise and gets confusing!
Thanks,
Carlos

carlosp_uk said:
Hi SprintTouchGuy
Touch Settings updates the registry keys at \HKLM\Software\HTC\HomePlug\Weather\Settings
I don't think this should change your server settings etc, and it certainly won't change which .dll file your weather is pulled from.
Why not do a registry backup of that key, try out Touch Settings and if there are any problems, just restore your registry? I think you'll be OK with it.
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Works great...thanks Carlos!
One thing I noticed would be interested in finding out if other Sprint Touch users are seeing: after updating my "On Demand" app launcher's button to open a different app in the mediahub, the "Demand" in the text "On Demand" is now half cut-off. I assume this text (which I would like to change anyway) is stored in the registry somewhere and is not editable via Touch Settings yet. I can spend some time researching which settings to manually change in the registry, but if you are going to add this feature soon to the app, then I won't spend the time.
Thanks again, regardless...

SprintTouchGuy said:
Works great...thanks Carlos!
I assume this text (which I would like to change anyway) is stored in the registry somewhere and is not editable via Touch Settings yet.
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Hi SprintTouchGuy
Glad it's working for you! If you run Touch Settings, you should be able to click in the grey box where it says "On Demand" and change the text to anything you like... ...let me know if it doesn't work for any reason.
C

carlosp_uk said:
Hi SprintTouchGuy
Glad it's working for you! If you run Touch Settings, you should be able to click in the grey box where it says "On Demand" and change the text to anything you like... ...let me know if it doesn't work for any reason.
C
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Thanks Carlos...I can't believe I didn't think to at least try tapping in there! (Oh me of little faith...)
Next minor issue:
I made my bottom mediahub button say "Voice Recorder", and the word "Recorder" wrapped to a second line which is half-way cut off. I see that text wraps on the middle button as well, and although it doesn't get cut off it does look off-center vertically. I don't know if there is any way to adjust the text vertically with the magic that you do, so for now I'll try to come up with one word labels for the buttons to avoid the issue.
I also am curous what parameter to use to get the HtcAlbum.exe to launch the Camera Album to display just videos, like the 2nd-row 3rd button in does in the 9 button app launcher that comes on the 3rd tab of the HTC Home plugin. Does anybody know what I need to supply? I believe there is a mode: option, but when trying "mode:video" it still only comes up displaying pictures, and it does so in portrait view, not in landscape view like it does from the app launcher (which I prefer). My apologies if this has been discussed already...thanks!

carlosp_uk said:
Hi SprintTouchGuy
Glad it's working for you! If you run Touch Settings, you should be able to click in the grey box where it says "On Demand" and change the text to anything you like... ...let me know if it doesn't work for any reason.
C
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Carlos - this is kind of a QA issue with the interface. Can I make the suggestion that you change the color of that box from gray to something like yellow? The first few times I opened the app I thought it was the typical "grayed out" box -- meaning I couldn't edit it. Whereas when I see a yellow box it grabs my attention and suggests I should be doing something with it...

UltimateLaunch - how to disable auto-minimize?

Hi all.
I've been using the awesome today plugin Ultimate Launch lately, and I truly love it.
One thing that really irritates me is the fact that the program auto-minimizes the tabs almost after every time I turn off the screen. More precisely, the main tab still shows after I turn it on, but it's stuck, and I have to open the programs folder or start a program and then come back to the Today screen, and only then I see that all tabs are minimized.
Anyone knows how to disable this auto-minimize feature??
Thanks!

Until now I haven't even known that the option exists...Have you tried config\behaviour\always minimize height?

sabestian said:
Until now I haven't even known that the option exists...Have you tried config\behaviour\always minimize height?
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pick the tab that you want... and go to "settings" pick the page and hit "change" then go a tab over to "tab" and pick "open tab on startup"
there isnt a way to disable the auto hide feature... unless someone were to get the source code for this and pull it apart... i wish someone was allowed to do this... this app has such a great base to be THE ultimate launcher... i mean, it already lives up to its names in all aspects, speed, weight, stability, and customization... but it leaves some room for desire
btw... to anyone who reads this... im finally gonna upload my theme... its perfect to me in every way
i have two versions... full and lite... the lite one i just made today for my girl friend... shes making me let everyone figure out how to turn it into a lite version... but ill post screens so you can see... it should be up by tomorrow...

Michaelr219 said:
pick the tab that you want... and go to "settings" pick the page and hit "change" then go a tab over to "tab" and pick "open tab on startup"
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Already done that. This only lets you chose which tab is the default one when starting the plugin.
there isnt a way to disable the auto hide feature... unless someone were to get the source code for this and pull it apart... i wish someone was allowed to do this... this app has such a great base to be THE ultimate launcher... i mean, it already lives up to its names in all aspects, speed, weight, stability, and customization... but it leaves some room for desire
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I guess I should send a request to the developer.
More ideas?

KamaL said:
Already done that. This only lets you chose which tab is the default one when starting the plugin.
I guess I should send a request to the developer.
More ideas?
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yea, but it should also bring it back up on resume too... make sure there arent any other tabs with that box checked or else it will conflict with the feature

Michaelr219 said:
yea, but it should also bring it back up on resume too... make sure there arent any other tabs with that box checked or else it will conflict with the feature
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when you try to select more than one tab to as the default start up tab, it will warn you and tell you that another tab will not be default startup tab anymore.
It sounds to me, Kamal, that you are experiencing some sort of a bug, because i don't see that happening to me. Are you using some sort of a plugin for that tab? It might be conflicting or it is slow to load. Have you tried unchecking the "save memory" feature for that tab?
One thing I noticed that's also a related "bug" is that even though you check on a plugin to "activate" on startup and uncheck the save memory feature, some plugins don't load until when you hit that tab for the first time, but after that inital first time, it is loaded. Examples include rlToday and Pocket weather.

superflysocal said:
when you try to select more than one tab to as the default start up tab, it will warn you and tell you that another tab will not be default startup tab anymore.
It sounds to me, Kamal, that you are experiencing some sort of a bug, because i don't see that happening to me. Are you using some sort of a plugin for that tab? It might be conflicting or it is slow to load. Have you tried unchecking the "save memory" feature for that tab?
One thing I noticed that's also a related "bug" is that even though you check on a plugin to "activate" on startup and uncheck the save memory feature, some plugins don't load until when you hit that tab for the first time, but after that inital first time, it is loaded. Examples include rlToday and Pocket weather.
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Thanks for the reply.
I'm not using any "save memory" feature on any tab I'm using. As you said, it might be a plugin i'm using with it.
Currently I'm using HTChome, Resco Today Plugin, Newsbreak today plugin and Today Agenda.
Guess I'll have to disable one by one to see which one is the culprit.
Any other ideas?

KamaL said:
Thanks for the reply.
I'm not using any "save memory" feature on any tab I'm using. As you said, it might be a plugin i'm using with it.
Currently I'm using HTChome, Resco Today Plugin, Newsbreak today plugin and Today Agenda.
Guess I'll have to disable one by one to see which one is the culprit.
Any other ideas?
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I think maybe everyone is misunderstanding your problem... Under UL Settings/Display Tab/ Fixed Plugin Height. Check this and then all the tabs will be the same size. I have HTC Home as one of my pluggins. You may want to try 170 pixels... That's what I use. Then there's no re-shuffling stuff on the screen when pluggins activate on UL.
Hopefully that will help you out...
-Jay

make sure u have open tab on start up checked...
mine is always open via that option

New Landscape Today Screen

Hi,
I have posted this in the General Kaiser section but I guess it has been totally disregarded.
I know that there is an issue with landscape using programs such as Manilla2D. Instead of trying to reprogram and re-icon everything on there, I purpose we do this.
We know that on the Tilt, when you slide out the keyboard, a "program/registry" on there invokes a file to play a sound. Why don't someone write a small program where, instead of invoking a .wav file, when you slide open the keyboard, you start SecondToday? So when you open, SecondToday kicks in and shows you a homescreen that you can customize, and when you slide keyboard back in, it opens SecondToday again so that Manilla2D is show in portrait?
Any thoughts?
Rytt
ATT Tilt
Apr 29 Dutty's No Cube Rom

Its a smart idea, but I'm pretty sure that'll just slow the device down beyond anything and before you know it- you'd regret opening the phone

What's supposed to happen if your trying to type a text message?
If this is the case, everytime you open the keyboard, the new home screen will appear.

I rather have a functioning homescreen then a half cropped one. I would do it but I have no idea how to go about it. As it stands now, there is no solution to Manilla2D or any other today screen except a long time reworking the coding.
Someone who can write this little program can always have an option to not display SecondToday unless you are in the Today screen.
Anyways, i have tried installing Secondtoday, copied the file into \Windows and changed the sliding sound from 0.wav to SecondToday.exe and it did not work.

Rytt55 said:
I rather have a functioning homescreen then a half cropped one. I would do it but I have no idea how to go about it. As it stands now, there is no solution to Manilla2D or any other today screen except a long time reworking the coding.
Someone who can write this little program can always have an option to not display SecondToday unless you are in the Today screen.
Anyways, i have tried installing Secondtoday, copied the file into \Windows and changed the sliding sound from 0.wav to SecondToday.exe and it did not work.
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Probably because it's not a sound file.

TheChampJT said:
Probably because it's not a sound file.
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I mean I changed it in the registry, not just in windows itself......

Rytt55 said:
I mean I changed it in the registry, not just in windows itself......
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I know, but the sliding event is set to play a sound file, not run an executible file.

as for the memory, I am running both Manilla2d and weatherpanel with the looping animated icons via secondtoday. It takes a little longer to load from a reset/first boot, but after that I switch between both today screens nearly instantaneously. I actually think you're on to something here. Dunno about other devices, but for us Kaiser owners, this could be something to look into - even if it turns out to be little more than proof of concept.

Wouldn't that effectively mean you have loaded all the plugins twice in the memory. Seems like a good concept, but the useable practicality of it is outweighed by the mem hogging / slowness it would produce imho.

Just look at this guys.
Touch Dual have this 'option'. when you slide out the keyboard it runs the HTC acton screen. nearly same thing does Raphael. So i think its just a matter of good registry tweaking here. Or maybe doing a small program for that. Just an idea.
You could look up the TouchDual.
Cheers,
Chris

ThrottleLauncher can do it.
Load the current ThrottleLauncher TF3D today screen. It has a completely different landscape setup (lots of create new email type buttons). Once you've established what your after, you can edit the XML files to create your own Today screens

Lynehammike said:
Load the current ThrottleLauncher TF3D today screen. It has a completely different landscape setup (lots of create new email type buttons). Once you've established what your after, you can edit the XML files to create your own Today screens
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We're talking about Manilla2D.

kristoff_sz said:
We're talking about Manilla2D.
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Perhaps you should re-read the first quote.
Manilla2D was given as an exemplar of what one might do with a landscape today screen. The question was not limitted to this package. ThrottleLauncher is a perfect solution.

wouldn't any of this cause the screen orientation to take longer to switch?

Finally!
I am glad that some of you are thinking this is an great idea!
I hope it'll be pretty easy to come up with something like SecondToday. I don't mind it being slow but sitting at my computer looking at a messed up today erks me lol.