My DOPOD D810 seems to monitor the battery power in increments of 10% at a time. Another words, it shows 100%, next it shows 90% etc etc. Is there a regisrty hack so that I can see it countdown 1 percent at a time instead of 10% at a time?
Thanks,
Danny
ROM: 1.23.707.6
universed said:
My DOPOD D810 seems to monitor the battery power in increments of 10% at a time. Another words, it shows 100%, next it shows 90% etc etc. Is there a regisrty hack so that I can see it countdown 1 percent at a time instead of 10% at a time?
Thanks,
Danny
ROM: 1.23.707.6
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No, that is the way the Trinity's battery meter works. I've never heard of anyone being able to change it.
I bought a new HTC P3600 2 weeks ago.
It went with WM5 but I flashed it to WM6 (US AX3L 2.0.8.1 ROM).
I installed all my applications, and tested everything (phone, camera, GPS, WiFi...etc).
=> Wonderful ! Everything works as it should (a little miracle !)...
But: the only thing I noticed (I don't know if it's a bug) concerns the battery meter.
I'm using SPB Pocket plus to display the meter on the Today screen, but the "internal" WM6 system battery meter displays the same value, so, the problem doesn't come from SPB PP.
When I unpacked the device (coming from the factory), the battery was showing 40% of charge. After 2-3 hours, it climbed to 100%. Fine.
But since, it's ALWAYS showing 100% !!!
2 possibilities:
- the battery management is excellent and it doesn't loose much power. Strange, because phone, GPS or WiFi are usually power-consuming applications, and my old HP iPaq hx2410 was easily loosing 10% by quarter hour of heavy use...
- the battery meter is inaccurate.
Just one time, I noticed (after having worked on battery during the day, and after a soft-reset), the meter was showing 90%. I connected the USB cable, and after some minutes (too short in my opinion to charge the missing 10%), the meter was at 100% again.
So, it's like if the meter was only moving by 10% steps.
Therefore, when it's striclty over 90%, it show 100%, whatever it's really at 91% or at 99%. When it shows 90%, that should then mean the power is between 81% and 90%.
Strange behaviour. It's the very first PDA I know acting like this !
Is it just an impression or is it the reality ?
Can't I improve the meter precision ?
Thanks in advance.
The battery meter does move in 10% increments on this device,
Cheers,
Danny
Hello all,
I'm using the original European rom (the first updated ROM that came out; didn't have time to install the second updated ROM )
The only program I'm running is S2U2 (slide to unlock2), the newest version.
The problem I'm experiencing is the next: The battery status from S2U2 gives a percentage of 26%, but the battery indicator from Windows Mobile (upper right corner) gives an indication of 2 Blocks (so battery more than half-full).
When I go to the settings tab, press more and have a look at the battery indicator of Windows Mobile in detailed version, I see I have only 3 green blocks left. This shows the INDICATION of S2U2 of 26% battery remaining was correct!
But the TRUE CAPACITY isnt, because:
The weirdest thing is, my battery stayed at the level of 26% remaining ALL DAY, while normally my battery goes down with about 20% a day..
The problem is situated in WM itsself I guess :s
It also isn't something that happened once, it has occurred more often...
I also shut down the phone every evening and boot it up every morning, but I never experienced any trouble with that. Even letting the battery go flat to about 3% and then a full recharge (as wel leaving the phone turned on as letting it shut down by itsself) didn't help...
Any Idea's / experience with it?
Thanks in advance,
Borai
The answer is in the information you've provided; The WM "4-bar" display shows 25% per bar. If S2U2 is showing 26%, that's over 25%, and therefore showing two bars
A small explaination:
- 4 bars = 100% - 76%
- 3 bars = 75% - 51%
- 2 bars = 50% - 26%
- 1 bar = 25% - 0%
As for the battery draining faster / slower than usual, it all depends on usage. In low signal areas the battery will drain faster as it spends more ticks trying to get a connection. Turning the screen on and off consumes battery power, using WiFi, leaving applications running in the background... Any number of causes.
Not really
At the moment I'm at 21% according to S2U2 (yes, a full day and I only used 5% battery power, not really possible I think...)
The battery indicator in the right corner still shows 2 bars... And the indicator from 'all settings' still shows 3 blocks left...
There is defenitely something strange going on, because I never really experienced this problems when the phone was brand new...
Hi,
My girlfriend has recently bought a Galaxy S. It has not been rooted or flashed. She's having a problem where the display is using 70% of the battery, even with the brightless set low, as shown under Settings -> About Phone -> Battery
Unplugged for 7h 15m 28s
Display - 70%
Cell standby - 10%
Phone idle - 5%
Android System - 5%
Android Core Apps - 3%
Android OS - 3%
Internet - 2%
Has anyone heard of this before?
What can we do to fix it?
Thanks
Scott
scott9824 said:
Hi,
My girlfriend has recently bought a Galaxy S. It has not been rooted or flashed. She's having a problem where the display is using 70% of the battery, even with the brightless set low, as shown under Settings -> About Phone -> Battery
Unplugged for 7h 15m 28s
Display - 70%
Cell standby - 10%
Phone idle - 5%
Android System - 5%
Android Core Apps - 3%
Android OS - 3%
Internet - 2%
Has anyone heard of this before?
What can we do to fix it?
Thanks
Scott
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Likewise, the display is draining the most battery comparatively to other things. (I'm using the lowest settings)
Im not speaking from research (how other superphones behave), but wild guess - it is normal for all touch screens, especially bigger ones.
Touch or not - it doesn't matter.
Screen technology and size matters.
See 4" has around 4 times the area of 2" display.
How long was the display active for ? This is normal if you have it turned on a lot at high brightness settings.
i'm not surprised even if the 70% is true, because my HTC Athena is a power hog when i keep the screen on for a long time, the juice que sucked up in a couple of hours of use.
the SGS i9000 is having a better run for the power.
at least i can play 3D games (ASPHAL5) in it without worrying about running out of battery like with my old HTC Athena
scott9824 said:
Hi,
My girlfriend has recently bought a Galaxy S. It has not been rooted or flashed. She's having a problem where the display is using 70% of the battery, even with the brightless set low, as shown under Settings -> About Phone -> Battery
Unplugged for 7h 15m 28s
Display - 70%
Cell standby - 10%
Phone idle - 5%
Android System - 5%
Android Core Apps - 3%
Android OS - 3%
Internet - 2%
Has anyone heard of this before?
What can we do to fix it?
Thanks
Scott
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See, you are kind of reading this information wrong, IMO. Yes, the display usese 60+% of power, regardless of brightness settings, if you have the display on. Here's the simple math:
Standby time (no sync, no 3G, basically, literally just standing by, screen off doing nothing: 24-25 days
screen on time: 4-7 hours.
You can see that the screen sucks SOOOO much more power than just about everything else your gf had going on in her usage, there wasn't a high usage scenario other than the screen. However, if you use something like GPS the stats will "look better" but you'll have less battery because it'll go from screen to 40% and GPS to 30% but your battery would be nearly dead.
Also, if she just went to sleep then Cell standby and Cell idle jump by 1-5% each and then you have "better looking" statistics.
This essentially means, if you use the phone with the display a large percentage of the time that the phone is unplugged, expect these percentages. I unplug my phone at night, when I wake up my display percentage is 0% (not necessarily better than 70%, because it's usage dependent), then I go to work, so I might run unplugged for 20 hours, use 8% of my battery with my display reading at 20% of the power used. Then, I'll go home and play with it and it's upto 40%, the moral is that it's good to know how much your battery is used on various tasks, but anywhere from 20-70% is normal depending on how much you actually have the display on while it's unplugged.
70% sounded right. There was a youtube VDO that dissemble galaxy s awhile back that really give a good perspective.
The CPU, GPU, GPS, memories etc etc almost fit on your thumb. They are so miniturised and so small. The rest are chassis, batteries and screens taking up almost all the space.
So it is no surprise that the screen should be what guzzling down all the batteries.
didnt know it uses that much...
She's having a problem where the display is using 70% of the battery. [...] What can we do to fix it?
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The easiest way to fix this is by installing & running multiple applications that consume a lot of battery power. This should lower the percentage of battery power that the display consumes significantly.
(Only posting this because you already got more helpful answers in this thread)
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See, you are kind of reading this information wrong, IMO. Yes, the display usese 60+% of power, regardless of brightness settings, if you have the display on. Here's the simple math:
Standby time (no sync, no 3G, basically, literally just standing by, screen off doing nothing: 24-25 days
screen on time: 4-7 hours.
You can see that the screen sucks SOOOO much more power than just about everything else your gf had going on in her usage, there wasn't a high usage scenario other than the screen. However, if you use something like GPS the stats will "look better" but you'll have less battery because it'll go from screen to 40% and GPS to 30% but your battery would be nearly dead.
Also, if she just went to sleep then Cell standby and Cell idle jump by 1-5% each and then you have "better looking" statistics.
This essentially means, if you use the phone with the display a large percentage of the time that the phone is unplugged, expect these percentages. I unplug my phone at night, when I wake up my display percentage is 0% (not necessarily better than 70%, because it's usage dependent), then I go to work, so I might run unplugged for 20 hours, use 8% of my battery with my display reading at 20% of the power used. Then, I'll go home and play with it and it's upto 40%, the moral is that it's good to know how much your battery is used on various tasks, but anywhere from 20-70% is normal depending on how much you actually have the display on while it's unplugged.
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Thanks, but that's the thing, I have a Desire and if used similarly (with brightness set highest) mine shows:
Android System 31%
Cell standby 21%
Wi-Fi 21%
Phone idle 16%
Display 11%
I thought the Galaxy S's screen is supposed to be more power efficient than the Desires so that's why it doesn't make sense to me. Again today her battery use shows:
Display 61%
Cell standby 17%
Phone idle 10%
Android OS 6%
Android System 3%
Internet 2%
So I think either my phone (Desire) is reporting the battery use wrong, her phone (Galaxy S) is reporting it wrong or the display is using more than it should? Now I had a similar battery % when I flashed a few 2.2 roms onto my phone, but people were saying that was because the drivers weren't correct. (I haven't flashed 2.2 recently)
Cheers
Scott
scott9824 said:
Hi,
My girlfriend has recently bought a Galaxy S. It has not been rooted or flashed. She's having a problem where the display is using 70% of the battery, even with the brightless set low, as shown under Settings -> About Phone -> Battery
Unplugged for 7h 15m 28s
Display - 70%
Cell standby - 10%
Phone idle - 5%
Android System - 5%
Android Core Apps - 3%
Android OS - 3%
Internet - 2%
Has anyone heard of this before?
What can we do to fix it?
Thanks
Scott
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Hello,
Same happened to me, but I used live wallpaper. When I turned to the simple wallpaper the usage from 75% dropped to 50% -keeping all my other activities constant.
Chryssa
I don't think that the info displayed by android is very accurate.
I get about 55% too though.
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Just press on the display-bit, and you can see how many hours/minutes it's been on.
19 hours since unplugged:
Android OS: 36%
Cell Standby: 25%
Phone Idle: 18%
Display: 14%
Wi-fi: 3%
Android System: 2%
Those 14% is 31minutes continious use...
31 minutes of Display time is nothing over 19 hours, hence the low percentage. Mine shows approx. 50% usage when it's been used say almost 2 hours and phone awake time 14 hours.
For the OP, if you don't tell us how long the display has been switched on ... all the answer will be just guessing
As everybody says, the display is always the bigger battery consumer unless you use your phone as a mp3 player or just a phone to receive call.
If you go on the web, play games, read mails, use maps ... the display will always be the biggest ( maybe the gps can go higher ... )
On my side I have 65% of battery left after 7h unplugged
50% of display for 1h4mn
21% of android OS
13% of cell standby
8% of phone idle
It's all down to the comparatively slow advancement of battery technology.
Screens are getting bigger, higher resolution and more power-hungry. Just the same as processors and GPUs need more juice, new wireless standards are introduced and multi-tasking becomes popular.
We've come from dumbphones (eg: the old Nokias) used almost solely used for calling and sms to phones that handle half the stuff in our lives, yet they're still using almost exactly the same battery technology to power it.
Simply put, the smarter the phone, the more power hungry it will usually be. And the Galaxy S is currently the smartest phone of the market.
Samsung compensated by fitting a larger battery, but they can't perform miracles with the aging battery tech.
Take a look at the x-ray scans and teardowns of the iPad; 80% of its internal volume is battery space to allow it to last for 10 hours! Sadly phones don't have the same space luxury without the rear getting chunky.
I'm hoping increased capacity batteries are released like the Hero had, as the Galaxy S is large but thin enough that some extra volume on the back wouldn't be much of a problem.
scott9824 said:
Hi,
My girlfriend has recently bought a Galaxy S. It has not been rooted or flashed. She's having a problem where the display is using 70% of the battery, even with the brightless set low, as shown under Settings -> About Phone -> Battery
Unplugged for 7h 15m 28s
Display - 70%
Cell standby - 10%
Phone idle - 5%
Android System - 5%
Android Core Apps - 3%
Android OS - 3%
Internet - 2%
Has anyone heard of this before?
What can we do to fix it?
Thanks
Scott
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That is just fine! It's just the percentage guys.
Think about it this way.
Compared to the energy consumption of the display other things uses much less energy.
However on my Galaxy S, I played 6 hours (almost 3, 720p Movies) continuously. Isn't it just awesome on a device having 800x480 Crisp Display that only weighs 118 grams?
karunadheera said:
That is just fine! It's just the percentage guys.
Think about it this way.
Compared to the energy consumption of the display other things uses much less energy.
However on my Galaxy S, I played 6 hours (almost 3, 720p Movies) continuously. Isn't it just awesome on a device having 800x480 Crisp Display that only weighs 118 grams?
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With brightness set to auto-brightness or max or min?
@OP - this is very normal. I always get the same type of readings.
Except when I talk(voice call) for a very long time.
Mine also same display always use up more then 70% and the battery can't even stand for 8 hrs, with very minimum usage 1hrs wifi, 20 min call, 1/2 hrs 3g, 1 hrs navigation(with charging). Have got battery replacement from samsung but still the same I read a post some where for UK set, the guy get 1 to 1 replacement, battery can last for 2 days for it new set, just wonder is it the flaw set we having that cause our battery drain? My friends told me that for his set from morning till after work (9 to 8 pm almost 11 hrs) battery only drop 10%. I really hope someone can help us to prove is samsung selling flaw set so we can claim 1 to 1 exchanges.
Hi,
I started doing some battery tests today as I think my battery is draining faster than the quoted figures on this forum.
Please note the following, tests were carried out with Power saving ENABLED, 4g ENABLED, brightness on auto, wifi off, sync off, GPS off, bluetooth off, playing full screen and all the air gestures/eye tracking scroll off
Test 1 - from 100% battery charge
Play the movie Casino Royale (1080p) - roughly 145 minutes. Battery drop from 100% to 80% = -20%.
Average battery consumption of 1% for every 7.25 minutes played.
Next test was carried away straight after. Therefore perhaps the phone could still be hot causing the battery to drain faster.
Test 2 - from 79% battery charge
Play the movie Never Back Down (1080p) - roughly 113 minutes. Battery drop from 79% to 57% =-22%
Average battery consumption of 1% for every 5.13 minutes played.
The fluctuation of battery consumption was roughly 29% between the two tests. Between the two, average consumption of 6.19minutes per 1% consumption. Therefore anticipated playback time from a full charge is estimated at 10.3hr
This leads me to believe that either the battery "gauge" on the phone is either inaccurate or (more likely) my battery is somewhat faulty. Why else would the efficiency change so much? With my very limited knowledge, I can only come to the conclusion it is linked to the device's heat.
My questions:
A) Are these consumption figures in line with everyone else?
B) Why would the battery consumption fluctuate like this
C) My battery is way more efficient playing movies then it is listening to music while using whatsapp. Is this normal?
A) yes your battery is good if not better than some other's
B) on every phone i experinced the battery drops lower from 100% than it does from 75% and from 40% it really drops faster
C) because your using the internet which consumes a lot of battery
Your approach is flawed:
Don't start at 100% because it may say that but could be less as the battery is not kept charging once it's full. As a result it could be a couple of points below 100 and you wouldn't know. There was an article about this somewhere on this site.
Also, you must use the same video file to get the same result. Utilization and load depend mainly on bitrate and codec used, not the length and/or resolution in itself.
Cheers Ewok, quite new to this and didnt realise that a different video could have a different effect on the efficiency