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Wisbar and Wisbar Desktop - Or SIMILAR SHAREWARE ?

Hi all,
I am a Newbie here !!
Just wondering if anyone here has the Latest WORKING VERSION of Wisbar and Wisbar Desktop . or Something Similar In Shareware Category
jeasbe'

you can download a working version from www.lakeridgesoftware.com

QuaCKeReD said:
you can download a working version from www.lakeridgesoftware.com
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Thanx ! It says : Price: $9.99 USD
I just spent on the New Phone....
I was wondering if ...........any thing that keeps on working forever
(anything Similar that does Not Put Load on the 200 Mhz like the O2 Plus

jeasbe said:
QuaCKeReD said:
you can download a working version from www.lakeridgesoftware.com
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Thanx ! It says : Price: $9.99 USD
I just spent on the New Phone....
I was wondering if ...........any thing that keeps on working forever
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Well, if you buy it, there's no reason it shouldn't.

chris who writes the software does an awsome job and deservs all the support he can get. if u can spend the $$$ on a nice pda spend some on the best software u can use

Jeasbe,
I am sorry mate but it is people like you that makes it so hard for developers to continue all their hard work, you should be banned forever from this forum.
Sorry to everyone else I will climb down my soapbox now.

Mikebj said:
Jeasbe,
I am sorry mate but it is people like you that makes it so hard for developers to continue all their hard work, you should be banned forever from this forum.
Sorry to everyone else I will climb down my soapbox now.
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Well said mike - we wont make you PM at the moment, maybe a MP though! :wink:

Mark,
We are into development our selfes so it really makes me loose it when I see requests like this.
I guess people simply dont realize how many man hours is spent on developing, testing, remove bugs, more testing etc., to finally see some clever kid crack the security (if any) and give it away for free, or even worse selling compiled CD's with all the latest software on Ebay.
LOL I am really sorry, just cant help my self.
*Mike swiftly climbs dow again*

Mikebj said:
Mark,
We are into development our selfes so it really makes me loose it when I see requests like this.
I guess people simply dont realize how many man hours is spent on developing, testing, remove bugs, more testing etc., to finally see some clever kid crack the security (if any) and give it away for free, or even worse selling compiled CD's with all the latest software on Ebay.
LOL I am really sorry, just cant help my self.
*Mike swiftly climbs dow again*
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I totally agree mike it really bugs me too -$10 is nothing for a program, most PPC programs are cheap, so its not a problem really. Out of interest what software do you develop?

Mark,
We are working on a very promising program right now, and all I can say at the moment is that it has something to do with an alternative to Itunes for Ipod's.
Othervise we work for companies developing frontends for their databases like MS SQL Server, and Access(though that is getting less and less) either as stand alone programs or integrated as a dynamic website.
We have just replaced our phones with O2 XDA Mini S(don't know how we could ever live without them lol) and have all ready had some ideas for a few pieces of software/utilities for them, so lets see when we can find the time to do something about it.
All I need now is a Tom Tom kit so my Ipaq can go in the car and be upgraded to my super navigator lol.

Mikebj said:
Mark,
We are working on a very promising program right now, and all I can say at the moment is that it has something to do with an alternative to Itunes for Ipod's.
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Well please keep the forum informed of progress of above program if possible - sounds good. I use my wizard alot for playing music - love those stereo speakers!
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It always amuses me that people can drop $300 on a new device, but somehow can't seem to afford a $10 software application.
The really sad thing is they just don't understand what an incredible bargain they're getting in a software title like WisBar.
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Just gotta wonder...

I had a go with the trial version of Wisbar, but binned it when I found the skins don't work properly when I switched to landscape mode. I'd maybe consider paying for it if it worked properly. :roll:

Hi New version now works fine with the Wizard and landscape switch
Give it a try
Jules

jeasbe: as you may have noticed, the name of this site is xda developers. Although most of us develop stuff that is free anyway, all developing takes time and effort and potential divorce settlements.
As everyone has said, spending a tiny fraction of the price of your phone on software that you will use permanently, and gain great pleasure from, is certainly worth even a little of your money. I suggest you try the trial, and if you like it, you know what to do. Wisbar is seminal software, and you will benefit from it. Whether you appreciate the memory drain etc is your choice. But there is also a lite version.
As far as I can tell, the board doesn't have a publicised policy on distributing warez. But the board members have made it clear: we don't appreciate people too cheap to pay for software that they can easily afford to buy, or too lazy to go and find their own cracks.
FYI - my personal policy is, I'm happy to discuss making cracks, since that's a developer's art, but distributing warez and cracks is for other boards. Torrent is your friend. Or a credit card.
V

Mikebj said:
Jeasbe,
I am sorry mate but it is people like you that makes it so hard for developers to continue all their hard work, you should be banned forever from this forum.
Sorry to everyone else I will climb down my soapbox now.
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Thats NOT FAIR Mate. All I said was If there is any software in the FREEWARE CATEGORY.
I never mentioned a WORD CRACK or illegal as many ppl. have done on the Forum.
Perhaps U should have read My words clearly.
I had said "I was wondering if ...........any thing that keeps on working forever"
ANYTHING means ANY THING LIKE WISBAR which is a shareware.
Its easy for us to act Arrogant and hurt one another on the forum buddy.
If U feel happy that way, Let it be.
By the way, This message was Posted By a Microsoft Certified Professional who values The Hours spent in developing anything.
Be it a Small Wisbar or a WINDOWS VISTA.
How many of us who are members here are Not having e-mule or bittorrent and are not interested in downloading the Latest OS ??
We all have our Priorities Mate and Mine was simply a shareware like Wisbar which would keep on working forever.
Thanx and Sorry If I said anything Personal
jeasbe'

Hm, I agree with all of this in a way...
But theres other ways to make money from software.
Sites that gain from advertising and offering free software with an optional donation if the program if good.

vijay555 said:
jeasbe: as you may have noticed, the name of this site is xda developers. Although most of us develop stuff that is free anyway, all developing takes time and effort and potential divorce settlements.
As everyone has said, spending a tiny fraction of the price of your phone on software that you will use permanently, and gain great pleasure from, is certainly worth even a little of your money. I suggest you try the trial, and if you like it, you know what to do. Wisbar is seminal software, and you will benefit from it. Whether you appreciate the memory drain etc is your choice. But there is also a lite version.
As far as I can tell, the board doesn't have a publicised policy on distributing warez. But the board members have made it clear: we don't appreciate people too cheap to pay for software that they can easily afford to buy, or too lazy to go and find their own cracks.
FYI - my personal policy is, I'm happy to discuss making cracks, since that's a developer's art, but distributing warez and cracks is for other boards. Torrent is your friend. Or a credit card.
V
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WELL QUOTED VIJAY,
I LIKED THE WAY u put the things.
I appreciate your suggestions and Even though some members Posts were hurting to My Ego, Your understanding Message was a relief that theer still are people in this world who dont hide from the harsh realities of the world.
In fact as I was still posting the message someone from some other corner of this lonely planet had already sent me the link for the crack and i even got a file from another friend....
As Put By VIJAY "I'm happy to discuss making cracks, since that's a developer's art, "

jeasbe said:
Mikebj said:
Jeasbe,
I am sorry mate but it is people like you that makes it so hard for developers to continue all their hard work, you should be banned forever from this forum.
Sorry to everyone else I will climb down my soapbox now.
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Thats NOT FAIR Mate. All I said was If there is any software in the FREEWARE CATEGORY.
I never mentioned a WORD CRACK or illegal as many ppl. have done on the Forum.
Perhaps U should have read My words clearly.
I had said "I was wondering if ...........any thing that keeps on working forever"
ANYTHING means ANY THING LIKE WISBAR which is a shareware.
Its easy for us to act Arrogant and hurt one another on the forum buddy.
If U feel happy that way, Let it be.
By the way, This message was Posted By a Microsoft Certified Professional who values The Hours spent in developing anything.
Be it a Small Wisbar or a WINDOWS VISTA.
How many of us who are members here are Not having e-mule or bittorrent and are not interested in downloading the Latest OS ??
We all have our Priorities Mate and Mine was simply a shareware like Wisbar which would keep on working forever.
Thanx and Sorry If I said anything Personal
jeasbe'
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Your original "subject" said something about "warez", didn't it? And as for Microsoft Certified Professional: I've got that, too. Actually, I've got a few more of those certs. The way I see it, MCP is far too easy to get. Any monkey can be trained to pass some of the easier exams using a braindump.
You'll have to learn that quality comes at a cost. And I'm sorry to say this, but so far I haven't been very impressed by the quality of some Indian "System Engineers" who have come over here and tried to take business away from me. Yes, they might be cheaper - in the beginning. But in the long run, quality and experience do make a difference, and customers tend to come back.
On the other hand, I also know some guys from India who are really very good. I'm wondering in what category to put an "MCP" from India who, after not being able to find a crack on BitTorrent, eMule or whatever has the gall to ask for one in this forum.
'nuff said.

dma97701 said:
It always amuses me that people can drop $300 on a new device, but somehow can't seem to afford a $10 software application.
The really sad thing is they just don't understand what an incredible bargain they're getting in a software title like WisBar.
:roll:
Just gotta wonder...
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IT Amuses Me even More that Some people Just joined this forum TODAY and the first thing they did was scorn at others interest for some shareare.
Anyway, to each his own

The future of the WM interface

Hey all,
a very short time ago - at least compared to most others here - I've have started playing with 'additional interfaces'. The Cube, PointUI, S2U2, HTC Album, additional helpers like FTouchFlo, etc.
These are all nice things, that goes without saying, and props to the devs. We got some really good software devs here, software hackers, tweaks, graphics guys, just good thinkers, etc.
Now what is the problem, you might ask. The problem is, it's all so very disconnected. Yes, you combine them all and make nice things, but setting it up isn't always easy (though some cooks do a great job of it), configuring it all to work nicely together is tiresome, the interfaces are not consistent with eachother, etc. We're all messing and mucking about as one man shows (or few men shows).
Now just think if we all put our efforts together, I think we could make the future ourselves.
Let's take gesturing for instance. Instead of how it works now, a general gesturing library could be made, which first off, provides more gestures, diagonals (instead of just horizontal/vertical), curves (like rotating in HTC Home), circles, etc. And now instead of just using these for general commands like now (keep that for unsupported apps), make this something each app or screen can configure/assign themselves. No more conflicts between different 'touch apps', and also very important, the gestures are the same, unlike the somewhat different gestures that are now used for the different apps.
Another thing is the interfaces. A consistent look (to the already consistant feel from above) would make the whole experience better. A general interface library could be made providing all the code for the transitions/animations, and interface parts like buttons. Everything graphical goes here, so we can all use it. Skinning everything would then also be a breeze.
With these two basic parts we could already go a long way, but the ultimate goal would be taking all the good of all projects, improve on those, and leave out the bad. For example, the cube is nice, but it's awfully limited. There could be a lot more in it. There's nothing special about HTC Album, it's just 'nicely done'.
I hope you can all imagine a bit what I mean with all the above (I try not to go into too much detail). We would all have to work together on this, but if we did, I'm quite sure we could build something that could completely replace the WM shell and would leave the iPhone as well as WM7 (if it ever comes) biting the dust. In the end, everybody who'd work on it may even get payed if we license it to a provider. I truely believe that the whole would be a lot bigger than the parts are now.
I'd expand more on 'my' vision (I'm sure other people have it as well), but it's not much use at this stage yet.
The furure is now, the future is XDA!

yess!! amen!! <3
anyway, why don't we all make open source apps? i mean i think it would be cool to make everyone work on one amazing thing..

It's an exciting notion for sure. I definitely have 100x more faith in the people here to come up with something worthwhile than I do in Microsoft, that's for sure.

That's the problem with the new applications: consistency.

personally I'd love to see pointUI release an API for its interface library. I think they have one of the most responsive and usable touchUIs. I posted this on their forum but didn't get a response.

I think this is a good idea as we have so many different gesturing projects reinventing the wheel. With a unified starting point, it could help new projects get off the ground faster.

Biggest problem: Not everybody is willing to share source codes.

Does anybody knows Xbox Media Center (XBMC) for the Xbox 1? Something like this for PPC would be the breakthrough imho..

Yes i totally agree. Having libraries that other developers can use is a great idea, or sharing code would be good. I made a post few days back about sharing the libraries but i didn't get any reply. I think i didn't make my point as clear as you
I am currently developing some apps (fringer friendly), but i am having lots of touble researching, developing POC, etc to make gestures, transitions and animations etc, which is really time consuming and takes more time from concentrating on the core functionalities of the applications.
So yes developing reusable libraries is definitly a great step that this forum can take.
Might i add, why dont we start a developers group here limited on devs who want to contribute with their code, idea to build these libraries? Where we can discuss the design and architecture of the libraries, export functions etc, needed controls etc.
We might also come up with great framwork that devs can use and sell it (as u mentioned). OpenNetCF did that, they created a large number of controls, .Net wrappers for Win32 APIs, etc, it started out as an opensource project, but then they started selling these their framework.
Hope other developers here become enthusiastic about this idea as we are

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Does anybody knows Xbox Media Center (XBMC) for the Xbox 1? Something like this for PPC would be the breakthrough imho..
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I started working on an similar application sometime back but dropped it cause i didn't have much time and development resources (especially cool graphical effects) to do it. Actually it was more of the MS Media Center clone.
Well this is a great place to start... we can group together and start working on an application like that....

mrabie said:
Yes i totally agree. Having libraries that other developers can use is a great idea, or sharing code would be good. I made a post few days back about sharing the libraries but i didn't get any reply. I think i didn't make my point as clear as you
I am currently developing some apps (fringer friendly), but i am having lots of touble researching, developing POC, etc to make gestures, transitions and animations etc, which is really time consuming and takes more time from concentrating on the core functionalities of the applications.
So yes developing reusable libraries is definitly a great step that this forum can take.
Might i add, why dont we start a developers group here limited on devs who want to contribute with their code, idea to build these libraries? Where we can discuss the design and architecture of the libraries, export functions etc, needed controls etc.
We might also come up with great framwork that devs can use and sell it (as u mentioned). OpenNetCF did that, they created a large number of controls, .Net wrappers for Win32 APIs, etc, it started out as an opensource project, but then they started selling these their framework.
Hope other developers here become enthusiastic about this idea as we are
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You are saying pretty much what I mean. Though the gesture thing wouldn't really be like a library, more like a service with an interface.
Anyway, setting up a dev group like this would IMHO be great (and I was thinking this myself) - we do need a larger group though. After all, if we don't want to, we don't have to share the source code, we can keep it in the group, or use a 'read-only' licence, or LGPL or something (though I'm personally not too fond of the GPL license).
I am convinced, that given enough time, I could do all of this myself. I am also convinced, that many other coders here could. But why should we?

WOW
well im no programmer or developer,just a guy with a titan, but I think you guys are talking about the perfect ui. sort of a modular system where the base ui has all the key functions and you could just plugin the core features of your choice without the need of base code for things like scrolling and gesture,etc... this makes me wonder why no ones done this yet. maybe I can learn abuot developing so I can help. incredible ui idea. thanx

I'm a designer and i'm in for this project!
Let's beat the crap out of the iphone and wm7!
Let us use the good parts from that interfaces and make it better, slicker, more beautifull!
gr. bram

Chainfire
i think there are more people getting interested in the idea... hope that more devs, designers gets interested too

Totally agree, maybe we should start getting the developers/designers (thanks bram_smulders!)/cookers and so on in this project...we could list apps, that are developed in and through this community and maybe - with a little moderation - the developers could agree on some standarts...i think that would be first step...

I'd be willing to help as well, I haven't done too much on the PPC. I've messed a little with the minshell and mintask examples in the wince6 sdk; they compile and run but don't function as expected btw.

help needed ?
Hi all, chainfire as said what i was thinking about thoses different and very nice UIs.
I'm not a developper, just a system IT, if i can help to beta-test the products of your project on my trinity..I'll do it w/ best feedback.

Hi,
I'm a french VB.net developper (even on WM, of course) and I can help that way. if u want !
let me know ( cyril [at] rebreyend {dot} com )

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I wouldn't mind working towards the goals outlined for a project like this. I'm especially fond of a gesture library of sorts, as well as a fully functional kinetic scrolling lib.
You can always PM if anything gets started .

I think also that instead of starting from scratch and make another PointUI Home we can try to expand an existing project... Maybe PointUI could have wrote a simili-SDK ? (or someone else ?)
I'll try to contact them, and come back here to tell how far i've been trashed
Anyone have an idea of who has already written something open source ?
P.S: Sorry for my english.

Best Software 2008 is drawing near: enter & nominate decent XDA-Devs tools!

Guys and gals,
This year’s Smartphone and Pocket PC Magazine Best Software Awards ( http://www.pocketpcmag.com/awards/ ) is getting near. I, being the Nominations Manager for the Awards, would like to invite you ALL to participate in it, regardless of whether you’re a developer or “just” a user of them.
If you’re a developer, it’d be REALLY great if you could enter the apps you’ve written in the Smartphone & PPCMag Encyclopedia ( http://www.pocketpcmag.com/_enc/cat.asp?cat=2&name=Software ; you can add new entries there too). It’s free and, then, in addition to your having your app listed in the list, it’ll be far easier for me to nominate it for the Awards if I deem it worthy enough. In the last two years, I spent DAYS of chasing down developers of top (freeware) titles like Qmail and Pocket GBA in order to being able to nominate them. I would prefer NOT having to waste so much time at contacting developers this year and asking them to enter their titles in the Encyclopedia – I have better and more productive things to do.
Being listed in the Encyclopedia, your stuff will also get far more exposure outside XDA-Devs and other “geek” sites as well.
Just like with last year, don’t think a free app can’t compete with commercial stuff out there. For example, VITO CopyPaste, Opera Mini, fring, Emu42, Google Maps Mobile, Orb, Qmail, My Mobiler, Mobipocket Reader, PHM Plus!, FuseSP etc. were all finalists, GB-SOFT Tweak, CastCE, Emu48, ScummVM, LogMeIn (Free), most of masterall’s emulators etc. were winners. Top-notch freeware titles like Dotfred’s PIM Backup or TaskMgr or Vijay555’s VJFullscreenTSC were also nominated (albeit didn’t win / become a finalist because of the very strong competition in the same category).
If you’re “just” a user of these apps, you’re also VERY strongly asked to nominate your favorites, should they not already be nominated. As a rule of thumb, all of the last year’s nominated titles are automatically re-nominated, unless there’re radical changes – for example, new titles – in the given category necessitating the un-nomination of the (comparatively) weakest titles OR the given title hasn’t been discontinued in the meantime. You can see the list of these apps – that is, the 2007 nominees / finalists / winners – at http://www.pocketpcmag.com/awards/category_all_2007_newquery.asp .
I don’t want to leave any decent, new utility I may have overlooked not nominated. With the current rate new apps and tools are released here at XDA-Devs, I just can’t keep up with all the new versions / releases, no matter how hard I try. (And I have a LOT of other things to do – for example, I’m working on a Digital TV and CDMA Bible, concentrating on a lot of EE stuff and also preparing a major speech at a W3C conference on mobile Web browsers, leaving me little time testing all the new XDA-Devs-originating stuff.)
(Also see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=300200 for my 2007 announcement – it’s a bit outdated tough.)
Remarks / comments / recommendations are welcome!

Awesome. I'm excited about this. These awards always help me find new/interesting titles to toy with.
Apart from what's on your list already, and in terms of eloquence and overall usefulness, I love the PocketCM Keyboard, and I use it all the time. In terms of functionality, I like that new Internet Connection Sharing Control (http://cleanimport.xda/index.php?threads/377047/) program. It's still in development, but the idea of it is great: finally an all-in-one utility for handling all of the various Internet sharing configurations. As far as I know, it's also the first program to let a user use their phone as a wifi adapter.

I personally think that Schaps Advanced Config is the most usefull program for what I do, but I'm not entirely sure what kind of programs are within the scopes of this...

+1 l3v5y

And for the best suite of programs, A_Cs S2 series win every time although they're not the most innovative programs in that they are just trying to copy the iPhone....

Hi Everyone,
I need to add a few points to Werner's (Menneisyys) post. (I am the owner of Smartphone and Pocket PC magazine and in charge of the awards).
First, as you might have guessed, the quality of our category structure and to a large extent the nominees is directly due to Werner's incredible efforts.
I asked Werner to get started ASAP, and his response naturally was to post here. However, as you will see we aren't as ready as we might be.
At www.PocketPCmag.com are in the middle of a conversion of data from our current rich but hodgepodge of a site, mostly written in ASP. We are moving to a cleaner, more uniform look using the Drupal Content Management System.
Because of timing, we decided to do the awards and leave the encyclopedia of software and accesssories in our current (ASP) system for now. Then probably when nominations are frozen in July we'll switch over.
However, we REALLY need to update the input form for vendors.
It looks like we'll have to do that in ASP. We are juggling a lot, and we can't commit to updating the form until at the latest, May 1.
So, the ideal from Werner and my side, would be to at least make sure your products are in the db now. Then everyone can update their information as soon as I give the OK here.
THANKS and good luck.

A_C's s2u2, s2p, s2v

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A_C's s2u2, s2p, s2v
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Totally Agree

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Totally Agree
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Nothing comes near.

Thanks guys for the feedback.
I've (being the author of several networking & hacking-related tutorials & hacks) already played a bit with CSC but still haven't had the time to test it in all possible configurations / on all my WinMo devices. Will definitely post a detailed review / evaluation on it and also nominate it for this year's Awards. (Preparing for a W3C speech, in addition to preparing my next Bibles, takes a LOT of time and work so I can't really test new software right now...)
BTW, at the General forum, there's a Dev Awards thread ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2100268 ); I'm thinking of in some way combining it with the Smartphone Mag awards structure before May.
BTW 2, speaking of last year's nominees and categories, feel free to comment on them too - what other titles would you see nominated? I prefer open discussions like this to PPCMag's (closed) user nomination system because a lot of people can chime in the discussion, making the nomination process as democratic as possible. (While, of course, I reserve the right to have the final word in nomination ).

Yeah A_C's programs are sooooo awesome!

Besides already mentioned pprgrams, i'd also add MortButtons and ThumbCal (still a beta, but already usable) to nominated applications.
Also, Mollusk's great (mostly free) games sure deserve a nomination (www.xFlib.net)

S2U2, S2V, S2P by A_C +1 for those, and I'd like to add Emunutz for his HTC HomeCustomizer and Chi Tai Dang for Battery Status

I would like to nominate Slither2006's SCLPC++ cube. It is a fantasticly useful tool in its present form and with the changes that he has stated will be in the next version, I really think that it deserves consideration. It may just be a retrofit for older PDA's, but for the vast amount of older models out there, it gives a new lease on life.

Hi,
for me....
S2U2, S2V, S2P by A_C
BYE, Bobo

S2U2, Batterystatus, PocketCM, PCM Keyboard
For me

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S2U2, Batterystatus, PocketCM, PCM Keyboard
For me
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Yup, BatteryStatus was one of the apps last year I specifically contacted the author of to be able to nominate his app - a really excellent one!
Thanks for the other suggestions.

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S2U2, S2V, S2P by A_C +1 for those, and I'd like to add Emunutz for his HTC HomeCustomizer and Chi Tai Dang for Battery Status
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See above - one of my most prioritized tasks was tracking down him and nominating his stuff last year. And, thanks for the suggestions

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Also, Mollusk's great (mostly free) games sure deserve a nomination (www.xFlib.net)
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Wowz! Thanks for mentioning them! I think I'll write a dedicated article on them - I love small "retro" games like these. (Ever seen N.I.'s Retro Games pack?)

s2U2, S2V and S2P
All 3 are Great!!

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Keep up the good work!

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Neo...you said they're available in cabs?..
They look fantastic man, amazing job, I just have this problem though...
While copying the pirate files @ the windows dir, I got a low mem msg @ 95%...
Now the damn message keeps popping up, how do I delete all these files?.. manually?
Where could I find those cabs you mention?
- oh well...fixed it Nice work, the only thing I didn't really like was the choice of backgrounds. Otherwise, a pretty good job

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Also it would be good to get information about some experiences you made. It´s a hard work, over 10, sometimes over 20 hours from the skinners to make their themes, but only a little effort, to post a critic after testing, doesn´t matter if positive or negative.

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the only negative thing i can think of is ... copyrighted materials being used...
like trademarks and pictures ,
for the rest it looks nice
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You´re right...but i don´t get any money for making this...it´s only fun. Here in the threads are the most things on a border to this question...Rom Cooking, working on _manilas and more. Noone makes official programs/ themes like these. And the most graphics i renewed, styled in another way as the originals and some are real new, made with graphic programs by myself. Excample: To cut the spider of the spiderman-logo, takes one hour of my time. And for the web i copied it out of 1 frame from the beginning of the film and edited this original web, so that you can see it on the little display. This theme takes over 20 hours, until it was ready. I try, to make these things as perfect, as i can.
Here in the threads we try to make the device more beautiful or more functional.... the manufacturer has less ideas and interests to this things. Maybe, it´s too much work and not so much to earn?! Or do you see somewhere programs, like you find here?
And it´s a good marketing for this people. If you have a theme like these or a better program, you have more identification with the diamond, with windows mobile, with film industry...you show, you are a fan of Pirates and make a little monument for it, and so on.
If I would sell these themes or get a donation for them it´s a step to far (for me), but to make it for fun without any financial interests.... who wants to see a theme with a pic of my father or me on his/her phone
Edit: I have a photo of me on the 1st bootscreen...if the phone was stolen, to rile the thieves. They were remembered to me every soft reset ;-)

thanks
Hi.. Your themes are great . Especially pirates of the carebian.
It would be great if you have terminator theme...

thanks for the immediate response man, I found a background
You posted some cool ones though
Thanks again for the theme

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You´re right...but i don´t get any money for making this...it´s only fun.
Here in the threads are the most things on a border to this question...Rom Cooking, working on _manilas and more. Noone makes official programs/ themes like these. And the most graphics i renewed, styled in another way as the originals and some are real new, made with graphic programs by myself. Excample: To cut the spider of the spiderman-logo, takes one hour of my time. And for the web i copied it out of 1 frame from the beginning of the film and edited this original web, so that you can see it on the little display. This theme takes over 20 hours, until it was ready. I try, to make these things as perfect, as i can.
Here in the threads we try to make the device more beautiful or more functional.... the manufacturer has less ideas and interests to this things. Maybe, it´s too much work and not so much to earn?! Or do you see somewhere programs, like you find here?
And it´s a good marketing for this people. If you have a theme like these or a better program, you have more identification with the diamond, with windows mobile, with film industry...you show, you are a fan of Pirates and make a little monument for it, and so on.
If I would sell these themes or get a donation for them it´s a step to far (for me), but to make it for fun without any financial interests.... who wants to see a theme with a pic of my father or me on his/her phone
Edit: I have a photo of me on the 1st bootscreen...if the phone was stolen, to rile the thieves. They were remembered to me every soft reset ;-)
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i agree but most of those companies do have nasty lawyers thats all,
but if we are talking about ideas.... for new things ..
how about an Amiga theme and make the diamond screen look like some workbench screen .and kickstart like it was on the amiga 1000
here are some old screens : http://www.gregdonner.org/workbench/wb_10.html

It would be nothing, what i would like to see on my diamond...maybe it´s interesting for other skinners.
But i thank you for your tip... i´m not angry ´bout this. I know, that some companies like to bring people to the court. Hope, that they see here, that it´s fun and support a positive image for the films and not with the reason, to harm them.

Hi!
You did a great job with these themes.
My question is: can I install the themes on any version of ROM? I use 1.93.
Thank you.

I use also 1.93 and it works. The cabs have been downloaded very often since the last days and no problems reported. I hope, it all wents okay. In every cab are only the graphic files, tsk, sometimes rings. No system files.

Hi, thanx so much for these themes, they're are fabulous. I love the Pirates theme, one thing is you don't include calendar and connecion tab to your theme any more. Thanx for all what you have done.
Hope for more beautiful themes.
Keep holding on

Graphics Designer Needed. Any amount of experience welcome!

Hello! Thanks for stopping by! I'm making an app with a friend of mine and we both are terrible at making graphics (we both code). The game is a simple dice game yet what sets it apart from other dice games is online play and a level of polish above the rest. Our code is pretty polished, even in its humble beginnings, so we are looking for a graphics designer who is willing to help show to users a polished interface.
We don't care how much experience you have as long as you're willing to learn (we can't teach you though obviously). The only thing we ask for is that you give at least 3 hours a week to the project. I believe that is not a lot to ask for. We are doing this project as a hobby and we hope to add another member (or two) to our team. Once again thank's for your time.
If you would like to know more about the app please post in the thread so other people can benefit from the information and if you have more personal questions feel free to PM me.

I'm actually interested. if it's not too time consuming I will gladly give it a try.
you can take a look at my deviant art profile to see what graphic works i normally do
http://aoisora9x.deviantart.com/
send me an email @ [email protected] if you want to contact me.

i do lots of traditional paper and pen design then move it over to digital paint.
let me know if you need some help and what your ideas and i'll toss up a few test designs you can look over.
i do very little in terms of actual 3d renders and modeling.
deviant art gallery
@sora:
nice gallery btw.

Aoi_sora9x said:
I'm actually interested. if it's not too time consuming I will gladly give it a try.
you can take a look at my deviant art profile to see what graphic works i normally do
http://aoisora9x.deviantart.com/
send me an email @ [email protected] if you want to contact me.
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Nice Deadmau5 head

not hijacking, but it'd be really cool to see resources designers kicking around here make. which could then be used in projects by devs. just putting something out there will encourage others to use it. ie. icons and so on.

MarkusPO said:
not hijacking, but it'd be really cool to see resources designers kicking around here make. which could then be used in projects by devs. just putting something out there will encourage others to use it. ie. icons and so on.
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The only problem with that is that some people don't like other people to use their work. It's the same thing with code (i.e. open source or not). In any case it would be better to submit work you would like to share on Open Clip Art instead of a thread that would be hard to upkeep and search through.
pxldtz said:
i do lots of traditional paper and pen design then move it over to digital paint.
let me know if you need some help and what your ideas and i'll toss up a few test designs you can look over.
i do very little in terms of actual 3d renders and modeling.
deviant art gallery
@sora:
nice gallery btw.
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The time it will take depends on you're proficiency with creating buttons backgrounds and stuff like that. Right now I have three people that want to work on this and I always had in mind to have different themes for this app. I'm going to ask Aoi_sora9x if he won't mind other people making other different themes. I will get back to you as soon as I can.

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The only problem with that is that some people don't like other people to use their work. It's the same thing with code (i.e. open source or not). In any case it would be better to submit work you would like to share on Open Clip Art instead of a thread that would be hard to upkeep and search through.
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i thoroughly disagree! so if a designer didn't want to share, they're not forced to post whatever they've made on here. and as xda is a large community, you never know who could be reading about your work. maybe a new forum would be best.

I think the main reason is that XDA is a developer forum and not a designer forum?
artists and designers mostly will post on art forums, like how developers will only share stuffs on developer forums. When i wanna share a new icon set, XDA is not the first place i would think of. :/

MarkusPO said:
i thoroughly disagree! so if a designer didn't want to share, they're not forced to post whatever they've made on here. and as xda is a large community, you never know who could be reading about your work. maybe a new forum would be best.
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True. The new forum idea has potential.

I would like to try that, too..
My deviantART profile: http://kanttii.deviantart.com
email: [email protected]
I'm not good with 3D modeling, but I like to create interfaces.