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guys is there a possibility for porting the wm6 MS bluetooth stack onto WM5..

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Toshiba bluetooth stack ROCKS...

I installed the Toshiba bluetooth stack on my I-Mate Jam and it ROCKS - it includes ALL the functionality/profiles missing in the MS stack!
...BUT...
It is unstable as hell (I have experienced all sort of "cosmetic" issues) and I am fairly sure this is due to the fact that both MS and Toshiba stacks try to use the same bluetooth hardware SIMULTANEOUSLY.
...SO...
has anyone figured how deinstall/reinstall the microsoft bluetooth stack on a Magician (I-Mate Jam, Qtek S-100, MDA Compact, XDA Mini)?
cseilern said:
...BUT...
It is unstable as hell (I have experienced all sort of "cosmetic" issues) and I am fairly sure this is due to the fact that both MS and Toshiba stacks try to use the same bluetooth hardware SIMULTANEOUSLY.
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So, what "ROCKS" about it?
Always do full backup b4 installing sware.
it does what the MS BT stack does (serial port, headset, activesync), but also adds other profiles (pan, dun, obex, ftp, chat + others from memory)
i.e send files/chat with other mobile phone users, access bt pan, etc... though i am only interested in pan, chat and obex
when i fisrt played with it, i immediately saw why everyone whinges with the bt stack...
it's excellent and stable for me, didn't expierence any bugs...
dutty:
Did you get pan working ?
If so can you please let me know how?
Thanks,
Martin
I'm kinda interested ...
Can u please post a copy of that Toshiba Bluetooth stack u're using so we can all have a chance to have a look at it and maybe modify it to work on our phones
uh, just started the service, restarted the device and connected to it!
BUT, i also installed the toshiba BT stack on my workstation
I'm kinda interested ...
Can u please post a copy of that Toshiba Bluetooth stack u're using so we can all have a chance to have a look at it and maybe modify it to work on our phones
And just more thing ... How did u manage to get that bluetooth stack to run on xda devices since it keeps checking for external SD bluetooth cards and was not designed for internal bluetooth chips ?
Look in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=15382&highlight=
Thanks for the link ....... BUT !!
I was able to download the Toshiba BT Stack v5.01 but it won't seem to work on my xda !! Everytime I tap on Bluetooth Setting (from toshiba) It says the following ' An error occurred with the Bluetooth Card. Confirm that the card is working properly.
Both my MS Stack and Widcomm Stacks are disabled and don't conflict with this new Toshiba Stack.
I was wondering how the thread owner got this BT stack running on his xda ?
It works on my XDA Mini just fine. The only problem I'm having is that it won't stay resident when you power off the device.
cseilern said:
I installed the Toshiba bluetooth stack on my I-Mate Jam and it ROCKS - it includes ALL the functionality/profiles missing in the MS stack!
...BUT...
It is unstable as hell (I have experienced all sort of "cosmetic" issues) and I am fairly sure this is due to the fact that both MS and Toshiba stacks try to use the same bluetooth hardware SIMULTANEOUSLY.
...SO...
has anyone figured how deinstall/reinstall the microsoft bluetooth stack on a Magician (I-Mate Jam, Qtek S-100, MDA Compact, XDA Mini)?
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As for disabling the MS stack, look here.
Got another Question ??
Will this new stack work on a Qtek2020 ? I've tried installing it on my Qtek2020 but it won't recognise my bluetooth hardware !!
Any sugestions ??? :?:
cseilern said:
I installed the Toshiba bluetooth stack on my I-Mate Jam and it ROCKS - it includes ALL the functionality/profiles missing in the MS stack!
...BUT...
It is unstable as hell (I have experienced all sort of "cosmetic" issues) and I am fairly sure this is due to the fact that both MS and Toshiba stacks try to use the same bluetooth hardware SIMULTANEOUSLY.
...SO...
has anyone figured how deinstall/reinstall the microsoft bluetooth stack on a Magician (I-Mate Jam, Qtek S-100, MDA Compact, XDA Mini)?
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Oops, sorry, look here for info about turning off the MS BT stack.
RE
From the download link provided it showed support for WM2003. How about WM2003SE?
Anyone feedback in using on WM2003SE?
Thanks
:roll:
i think the imate jam runs se?
:roll:
RE
Sorry, another question.
In the event of a hard reset will my O2 XDA II restore the MS stack with whatever registry settings that were deleted in the process of installating the Toshiba bt stack? Will the Toshiba bt stack be totally removed in the evnet of a hard reset?
Thanks again
yes sir
Found 2 problems.
Cannot connect when call ring.. connect then call is fine.
Cannot Accept call with button on headset.
Any more Problems ???
Please post your problems ..
Hi
i´ve tested the toshiba bt software on my MDA-Compact but haven´t got very good results. First, after installation, it seems to work good with my Royaltek RBT 3000 (GPS), but after i´ve switched off the device while an active bt connection was established with my gps software, the bt-stack broks down and the whole systems seems to be unstable. Even after a softreset the bt-software from toshiba says that they didnt recognize any bt hardware.
Now i am trying to deinstall the bt-soft and can recommend everybody who wants to test to make an backup before ;-)
I think that the software from toshiba could work, when the ms-bt-stack would be completly changed with the toshiba-stack, but doesnt work without problems when both bt-stacks are on the system.
Regards
FluBeX

Question on the BT Stacks

hi, I'm trying to develop an app wich uses SPP, i'm on an Acer n50 handheld running WinCE 4.21 with the Widcomm-Broadcomm stack 1.5.0 build 3601, what i want to do is unload the Widcomm stack and use the MS stack, my guess is that since the Widcomm stack is just a device driver it can be unloaded, at least for the time my app runs and then reload the widcomm stack, so my question is : is this even possible to be done?, if so what kind of tools would i need to accomplish this daunting task
thanks!
CamonZ
not sure but i suspect that the ms bluetooth stack is absent in roms made with the other bluetooth stacks
havent heard about anybody going from 1 stack back to ms bs
ROMs with BT stack don't contain most of core DLLs from MS BT stack. You can use PlatformBuilder and compile the missing DLLs yourself, edit the registry, etc. But this does not worth the effort. Widcomm stack is better and more stable than MS.
And you cannot dynamically unload one BT-driver and then reload the other one without the softreset.
:?: :?: :?: Why would anybody want the MS stack in favor of the Widcomm :?: :?:
MS stack has one advantage over Widcomm - its programming is done through windows sockets and you don't need to pay 1000$ for SDK.

Magician (Qtek S110) Bluetooth Upgrade

Hi I've been looking through the forum for the last couple of days and I'm really impressed by the great tips and downloads etc.
Anyway I have a question regarding the Bluetooth configuration /connectivity options available on the S110. In comparison to my other devices the Bluetooth on the S110 sucks.
So I'd like to install the Widcomm version, I've tried the bluetooth_GPS.cab but it fails to initialise the bluetooth stack, so the question is has anyone been able to install and overwrite the current Bluetooth on the Magician?
Any help will be greatly appreciated!
sorry to inform u that the Widcomm Bt stack does not work on the Magician
there is another Bt stack made By toshiba ( for it's own PPC ) and it works on the Magician and adds alot of new profiles missing from the M$ stack , but it's not stable.
I guess I M$ Stack sucks, but you'll get used to it...
cheers

Which bluetooth stack is the Prophet using?

Hi,
I bought a Dopod 818 Pro and happily loaded the drivers for my Think Outside BT Keyboard. Unfortunately the BT Keyboard on the Prophet tells me :
Bluetooth system not detected.
Current version of the keyboard/mouse driver supports the following Bluetooth stacks
Widcomm BTW CE 1.4.x - 1.5.x
Drakar (Socket) 6.x.x
Microsoft
Does anyone have an idea on how I can get this to work? Think Outside is very slow to update their software / drivers. One option seems to me to load either the Widcomm or the Drakar stack. Any one tried something like this?
Thanks & Best Regards
Of course Prophet running WM5 and has Microsoft Bluetooth stacks. I think the version is 2.0. Is newer then before. No way to use other Blue tooth stacks on Pocket PC.
the BT stack onthe prophet is total garbage, only supports 2 services.. the older widcom stack for the 2K3 pdas have like 14 services
pr5owner said:
the BT stack onthe prophet is total garbage, only supports 2 services.. the older widcom stack for the 2K3 pdas have like 14 services
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Same Microsoft s#%t as on Windows XP. My Sony Vaio comes with MS stack, and ....it supports only 2 services. So I have built-in BT, but can use it only for a BT mouse or modem.

WidCom Stack on Uni/Wiza/Prophet

Since mamaich has extracted the stack from acer....can it be ported to the current WM5 devices...
Theoretically it is possible - Himalaya devices proove this. But you would be unable to use BT headset. Other profiles including a2dp should work.
Thanks for replying

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