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Ive unsucessfully used the search function to found somethread like this
As a community we are here of Blackstone users, im curious whether will upgrade to HD2?
Actually im satisfied with the HD as i can do everything i need, especially with the ROMs we found here. But i think its question of time that ROM-makers migrate do Leo, isnt it?
MNilson said:
Ive unsucessfully used the search function to found somethread like this
As a community we are here of Blackstone users, im curious whether will upgrade to HD2?
Actually im satisfied with the HD as i can do everything i need, especially with the ROMs we found here. But i think its question of time that ROM-makers migrate do Leo, isnt it?
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I added a 4th option to your poll. Hope you don't mind
ill skip it for winmo 7
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Just what the poll needed thanks!! I voted the 4th..
no for me...
more todo with the HD being a work phone. not sure when im due for a replacement but as most places int he current climate - we aint replacing much kit unless it's essential.
HD does me perfect really. does everything i need it to.... although it could be a bit quicker!
i love winmo..which is coming to extreme soon
ofcourse yes
i would like to upgrade
i read opinion out here .. for me I made a query aswell if i could upgrade it or not like what iphone 2g did with 3g 100£ and upgrade option..
for me what i think is htc touch hd is great but two things missing on it...
i.e Responsive ness (really important for being quicker "as someone mentioned up" about htc touch hd not being quicker)
second is multitouch gives lots time saving on internet browsing what i learnt using iphone....
solution on htc touch hd2
multitouch and responsive ness as it uses sensitive (capacitive) screen which is in detailed mentioned on general forum aswell.
of course i am winmo lover as i hate toy type of things and the hype iphone has got.. (yet considering the usability and ease of use it has provided for general users,) i believe our htc touch hd is real tool.
in the end i would love to upgrade if there is anything like upgrade option....... as i still have my 8 months left on contract.
I'd love to, but it's too expensive to consider. I never spent so much in a mobile before as with the HD, and it must last another year at least to be worth the spent.
In most cases if there is something REALLY new on the market, it's a bit like a beta version.
See the first Iphone without 3g, touch hd with rarely supported screensize and the little bit too slow processor, or the first directx 10 cards with to slow performance for this technology, ...
Products with big "improvements" are mostly a little bit beta, so i think it's good to wait and look what's in the future
greets
/skip /skip
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Absolutely not hehe. I knew that i was missing something. Cheers
Picked 4th one .
Hoping when the winmo7 version comes out, it'll have:
* the front face videocalling camera again (i like how it gives me the option to make videocalls and portrait pics with my gf and mates by giving a preview)
* maybe an even narrower, thinner, shorter body (same 4.3in screen)
* over 1350mah battery size
* that stylus they patented
others I'd like to see:
* Not necessary, but front-touch buttons like the HD. Unless they implement hardware buttons alot better than the HD2 (imo the layout and shape looks ugly)
* oled-amoled screen
My initial reaction to leak specs and pictures was:
No....not enough improvements for me to consider
When 6.5 Leo ROMs came out I was like:
Upgrade? I can have WM 6.5 on my HD!
After reading more reviews and videos:
I’m considering.....
Now:
Is it a question? Of course, yes!
Can't wait for delivery.
It is too big IMHO.HD is perfect sized.
But the capacitive screen and the Snapdragon are so attractive...
It's a hard choice
The faster CPU, multitouch (FINALLY) and the bigger screen make me find it worth the upgrade.
As for WM6.5 on the HD, ok, it works, but the HD is still, as it always was, underpowered for such a big display.
Only under the best and freshest of circumstances does it run smooth.
The new gen CPU should change this considerably.
And get ready, my supplier states HD2 to be deliverable on the 6th!
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ill skip it for winmo 7
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will have to 2nd that.
Have chosen Option 4.
More CPU Power is good but it is too big now (Not a problem though) and the removal of the front cam and stylus is really bad.
Better camera software is needed and flash should be better.
just to post a quote from msmobiles
Edward J. R. said:
HTC made it: thanks to their big investment in research and development, they are the first to release Windows Mobile phone with multitouch. But there is one big problem:
... namely, unlike Samsung, that is providing SDK for Samsung Windows Mobile phones to take advantage of accelerometer, compass, etc, HTC is not providing such SDK at all, what is a big problem in case of HTC HD2, as one of our readers have noticed:
* Whatever remains of the Windows Mobile community is going bonkers over the HTC HD2 and its hacked-in multi-touch support. Why in the world does this matter if third-party apps won't be able to use it? I'm sure we'll see community API efforts on XDA-Devs, just like for past HTC controls (circular controller, zoom bar, accelerometer, etc.), but that's not going to extend very far beyond XDA.
Obviously what's needed is first-party support from MS, but given that WM development on MS' part has been in a coma for several years, the next line is the OEM, and HTC's support would be quite useful to build a collection of third-party apps that actually make some use of the device.
People talk about matching the iPhone-- sure, the HD2's hardware is impressive, but given its likely software state, it'll be miles away from the iPhone in actual usefulness. Why care about a digital compass, accelerometer, or multi-touch that won't work in any third-party apps?
Conclusion: since HTC HD2 is extremely expensive, maybe users should wait for Windows Mobile 7 phones where third party developers will be able to take advantage of multitouch and compass? Or maybe HTC should wake up and provide SDK for their Windows Mobile phones at last?
Note: according to leaked specifications of Windows Mobile 7, HTC HD2 will not (!) be upgradeable to Windows Mobile 7.[/QUOTE)
Maybe yes, we should wait.
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i'm really thinking about it, but i think i will wait for the next device announcement.
i guess it will have a smaller screen (capacitive also, maybe 3.8?) with snapdragon 1ghz processor and QWERTY keyboard.
that's what i need
Yes - the Touch HD's poor processor is annoying me everyday. It can't even handle predictive text when sending an SMS in a timely fashion.
It was great at the time, but it's now time for the HD2.
i would skip because i already spent a fortune on hd so it should atleast last another year...
but the snapdragon and capacitive touchscreen really makes you drool
Thought about upgrading, but then it's a really expensive phone that only corrects the HD shortcoming (power, speed, camera, capacitive...)
I will wait for the next generation of devices, and an OLED screen before I upgrade. The next question for me will be to decide between Android v2.0 (it's now only starting to become a real alternative to winmo if the Exchange support is done correctly), and Windows Mobile 7.0
Frankly at the minute, from what I see of WinMo 7, I am not impressed at all...
Bottom line is I'm stuck between choosing between these two great devices.
B7610
Advantages
- Affordable
- Great keyboard (although the sensitivity of the HD2's display eliminates the need for this)
- Feature packed camera
- Internal storage
Disadvantages
- Chunky build
- Not capable of running WM7 due to capacitive display absence possibly making the device obsolete
- Slow/Old generation processor with significantly slower GPU
- Slow bulky ROM
- Reserved memory leaving only 140mb accessible
- Very soft digitizer prone to scratches
HD2
Advantages
- New gen 1GHz processor with fast GPU
- WM7 capability
- Large Multitouch display
- Fast ROM with decent support and Developer support
- Lots of RAM
- Slim solid metal build
- WiFi Draft-N capability
Disadvantages
- High price point
- No TV-Out (very disappointing for a multimedia device)
- camera quality is a little worse than Omnia's but I hate the fact that there is no 720p capability whereas the Omnia does
- No USB hosting? (Omnia probably doesn't have this either but I may be wrong for the HD2 so please confirm whether it has it as it would be useful for the Zeno USB packages)
- Less format support built in.
I'm really leaning toward the HD2 because of the amount of support it gets but I really don't like the idea of it being 720p incapable and that the Omnia family have better cameras and media support. I want to make the right decision because to be perfectly honest, $800 is quite a lot to shell out on a mobile device and I want it to be a quality purchase.
i was having this issue too 3 months ago, i wanted b7610 befor reading anithing about leo, but because leo came first(by the way b7610 is still nowhere to find here even today), i switched teams, and i don't regret making this decision. i like this breed , and by the way its much much more than b7610
Hi! thanks for the quick reply. I can get the B7610 off eBay no problem and it's significantly cheaper too. The Tv-out and all that are not bothering me too badly, it's the camera thats really pissing me off. I mean why is it that HTC are making such a high end media device and cram a crappy camera into it that can't even capture or play 720p. I've heard a lot of people complaining about it also with the dodgy pink dot? What is going on HTC?? Please prove me wrong, I still have a sweet spot for the HD's design. If you can find a patch that can fix these, like maybe the Omnia's camera app for it that will allow 720x480 recording, I'll jump straight for the HD2 no questions asked.
Windows Phone 7 Series will not support SE X1
Microsoft is putting an end to free style design and is specifying three variants of Windows Phone 7 devices, that prescribe form factor, CPU, graphics and possibly more. Each variants, or “chassis”, specifies one of the most popular form factors, though we only have specifics for Chassis 1 for now.
Chassis 1 describes the requirements for “big touchscreen” phones. There’s no minimum screen size or resolution yet, but previous rumors suggested 3.6” WVGA. The minimum requirements for the CPU are 1GHz (that’s right - minimum) and graphics hardware is mandatory (Microsoft really wants to ensure a smooth UI experience it seems).
Not much is known about Chassis 2 and Chassis 3. Chassis 2 will have slide-out QWERTY keyboards in addition to the touchscreen (we guess CPU and graphics requirements are the same) and the Chassis 2 devices are said to be Treo-like (strange, because the Treos are bars with portrait QWERTYs, there’s no sliding).
It’s the Windows Phone 7 Chassis 3 devices that have the bar form factor. That would make them Treo-like, rather than the Chassis 2 phones, which sound more like, say, the Sony Ericsson XPERIA X2.
Previous rumors about the minimum hardware requirements for Windows Phone 7 devices also listed minimum camera resolution, GPS, Wi-Fi and even a minimum set of hardware buttons. These vary quite a lot, so we’re not sure about the specifics, but it looks like Windows Phone 7 devices will be inhabiting the high-end segment only.
The first Windows Phone 7 Chassis 1 devices should launch in time for this year's holiday season. There's no word on when Chassis 2 and 3 phones will launch.
This is very old news that both X1 and X2 won't support WM7.
... and yet some people are still asking for it.
(even now when WM7 isn't much more than a concept to the public)
there are even people in hermes forum asking for wm7 roms
The XDA chefs have spoiled everyone lol
I know its a very old news but now its official ;p
Hell, WM 6.5 isn't supported for the X1. Much less WP7....
WM 6.5 isn't supported, but the point is WP7 will likely be IMPOSSIBLE on Xperias.
So long live 6.5 !! (even though companies like Adobe and Skype are already abandoning it)
Is anyone else sad about the demise of Windows Mobile or at least apprehensive about Windows Phone 7 Series?
Demise is too big word I think..
About WM 7 - I feel interested and excited,
but equally afraid of rumours showing it a bit more locked platform.
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Hell, WM 6.5 isn't supported for the X1. Much less WP7....
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What does that mean? I see alot of ROMs with titanium and WM 6.5 traits. Heck, even the Samsung Epix supports WM 6.5, it has titanium + the new and improved start menu and soft keys at the bottom.
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What does that mean? I see alot of ROMs with titanium and WM 6.5 traits. Heck, even the Samsung Epix supports WM 6.5, it has titanium + the new and improved start menu and soft keys at the bottom.
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If you see an X1 with Win 6.5, it's a hacked phone. There is no official WM 6.5 for the X1. The OP was complaining that WP7 won't be supporting the X1 when there is already no WM6.5 support for the X1 (try calling SE and tell them you're having trouble running 6.5 on your X1 and they'll just laugh at you)
ha, funny, I was just about to ask if X1 can run Win Phone 7
good thing I did a search first
so this post was in Feb, what about now? still can't?
anggogo said:
ha, funny, I was just about to ask if X1 can run Win Phone 7
good thing I did a search first
so this post was in Feb, what about now? still can't?
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I can not see how anybody would want to put such a worthless UI in there phone, The dam UI looks like it was designed by 12 year old lol. But if you want a UI like that try Windows Phone 7 V2 by Fireslave it's pretty much the same except you can't use WP7 apps and etc.. but you can still multi-task haha .
Hey guys recently I have to do some development on G-sensor/ accelerometer, and I plan to do it on Windows Mobile. Since I have no experience on G-sensor development so there are few questions to ask.
I did the searching in the forum but didn't get what I want. Any suggestion is welcomed!!
Here are my questions:
1. Which phone should I buy ?
[MySpecs]
A phone that is suitable for performing g-sensor/accelerometer(3 Axis) development on.
2. About SDK
I've downloaded Samsung SDK and htcsensorsdk (link:blog.enterprisemobile.com/2008/07/using-htc-diamonds-sensor-sdk-from-managed-code/), and a sample sensortest from Scott's blog (link:scottandmichelle.net/scott/index.html).
For HTC
1) htcsensorsdk/sensortest, where can I get the latest version?
2) which phones do they support? (Touch HD/HD2, Touch Diamond/Diamond2, Touch Pro/Pro2)
3) Is there other or better SDKs?
4) what is the maximum sampling rate I can get? Or which chip is used in the phone so I can google it to get more details about the g-sensor.
For Samsung
1) Since Samsung officially offer SDKs to do development, why still lots of people (I think) do development on HTC phones? Are there some tech reasons that I didn't know?
Thanks lot!!!
The HTC sensor SDK should work on all HTC devices after the Diamond that have an accelerometer. You can get sampling at around 40ms on the Diamond, above that things start to go less well.
With the HTC sensors, there's a wobble of +- about 20 (1G is around about 1000 with the SDK), when the device is stationary.
I think the Samsung SDK is generally less popular as Samsung devices aren't as popular as HTCs (don't ask why). The Samsung SDK is a lot better, it's official and doesn't rely on hacks, but I'm not sure what data you can get out of it.
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The HTC sensor SDK should work on all HTC devices after the Diamond that have an accelerometer. You can get sampling at around 40ms on the Diamond, above that things start to go less well.
With the HTC sensors, there's a wobble of +- about 20 (1G is around about 1000 with the SDK), when the device is stationary.
I think the Samsung SDK is generally less popular as Samsung devices aren't as popular as HTCs (don't ask why). The Samsung SDK is a lot better, it's official and doesn't rely on hacks, but I'm not sure what data you can get out of it.
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Thanks for the suggestion, I've brought Leo. Again Thank you very much!!
Windows Mobile Unified Sensor API
Windows Mobile Unified Sensor API
The Windows Mobile Unified Sensor API allows developers to easily access the hardware sensors that are available on various phones.
Sensors:
Light Sensor
Capacitive Touch Pad
Accelerometer
Devices:
HTC Touch *
Samsung Omnia/Instinct
There are now samples that demonstrate the usage of each sensor!
Senax said:
Windows Mobile Unified Sensor API
The Windows Mobile Unified Sensor API allows developers to easily access the hardware sensors that are available on various phones.
Sensors:
Light Sensor
Capacitive Touch Pad
Accelerometer
Devices:
HTC Touch *
Samsung Omnia/Instinct
There are now samples that demonstrate the usage of each sensor!
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It would sure be appreciative if the LG Fathom WM phone was included too.
WaltA said:
It would sure be appreciative if the LG Fathom WM phone was included too.
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I agree. No games with the g-sensor work on the fathom.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32FMNz6tX1s
2K 5.7 inch OLED Screen ( 564pp a ) ClearBlack technology as the true black with black and Corning Gorilla Glass with a solid maintaining a building with 4 visits . Qualcomm Snapdragon MSM8994 810 v2.1 version of the code that uses the named Lumia 950 as xl't performance , to ensure a trouble-free experience on Windows 10 . Adreno 430 graphics processing unit 3GB of RAM and a 32GB microSD supported phone support ( 2TB ) We have storage capacity . As you know Snapdragon ALSO solve the problem by adding warm liquid cooling system in 810 companies , technology has led to a policy that we see in the PC for bringing to mobile devices !
5.7" WQHD (2560 x 1440) 518PPI
Battery6
Replaceable battery
3340mAh
3.8V
Built-in wireless charging, fast charging
Wireless charging standard: Qi
20MP auto focus with two-stage capture key
Digital zoom: 2x
6-lens optics
Optical image stabilization
Sensor size: 1/2.4"
F-number/aperture: f/1.9
Focal length: 26mm
Flash type: Natural flash
Features: Backside-illuminated image sensor, High-resolution zoom 2x, PureView, True 16:9 sensor, Fast Focus
Minimum focus range: 10cm
Wow microsoft really is emptying qualcomm unsold old socs every year.
they seems perfect devices to me...
maybe i will give a try for first time to windows mobile os
My big question is, are both of these really going to be AT&T exclusives? If so, can a purchased unlocked phone be used on Big Red?
They seem great devices. The L950 would be perfect and I was dead set on buying it when it comes out to upgrade the L830. Until I saw they dropped the hardware capacitive buttons for on-screen keys. Makes me reconsider the upgrade, I really don't want that buttons bar on my screen.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32FMNz6tX1s
2K 5.7 inch OLED Screen ( 564pp a ) ClearBlack technology as the true black with black and Corning Gorilla Glass with a solid maintaining a building with 4 visits . Qualcomm Snapdragon MSM8994 810 v2.1 version of the code that uses the named Lumia 950 as xl't performance , to ensure a trouble-free experience on Windows 10 . Adreno 430 graphics processing unit 3GB of RAM and a 32GB microSD supported phone support ( 2TB ) We have storage capacity . As you know Snapdragon ALSO solve the problem by adding warm liquid cooling system in 810 companies , technology has led to a policy that we see in the PC for bringing to mobile devices !
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this phone has a ppi of 518 not 564. also qualcomm did nothing to add liquid cooling, this was all microsoft. if qualcomm did this then more phones would have this tech but only microsoft has it. microsoft is bringing this tech to their phones from their tablets.
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They seem great devices. The L950 would be perfect and I was dead set on buying it when it comes out to upgrade the L830. Until I saw they dropped the hardware capacitive buttons for on-screen keys. Makes me reconsider the upgrade, I really don't want that buttons bar on my screen.
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You can hide the on-screen bar, and swipe up from the bottom of the screen to bring it back in case you need it.
LOL @ watercooling on a phone.......
I hope I'm not speaking out of school here, but the Lumia 950 is exactly the hardware that I was hoping the Nexus N5X would be. But I'm so deeply entrenched in the Android ecosystem that I think I'd be lost with Windows on my phone. Is there any likelihood of future development work here at XDA or elsewhere to bring Android to this hardware?
Androip Apps?
Hello,
I would like to ask if you think side-loading (?) android apps on the 950/950 XL would be possible ? Or MS would take notice patch the holes. I am asking because I was quite excited when I read somewhere that the sharp people on xda developers managed to do something like that. I am in a mood to buy a new phone and that 950XL really intrigued me. If adding some android apps to fill the app gap that the windows phone have that would be really great!!
Ps. I don't mind the tinkering on the phone
Although there is a youtube link, this isn't really a review per se, I have changed the title to a discussion.
I was surprised that Microsoft didn't mention anything about Android app support. As you mentioned, it is possible today with the latest Windows 10 Preview builds. I am running my favorite Android app on my Windows Phones. NOTE: This isn't an XDA hack, just a leak from Microsoft. Microsoft build the Android environment into the device. I think they are saving some announcements for the release of Windows 10 Mobile.
It is a big step forward.
I thought i heard somewhere that they were making android apps available on this phone as well.
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I thought i heard somewhere that they were making android apps available on this phone as well.
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This is about the only thing keeping me from ditching my Note 3 (and Android entirely) and making the switch. I looked on the MS App store a couple days ago to see of the apps I use which are available, I don't use all that many apps regularly so some that I currently use are not a big deal. But, of the apps I regularly use there is an Instagram Beta app (from what I can tell it's been in beta for who knows how long), Whatsapp and a YouTube app (although I would prefer a YouTube app from YouTube/Google not a 3rd party app).
There is no Kik, Plex, Slacker, Tablet Talk etc. are not on there. Heck, the Windows app store does not even have the latest version of Lync (it has Lync 2010, but not Lync 2013) which is an MS product!!
I have a couple months to decide what I want to do, but at the moment am going to find it hard justifying a switch to Windows Phone unless some kind of android app support, or a larger number of apps are ported over to Windows phone.
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You can hide the on-screen bar, and swipe up from the bottom of the screen to bring it back in case you need it.
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I know how it works, I already enabled it for testing on my current 830. That's how I know for sure I won't like it.
There is Kik and Plex mate...
The best phone(s) of 2015, no doubt. Most of Google's stuff are available in browser, and Google Now doesn't support my language, so as long as I can get Nova launcher or similar tile replacement app (I tried them, not my cup of tea), I'm jumping ship.
Lync 2013 is now called skype for business in the windows store for Windows 10, windows 10 for mobile, and Windows phone 8.x
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There is Kik and Plex mate...
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Thank you, I wonder why I could not find either the other day when searching the store. Oh well, found both of them today so that's at least 2 more apps that will be available. Going to be a hard time deciding between the 950XL and a Nexus 6P on Project Fi. I may miss my stylus though from the Note 3, but can easily live without it and am wondering if there will eventually be (or is there already?) surface pen support on the 950XL