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XDA2i Camera worse than XDAII?

Even though the XDAIIi cam is 1.3mp the images it produces are awfull!
The upgrade from 0.3mp to 1.3mp is a big selling point for this device, and some people are making the upgrade based on this alone!
Ive taken a couple of pics for you guys to compare.
Any confirmations or comments are welcome!

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OK bro!
From the 3 photos posted the one by XDA II is definitely the best.
Have you make sure the XDA IIi got its best setting for the resolution concerned like its ambience, contrast, saturation, gamma and sharpness?
I would like to upgarde to IIi if its available in my country but now I have second thought after seeing its camera capability. I hope when it's release it would have the camera issue resolved.

Well, it looks worse but it may just be your brightness, contrast, etc..
Hey, BTW, when did XDAII start taking photos at 480x960? Mine can only do 480X640 no matter how I tweak the settings... Did I miss something?

dewild1 said:
Well, it looks worse but it may just be your brightness, contrast, etc..
Hey, BTW, when did XDAII start taking photos at 480x960? Mine can only do 480X640 no matter how I tweak the settings... Did I miss something?
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Well spotted!
No, that was my mistake it was only 480x640.
Thanks for the feedback guys.
I have tinkered with the settings somewhat, I tried to match them before taking the shots and have tinkered with the XDAIIi settings alone to try and improve it aswell, however no luck.
There is a 'night' settings on the IIi although it makes the pics even worse, and has white flecks all over the image!
It's such a shame, WM2003 SE is great! Integrated WiFi is awesome!
This cam really lets it down though.

I've finally made my decision:
Mines going back. It just doesn't cut it.
So then, how long before the next WM device from O2?
And what can we expect?

upgrade the ROM and see~
Have U ungrade ur ROm to i-mate's latest ROm? I realize that the camera's "nightmode" indeed remove those white flecks. But I admit my xdaII's camera (WM2003SE download from xda-developer) is nicer than the original PDA2's camera
On my PDA2,I reckon the resolution is much higher; it's hard to tell on computer screen but once U magifiy it (ZOOM in) then U will find L is L (640x480) and why we need XL 1024x640
The next concern: anyone know any patch or .cab to improve the camera spec in order to get better quality of pic? cheers~

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The quality very depends on the settings and adjustments. I took 5 pics(3 indoor,2 outdoor)with my Himalaya(VGA Cam). There are too many differences which causes the adjustments. Take a look...

camara quality on the xda2 i suck's

i got an xda 2i believeing it will be better than the xda2.
everything is good in it but it dosen't have the fonix voice dail as promised.
and the camera suck's big time.
is there any upgrade for the camera?
if yes can someone post it here?
thanks in advance.

fonix voice dail is on the seperate disk in the box you have to install it
as for the camera i havn't really used it yet

as for cmos cameras in general then i never found one which had a quality i felt was good
Mpixels dont seem to matter much
it's cmos vs. dcc (the type used in real digicams)
cmos just cant seem to get colours right
and are pretty sensitiv to bright light and dimm light and...
and the optics in them are poor aswell
but i hear people say that some sony E and nokia have a better quality
but i've never seen good quality myself
also read that nokia is putting propper optics in some cam soon
but that dont solve the cmos tech issues

But have you seen the quality of Nokia's 6630/6680 and of course the amazing SE K750i. Those of the K750i are really of an quality that you can go to the shop and let them be printed on photopaper (or do it at home of course). And look how small the phone is! It has by far the best camera of all (western) cameraphones and they achieved to put it in such a small package. I don't know what HTC were thinking with these crappy ass camera's. Why put in a camera when it's almost completely useless? Better let it out and save some money. Hopefully the new ones will be better (althought the pics I've seen taken with the HTC Hurricane aren't impressive either).

What settings for camera ?

Had my Exec for a week now. Love it
Wondered what settings you guys use for camera as the results I am getting are very poor.
Similar to what I got from my I-mate Jam before they released the camers patch.Do you think it is a hardware issue or software ?
Cheers
Paul

My camera is about a billion times better than my Jam was, and I haven't changed my JJ's default settings. I assume the Exec will be the same defaults....
Contrast: 5
Brightness: 4
Saturation: 4
Hue: 5
Sharpness: 5

I have tried changing all the default settings ,get little or generally no improvement.
This is exactlly the same problem I had with the Jam until it was patched !!

I'm afraid I'm at a loss, like I say my JasJar photos are extremely good compared to my old Jam, even after the Jam had the updated software installed.
Maybe it is a hardware issue you have? Can anyone else back me up here? Or are other people finding that their pictures are of poor quality, too?
I'll try and find something decent to take a test photo of to compare, but I'm in the office at the moment, which is very uninspiring!

Since my JJ is my first PDA with a camera it's hard for me to compare and certainly it's not fair to compare it to my digital camera. I will say though that I've been pleasantly surprised by the quality and believe now that I'll use the camera more than I originally thought I might.
If the JJ had also been offered with a non-camera version I likely would have bought that one, but now I'm glad that I didn't have that choice. It's nice having a camera available any time without carrying around another piece of equipment.
As for settings, I haven't done a lot of playing around with them but I have noticed that to take just about anything indoors the general "night" setting works best for me. The others just seem to grainy. (Of course maybe I just need more light in my house!) Without any other tweaking though, "night" ends up working as an indoor setting.

Prophet camera worse since dopod ROM update

Hi,
I had an german o2 XDA NEO, and for one day played with the original settings.
At the time I thought the camera worked very well, and didnt think much of it.
After upgrading to dopod ROM via crossvendor thread, I get the feeling the camera is worse. When I'm in 'shooting' mode, looking through the 'viewfinder' everthing is VERY VERY blurry.
I'm sure it wasn't so bad with the o2 image.
Anyone else had the same expierence?
Thanks.

Forgot to switch back from macro-mode?
The neo has the macro-mode ring on the lens as all other Prophet models? You didn't leave it on macro by any chance . . . ?

I wish it were that easy. The refresh rate of the screen just seems so slowwww, so everything takes a while to become clear. It's just wierd.... :?

Serious lag on camera after Dopod ROM
egg said:
I wish it were that easy. The refresh rate of the screen just seems so slowwww, so everything takes a while to become clear. It's just wierd.... :?
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Yes, I too have experienced this very blurry and laggy response from the camera since having switched to the same Dopod ROM from Oranges M600 ROM. Additionally, the images seem to be more specled with blue dots. Not the case before! I hope someone will release a camera patch/update to solve this problem, as I was very happy with the photo quality before.
However, having said that, I wouldn't switch back to my old Orange ROM, as this novendor id ROM from Dopod is great in every other way!

Re: Serious lag on camera after Dopod ROM
mackaby007 said:
egg said:
I wish it were that easy. The refresh rate of the screen just seems so slowwww, so everything takes a while to become clear. It's just wierd.... :?
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Yes, I too have experienced this very blurry and laggy response from the camera since having switched to the same Dopod ROM from Oranges M600 ROM. Additionally, the images seem to be more specled with blue dots. Not the case before! I hope someone will release a camera patch/update to solve this problem, as I was very happy with the photo quality before.
However, having said that, I wouldn't switch back to my old Orange ROM, as this novendor id ROM from Dopod is great in every other way!
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Have you experimented with the camera settings? Maybe the new ROM has different default values.

Re: Still pooooor quality photos
Matterhorn said:
mackaby007 said:
egg said:
I wish it were that easy. The refresh rate of the screen just seems so slowwww, so everything takes a while to become clear. It's just wierd.... :?
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Yes, I too have experienced this very blurry and laggy response from the camera since having switched to the same Dopod ROM from Oranges M600 ROM. Additionally, the images seem to be more specled with blue dots. Not the case before! I hope someone will release a camera patch/update to solve this problem, as I was very happy with the photo quality before.
However, having said that, I wouldn't switch back to my old Orange ROM, as this novendor id ROM from Dopod is great in every other way!
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Have you experimented with the camera settings? Maybe the new ROM has different default values.
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Yep, just adjusted the settings in various ways and different ambient settings and took pictures of the same room with the same light exposure etc. Definately degraded photo quality. Looks more like 1.3 megpixels as opposed to 2MP! I'm seriously dissapointed as I use the camera quite often, but would not trade the features of a PPC phone for a dedicated cam/phone like Sony Ericsson.
On the Orange ROM, I must admit, the pictures were not at all far behind that of my old SE K750i, an IMHO even more impressive in macro mode.
Anyway it looks like the old HTC camera software offering of the older devices and they usually got a camera patch to improve things, so I'll keep my fingers crossed. :wink:
HTC Prophet (was an Orange M600)
Sim unlocked (using Lokiwiz03 - now using o2 Sim)
ROM version: 2.15.13.27 WWE
ROM date: 3/9/06
Radio version: 02.19.21
Protocol version: 4.1.13.09
ExtROM version: 2.15.13.121

Camera settings need changing on Dopod ROM
Ok have been testing some more and for those of you who need your photos to look half decent or even good on with the new Dopod ROM only, try these settings within viewfinder mode :Tools/adjust
Contrast = 4
Brightness = 4
Saturation = 4
Hue = 5
Sharpness = 6
These settings have made quite an improvement on the photo quality resulting in noversaturated pictures and extreming 'whiting' caused by too much brightness and contrast. Lastly the sharpness invrease value of 1 to 6 from the default 5 has also improved picture quality for me.
Hope this helps someone else too.

Low quality on my photos

I have been trying my new Trinity and I think it is the best phone I have had. But after comparing some photos with my old K700 I have realized that the quality of them are very low, bad colors, pixeled, etc...
Is it because of the hardware or maybe the software included? Anyone has noticed that?

I have the same problem. I tried to make some adjustments ... nothing helpped

SrAgaporni said:
I have been trying my new Trinity and I think it is the best phone I have had. But after comparing some photos with my old K700 I have realized that the quality of them are very low, bad colors, pixeled, etc...
Is it because of the hardware or maybe the software included? Anyone has noticed that?
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A rom upgrade, even with an official wm5 rom including a newer camera application can help a lot. Roms with gps normally have a camera upgrade, a newer wm6 rom with the latest camera could be better.
With mine, a wm6 coocked rom, photos are good during dayligts and too yellow in the night. But no pixeled at all, at least at 2M resolution...
Ciao

I have upgraded my phone with WM6 (Indigo version) and it seems the quality of the photos also have been upgraded. Now my photos in night mode are great, always that I don't move the camera, but I think they should be even better. Any software to manage the camera?

i have indigo too and i like the photo quality.i think it´s better than the official rom.