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To one and all,
Two purposes for this thread:
Generally - I'm hoping it will be a good place for all the people (like me) that have tried to get a solution for this issue in so many forums (over so many years)and have simply been told "you need the wired headset for an antenna", to register their interest in a solution - hopefully a bit of chat and interest will finally yeild a solution. A simple +1 should suffice.
Specifically - I listen to FM Radio via my wired headset on my windows mobile device for about 3 hours a day what I would like to do:
I would like to use my wired headset (or some alternate antenna solution - for me to choose, ultimately providing a suitably strong FM signal to my device).
I will then conceal this antenna (depending what it is will depend how I do it (no rude remarks required ;o) )) and then put the mobile phone and the antenna in my pocket.
I then want to listen to FM radio via free to air (not streamed via the internet - data in AUS is expensive, I don't want a sub thread about who I'm with and alternate data plans) A2DP compliant bluetooth stereo headphones.
I am not asking for RDS, although I may look for a radio app with this later.
I am not asking for TMC.
I know this will drain my battery - I can manage this.
I know I could continue to use my wired heaset, however, I and many others based on my XDA and general iternet searching would like a nice simple solution to the above if any developer(s) are able to assist, I and I believe many others with similar non-existant coding skills, would appreciate it very much.
I am not intending to be rude, I have tried to be very specific about my requirements, I am trying to demonstrate that I have done some research and have hopefully highlighted that I do not need any "you need the wired headset for FM Radio therefore it can't be done" type answers.
I am very interested in this community and it's ability to rise to the "I can do that" approach which is why I am posting here.
Any feedback, greatly appreciated - especially if you can point me in the direction of a solution!
Kind regards
apj_apj
How to hide the antenna, I do not know, just using a small adapter with USM for Jack, he was short and easy to hide from the waist bag in his pocket jeans.
Even better quality of reception.
And to transfer the sound to Bluetooth use the excellent program BTFM Radio v1.51
Thanks very much mrTag. I've downloaded the application, can't read or translate the readme.txt or the whatsnew.txt so will just have to have a go I suppose! Does anyone know where there is an English equivalent?
My new windows mobile arrives in about 2 - 3 days, my current one died, so I will let you know how I go when I get it and try it out.
Thanks again for the quick response and the possible solution to my problems!
Here is a rough translation
Retransmission FM radio to bluetooth A2DP headset
Version 1.51 Freeware
Copyright (c) 2009 DM Kuznetsov
The program is designed for listening to FM radio on wireless
stereo headset (A2DP).
Additional features:
o Wireless "proslushka" - broadcast audio stream from the microphone / wired headset kpc.
o Record audio (including radio) "on the fly to mp3.
Supported bit rates: 32-320Kbps, stereo.
Directory of audio-recording is set up, you can use a memory card.
(bitrate affects the download)
(!) To carry out the recording must have EmzMp3EncDll.dll in the directory Windows.
(EmzMp3EncDll.dll initially present on the Samsung i740)
o Automatic launch and management of FM Radio.
(Adjusting for the application supported)
o Close the program and launch a selected application from the command sets.
(S2P default)
o Management of all functions of the program directly from the headset.
It supports AVRCP.
Fully to orig. FM Radio Samsung i740, partly for other devices.
button on the headset:
Play_Pause - start / stop transmission
Stop - search / switching stations to a standard Radio i740
(length, pressing Play_Pause).
Forward / FF - leafing forward (Right click you send to the radio box)
Backward / REW - searching backwards (pressing a button sends the Left in the radio box)
FF dL. Pressing - start / stop recording
REW dL. Pressing - to close the radio, run a given application
(such as S2P)
Long-click option is confirmed by a beep, then you can release the button.
(default is playing default.wav)
Broadcast radio is available at:
Samsung i740
RoverPC N6
RoverPC V7
RoverPC X7
HTC Touch HD
Samsung i900 (only when using the headset with a microphone switched)
Possibly incompatible with other devices.
If your KVM is not on the list, but successful radio broadcast, please send me
the name of your KVM to supplement the list of compatible.
(!) When the button will not work, use the S2U2!
Use:
1. Connect the wired headset as an antenna
2. Try and include radio
3. System volume to maximum, the radio volume to maximum.
3. Connect A2DP headset, and open the Audio Gateway
4. Run BTFM_Radio
5. Click "Start"
6. Adjust the volume levels in the acc. with personal preferences.
Thanks heaps mrTag, you're a champion! My device is still stuck with DHL so will try it out as soon as I have it in my hands.
Regards
apj_apj
This sounds like the answer to my problems too. The only problem I have is the link doesn't seem to work ("resource not found" message). Any ideas?
Indeed, the site is unavailable.
You can put files here.
Cool
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Indeed, the site is unavailable.
You can put files here.
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I've been trying to listen my HTC Topaz radio via my Bluetooth CrashHelmet.
This works - allbeit just one speaker (mono).
Great Thx!
Almost there!
@mrTAG,
I've given BTFM Radio v1.51 a try on my Acer M900 handheld. Its native FM tuner application allows toggling the sound between the wired headsets (which act as antenna) and the device's loudspeaker.
I can't read anything in russian, but I've noticed that BTFM Radio broadcasts sound to my A2DP headsets only when FM sound has been toggled to the loudspeaker, and I tap on the upper left button on the application's screen. Nevertheless, the loudspeaker sound is not cut off at all, for what I have FM sound coming from both my A2DP headsets and the device's loudspeaker. There's not much point in such a behaviour, don't you think? I wonder if I missing some settings, due to my complete ignorance in reading russian. Any hints?
Furthermore, could you give me some guidance in reading the application buttons and settings in general, because I don't have a russian keyboard to try to enter what they are showing, on an online translation tool.
Thanks, anyway.
Cheers!
Carlos
I am unfortunately not a developer program.
Try to disassemble the program and translated into English.
But I'm afraid you do not help, most likely your device is not supported
I was looking for a program like this. One question: does this app integrate well with calls? I mean, if you're listening to radio and a call is received, radio is stopped and you can handle the call? I have a a2dp headset for my helmet and it would be great to be able to listen the radio and answer the calls while riding...
Thanks!
i am going to try this program with my Samsung omnia i900.
And btw, i found out a way to translate the notepad and readme to
english. please find attached files for he english translated readme and whatsnew.txt from the files.
mrTAG said:
I am unfortunately not a developer program.
Try to disassemble the program and translated into English.
But I'm afraid you do not help, most likely your device is not supported
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my Gigabyte GSmart S1200 is not supported too.
I run BTFM_Radio.exe, then press the left top button out of the four buttons, resulting in an error prompts in Russian, which I don't understand the meaning..........
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my Gigabyte GSmart S1200 is not supported too.
I run BTFM_Radio.exe, then press the left top button out of the four buttons, resulting in an error prompts in Russian, which I don't understand the meaning..........
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I wonder if your A2DP connection was already active, before you tapped on the first button. I don't read russian either, but I remember seeing a popup window once, when I had forgotten to activate A2DP beforehand.
Well, just for the records, after e-mailing Dmitriy, the developer himself, I've been told that the 1st button is "Start", the 2nd one is "Stop", the 3rd one is "Record" (provided that you have EmzMp3EncDll.dll on your \Windows directory) and the 4th one is "Exit".
Just my 2 cents...
Cheers!
Carlos
pjerom said:
i am going to try this program with my Samsung omnia i900.
And btw, i found out a way to translate the notepad and readme to
english. please find attached files for he english translated readme and whatsnew.txt from the files.
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I tried it also on a Samsung Omnia i900 but it doesn't affect the radio output, unfotunately! Sill unable to listen to the radio FM on the bluetooth headset.
cool, works for me but i have the radio playing out of both my phone speeker and my bluetooth headset...
any solution? if i turn down the volume it also turns it down on headset...
waiting on my stereo BT HS, meanwhile tried with mono and dosnt work, after playing with it (i dont read russian) when i change advanced bt audio setting to just audio headset goes into feed back like mic is wid open but no radio, i am hoping it will work when i get stereo HS.
FYI i have anadapter for 3.5 & charging and that allows me to listen to radio without the HS that comes with the phone i note these have 6 pins inside ware mii usb for connecting to pc has 5.
thanks for this program either way i've been searching and its closest i've come yet.
Here is the reposted link for the app hope its of use for all
After trying al lot off "software-solutions". I've got the best result with a little conector on my HTC Touch Diamond2 T5353 (HTC Topaz 100).
It's a little thing wich you can plug in via mini-usb, and out there is a headphoneconnector (mini-usb), mini-usb and an audio-jack.
In the audio-jack I plug in my bluetooth adaptor (dongle) of my blackbeat906 headset.
So I save my phonebattery and the adaptor works as an fm-antenna.
Hi ,
Much appreciate your having posted this file in the forum as its unavailable at the earlier mentioned url, however I'm unable to download it it gets downloaded as a .php file and not the .zip file its meant to be.
Also would this work on sony ericsson Elm ( I need a Java version please....)which has its inbuilt RDS radio.
many thanks
Best Regds
Tom
PS: are you able to re-post and or redirect me to the right place for the above please?
came to me an idea to connect the music player in the phone to the FM radio in the car to play it ! I'm very positive for it .. since getting TMC from the radio to the gps software (in this thread) , so there is a possbile connection between them ? the question, could someone came with a software or hacking can do this ? with no need to buy external FM CAR KIT device to make it works !
I hope yes ...
Thanks ....
im also looking for such an app..
i had also put down the same question here
Hi, i think you don't really understand whats meant by RDS/TMC through radio. It doesn't get information from your car-radio, it's a build-in radio device within your phone. And this is even a receiver, not a sender. As far as i conern there are onky three ways to connect your phone to your car-radio and all of them are the way 'music from phone to radio'
1.) bluetooth, but only a few radios have got it
2.) via fm-transmitter which is a way whichmostly shold work
3.) vie line in at car radio and line-out/speaker-out/headphone at phone
regards
Bernhard
Bernhard12345 said:
Hi, i think you don't really understand whats meant by RDS/TMC through radio. It doesn't get information from your car-radio, it's a build-in radio device within your phone. And this is even a receiver, not a sender. As far as i conern there are onky three ways to connect your phone to your car-radio and all of them are the way 'music from phone to radio'
1.) bluetooth, but only a few radios have got it
2.) via fm-transmitter which is a way whichmostly shold work
3.) vie line in at car radio and line-out/speaker-out/headphone at phone
regards
Bernhard
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right AFAIK there is no HTC device that can send FM out, just receive. :/
Thanks guys for disappointed me ... idon't really why i'm still positive for making this app maybe it could happend later ..thanks
Bernhard12345 said:
Hi, i think you don't really understand whats meant by RDS/TMC through radio. It doesn't get information from your car-radio, it's a build-in radio device within your phone. And this is even a receiver, not a sender. As far as i conern there are onky three ways to connect your phone to your car-radio and all of them are the way 'music from phone to radio'
1.) bluetooth, but only a few radios have got it
2.) via fm-transmitter which is a way whichmostly shold work
3.) vie line in at car radio and line-out/speaker-out/headphone at phone
regards
Bernhard
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2.) HOW CAN U CONNECT "via fm- transmitter "? ?
Hi imrock,
ask google for it or even ebay. ;-)
1. buy fm-transmitter
2. plug in fm-transmitter to device instead of headphones
3. search for the frequency on which your transmitter transmits at your car radio
4. enjoy
I don't have experiences on my own, but a few weeks ago i've seen a test in a magazin. They summorized as follows: The quality of music is not really good.
Bernhard12345 said:
Hi imrock,
ask google for it or even ebay. ;-)
1. buy fm-transmitter
2. plug in fm-transmitter to device instead of headphones
3. search for the frequency on which your transmitter transmits at your car radio
4. enjoy
I don't have experiences on my own, but a few weeks ago i've seen a test in a magazin. They summorized as follows: The quality of music is not really good.
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hey Bernhard
thanks for the info..i was looking for this only but it isn't of any use if you have to use an attachment, not to mention the quality..!!
But will definitely check tht out
is there a way to create an app to turn the fm radio into a broadcaster.
just currious would be cool if there was a way to run it and use it to connect to car radio and use built in radio instead of getting an fm docking station.
Im sure its reciever only but never hurts to ask just in case there is someone out there with the knowledge to make it work if it was possible. kinda like a wireless card being turned into an ap.(i know they are not the same i was just using for an example of what i was talking about).
Although personally I do not think it is possible, since there is no hardware in there to do it, this would be a good idea for the phone manufacturer.
i run pandora,radiotime and the fm radio through my trucks sound system....for the fm radio to work the headphones are needed as an antenna but i found that if you plug a 6 inch or longer male to male 3.5mm audio cable from the phone to the line in of your cars sound system it works perfect(provided you have a line in)...basically all you need is any kind of audio line that can plug in to act as an antenna and not just the headphones....like i said the line i use is no longer than 6 inches and acts as a perfect antenna as well as the line to get sound through my trucks system...and streaming pandora or radiotime is perfect since my satellite system was recently stolen from my truck along with my gps system...#$%%#^$$^ thieves...so now the aria has definitely become my all in one and what is cool and off subject a little is i was able run the gps and stream pandora in the background with no problems...i am really liking this little beast of a phone...now if i can just figure out how to brew coffee with it..............
So I bought this bluetooth headset a pure beauty it self.
(Blackbeat903)
I have found out that my bluetooth signal is not strong at all.
The signal is supposed to reach 3 meters across. but as soon as I put it in my pocket, it begins to loose connection and I miss parts of calls/music.
I tryed to find out waht the problem is, first I thought it was because of programs in the background, that was not it, I even turn the mobile upwards in my pocket cause the transmitter is located in the upper part of the mobile.
But I geuss its just because the bluetooth is not strong enough to transmit trough human tissue? Now I can imagen that more poeple had this problem so is there a program of is there a way to boost my Bluetooth's signal range?
Greets.
It's just the way bluetooth is, you cannot simply change power class of bluetooth unit in HD2.
Well I didn't know about that.
But you can amplify allot of signals or sounds. So I thought it does not hurt to ask around.
Posting here as I think I used the wrong secrtion previously
I recently installed a Xtrons PQS90MTVL head unit in a skoda superb. I have a couple of questions on how to get it to work correctly when navigating.
1) It seems that you can set the navigation sounds to be a percentage of the radio volume but cannot set it to play at a given volume regardless. The problem is that the radio seems to be constantly on and there is no way to turn it off. The 'on/off' button simply mutes the radio - and the navigation sounds.
Often I am in an area where I cannot pick up a decent radio signal on the programme I want and just get static. In these situations I want to turn the radio off but still hear navigation sounds. I don't want to listen to loud static just so I can have the nav sounds play at a percentage of that static. Is there a way to turn the radio off but still get navigation sounds? (a workaround I have found is to play a media file instead of the radio and then pause playback. The nav sounds are then still a percentage of the - non existent - playback volume. However this should not be necessary)
2) It also seems that a Internet connection is needed for any navigation. even google maps won't do a search without it as it says I am offline. (is this true?)
I have bought the 4G wifi dongle but have a question about its use. Does the HU connect to the dongle, as far as data is concerned, via the USB socket that comes out of the back of the unit or is that socket simply powering the dongle and the HUI is actually connecting to it over wifi using the dongle as a hotspot? If so then I don't have to use the wired usb socket from the unit (which I suspect is underpowered) and can plug the dongle into an ordinary 2A USB socket that I have in the car, positioning the dongle near the roof for a better signal
Incidentally I did try using Android Auto with my phone using wired connection. That seems sort of OK but is not very reliable. Often when starting the car it hangs at the 'connected' screen, or even at the 'trying to connect' screen, although other times it seems OK
3) There is a small socket on the left hand side of the HU that looks like a slot for a small memory card or a sim card. It is labelled 'GPS'. What is that socket used for? it is not mentioned in the manual as far as I can see. - The manual is generally a bit hand waving though, excitedly telling you what you can do but not how to do it.
(I did try the xtrons forum but not only are the last posts there around January 2022 but there seems to be no way to register for it. Hence posting here)
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Will I get answers here then?
coldshiver said:
Posting here as I think I used the wrong secrtion previously
I recently installed a Xtrons PQS90MTVL head unit in a skoda superb. I have a couple of questions on how to get it to work correctly when navigating.
1) It seems that you can set the navigation sounds to be a percentage of the radio volume but cannot set it to play at a given volume regardless. The problem is that the radio seems to be constantly on and there is no way to turn it off. The 'on/off' button simply mutes the radio - and the navigation sounds.
Often I am in an area where I cannot pick up a decent radio signal on the programme I want and just get static. In these situations I want to turn the radio off but still hear navigation sounds. I don't want to listen to loud static just so I can have the nav sounds play at a percentage of that static. Is there a way to turn the radio off but still get navigation sounds? (a workaround I have found is to play a media file instead of the radio and then pause playback. The nav sounds are then still a percentage of the - non existent - playback volume. However this should not be necessary)
2) It also seems that a Internet connection is needed for any navigation. even google maps won't do a search without it as it says I am offline. (is this true?)
I have bought the 4G wifi dongle but have a question about its use. Does the HU connect to the dongle, as far as data is concerned, via the USB socket that comes out of the back of the unit or is that socket simply powering the dongle and the HUI is actually connecting to it over wifi using the dongle as a hotspot? If so then I don't have to use the wired usb socket from the unit (which I suspect is underpowered) and can plug the dongle into an ordinary 2A USB socket that I have in the car, positioning the dongle near the roof for a better signal
Incidentally I did try using Android Auto with my phone using wired connection. That seems sort of OK but is not very reliable. Often when starting the car it hangs at the 'connected' screen, or even at the 'trying to connect' screen, although other times it seems OK
3) There is a small socket on the left hand side of the HU that looks like a slot for a small memory card or a sim card. It is labelled 'GPS'. What is that socket used for? it is not mentioned in the manual as far as I can see. - The manual is generally a bit hand waving though, excitedly telling you what you can do but not how to do it.
(I did try the xtrons forum but not only are the last posts there around January 2022 but there seems to be no way to register for it. Hence posting here)
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First of all you need to fix your FM reception. You need to use a phantom power adapter to get some voltage to the OEM antenna.
There are some navigation apps which don´t need a internet connection. TomTom as example and others using offline maps. But you won´t get traffic messages if you don´t have an internet connection.
That would fix your white noise.
The FM radio can be closed if you use the back button on top right. If that does not help, chose the recent apps button on top and swipe the radio app away as for each other app... You really should learn how to use Android.
The navigation loudness can be set in the system settings. Depends on the unit where you can find it. In this case the navigation software needs to be registered as navigation in settings /Apps/Standard apps.
Regarding your 4G-WiFi dongle... The name itself shows the functionality.
It connects via 4G to the internet and provides the connection via WiFi to anyone in the car.... even too to the radio.
The GPS slot on your radio is nothing else as a micro-SD slot, which also can be used to store music on it or whatever else you want.
BTW: Seems that you are not that familiar with car electronics. May be a good idea to ask someone who can help you with some knowledge what has to be done.
Might be an easy task to just swap a radio, but there are more things behind than just swapping.
May I recommend 'Magic Earth' navigation, works fine with no internet but no live data of course.
At least there are a lot more offline navigation apps...
Out of memory:
Google Maps (partially with downloaded segmented maps)
HERE WeGo
Navmii GPS World
OsmAnd
MAPS.ME
Magic Earth
TomTom
iGo
But without internet... no traffic data..
rigattoni said:
First of all you need to fix your FM reception. You need to use a phantom power adapter to get some voltage to the OEM antenna.
There are some navigation apps which don´t need a internet connection. TomTom as example and others using offline maps. But you won´t get traffic messages if you don´t have an internet connection.
That would fix your white noise.
The FM radio can be closed if you use the back button on top right. If that does not help, chose the recent apps button on top and swipe the radio app away as for each other app... You really should learn how to use Android.
The navigation loudness can be set in the system settings. Depends on the unit where you can find it. In this case the navigation software needs to be registered as navigation in settings /Apps/Standard apps.
Regarding your 4G-WiFi dongle... The name itself shows the functionality.
It connects via 4G to the internet and provides the connection via WiFi to anyone in the car.... even too to the radio.
The GPS slot on your radio is nothing else as a micro-SD slot, which also can be used to store music on it or whatever else you want.
BTW: Seems that you are not that familiar with car electronics. May be a good idea to ask someone who can help you with some knowledge what has to be done.
Might be an easy task to just swap a radio, but there are more things behind than just swapping.
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Thanks for a helpful reply. I have already fitted a power injector for the FM antenna which made some difference but I like to listen to radio 4 and there are parts of the country (along the M11, on the A5 in North Wales), where you cannot pick it up on any radio - and of course in Europe where I have just been for a few weeks where I usually don't want the radio on at all. That's why having the nav sound set as a percentage of the existing volume seems a bit odd as it implies you already have some other sound on. Better to have a dedicated channel for it or have the nav mute any other sound.
I'll look at doing all the swiping etc to turn off the radio by closing recent apps although this doesn't seen like a very safe thing to start doing when you drive into a area of poor reception. I was hoping the unit would have a simple press button like in the good old days!
The dongle info is also useful thank you. Xtrons do not make this clear at all. They imply that by plugging it into the socket on the unit you have made a (wired) data connection. If the HU is still only connecting over wifi anyway then I can install the dongle wherever I like in the car so that it gets a good 4G signal, instead of it having to be in the driver footwell at the end of the short USB cable xtrons supply and I can use a dedicated 2A usb adaptor to supply decent power .
I guessed the 'GPS' socket might have nothing to do with GPS. Shame Xtrons couldn't say what it was for instead of just mis-labelling it.
Incidentally. The SIM in the dongle would only ever be used for the navigation to receive traffic updates or bits of map or whatever it needs i.e I don't intend to be surfing the net or downloading Utube videos. Do you have any idea what sort of data requirements this would mean. Would a 250Mb a month sim be enough?
I'll experiment with your suggestions.
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At least there are a lot more offline navigation apps...
Out of memory:
Google Maps (partially with downloaded segmented maps)
HERE WeGo
Navmii GPS World
OsmAnd
MAPS.ME
Magic Earth
TomTom
iGo
But without internet... no traffic data..
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I'll look into those thank you. I use maps.me on my phone but couldn't get google maps to work on the HU as it said I was offline. Of course I still need an internet connection to download any of those apps and install them on the HU but I could just park near my house and using the house wifi.
Data plan for using navigation online data depends on the app you use and the amount of mileage per month.
You can use your smartphone first to see what you need in a "normal usage" month and then decide what you need.
If you use any offline map solution, it´s also some sort of usage dependency.
BTW... If you would invest into a higher data plan (2GB), you could use the app Radionator to use Online radio. BBC Radio4 should be in there too. Radionator is the best alternative if you want to listen to one specific radio station. Just needs a stable internet connection, nothing else... and the sound is mostly better than FM.
May be you can use the Navradio+ as alternativ solution for receiving FM radio. Depends on the MCU of your unit. Search for it in MTCD software forum.
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At least there are a lot more offline navigation apps...
Out of memory:
HERE WeGo
But without internet... no traffic data..
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I would recommend to use HERE WeGo, it served me very well for the years I didn't have mobile internet connection. Also it shows the max allowed speed in most countries, whereas Google Maps doesn't do that.
Sure, Here WeGo is a good choice, even without internet connection.