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Hewy peeps, ive got a core player and was wonder hwo to get a seamless picture when i play an AVI movie.. something like tango an cash or somthing.. it get pixelated in fast action screens.. is Divx any better or does it to the same thing
Tango and Cash? That's so random, lol.
The biggest issue is that Coreplayer does not support the hardware video acceleration afforded by the TP2, and Core has still not addressed this issue.
There are different ways to attack the issue. The best results will probably come from re-encoding your video to a resolution, bitrate, etc. that is more friendly to the TP2. The resolution of your videos is probably simply too much for the phone to handle. But personally, I can't be bothered to re-encode every video I want to watch on my phone. I like being able to watch the same file on my desktop and mobile device.
I've gotten Coreplayer to be somewhat tolerable by tweaking the settings. It seems that lots of people like the QTv video output (under Menu>Tools>Preferences>Video). It runs at a decent frame rate, but has what appears like "tearing", where it looks like one part of the screen is not in sync with the rest. This may or may not be what you call "pixelation", I'm not sure.
To me, the GDI output mode looks better, but seems to slow down the frame rate. I've been able to mitigate that somewhat by playing around with the buffer (also under Menu>Tools>Preferences). The framerate is not great, and once in a while the picture will freeze for a second or 2. But to me, its watchable overall.
c0nv1ct77 said:
Hewy peeps, ive got a core player and was wonder hwo to get a seamless picture when i play an AVI movie.. something like tango an cash or somthing.. it get pixelated in fast action screens.. is Divx any better or does it to the same thing
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I've honestly never used coreplayer for videos like that...I've always had great results using Divx (/Xvid/.avi) files with the player provided by the DivX group themselves...it's not the prettiest player, and it only does vids, but it's done very well even playing files that I haven't bothered to "mobile-optimize". I just rip my DVD's to a .avi file ~700MB in size, and just the amount of compression used to get it to that smaller size is enough for the DivX player to be able to handle it clearly and nearly stutter-free on my TP2.
I just installed CorePlayer onto my device and video quality is extremely choppy, worse than my HTC Diamond. Do other people experience this problem, there is horrible pixelation and tearing in all videos. One reason which I chose this device over Android is b/c of Coreplayer but the video quality is horrible, I tried toggling the settings from GDI and directdraw, but nothing works, tried h.264 and xvid videos.
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Seems like turning off "Use blitting instead of overlay" solves the problem of intense pixelation and tearing, but video quality is still underwhelming when compared to stock player. But stock player does not play Xvid. When I encode directly from bluray VC-1 Source to 800x480, video quality is amazing on stock player.
Does anyone know what are the best settings for CorePlayer on the Expo, seems like there was a thread like this for the HD2 a while ago.
what version of core player are you using?
roteplex said:
I just installed CorePlayer onto my device and video quality is extremely choppy, worse than my HTC Diamond. Do other people experience this problem, there is horrible pixelation and tearing in all videos. One reason which I chose this device over Android is b/c of Coreplayer but the video quality is horrible, I tried toggling the settings from GDI and directdraw, but nothing works, tried h.264 and xvid videos.
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Seems like turning off "Use blitting instead of overlay" solves the problem of intense pixelation and tearing, but video quality is still underwhelming when compared to stock player. But stock player does not play Xvid. When I encode directly from bluray VC-1 Source to 800x480, video quality is amazing on stock player.
Does anyone know what are the best settings for CorePlayer on the Expo, seems like there was a thread like this for the HD2 a while ago.
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I convert withe nero 9 recode and use iphone settings and all the videos work great on wmp, even on the projector it still has an hd look, looks better than dvd versions.
roteplex said:
I just installed CorePlayer onto my device and video quality is extremely choppy, worse than my HTC Diamond. Do other people experience this problem, there is horrible pixelation and tearing in all videos. One reason which I chose this device over Android is b/c of Coreplayer but the video quality is horrible, I tried toggling the settings from GDI and directdraw, but nothing works, tried h.264 and xvid videos.
UPDATE:
Seems like turning off "Use blitting instead of overlay" solves the problem of intense pixelation and tearing, but video quality is still underwhelming when compared to stock player. But stock player does not play Xvid. When I encode directly from bluray VC-1 Source to 800x480, video quality is amazing on stock player.
Does anyone know what are the best settings for CorePlayer on the Expo, seems like there was a thread like this for the HD2 a while ago.
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Not sure what you are doing when converting the videos, but I have never had a single video do what you are describing. You have to look at more than just the resolution when recoding videos. You also have to look at the bit rate and codec used. I download and watch anime on my expo without having to recode the videos at all. I even played a 1.3gb video in 720p resolution with no lag or other video issues. I'm using the tcpmp-0.72 so it might be the version you're using too.
What are you using to encode your videos? If you have to recode them to work on the phone, try using PocketDivx. It works like a charm. The only reason I use that is to make the file size smaller so it's not taking up a lot of space on my storage card.
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I download and watch anime on my expo without having to recode the videos at all. I even played a 1.3gb video in 720p resolution with no lag or other video issues. I'm using the tcpmp-0.72 so it might be the version you're using too.
What are you using to encode your videos? If you have to recode them to work on the phone, try using PocketDivx. It works like a charm. The only reason I use that is to make the file size smaller so it's not taking up a lot of space on my storage card.
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Can you confirm that for me? Using TCPMP-0.72 you can watch 1280x720p videos without any dropped frames? Is this DivX/Xvid or MP4/h.264? What type of benchmark values are you getting?
Hi, Iam going through the motions of thinking about upgrading my Touch HD again, at present it is pretty much coming down to video playback.
I would be grateful if someone could download this and see how it runs on the HD2 using coreplayer, it currently pretty much wont run at all on my HD.
Thanks
http://download.bethsoft.com/trailers/fallout3/MothershipZeta-x264-6500-HD.mp4
i never was able to get coreplayer to work on my hd2, but i will say the built-in video player plays my ripped dvd mp4 files very well, with such fluidity that i dont need or want coreplayer. the only problem with the native player is the video & audio are often not perfectly synchronized, but its never bad, just barely noticeable.
i downloaded your test mp4 file, but the native player wont show the video, only the audio
all in all, the hd2 is lightyears ahead of the hd in performance. i use duttys latest 6.5.x rom, ver 23544, and with chainfires video driver, everything is perfectly fluid qnd quick. i tried a 23542 rom on my old hd and together with manila 2.5, its just too much, and brings the poor hd to its knees, and it crawls very slowly
hope this helps... if you live in the usa, get a telstra 3g model. you wont be disappointed!
It struggles a lot in TCPMP (shows possibly one frame a second) and doesn't play in Album at all.
hmm, this is not good at all, I expected no problems at all, it could be the codec though, i dont want to re-encode everthing like you have to do in the touch HD so its looks like the HD2 isnt such a good buy after all - for video anyway.
its proably the high bitrate causing the issue
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its proably the high bitrate causing the issue
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Yeah, I'd like to see a mobile device properly decode 6.4mbp/s + audio!
video is as below, the res is pretty much perfect for the HD2, low bit rate as well, this should fly being an MP4? - it is x264 though...
input bit rate 704 kb/sec
codec AVc1
48000 stereo
res 864x460
frame rate 29.9700
Plays perfectly on my 3gs. Absolutely smooth with zero frame drop.
But then who wants a toy, right? ;-)
With all due respect, while I completely understand why you would want to play back high definition video clips on a phone, it's simply not going to happen; particularly not on a phone manufactured by HTC, who have a long history of shipping phones which lack adequate hardware-acceleration for video playback. It's possible you might get adequate performance from either an Acer NeoTouch or a Toshiba TG01 - the latter (and I think also the former, though I'm not certain) ships with a hardware-accelerated version of CorePlayer which is very good; but I wouldn't be at all sure even with them.
A sensible resolution and bit-rate would be 800x480 (i.e. the resolution of the screen) and a bit-rate of 2000kb/s variable, with CABAC enabled. (See, for example, the videos attached to this post, which look very good indeed on the HD2). You will not lose any playback quality re-encoding like this, though of course there is the inconvenience of transcoding.
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With all due respect, while I completely understand why you would want to play back high definition video clips on a phone, it's simply not going to happen; particularly not on a phone manufactured by HTC, who have a long history of shipping phones which lack adequate hardware-acceleration for video playback. It's possible you might get adequate performance from either an Acer NeoTouch or a Toshiba TG01 - the latter (and I think also the former, though I'm not certain) ships with a hardware-accelerated version of CorePlayer which is very good; but I wouldn't be at all sure even with them.
A sensible resolution and bit-rate would be 800x480 (i.e. the resolution of the screen) and a bit-rate of 2000kb/s variable, with CABAC enabled. (See, for example, the videos attached to this post, which look very good indeed on the HD2). You will not lose any playback quality re-encoding like this, though of course there is the inconvenience of transcoding.
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The movie I posted is at a sensible resolution with a low bit rate, see my specs above.
Just a friendly warning to anyone thinking of dl'ing this on their mob, its an 80 meg file. Be sure and save it to sd card!
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The movie I posted is at a sensible resolution with a low bit rate, see my specs above.
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I'm sorry, but 1280x720 is not a "sensible resolution" in this context.
EDIT: Is it possible that the link you posted doesn't link to the video that you think it links to?
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video is as below, the res is pretty much perfect for the HD2, low bit rate as well, this should fly being an MP4? - it is x264 though...
input bit rate 704 kb/sec
codec AVc1
48000 stereo
res 864x460
frame rate 29.9700
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Wrong video! Your download is 1280x720
That video doesn't work but:
input bit rate 704 kb/sec
codec AVc1
48000 stereo
res 864x460
frame rate 29.9700
works perfectly!
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Plays perfectly on my 3gs. Absolutely smooth with zero frame drop.
But then who wants a toy, right? ;-)
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I don't believe you!! iPhone is a toy and plays only video from iTunes, no 1280x720 because iTunes converts the video!!
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The movie I posted is at a sensible resolution with a low bit rate, see my specs above.
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Your specs are wrong. This is what mediainfo says of your file
http://download.bethsoft.com/trailers/fallout3/MothershipZeta-x264-6500-HD.mp4
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : [email protected]
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 5 frames
Codec ID : avc1
Codec ID/Info : Advanced Video Coding
Duration : 1mn 42s
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 6 406 Kbps
Width : 1 280 pixels
Height : 720 pixels
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I don't believe you!! iPhone is a toy and plays only video from iTunes, no 1280x720 because iTunes converts the video!!
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Nope. Just have to click on the link. That brings up a screen that asked me if I want to play it direct or to download it first. In either way, it plays smoothly.
Of course it is impossible for a toy to be so good, right?
I've read articles in which the authors used an iPhone 3GS to play back 1080p video with a bit-rate of 30Mb/s - this isn't exactly stable, but it does play. 720p video would be very easy.
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I've read articles in which the authors used an iPhone 3GS to play back 1080p video with a bit-rate of 30Mb/s - this isn't exactly stable, but it does play. 720p video would be very easy.
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Why not just go to a Telco or apple store to try it out yourselves? There're just too much false information about what an iPhone can or cannot do around. Lots of it on this forum.
Don't know about what you have read, but mine plays THIS video smoothly. If you click on the link and let it stream, then you may need to wait for enough of the 80+ mb to be downloaded before the player starts. If your phone is JB you have the additional option of downloading it first before playing. Video picture is sharp, completely free if pauses, jitter, or frame drops, and sound completely in sync.
Cheers.
Edit: Thought I might as well video record how well it plays for your guys.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAGqKYlSnHA
Sorry about the quality of the recording as I was using an old camera to do the recording rather than a proper video recorder, but still you will be able to see how smoothly it plays. Please blame my camera, not my iPhone for the poor video resolution. ;-)
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Why not just go to a Telco or apple store to try it out yourselves? There're just too much false information about what an iPhone can or cannot do around. Lots of it on this forum.
Don't know about what you have read, but mine plays THIS video smoothly. If you click on the link and let it stream, then you may need to wait for enough of the 80+ mb to be downloaded before the player starts. If your phone is JB you have the additional option of downloading it first before playing. Video picture is sharp, completely free if pauses, jitter, or frame drops, and sound completely in sync.
Cheers.
Edit: Thought I might as well video record how well it plays for your guys.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAGqKYlSnHA
Sorry about the quality of the recording as I was using an old camera to do the recording rather than a proper video recorder, but still you will be able to see how smoothly it plays. Please blame my camera, not my iPhone for the poor video resolution. ;-)
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Hi, that doesnt really prove anything, you could have converted it to a lower bit to play though itunes, plus the iphone screen res is half that of he HD2.
However, who would actually bother going to those lengths to fake this?
hmmm....
Honestly, even if the Iphone could play it smoothly, does it matter here? This IS the HD2 forums, isn't it? Nothing against it, but it is getting a bit tiresome to hear about it everywhere.
After searching for the best video player for the HD2, including trying CorePlayer (latest version) and the Smart Movie 4.0, I have finally come to the conclusion that the Mobile Window Media that comes with the HD2 is the best player.
Here are the reasons why.
1. Core Player cannot play the movie Transformers 2 that comes with the HD2 smoothly while the Mobile Window Media player can play it very smoothly.
2. Instead of paying for Core Player, use the money and buy the ImTOO MPEG encoder ultimate and convert the .VOB file in the DVD disc of your favorite movie and convert it to H.264/MPEG-4 video (*.mp4) with 800 x 480 resolution and 1500 bit rate and you will get a movie that is just like the Transformer movies that comes with the HTC HD2.
Hey mate,
Just FYI the Mobile Window Media player embedded uses hardware support for video playback. The Coreplayer has yet to do this so invariably it will suffer as a result..
Fantastic guide though...Thnx..
Don't forget an xda developer -projection has also posted a HTC HD encoder.
Not sure which of the two is better but still nice to know..
You can also use Handbrake (freeware) to convert directly from DVD to MP4 (m4v).
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You can also use Handbrake (freeware) to convert directly from DVD to MP4 (m4v).
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you gotta a link for that buddy?
shimmer401 said:
you gotta a link for that buddy?
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I have the link for you, buddy: http://tinyurl.com/22vk95r
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You can also use Handbrake (freeware) to convert directly from DVD to MP4 (m4v).
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hi bro,
can you share the handbrake settings that you are using for HD2?
Thanks!
Earthbrain said:
2. Instead of paying for Core Player, use the money and buy the ImTOO MPEG encoder ultimate and convert the .VOB file in the DVD disc of your favorite movie and convert it to H.264/MPEG-4 video (*.mp4) with 800 x 480 resolution and 1500 bit rate and you will get a movie that is just like the Transformer movies that comes with the HTC HD2.
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I agree...
Using the HTC encoder from these forums today took too long and the quality was sub-par. With this program you can choose the bit-rate and the quality is sensational..
++++1 to OP
Kudos mate
I really dislike re-coding my media library in advance of wanting to watch something on the go, and I find CorePlayer handles well with almost an XVID/Divx I drop it's way, at a very acceptable quality level.
It's my two biggest gripes with this machine:
1) Windows Media Player has such limited codec support.
2) HTC won't pay Qualcomm to allow other companies access to the drivers (I think that's the reason anyway).
Either way, it nearl put me off the HD2, until I felt reassured the 1GHz Snapdragon could make up for the lack of native support.
I used that encoder year's back for my Sony Ericcson, but again I'm not prepared to put that work in (not out of laziness, I just want to be ready to go at a moment's notice and not have to factor in half-an-hour per video - nor do I want to re-encode all of my thousands of media files )
Earthbrain said:
After searching for the best video player for the HD2, including trying CorePlayer (latest version) and the Smart Movie 4.0, I have finally come to the conclusion that the Mobile Window Media that comes with the HD2 is the best player.
Here are the reasons why.
1. Core Player cannot play the movie Transformers 2 that comes with the HD2 smoothly while the Mobile Window Media player can play it very smoothly.
2. Instead of paying for Core Player, use the money and buy the ImTOO MPEG encoder ultimate and convert the .VOB file in the DVD disc of your favorite movie and convert it to H.264/MPEG-4 video (*.mp4) with 800 x 480 resolution and 1500 bit rate and you will get a movie that is just like the Transformer movies that comes with the HTC HD2.
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what you got Transformers 2 with your HD2? what the Duck!!!
hahaha
I think that there is a big flaw in windows media player: it doesn't rememeber the position of the film. That means that if you close it the position is lost. I typically look the films in small parts, as logical in a mobile device. There is a plugin to solve this but it doesn't work.
This is not a problem in core player, but core player is a lot slower.
i use a divx player on my HD2 for all my movies - they play great.
Mike
ruffruff said:
hi bro,
can you share the handbrake settings that you are using for HD2?
Thanks!
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I just use the iPhone/Ipod Touch preset. I think you can configure it for any output resolution you want though. The other great thing about Handbrake is that it can burn subtitles onto the video
hi
any body can send me link to download coreplayer for htc hd2 and divx player
Guys,
Try this out and let me know what you think about the video quality. I think it looks pretty damn good. This is the official DivX player - v0.94 (Released early 2010). The interface is very minimal but it definitely seems to be better than CorePlayer so far.
Please throw some quality high-res videos (800x480 and beyond) at it and post back.
If you guys can, it would be a good idea to throw in a few tests with Chainfire's D3D & OpenGL ES drivers.
If only WMP's "scale to fit" didn't cut off part of the video (we're talking resolutions that are LESS than 800x480).
That and the ridiculous audio lag on the HD2. I can't believe people can stand watching Transformers with that delay. Even from the very beginning where a fishing buoy is dropped into the water (and the splash is heard well after the impact, lol) all the mouths move well in advance of the words coming out.
It's preposterous. I'm holding out on the hope that Linux (accelerated) will eventually be the solution, in which case mplayer would be the "Best video player on the HD2" hands down.
thanks
thank you very much , any luck on team viewer for windows mobile version
any new software available for htc hd2
moreover, can i get advice that, whether video out is available on htc hd2
Confirmed!
This (DivX for WinMo v0.94) is MUCH better than CorePlayer. The video is very smooth, except for some very occasional freezing of the frames which is barely noticeable. I observed that only once though.
There is absolutely NO Audio lag. All my videos played fine except for one, but in this case, the audio played before the video randomly in some areas of the timeline.
I'm starting to wonder if this might be hardware accelerated.
@nagagaya: HD2 does not support TV-Out.
Woah, what a shock. I'll have to try this. I wonder when it was released, and for what devices...
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Woah, what a shock. I'll have to try this. I wonder when it was released, and for what devices...
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Going by the file date from within the cab, the release is as recent as 25-MAY-10!
Interesting... I tried it with three HQ DivX files, and they all stuttered and were jerky, compared to playing fine in TCMCP.
Ignoring playback, my general thoughts are:
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I love the Video Browser - always wanted one of these (and would LOVE one as a Sense tab)
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I wish the "Fullscreen" buttons etc were bigger.
I have 720p movies ripped from original disc to MKV on my desktop. How do I watch these 720p movies on my EVO? Is there an easier way to put movies on my EVO?
Another question, when I go to YOUTUBE.com on my EVO, all the videos look blurry and are horrible quality... Even when I do a search for 720p quality videos, when I play the video it looks horrible... What am I doing wrong?
What audio/video codecs were used during the encodong?
With youtube, click the HQ button. That should increase the quality.
i have also set youtube to high quality from the setting but still no 720p videos even after the HQ on.
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What audio/video codecs were used during the encodong?
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Nevermind, I got this program called doubletwist and it rocks!
Now I need to figure out how to play Youtube videos in HD... Whenever I am on Youtube, I do NOT see the HD so yeah...
amot said:
Nevermind, I got this program called doubletwist and it rocks!
Now I need to figure out how to play Youtube videos in HD... Whenever I am on Youtube, I do NOT see the HD so yeah...
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The Evo doesn't have support for HD video. What you're looking for is the HQ button, which stands for high quality. Not all videos have the HQ button enabled.
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Now I need to figure out how to play Youtube videos in HD... Whenever I am on Youtube, I do NOT see the HD so yeah...
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Sounds like you may be browsing to YouTube. Instead, go to "All apps" and open the "YouTube" app.
It all depends on the videos themselves. For example, lookup any new movie trailers and set the app to HQ, they should look spectacular.
Remember, Android still doesn't have a quality video player akin to CorePlayer for WinMo.
The device itself (correct me if I'm wrong) does not support playback at 720p on its own screen; it outputs 720p via the HDMI port.
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The device itself (correct me if I'm wrong) does not support playback at 720p on its own screen; it outputs 720p via the HDMI port.
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You are correct--720p is 1280x720 and the EVO's screen is 800x480. So it will play 720p video, but scaled down to fit the EVO's screen resolution.
As far as playing video on the EVO screen, I think it will play any resolution (although you may get performance issues at very high resolutions) but scaled to fit the screen.
What programs are you guys using for ripping? Just curious...
Handbrake cya
settings
handbrake.
Aspect ratio: 800 x 480
Video codec: H.264(x264)
Framerate: Same as source
Avg Bitrate: 1500
Addio codec: AAC(faac)
Audio mixdown: Stereo
Sample rate: 480
All other settings stay at default. Videos come out crazy!! I got Avatar and Iron Man
Ripping blu-ray since the screen is higher res then DVD. Using rip264 and anydvd.
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Ripping blu-ray since the screen is higher res then DVD. Using rip264 and anydvd.
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quite a fan of this myself anydvd HD isnt cheap tho unless ur using cracked version they had update for avatr BD day after it was out worked great for me i have over 1.7TB of movies and TV shows in mkv or avi mostly mkv h264 i would like to play on my Evo when it comes in is there a like VLC or KMplayer type that will play these files on the android OS if anyone does know of such software whether paid or free id appreciate it
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quite a fan of this myself anydvd HD isnt cheap tho unless ur using cracked version they had update for avatr BD day after it was out worked great for me i have over 1.7TB of movies and TV shows in mkv or avi mostly mkv h264 i would like to play on my Evo when it comes in is there a like VLC or KMplayer type that will play these files on the android OS if anyone does know of such software whether paid or free id appreciate it
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It's not cheap, but I figure that is the cost of having the freedom to copy blu-ray to my other devices. It would be nice though if it was a one time cost, but alas it is not.
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What programs are you guys using for ripping? Just curious...
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What OS you on? On my Macbook I use Handbrake, and VisualHub.