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MySpace.com blocked?

I can't figure out a way to get to MySpace.com via the phone's browser. Any attempt to visit the URL just gives me an ad for the Android app (which I hate). There are links to the (worthless) mobile site and the desktop version of the site, but the link they provide to the desktop version just gets intercepted by their stupid advertisement again, making it inaccessable. Does anybody know a workaround for this problem?
I really wish there was a browser setting to tell the browser to just identify itself as a desktop browser instead of a mobile one, I can't stand it when I get automatically redirected to a mobile version of a site every time I visit it.

Welcome to the world without Microsoft where everything is called "OPEN" but your every move is limited and controlled.
I have noticed many other "controls" in the browser which I hate. None of that stuff ever happens on MICROSOFT products, everything is REALLY open, not "open source dictatorship", Google style.

yea that myspace desktop version being unavailable is really annoying being that the desktop version works better and faster than the myspace app itself....i dnt even understand how it is blocked and y!!!!

brooklynite said:
Welcome to the world without Microsoft where everything is called "OPEN" but your every move is limited and controlled.
I have noticed many other "controls" in the browser which I hate. None of that stuff ever happens on MICROSOFT products, everything is REALLY open, not "open source dictatorship", Google style.
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This has nothing to do with the phone. This has to do with the website itself. You never have these issues on MS products because MS products don't let the webserver know if it is a mobile browser.
I like your misguided conspiracy theory thou... keep it up.

surely you can change how the client identifies itself, im sure this is in IE settings, or was that opera, or a reg setting, ho hum ...

chefgon said:
I can't figure out a way to get to MySpace.com via the phone's browser. Any attempt to visit the URL just gives me an ad for the Android app (which I hate). There are links to the (worthless) mobile site and the desktop version of the site, but the link they provide to the desktop version just gets intercepted by their stupid advertisement again, making it inaccessable. Does anybody know a workaround for this problem?
I really wish there was a browser setting to tell the browser to just identify itself as a desktop browser instead of a mobile one, I can't stand it when I get automatically redirected to a mobile version of a site every time I visit it.
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Just go to home.myspace.com and you will be taken directly to the desktop version

Solution...
just type in us.myspace.com and the desktop version will come up...

aad4321 said:
I believe that windows mobile phones do allow website to know that it is running a mobile version. Thats why when you go to so many websites via a WM phone it takes you automatically to the mobile version.
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It doesn't work correctly half the time. I am a web developer and have had more issues with the wings browser than the G1's.. There is a reg setting but I can't change other peoples reg settings.
And before you know it we will have the same settings on the G1 to do similar things.

Possible to run Tetherbot on an RC-30 G1?

My G1 is two days old so came from the shop (T-Mobile, UK) with Android RC-30 already on. I've been trying to use it as a modem for my laptop on public transport (without success).
So far I have Tetherbot installed and the Socks service started on 1080, Android SDK is installed on the lappy (Ubuntu 8.04 LTS) and 'adb forward tcp:1080 tcp:1080) creates a port to which I can telnet to (and terminate from by pressing return). FF is configured to use a manual proxy on localhost:1080..
Also set the about:config network.proxy.socks_remote_dns flag to true.
All good, except when I enter any URL into FF, the status bar immediately shows 'Done' yet there's no rendering being done at all - still looking at a blank screen.
I've yet to try FoxyProxy which I'll give a go tonight - but I was wondering if it is currently possible to configure a instance of RC-30 w/o root access at all? Reading around, some people say it is while others say it isn't..
Many thanks,
Duncan

Definitely works in ota RC30. Snippet from the Tetherbot thread:
Make sure that you set FoxyProxy to use SOCKS for DNS lookups(under Global Settings)...this stumped me too at first
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Thanks! Web-browsing now works with FoxyProxy although I have to keep re-entering the ./adb forward tcp:1080 tcp:1080 command every few minutes..
Setting up the port-bouncer for ssh on 22 was less successful though, as it usually causes the Tetherbot application to crash.
Any ideas why T-Mobile wouldn't want you to use the phone as a modem anyway? Having come from an O2/Xda package I'd just expected that all modern phones would work as modems. Shame about the root lock-down too, I was half hoping for a meaningful bash shell and porting/installing Gnu utils, etc.
I guess the G1 would have the same data problems even if it were paired with a tablet like the N-800?
Many thanks,
Duncan

dsmith1974 said:
Any ideas why T-Mobile wouldn't want you to use the phone as a modem anyway? Having come from an O2/Xda package I'd just expected that all modern phones would work as modems.
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My guess is it has to do with anticipated network usage. I don't know how tethering works with data plans in the UK, but generally in the US unlimited data is divided into handset-only and full unlimited (e.g. for pc cards). Not only is data usage generally lower for mobile applications, you're also highly limited by battery life.
Shame about the root lock-down too, I was half hoping for a meaningful bash shell and porting/installing Gnu utils, etc.
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A lot of people were hoping for that. The G1 isn't that device though. Full unencumbered shell access would just be a nightmare from a customer service POV. The G1 is first and foremost a consumer device. A lot of those people could end up easily and irreversibly bricking their phones from a root shell.

Yeah i hear that, thats why i really dont care if i have root access. I'm sure in time all that we are wishing for will come out for g1, dont wanna ruin my phone!!! All i really want is internet sharing on mine.

A lot of people were hoping for that. The G1 isn't that device though. Full unencumbered shell access would just be a nightmare from a customer service POV.
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It has nothing to do with customer service, but T-Mobile's desire to retain control over things. They probably don't want people to do internet sharing, because it will slow down their network. What they don't realize, is that soon there are going to be a lot of unlocked android phones available which wont be subject to their policies.
What I don't get is that with any other HTC device you can boot the phone into SPL mode and flash a new image. With the G1, that is not possible.

Datruesurfer said:
It has nothing to do with customer service, but T-Mobile's desire to retain control over things. They probably don't want people to do internet sharing, because it will slow down their network. What they don't realize, is that soon there are going to be a lot of unlocked android phones available which wont be subject to their policies.
What I don't get is that with any other HTC device you can boot the phone into SPL mode and flash a new image. With the G1, that is not possible.
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Your speculations are incorrect. T-Mobile stated that they will not stop or block internet sharing, but they will not help you either. Basically they remain neutral and that is why you think T-Mobile is against you.
Google blocked the usb mode image flash. So far we just don't know how to flash a new image because we are not sure if it is supposed to be DREA100.IMG or what is even in the image itself.
Back on topic, I think you will see a real solution when Android 1.0 is released. Or at least have a way to get full root. Basically from what has been said root was locked down not because of anything we did but because the source is not open yet. They are working on things behind the scenes and they need to finish those before they want us to fool around. Give them time to finish their projects and then they will let us start our own.

Datruesurfer said:
It has nothing to do with customer service, but T-Mobile's desire to retain control over things. They probably don't want people to do internet sharing, because it will slow down their network. What they don't realize, is that soon there are going to be a lot of unlocked android phones available which wont be subject to their policies.
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It's funny you should make that statement in a thread about tethering on OTA RC30. Almost like you didn't know what the heck you were talking about...

neoobs said:
Your speculations are incorrect. T-Mobile stated that they will not stop or block internet sharing, but they will not help you either. Basically they remain neutral and that is why you think T-Mobile is against you.
Google blocked the usb mode image flash. So far we just don't know how to flash a new image because we are not sure if it is supposed to be DREA100.IMG or what is even in the image itself.
Back on topic, I think you will see a real solution when Android 1.0 is released. Or at least have a way to get full root. Basically from what has been said root was locked down not because of anything we did but because the source is not open yet. They are working on things behind the scenes and they need to finish those before they want us to fool around. Give them time to finish their projects and then they will let us start our own.
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A few things...
1. The source code has already been published (minus a few hardware specific drivers) at source.android.com. You can build an image from source and boot it on the emulator that Google has packaged with the android sdk. There still is no way to load said image on a G1 unless you have root of course.
2. Google didn't lock down SPL on the dream, HTC did. And it was probably because T-Mobile didn't want people loading their own firmware on a device that is already running on open source software.
3. Ever since this root nonsense has come to light, I don't buy the whole neutrality thing. If everyone had root access, we would have a much easier way to tether.
@jashu: I know exactly what I'm talking about because I tried doing the same thing on my friends G1 with the official RC30 firmware on it.

Datruesurfer said:
A few things...
1. The source code has already been published (minus a few hardware specific drivers) at source.android.com. You can build an image from source and boot it on the emulator that Google has packaged with the android sdk. There still is no way to load said image on a G1 unless you have root of course.
2. Google didn't lock down SPL on the dream, HTC did. And it was probably because T-Mobile didn't want people loading their own firmware on a device that is already running on open source software.
3. Ever since this root nonsense has come to light, I don't buy the whole neutrality thing. If everyone had root access, we would have a much easier way to tether.
@jashu: I know exactly what I'm talking about because I tried doing the same thing on my friends G1 with the official RC30 firmware on it.
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1. Google hasn't released the entire source code, even they have said that officially on the android site.
2. Google asked HTC to do that.
3. Google is the one that locked down root not T-Mobile. Again this goes back to them not having 1.0 released.

Datruesurfer said:
@jashu: I know exactly what I'm talking about because I tried doing the same thing on my friends G1 with the official RC30 firmware on it.
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Not only does this convince me you don't know what you're talking about, it also leads me to believe you don't know what you're doing either. Just because you can't figure out the simple instructions to perform socks-based tethering when everyone else already has doesn't mean it is broken.
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3. Google is the one that locked down root not T-Mobile. Again this goes back to them not having 1.0 released.
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Android was 1.0 at the launch of G1. See the official release notes.
Thread is going off topic.

jashsu said:
Android was 1.0 at the launch of G1. See the official release notes.
Thread is going off topic.
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it is 1.0 RC30... meaning it is still beta. Not released yet.
This thread should have been closed quite some time ago.

Just fine on OTA RC30, Vista. I had to use Proxifier as I prefer Chrome to Firefox, but it works just fine. ADB crashes on very high performance downloads, but otherwise its fine.

rc-30 ?? i think not
dsmith1974 said:
My G1 is two days old so came from the shop (T-Mobile, UK) with Android RC-30 already on. I've been trying to use it as a modem for my laptop on public transport (without success).
So far I have Tetherbot installed and the Socks service started on 1080, Android SDK is installed on the lappy (Ubuntu 8.04 LTS) and 'adb forward tcp:1080 tcp:1080) creates a port to which I can telnet to (and terminate from by pressing return). FF is configured to use a manual proxy on localhost:1080..
Also set the about:config network.proxy.socks_remote_dns flag to true.
All good, except when I enter any URL into FF, the status bar immediately shows 'Done' yet there's no rendering being done at all - still looking at a blank screen.
I'v
e yet to try FoxyProxy which I'll give a go tonight - but I was wondering if it is currently possible to configure a instance of RC-30 w/o root access at all? Reading around, some people say it is while others say it isn't..
Many thanks,
Duncan
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Duncan, I think you should have another look at what device you have, tmouk devices came out with rc-7 and an ota put them upto 8, so before you start askin questions get your facts right. Also it wasn't tmobile alone that blocked the device being used as a modem it was a joint effort between htc google and tm to promote the use of the open source to its full potential. It also doesn't breach any fair use using the hset as a modem which if it 'wasnt' allowed then you would be breaching the fair use. Ta

jashsu said:
Definitely works in ota RC30. Snippet from the Tetherbot thread:
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Thanks this helped me a lot.

Anyone use Monilink?

I used to use Monilink a lot on my old Nokia. It is a Java app which you use to manage your bank account, it comes direct from your bank.
Anyone managed to use it under Android? I can't even get the wap push message to arrive when I register. I think it is arriving but the phone is ignoring it because when I put my sim in a different phone the message arrives every time!

doesn't work.
use the text message service from your bank.
There's a new version of the software coming out 1st weekend of December which will work with newer touchscreen phones, but still nothing for android or windows mobile yet.
the download link is just wap.monilink.co.uk/download.wml
i'd stick with the text alerts.

ballandbiscuit said:
I used to use Monilink a lot on my old Nokia. It is a Java app which you use to manage your bank account, it comes direct from your bank.
Anyone managed to use it under Android? I can't even get the wap push message to arrive when I register. I think it is arriving but the phone is ignoring it because when I put my sim in a different phone the message arrives every time!
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Wow, I didn't think anyone used MoniLink anymore! I was on the testing team for the bank when it was first launched, it never seemed to take off.
rhedgehog is right, looks like it will be coming out shotly, its just in testing, but this is not for Android / WM, they are not looking at this yet.

I used to find it quite good for quickly checking balances etc. Have to investigate the sms option to see if you can just send a text and they reply with balance etc. Perhaps before long the banks will make a version of internet banking with formatting for iphone/android etc as the full blown sites are rather clunky and slow when on the mobile.

Yes, you can. Each bank has a slightly different number, but in general you text BAL or MINI to that nuimber and it sends you back your balance or a mini statement.

ballandbiscuit said:
I used to find it quite good for quickly checking balances etc. Have to investigate the sms option to see if you can just send a text and they reply with balance etc. Perhaps before long the banks will make a version of internet banking with formatting for iphone/android etc as the full blown sites are rather clunky and slow when on the mobile.
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Don't think you'll really ever get that from mainstream banks, especially the one I work out. It seems their attitute to mobile banking is that the industry changes too much and they can't afford resources to suit every mobile phone.
With computers, you have the main browsers like IE, FireFox, Safari, so they make it work for those, but others are a bonus. There are so many platforms and browsers for mobile, they just won't do it.
The bank I work for made me laugh when the iPhone came out and they advertised that their internet banking was made iPhone friendly like they made it like that, truth is, they just got lucky!

sad thing is, monilink are just releasing a version for the iphone. They are then updating for the other mainstream touchscreen phones (nokias and samsungs etc) in december...but nothing for us.
Sucks really.

Java
I would also like to get this running,
I am getting the message through with a link to download the app, I then paste this link into my java Midlet Manager, IE opens and and says it cant find the link, I f I was able to get this downloaded i dont see why it wouldnt run in the Midlet Manager ?
Any halp will be much appreciated.
Merry Christmas

I find using NatWest online banking on Hero quite ok. I used to use monilink on my windows mobile phones as the opera browser seemed incompatible. But all the browsers I tried on Android work without any problems.

Service-provider has messed with Opera and IE

My Hong Kong service provider, CSL, who supplied my HD2, has messed with the Opera and ie apps. They've put in a bar at the top advertising their own website, MyNet, and I can't see how to get rid of it. It takes up about 25% of the screen real estate. Any ideas how they did it and how to get rid of it?

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My Hong Kong service provider, CSL, who supplied my HD2, has messed with the Opera and ie apps. They've put in a bar at the top advertising their own website, MyNet, and I can't see how to get rid of it. It takes up about 25% of the screen real estate. Any ideas how they did it and how to get rid of it?
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I'd recommend flashing the 1.48 ROM to get rid of that. You'll need to read about Goldcard, but it's currently free, and will allow you install an official HTC ROM.
Goldcard stuff is here...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=591239
The official ROM thread is here...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=577717
I expect you'll have plenty of questions about this process. Don't be afraid to ask the guys in those threads for help. Just make sure you've read all the posts first, as there's lots of help already out there.
Good luck

This sounds like the same irritating CSL MyNet "service" they tried to provide to me.
If it's the same thing then it's easy to disable.
In addition to the MyNet tab there are two other tabs to the right. The 3rd is "Customer Service". Near the bottom of this tab is a section for "1O1O MyNet setting" which provides an option to disable MyNet toolbar. After you do this you will then get a warning about having to pay for data accessed outside "MyNet" but I think this is nothing special as presumably you have some data plan already. The warning only comes up at the time when you disable the "service".
I don't know whether this is just a coincidence, but once this toolbar was disabled I found that Opera's zoom (which had stopped working properly sometime around when MyNet toolbar first appeared) was working properly again.
BTW I can't see how to re-enable it once it is disabled. (Not that I want to do so, it's just my nature to want to know how to reverse whatever changes I make ...)

[Q] Android 3.1 & Proxy Settings

So I just got my asus transformer the other day, and coming from an avid iPhone/iOS background, I feel a bit let down. In no way am I a fanboy, but theres issues im having with this android device that have never been as such with iOS.
Mainly, proxy settings! I was fortunate enough to get my device a day before the 3.1 update came out, and the update brought with it native support for manually setting the proxies.
unfortunately, these settings dont work. I set it up to work with my workplaces proxy server and even though the info is there, they dont work. not only that, they only apply to the browser. Two huge issues!! Now most people would just discard the device and go back to what theyre used to, but I want to give this device a chance before I (possibly) return it to the store.
Are there any apps for 3.1 that set a UNIVERSAL proxy setting? Something that not only will work, but also apply the proxy settings to youtube, the market place, and anything else that runs on the device. Before the update came out, I tried using AnyCut to setup a shortcut to the hidden proxy settings, but even then it was shoddy at best. Half the time id click on the link and it wouldnt even open up the proxy settings page. (note, Half. it did work sometimes)
Essentially, if I cant get this thing to run at work, its going back and will be exchanged for an Acer Iconia running win7. I really hope theres a solution here!

Yeah, I'm quite disappointed with the proxy support in they included in the update. If they couldn't apply it to everything, at least update the core apps to use it. I mean, I can't even get my email over the proxy.

i used to use TransProxy on my phone and it worked great.

you may not be happy about a honeycomb tablet, but a Windows 7 tablet wil absolutely drive you mad ..
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using XDA Premium App

so I searched for TransProxy in the market place. and found something called ProxyDroid.
tried it, what the hell, and it works Better. I still cant get the facebook app / mobile facebook site to work. but its a step ahead of the silly native proxy support. hmmm never had to go through any of this crap on my iPhone. grr