Hello all, I own an 8125, but I do not own a data plan. Since I have wifi at school, I want to configure my phone to where it will NEVER connect via GPRS/Edge, or any other kind of net source that will cost me money. Since i heard if you walk outside the range it will attempt to connect via cingular provided net. I really cannot afford for this to happen. So what I am trying to do is disable everything but wifi, but I dont want to permantly disable it though, as I will be getting a data plan in 6 months or so. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you.
could i use this program to do that? http://forum.xda-developers.com/vie...ays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=agile+messenger
I have a cingular 8125 on the cingular network
this would be great for me also
well i just deleted the GPRS profile from the connections...but it might have resulted in some isses with connecting to my work network
i think you will have a problem with the mms.
right :?
is there a way keeping it but not letting it to auto connect?
I had the same Problem at my university and fixed it here:
Settings->Connections->Advanced->Choose Networks
For "Programs with automatic internet access use..." I've chosen "ISP" (which has an empty profile, if not, you can edit it and delete everything).
I hope you can understand what I mean, I tried to translate as I have a German ROM.
Regards
Carsten
Carsten, I chose "My Work Network" instead and nixed the GPRS profile as the OP did. I get no more attempts to access anything except wifi when it is enabled, which is ideal for me.
I deleted the gprs thing, and it seemed to work, BUT somehow I got a $350 bill :0
I called Cingular, They were able to turn it off on there end.
They also didnt charge me for the bill
last year my daughter's fiance wanted a wizard so i gave her one to give to him.
she broke up before she gave it to the guy.
now my daughter has a new almost fiance and this guy got the wizard.
he is complaining that sometimes the wizard connects to cingular data and not to wifi.
of course he doesn't want to pay the cingular data charges so how do i disable that and limit his connectibility to wifi.
do i just make sure the data connection is turned off in connection manager or is there a better way.
thanks
irv6744 said:
he is complaining that sometimes the wizard connects to cingular data and not to wifi.
of course he doesn't want to pay the cingular data charges so how do i disable that and limit his connectibility to wifi.
do i just make sure the data connection is turned off in connection manager or is there a better way.
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Look for a cab called Modaco NoData. It allows you to turn off data access to whichever methods you don't want. I can post the cab later today. Its also found built into my xda mobile 6 rom.
thanks for the response.
i tried to download it from modaco but got an error message even though i was logged in.
finally found it on a european site and grabbed it.
thanks again.
i tried to install the cab on my g4 8125 with wm6.
NoData does not run properly.
i get a NullReferenceException
with a couple of more lines that start with System.Windows.Forms.Form etc.
any ideas how to fix this program in wm6 or turn off the edge a different way.
thanks
an old solution to this use to be to go to settings --> connections --> connections --> advanced. then from there click on select rules and change it so that both settings are set as "My Work Network". setting it to my network only connected via wifi or when wired...since i think the my isp setting might have the wireless service information.
not a 100% guarantee, since i don't use the internet either, but i've always set it this way and haven't had any connections to the internet. even when i open up ie, it doesn't try to connect to anything.
Hi, my father and his friend trashed the connection settings to his Ameo during a nation wide GPRS outage this morning, I'd like to eMail him the Network Wizard Cab if it's around. Not quite ready to upgrade his phone, I might put PK3 on for Christmas but for now the Wizard will help his finger fiddleing...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=320870&highlight=networkwizardauto
or
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=319995&highlight=htc_network
I,ve got a question abaut this wizzard. When i dont have wifi connection, mi pda takes directrly to connect via 3g (that will cost me a lot of money). I cant find where to configure (or disconfigure) to only use the wifi
Great thanks
I searched and obviously used the wrong keyword but this is great...
sedardna said:
I,ve got a question abaut this wizzard. When i dont have wifi connection, mi pda takes directrly to connect via 3g (that will cost me a lot of money). I cant find where to configure (or disconfigure) to only use the wifi
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before I had web n walk. I just used to delete the t mobile settings from the connection settings. that way it can't automatically connect.
modaco nodata works fine. It's just i'll want
Hi
Just got an Orange 3G. One annoying feature is that if it drops a WiFi connection it goes automatically to using GPRS without any indication (which thens starts to cost !!!)
Orange say you can't stop this happening. Does anyone know any trick to stop this (there is no way to keep the GPRS off as there was on my old Touch)
Be grateful for any help
As I said to the person who asked the same question a few days ago *sigh*, google nodata
petez1 said:
Hi
Just got an Orange 3G. One annoying feature is that if it drops a WiFi connection it goes automatically to using GPRS without any indication (which thens starts to cost !!!)
Orange say you can't stop this happening. Does anyone know any trick to stop this (there is no way to keep the GPRS off as there was on my old Touch)
Be grateful for any help
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You need to check how your phone is connecting.
AFAIK the orange ROM uses the unique manager not the normal HTC connection manager.
This means you dont really have a WiFi connection. Orange unique is their VOIP(??) implementation.
If you have a livebox and orange as your ISP your phone will automatically switch to using your WiFi connection for phone calls saving you money, the downside is you cant use wifi for anything else.
The only way to sort it is buy flashing a different ROM.
Orange Unique ----http://www.business.orange.co.uk/services/broadband/unique-for-business/
Hi
Thanks for the info. Been trying to sort out with Orange and same answer - disable GPRS and the WiFi stops as well !!! (One of the Orange guys even admitted that it was because they don't make money on voice now, only data). The 'nodata' fix doesn't work as it also stops the WiFi. Any thoughts on which ROM I might flash?
Thanks for your help
I'm actually an Orange employee, working for Handset Faults, and looking to solve this for a customer.
There is a rom update available from HTC, which apparently fixes this, however the customer I'm trying to resolve this for, has tried updating and his serial number shows as no available ROM.
I don't think the No-data resolution will work, so hoping if theres any other solutions you guys could suggest?
I know on my current HS, which is a Hermes, I've the communication manager, which i believe isn't available on the Touch 3G, unless debranded.
Really, I'm just trying to get more advice, so would appreciate anyone's tried and tested work-around, as i've to call said customer back tomorrow, with hopefully a resolution, but if not, then he'll have to wait till a ROM update becomes available from HTC/Orange for branded handsets.
I found a solution to this problem last night that works for me on my Touch 3G with Orange.
Enter Unique Manager - Advanced Settings - Network Adapter - My Network Card Connects to - and ensure they're all set to connect to The Internet.
I have also setup a Block GPRS connection under Settings - Connections - Conections which stop GPRS connecting and can now connect via Wifi no problem.
Bob
bobmac892 said:
I found a solution to this problem last night that works for me on my Touch 3G with Orange.
Enter Unique Manager - Advanced Settings - Network Adapter - My Network Card Connects to - and ensure they're all set to connect to The Internet.
I have also setup a Block GPRS connection under Settings - Connections - Conections which stop GPRS connecting and can now connect via Wifi no problem.
Bob
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Bob
Thanks for this - going to give it a try but when i go into Settings - Connections for the second part of your fix, where do I go next (I can't find Conections which stop GPRS connecting)
Thanks
Thanks Bob,
Will copy this and put it on my phone somehow!
Thank you very much for the advice!
Greeee
Did you manage to make it work?
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Greeee
Did you manage to make it work?
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Unfortunately, the customer cancelled their upgrade and got another handset before trying this.
Shame really!
Thanks for the help though!
petez1 said:
Bob
Thanks for this - going to give it a try but when i go into Settings - Connections for the second part of your fix, where do I go next (I can't find Conections which stop GPRS connecting)
Thanks
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Bob/Greee
Still haven't been able to work out the second part of the fix - can you help?
Thanks
I've no suggestions tbh, cause I don't own a Touch 3G, I personally run a Hermes.
I'm actually trying to follow this up, and check what Bob meant by blocking GPRS on it.
Also, would you chaps be so kind to advise me if GPS under the HTC Touch 3G uses GPRS to connect, or does it use Satelittes like a normal GPS?
Just another question my customer asked today.
Thank you,
Greeee said:
I've no suggestions tbh, cause I don't own a Touch 3G, I personally run a Hermes.
I'm actually trying to follow this up, and check what Bob meant by blocking GPRS on it.
Also, would you chaps be so kind to advise me if GPS under the HTC Touch 3G uses GPRS to connect, or does it use Satelittes like a normal GPS?
Just another question my customer asked today.
Thank you,
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The GPS will use the satelitte to get a signal (just like proper SatNavs), but if there's an A-GPS feature, it will use a tiny bit of GPRS to speed up the process.
It'll then use the GPRS (if enabled) to download maps for the local area if it there isn't a map already installed on the handset.
That's why it's always a good idea to disable GPRS when roaming, at £8/mb- it's a pricey thing to use.
However, you can normaly download maps using WiFi before you leave (if you know where you'll be going), which will save time and money on using the network for data.
I get asked that question alot too (I work for them too, in NT1- First Impressions)
It will use the GPRS for the GPS locator if you leave A-GPS selected. Fortunately you can disable A-GPS to stop this happening.
Interestingly, I can't find any real difference in the speed of 'finding' satalites between standard GPS and A-GPS.
Thanks for the advice guys.
So any ideas how to fully block GPRS traffic outgoing, unless wanted? So its WIFI only when my customer is at home?
No further movement on this one...
Anyone got any ideas, how to utilise the WIFI facility switching the Unique Phone part off, and blocking GPRS traffic?
Thank you,
NoData works on fone.......BUT
Hi I got my touch 3g couple days ago its on orange contract brilliant fone apart from cannot connect to wifi as you all know it still connects thru gprs so I downloaded Nodata installed on fone disabled gprs with it. So good so far switched on wifi thru unique manager then checked that data connection was still off and it was BRILLIANT I shouted.
My wifi was connected to my hub and data connection was off woo hoo
Started web browser and lo an behold Get the message "cannot connect with current connection settings"
As far as I am led to believe at the present time there is no way round this problem apart from installing a clean version of windows but if I am mistaken please tell me how to get around this problem.
Cheers Biggles
HTC touch Dual An a HTC touch 3G
I have the Touch 3g with Orange - but thanks to the guys on this forum I got rid of the Orange branding/mess by using a 'stock' rom and I am not now using Orange Unique. Then I did the following........but not sure if it works with the Orange Unique stuff.
As far I as I can see there is no explict way of turning GPRS off - if it is set up then it will connect to it when a program requests data. I have unlimited internet on my home network but I need to turn GPRS off when roaming abroad so I don't get charged silly amounts.
I found that the only way I can guarantee to stop the phone using GPRS is to change the name of the Access Point Name - then it cannot connect to the service. On my phone (a Touch 3g) it is under Settings, Connections, Connections, Manage Existing Connections - then edit the connection details. On mine it is Orange Internet - so edit this and get to the Access Point Name - which is orangeinternet in my case - i just take away a few letters at the end and save the settings.
At this point GPRS will not work because the Access Point Name is not correct and you will get a message from any program trying to access the internet if wifi is not enabled. To get it to work again just edit the Access Point Name back to what it was. In my case I do not have to switch the phone off/on - I can just change the Access Point Name at anytime and it works or dosn't as I require.
Hope this helps.
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On my phone (a Touch 3g) it is under Settings, Connections, Connections, Manage Existing Connections - then edit the connection details. On mine it is Orange Internet - so edit this and get to the Access Point Name - which is orangeinternet in my case - i just take away a few letters at the end and save the settings.
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Hi,
With Orange Unique there isn't any "Manage Existing Connections" that I can find - just addding new modem or VPN? Am I in the right place?
Thanks
for the benefit of people who may be subscribed to this thread, I think I have found a fix for the orange rom using data connection instead of wifi, read on here:-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4517074&postcount=12
post back to that thread if it works for you!
Is there anyway to make the phone connect to the internet using wifi before it will use alltel?
I know how to set my wifi adapter to access the internet.. But alltel data is always active and I cannot even utilize the wifi feature.
The only way i have been able to get it to use Wifi for internet is if I delete the alltel data settings. But i need them inthere incase I am not bear an open access point.
Ive searched the forum and found no relavent information. If I have missed it, please direct me to it... Thanks!
Just delete the connection. If you have a stock rom the connection will come back on its own after a restart. If on custom rom then just install an alltel carrier cab if you want it back.
So there isnt any way to keep the data and make it secondary? I go in and out of wifi coverage all day and it would be nice to have it connect to data if needed. thanks for the reply.
not that i know of
nodata utility. Lets you disable your data and just use wifi. Then when you want it back you just toggle it to enable. Worked good for me
http://www.modaco.com/content/pocket-pc-software/246171/new-free-utility-nodata/
i love how people are so quick to say "no, no & no"
then they get schooled from the autumnal equinox of 2006
nice application
i knew i had seen it before
but didn't have the linkopottamus
i love how people are so quick to say "no, no & no"
then they get schooled from the autumnal equinox of 2006
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Lol, thanks for the info, i havent been here in a couple days, but I will try it out...
I had my internet setup to use wifi before i flashed my phone the last time, but when I deleted the data connection this time, it did not work..
I obviously did something else and I cant remember what it was. I found where I could "delete settings" for alltel even after I deleted the main connection. I think that did it..
Now after that I could connect to facebook app via wifi, but IE would not work.. For that I had to go in and change the way apps that need to connect to a private network to My ISP as well.
It just seems to me that there is an easy way to do this... Would also be nice to be able to tell and change whether a program is connecting automatically to the internet or private network. I wonder if that is a registry setting that can be changed..
I also just have removed the password from the data connection. Rarely, I mean rare, when I use data as I enabled WiFi first. If I really want to use data, I punch in the password.
There was also a real cool app I saw that I forgot to tag the thread. But it would do things based on the cell tower you were using. I thought it might have had controls for WiFi as well, it definitely did for ring setting.