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Hi all. Need some help please. I had recently used the 'hide' TrayApplet program but after uninstalling Spb Shell, decided that I could do with it being back, but don't want large icons on my Today screen again.
Hkey_Local_Machine\SOFTWARE\HTC\TrayApplet
above I found the links to each of the icons in the tray and can successfully point them to programs of my choice. Great!!
No! The links now work a treat, but the old icons remain the same (therefore hard to distinguish what does what until you tap it).
Does anyone know how to or where the registry entries are for the icons in the TrayApplet? e.g when I tap on the web n walk icon, I now get my configured Internet Explorer, but no associated icon.
Any help appreciated.
No one here hot on Reg-editing? Tried looking at the Universal wiki and their Reg hacks, but it most of it seems to be filed using different naming conventions and some alternative methods.
In any event. The above post shows where the links are (in seperate folders)....which can be permanently deleted and will then remove them from the TrayApplet.
Thanks for the info. I am still trying to decide what to do with the tray on my phone.
Try this cab file.........i'm using it on my Ameo now. It creates a programe in your programe folder with which you can turn on/turn off your tray applet as you wish. Hope it helps
Sorry MACKABY007, never read your firsy post correctly oooops
thank you!
neildunne said:
Try this cab file.........i'm using it on my Ameo now. It creates a programe in your programe folder with which you can turn on/turn off your tray applet as you wish. Hope it helps
Sorry MACKABY007, never read your firsy post correctly oooops
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SWEET!!! Now I can change my mind as often as I wish!!!! YEA BABY!
Thanks for the post bro.
neildunne said:
Try this cab file.........i'm using it on my Ameo now. It creates a programe in your programe folder with which you can turn on/turn off your tray applet as you wish. Hope it helps
Sorry MACKABY007, never read your firsy post correctly oooops
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No probs neildunne..at least you tried to help.
And someone else has benefitted from your answer.
Is there a simple regedit to enable/disable the trayapp?
Yep there is
Yes you can do it manually.
Go to HKLM\init and create a strin Launch92 and give it the value TrayAp.exe. When you want to remove it delete the key.
Can somebody post the HTCHomeplug plugin so I can use this one instead of the taskbar?
WA3 will solve it.
I'm happy. God is listening.
System Tray Features
* Added the ability to place program icons on the system tray.
On the screenshot above, you'll see icons that don't normally appear on the system tray. WisBar Advance 3 now allows you to place icons on the tray as a "quick launch" bar, similar to iLauncher and several other software packages.
Get it here:
http://www.lakeridgesoftware.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11258
hide tray
hello!
can I simply remove the tray? can I put the hidetray somewhere when e boots up it removes the tray?
tried on \windows\startup with no sucess..
best regards,
Deiota
WA3 still rocking...
Deiota said:
hello!
can I simply remove the tray? can I put the hidetray somewhere when e boots up it removes the tray?
tried on \windows\startup with no sucess..
best regards,
Deiota
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Yes you can in Wisbar Advance 3...still in Beta, but well worth a look IMHO.
Please can you help me doing it with WA3????
What do you mean by "but well worth a look IMHO"...
Best regards,
Deiota
Deiota said:
hello!
can I simply remove the tray? can I put the hidetray somewhere when e boots up it removes the tray?
tried on \windows\startup with no sucess..
best regards,
Deiota
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I too would like to remove this tray bar at the bottom. I dont like it and cannot find how to remove it on my X7500.
I know how to do it on my universal, but the registry is not the same.
Any light on this would be greatly appreciated
Thanks
Adam
Anyone? I am using WAD right now but I do not appreciate how slow it run in comparison to not using it.
neildunne said:
Try this cab file.........i'm using it on my Ameo now. It creates a programe in your programe folder with which you can turn on/turn off your tray applet as you wish. Hope it helps
Sorry MACKABY007, never read your firsy post correctly oooops
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Thanks from me for this too.
Although I am curious to know... from the community at large perhaps... the Today screen is evidently made up of a series of components... TSk files for the theme... applet files for additional display options... the HTC plug-in software to modify the HTC HomePlugin etc.
It seems a bit odd to me... given the apparent effort put into theme creation software by quite a few writers... that those same coders stopped where they did... at themes.
It seems like only half of the job... even the admittedly-clever HTC Home Plug-in Customiser goes that far and no further.
I'd expect at least one developer to come up with a more comprehensive product... the modules do exist as separate entities... theme designers... plug ins and customisers... and especially with the advent of WM6 and VGA screens...
I've had two Blue Angels now for a couple of years. It never occurred to me to play with themes. The only modfication of the desktop was from whatever software went in and did so as part of the package... XCPU Scalar and some SPB items for example. I never even bothered to upgrade the Windoze from 2003SE. Everything seemed to work alright, and most software that I try to use on it still does too.
Now we have two Ameos as well... both running different versions of WM6... different ROMs... one of which (the later) is T-Mobile.
And, probably due to the larger screen, I decided to take a look into the desktop.
The T-Mobile flavour did indeed come with this Tray App, and it is only today and on here (naturally) that I have actually found out the designation of the thing.
XCPUScalar knew all about it long before I did, and stuck it's Speed, Reset, and Off buttons in it.
The other Ameo came with what I think may be a vanilla (HTC) version of WM6 and the HTC Home Plug-in... and I only recently learned about that here too... none of this appears in the little manuals T-Mobile inlcude with the Ameo of course.
I wonder now, as I write, if a fairly basic and simple method of getting rid of the Tray App may simply be either removing it from the Windows folder or perhaps renaming it.
Either way, your method works well for me... as does XDA-developers per se... and without whom all HTC customers, whether members here or not, would be a great deal poorer.
Personally, I do wish that I understood a good deal more of the subject matter, especially in the deeper-delving posts... but at least with xda-developers being here... all of you... the possibility exists.
Thank You once again... all of you.
QF
Downloaded a cab file from a chinese website, its a today plugin that when you click takes control of your today screen and gives you many buttons to cycle through move around etc drag and drop. Has its own background and signal bar etc. Seems to be a simple application launcher which slightly resembles the iphone. Found it in an elf thread but not sure if it is from an elf. I searched the forum and cannot find anything really like it(i mean apon looking at the contents of the cab versus the content of other things I have found here) I would like to find it in english if I could figure out what to call it. I am attaching the cab file, havent gotten a screen shot of it yet but its not gonna trash your phone just the characters wont display if you do not have chinese installed.
Any help appreaciated.
Jeff
Anyone know what this is? Is it malicious? I stupidly installed it, but it shows up nowhere in directory structure, remover programs, settings, or program folder.
It is not malicous I have installed it myself and it shows up in remove programs to uninstall. It not showing up at all is strange, what are you running? Did you reset after you installed it?
I am running LVSW's latest wm6 release. It installs and works fine except for the fact that chinese characters do not show.
I did a check on the CAB, and it seems alright. It is called "dDockView", installed to your "Program Files\dDockView" dir. All files are installed there, 2 at "\Windows" and a shortcut. Nothing in the registry, nothing nastily `malicious`. Two of the files in \Windows are "dDockView.xml", "dDockPlugin.dll". Delete these if you want to remove it.
From what it seems, it only execute if you run the "dDockView.exe" in "Program Files\dDockView"
And runs on WM6 only.
UPDATE:
Attached screenshots. It looks.. ifoney. From what it seems, to be a launcher, that, the bottom part gives you the 'Menu' or 'Page' for the programs icons above.
You'll have to modify the XML in \Windows to point to your program and icons, I think.
Hey thanks for posting the screenshots I was just about to upload some myself. I knew it was a launcher but none of the chinese would show up as I did not have the local installed.
Is this comparable to the iphone app posted in these threads? Ive been searching but I havent found anything close to what files it installs I can only assume that its something the chinese have made but do not quote me on that. I wonder how hard it would be to convert it to english.
Jeff
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It is not malicous I have installed it myself and it shows up in remove programs to uninstall. It not showing up at all is strange, what are you running? Did you reset after you installed it?
I am running LVSW's latest wm6 release. It installs and works fine except for the fact that chinese characters do not show.
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I have yet to take any rom plunge. I am runing wm5 on my 8525 all I have done is put on the newest version of radio 1.43.
When I installed it I told it to use my storage card and it did not fail but said install was ok.
Your afraid to upgrade os but are ok updating the radio? I seem to remember reading that it is easier to brick your device radio updating than just upgrading the os but do not quote me on that.
@hanmin Since you were able to see the chinese characters, what was displayed on the normal today screen where you launch the program? Mine just showed an icon with many squares of course because I could not see chinese.
It seems like a decent launcher for one handed operation and the drag and drop works nice, still havent figured out how to customize it all yet but time will tell.
Jeff
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Your afraid to upgrade os but are ok updating the radio? I seem to remember reading that it is easier to brick your device radio updating than just upgrading the os but do not quote me on that.
@hanmin Since you were able to see the chinese characters, what was displayed on the normal today screen where you launch the program? Mine just showed an icon with many squares of course because I could not see chinese.
It seems like a decent launcher for one handed operation and the drag and drop works nice, still havent figured out how to customize it all yet but time will tell.
Jeff
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Didn't say afraid, said I hadn't done it yet. Still reading and checking on what one I want to try first.
@Bohemian, I'm sure Psiodon doesn't meant to say 'afraid', probably the word 'worried / doubtful' is the word he is trying to use. Anyway, good that you are doing that. There are various newbies around that jump in and die without knowing why
@Psiodon
I didn't install the app myself. I've just examined the CAB contents and did a bit of goggling myself. I don't even know that there is a today plugin (probably I've missed some lines in the CAB). From what it seems, you can happily skip the today plugin and launch it 'normally'.
@Boh, yes I did not mean scared afraid as hanmin said, just that you did radio first as I have not done radio yet but have done os many times hehe.
@Hanmin, I must be retarded how did you get those screenshots without installing it, some emulator or other way of extracting them? The retard thing can be verified with your reply haha.
Jeff
@Psiodon You can google for screenshots? There are forum discussing it with screenshots. Just grab it from there? And, yes, there are emulator for WM5 devices if you are interested. Get it free from M$.
Are those forums in chinese or english, could you post a link to it?
Thanks in advance
Jeff
can anyone covert it to english Please
@Psiodon Google for "dDockView"
@aih1977, from what it seems, it uses a XML file for all the setup and stuff, but it also has a few DLL files which maybe difficult to convert to English.
Hi Guys,
This today plug-in come pre-installed in S1 Dopod in china which is the HTC Touch "Elf". But this is only availible in default for china market.
You need to edit the xml to do batches change to del unwanted icon.
Too bad this come in chinese lang only. And I having some program in adding new program using the standard GUI. Think I need to use the xml to add new program.
That makes sense the chinese care nothing about copyrights which sometimes is a good thing.
The software has its own custimizing app built in, you just click the little down arrows and it gives you options to delete and add new as well as lock unlock the drag and drop capability, you can change text font colors etc, it has its own button library graphics you can select from etc.
It does what its supposed to do, launches apps, displays your messages count etc, goes directly to what you want it to go to, email for email, text messages for sms etc, self customizing (to an extent) drag and drop icons for ordering. Clicking the clock brings up time of course, clicking the service bars brings up phone properties. Its pretty quick to do its various tasks and seems to be a complete program, I did notice that it doesnt seem to show the status of bluetooth wifi etc at the top or maybe I havent figure out how to configure that.
If it were in english would be alot better thats for certain.
Psiodon
Translator needed...Chinese
I know that some people here speaks chinese, so could any of you please look into this and translate it
Is there a easy way to break of a DLL change (e.g. translate) it and put it back?
easy way hmmm. I tried translating it myself but with my limited knowledge on such things I couldnt really get anything important changed to english, just a few menu options that you could already figure out yourself. I had to change my local to chinese to get those characters to show up in my editing programs. Then had to make shift sign the exe then copy it over to the phone. Couldnt figure out the signing cab thing and didnt work much on that since I couldnt get much changed into english. I guess the other chinese is hidden in there somewhere but with the programs I used I couldnt figure it out. The other thing that bothers me about the program is that it will let you add control panel items, but not program items, when you select that option it just sits there. I assume some path being different on the chinese version of windows mobile 6? So with all the effort I didnt get far.
There are many people out there who translate programs from different languages, maybe they have more of a clue than I do, and the ability to fix the path problem with adding programs.
Psiodon
Psiodon said:
That makes sense the chinese care nothing about copyrights which sometimes is a good thing.
Psiodon
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Does this have something to do with the subject? So you're White western good thinking people? I wonder what you do around here?
Here is a wait animation package for WM6 with 10 cursors and an install mortscript. Same animations used by Juryduty for his WM2003 cursors. I have 25 of these I've done, this package only contains 10 because they're kinda big.
EnJoy!
Nice! Thanks!
Will this work on WM5? is there a possibility to let this work or a same programm for WM5? please tell me..
Thank you! very nice!
didnt work well on my mogul. wouldn't uninstall, had to hard reset.
for WM5 try here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=317476
this script will probably work for them, but you'd have to edit it if the resource name is different , and rename them 'filename.wait' then zip them to wait.zip.
the resource name for WM6 is 'shellres.96.dll' you'd have to find out about WM5 and make the corresponding changes in the script 'waitskins.mscr'.
As far as having to hard reset, did you mean soft reset? This sometimes happens to me randomly after installing a cab and can happen with any cab. I don't think it has anything to do with the cab, but more to do with the state of your device when you install it.
At any rate all this cab does is copy some files to 'programs\waitskins' (or 'storage card\programs\waitskins')and 2 shortcuts to windows\start menu\programs.
The script uses Mortscript4.01b12. It unzips the skins, copies the selected one, deletes the unzipped files, and tells you to do a soft reset. Thats it. Hardly anything to worry about.
it didnt work well with my very top bar in my today screen. after i installed the cab my clock, speaker icon, and signal icon were messed up. i couldnt change the icon back to the origanal wm6 after i changed it to one of the 10 you provided. after that i uninstalled and it wouldnt go back to the wm6 icon. i finally HARD reset my phone and had a fresh backup from earlier that day. no biggie, i may have installed wrong. i would like to get this to work, i may try again. thanx tho, Jody
The icons problem happens when the file hasn't been signed. I've signed all these and they work on my COOKED WM6 device. maybe your device doesn't like the certificate I used. I really don't know for sure.
When this happens you should be able to run the waitskins program, select CANCEL and this will delete any skins on your system, then a soft reset will get you back to the default thats built into your rom. then an uninstall.
Sorry about your hard reset...but since you just barely did it you might want to test this again and find out if the problem is with ALL of the skins, and weather or not the above tip saves you from another hard reset.
thanks for the feedback and if you test this any further please let me know what you find out.
Joeman
work for me (wizard wm6), but I can't change back to the original one , the cancel just change the cursor to the latest one.
It will be good if you attached more skin here.included the original one.
thank
thanks nice one
I would like to complain because I am an a$$. But I cannot, these are a great choice of icons. Anyone with WM6 aught to give it a try.
Great work!
Finally I tried these awhile back but would not work!! They are awesome! Thank you!
I found the original cursor here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1451996&postcount=37
& try to change name to "original.wait" then add to zip. after running it's work ,but have error at the top bar icon as oakwestplayer comment.
any comment
nice cursors, thanks
bit off topic, but that m & m dance looks more like "Cool Spot" to me
anyone remember the old megadrive/genesis game.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cool_Spot
ong9:
Looks like the file needs to be signed.
Look for a tool in this forum called "multiple file signer' and use it to try to sign the file.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=306982&highlight=multiple+file+signer
If the file signing failed then try to find the 'file Unsigner', and unsign it then sign it again.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=329160
This has worked for me.
The multiple file signer lets you choose from 3 different certificates, if one doesn't work try the other two.
If this doesn't work for you then I don't know what to tell you.
Good luck!
Joe
BTW Funy yes that IS cool spot, (LOL) I didn't even notice the .GIF name but in the package I've called him COOL SPOT! Guess that's why I've seen that animation with the color changed (green blue etc.). I don't even think it looks like the M&Ms (must be the sunglasses), that's probably why I didn't make the connection. Good eye!
Hey all,
Just saw this over at PPCGeeks TellMe according to the posts everything seems to be working but the touch screen on the TP2. Was wondering if you guys could shed some light on the problem.
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Hey all,
Just saw this over at PPCGeeks TellMe according to the posts everything seems to be working but the touch screen on the TP2. Was wondering if you guys could shed some light on the problem.
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it will not install on my tilt 2
nor mine, with stock ROM. Gets to about 67-72% and then tells me there is a problem.
copy it to your device, then try again. worked for me, i'm on a sprint tp2. touch screen won't be working, but i was able to send a text and everything from this. pretty sweet app.
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copy it to your device, then try again. worked for me, i'm on a sprint tp2. touch screen won't be working, but i was able to send a text and everything from this. pretty sweet app.
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I copied the zip to my device and then unzipped the cab to my storage card. I clicked it and it tried to install and it failed at about 70%. Can you give explicit details?
I have a tilt 2 on ATT just to be clear.
copy the .exe to your device and run it. i got the .exe off of www.ppcgeeks.com, scroll down the front page of news for the thread.
Can you go step by step by step, the program stops for me at 72 percent as well. I have a verizon touch pro 2.
The exe file is in the zip from PPCGeeks. I originally copied the zip and extracted the exe to my Tilt2. Install failed at around 72%. Seeing what peple said about copying the exe to my device, I unzipped the file on my PC and copied it to my phone. Same thing. It ran, then exited around 72%. It would seem that it does not install on the Tilt or Verizon version TP2, but does on the Sprint TP2.
Kind of weird it would install on one GSM phone but not others.
P.S. I also just tried to copy it directly to my device and run the exe from there rather than my storage card. No go.
I came across a website (don't remember where) where a user said it needs .net CF 3.5. I've installed successfully after the .net CF install.
Try this cab
I see theres an updated cab a few pages down
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=92493&highlight=Tellme&page=17
I downloaded the attached cab and it installed fine. I only tried one command, and it could not understand. Will try others, but at least it installed.
I installed the cab....nothing happens...
Edit: Tried exe file, didn't work...it installs, I get an icon, but nothing happens. That's either install.
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I installed the cab....nothing happens...
Edit: Tried exe file, didn't work...it installs, I get an icon, but nothing happens. That's either install.
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Did you try the cab that I posted?
Make sure you have MS Voice Connect installed. Then go to the Voice Connect settings, under the Settings/Personal/Voice Command and UNCHECK Enable.
Install MSVoice and then install the TellMe cab.
However I am having issues with it. I was able to get it to run, but it took a while to translate the first time, but could not send message due to not being able to access the network.
Now, it wont even run. I click on the icon, it opens for a split second, then it closes. Ive uninstalled it, reinstalled, and its the same thing.
I had my wi-fi on, and for some reason, that kept the TellMe from opening and staying open. Very strange.
It still wont connect to the network for whatever reason. I can tell it to text "Me" and it tries to transcribe the message, that is when I get "Cant access mobile network". So some how it is getting blocked. And for some reason, it has to connect to some server to even translate!
Anyone have any luck with this program yet?
this is working fine for me. i first tried the zip. from pcgeek, and that did not work for me then i installed the cab. from this post, and it work good. if you say text bob it will pull up bobs info, and then ask you what to write and then rights it pretty well. say with making calls and searching for something on the net.
only problem is that it isn't touch friendly. you have to use the bottom task icons. you cant touch the middle screen icons.
i have tmobile with stocked rom
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I downloaded the attached cab and it installed fine. I only tried one command, and it could not understand. Will try others, but at least it installed.
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The only thing it did for me was start to compose a text message but then said it could not contact network...
Other than that it didn't "Catch" anything else..
Looks like I need to work on my pronunciation!!!
Doesn't work for me
I might have missed something here, but I'm sure it doesn't work on my TP2. Weird that the installation was successful and the icon appeared on my start menu, but when I tapped on the icon it brought me back to the home screen.
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I might have missed something here, but I'm sure it doesn't work on my TP2. Weird that the installation was successful and the icon appeared on my start menu, but when I tapped on the icon it brought me back to the home screen.
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With my experience, if I have WiFi on it would do that. There was another scenario too that make that happen. If you have ATT, you probably wont be able to connect anyways even if the program opens up. If it opens, I get to start commands but it has to contact a server, and its blocked on ATT for some reason.
I would like to both find the following 2 fixes and cook them into my rom, but i cannot yet find the fixes - perhaps someone could be so kind as to help.
1. I do not want to see the 'could not connect' message - yes I have disabled both the connected and disconnected option but cannot find a way to remove that message. Really annoying when using TomTom.
2. When I tap the little keyboard at the bottom, to bring up the on screen keyboard, half the tme I accidentally get the input option menu I never use this and only want the standard keyboard - can I disable the option menu?
I have more questions, but am working through them as I think they are solvable by me with more time research.
Many thanks.
EDIT - See post 22 for likley solution to problem 1
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1. I do not want to see the 'could not connect' message - yes I have disabled both the connected and disconnected option but cannot find a way to remove that message. Really annoying when using TomTom.
2. When I tap the little keyboard at the bottom, to bring up the on screen keyboard, half the tme I accidentally get the input option menu I never use this and only want the standard keyboard - can I disable the option menu?
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1. I don't know.
2. [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\HTC\ezsip]
"EnableSipMenu"=dword:00000000
Softreset...that's it.
Thanks, but I have tried that and it did not work. (I have gone back and checked that the reg edit was still there after the soft reset, and it was.)
TomTom breaking Manila
I still cannot answer my two initial questions, but have come across a strange issue.
I have tried to cook TomTom into my ROM to save time on the install. I have done this is the past with old style kitchens on previous phones no problem.
I have used the cab to ext converter in OsKitchen and made a package. If I inlcude the package in my ROM however, Manila will not start. Itr just syas tap here to start HTC Sense, and then flickers a bit but for love nor money I cannot make it start.
By a process of elimination I am sure it is the TomTom package causing this.
Running the cab via cab does not cause this issue.
Would anyone know what the problem might be?
Cheers
Don't use the cab converter to make the EXT. My guess is that the cab has a setup.dll, and the converter is missing something important. Here is how you want to make the package:
Install the cab; get all of the files created and put them in your package. Obviously, there will be files in \program files, but there may be some dumped into \windows, \my documents, the device root or \application data or \startup. There may be a new directory in \windows. Find those files and put them in the package as well; organize them however you want. Personally, I'd relocated the .exe and dll's and anything else I could into \windows, but I've never used tom-tom and don't know how it's organized or how it works.
Next, get all of the registry keys (after you register the program). I'm guessing that it's HKCU\software\tomtom or hklm\software\tomtom or something similar. There may also be other keys installed elsewhere (like clsid keys). Find those. If there's a setup.dll, you can open it with a text editor and probably see where they are. Some may appear in the _setup.xml. The best way to do this is to track changes with sk tracker, or do it the hard way and compare the registry before and after install with windiff (comparing full registry exports).
Once you have all the files and the reg keys, build the package. Clearly, the package builder is failing you, so I'd punt on it. Don't cook in the setup.dll, though (or anyting with a similar name, like tom-tomsetup.dll; sometimes there's more than one). Also, sometimes more complicated cabs will have zip files that install further during installation-open these up, look at them to make sure you have all the contents, then remove from the package.
Just a little add to Farmer Ted's excelent instruction.
I use wince cab manager to extract a cab, this will give you the registry plus the file locations.
This will give you something to compaire and helps you easier search what you are looking for.
The file locations you can create yourself in initflashfiles.dat or app.dat
To export a registry on device I use registry workshop.
With registry workshop you can export registry from your device straight to your pc.
If you are planning to realocate all the files to windows you need to edit the shortcuts to so they direct to windows and not program files for example.
The shortcuts you can open with a tekst editor.
Thanks guys - much appreciated.
The problem is that TomTom runs fine, its just that it screws up Manila. I will try and pull the cab to pieces as advised to make sure it is converting properly and also to see if I can spot anything that might impact Manila in the registry etc.
I dont suppose you have any thoughts on teh original two questions?
Not realy, but if the cab runs fine but your package isnt then there must be something wrong in the package isn't?
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I dont suppose you have any thoughts on teh original two questions?
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There is actually not much in the cab.
Using Wince cab Manager I can see no setup.dll
There are also no reg entries - nor can I find anything in the reg on the device that does anything other than list the install directory.
Looking at th files it installs, there are a couple of bluetooth files that can cause an error - odly it seems to not affect me when it is a cab but it must overwrite the windows ones when it is cooked in. The only thing I can think of is that it also has a phone.dll that presumably overwrites the one in the sys.
I will try cooking without this in my next build and see.
Unfortunately I am out of time as have recooked/flashed almost ten times trying to tie down this issue and then getting back to a stable base.
I have also 'broken' Arkswitch which was working on earlier builds. Don't think its related though.
crazyC said:
Thanks guys - much appreciated.
The problem is that TomTom runs fine, its just that it screws up Manila. I will try and pull the cab to pieces as advised to make sure it is converting properly and also to see if I can spot anything that might impact Manila in the registry etc.
I dont suppose you have any thoughts on teh original two questions?
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It's weird that it screws up manila; I don't use manila (or T-T, obviously), so can't help you there. I'm just guessing that you're missing a registry key that you need to get the package to work. Is there a tom-tom demo (not warez)? If you post a link, I'll take a look at the cab to see if I can make an ext from it, or figure out what's going on. Some cabs are just a *****, and you're better of doing a cab install. You should see the Redfly cab, it's sick, lol. It's one that has a zip file that does a secondary install. I hate it. I also hate Redfly, but that's another story.
I read somewhere that with some sip buttons, if you press the left half, it launches the keyboard, and if you press the right half, it launches the menu. I've never experienced it myself, and don't know which builds it affects or why it happens. Is this what's going on? I'm just guessing, since you say it eff's up half the time. I have no idea how to disable the connection message, but I wouldn't mind knowing how, either. It's annoying as crap.
What's your device memory left over?
I'm just thinking, maybe you could exclude TomTom from the taskmanager exclusive list.
Sorry one more idea, you are cooking for Rhodium right?
HD2 and Rhodium have a simulair bluetooth stack.
I remember on first HD2 roms there were some problems with TomTom and bluetooth on HD2.
Just a taught.
crazyC said:
There is actually not much in the cab.
Using Wince cab Manager I can see no setup.dll
There are also no reg entries - nor can I find anything in the reg on the device that does anything other than list the install directory.
Looking at th files it installs, there are a couple of bluetooth files that can cause an error - odly it seems to not affect me when it is a cab but it must overwrite the windows ones when it is cooked in. The only thing I can think of is that it also has a phone.dll that presumably overwrites the one in the sys.
I will try cooking without this in my next build and see.
Unfortunately I am out of time as have recooked/flashed almost ten times trying to tie down this issue and then getting back to a stable base.
I have also 'broken' Arkswitch which was working on earlier builds. Don't think its related though.
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Thanks both for your continued help.
Yes I am cooking for the Rhodium and am using the Rhodium Manila plus Cookie 1.6.1 so as to keep memory use in check. Ok I have added in the 1.8 HTC messaging but it doesn't cause a problem. Memory is about 40% free on first boot - am also using 23568 as the SYS base. I also use Ameba.
I think my Arkswitch issue is due to something else cooked in, but being honest I dont really use Arkswitch much and so am going to drop it next time I cook I think.
Farmer Ted - There is no issue with TomTom as regards Warez as far as I know - the program is fine - it is the maps that must be purchased and talking about getting round that is where the problems arise. The program itself is OK.
I might get one last chance to cook and flash tonight to check out my theory about the Phone.dll. If not I will post back and throw myself on your mercy, although as you say, it might be better to just live with the fact it will be a cab install. due to the way the files interact and the fact that the tomtom package works, I do think something is being overwritten in the cooking process and all I can see is that file.
The reason I have persisted with TomTom is that I have made an old style OEM package in the past from the cab with no problems (long lost kitchen).
With regards to the Bluetooth issues - I have sorted those now AFAIK.
RESULT! re TomTom - will post back after putting my little girl to bed.
OK - to summarise.
I ran TomTom through the cab importer within OsKitchen and it produced a package.
Although the cab had installed and run with no errors, cooking it in created 2 errors.
Firstly, there was a bluetooth message about bttray or something not being a valid application.
This is caused by two BT files in windows being overwritten by the TomTom ones. Simply renaming the two fiels to include the word OLD in the name sorted that. I will just remove them next time as I do not think they are necessary if the windows files are there.
The second issue was that Manila would not start. I believe this is due to a similar issue to the above, in that phone.dll was being overwritten. I renamed the file to PhoneOLD.dll and cooked in the package and now Manila starts.....
Still looking for answers to my first two questions though
(and yes its cos I keep hittingt he side of the button with my fat fingers that the keyboard selector comes up)
I'm not sure what's up with the keyboard, although I use Resco, so maybe you don't get then menu popup when you hit the wrong half. Have you tried killing SIPGT_app.exe? Maybe it won't pop up with that killed. If that's the case, then remove the bootlauncher key in your ezinput package. Killing it may not help, though.
I could not find that exe file to kill. The keyboard behavious is I believe as it is intended to work - just not how I want it. But are you saying Resco Keyboard fixes this?
However my final reflash last night seems to have gone a bit nuts. I am now getting all sorts of problems with apps not being able to run because they are unsigned etc or bits missing.
We are talking about stuff cooked in that has previously worked flawlessly.
Had some issues with my PC last night as well. I think I need to go back a step when I get home tonight and maybe rebuild the kitchen.
Time and kitchens have moved on a little, but as things are going well, I am back to my original 2 questions that continue to perplex me:
1. Is there a way of stopping the 'cannot connect' bubble from coming up, or even to make it automatically close after say a few seconds.
2. Is there a way of stopping the keyboard selector menu from popping up when the side of the keyboard icon is hit. I just want the qwerty option and do not want the menu to come up ever.
I have been able to make no headway at all with (1), - found mention of one cab somewhere but the link had expired - and have tried various things for (2) but with no success yet.
Anyone?
Cheers
PS- to follow up my previous posts yes the fixes I mentioned for Tom Tom work fine - it was the 3 files causing the issues.
In my old Kaiser roms i used the below reg key to disable connect notification,sorry i really dont remember if it disable also"cannot connect".
Code:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Notifications\{8ddf46e7-56ed-4750-9e58-afc6ce486d03}]
"Options"=dword:00000000
Disable Sip Menù is the same reg key that another guy posted here:
Code:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\HTC\ezsip]
"EnableSipMenu"=dword:00000000
I tried it on my HD2 before posting here and setting it to 0 it leave the menù where you can select keypad,compact qwerty,full qwerty and language,it is still present a little menù with the option and my guess is that this isnt removable.
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Time and kitchens have moved on a little, but as things are going well, I am back to my original 2 questions that continue to perplex me:
1. Is there a way of stopping the 'cannot connect' bubble from coming up, or even to make it automatically close after say a few seconds.
2. Is there a way of stopping the keyboard selector menu from popping up when the side of the keyboard icon is hit. I just want the qwerty option and do not want the menu to come up ever.
I have been able to make no headway at all with (1), - found mention of one cab somewhere but the link had expired - and have tried various things for (2) but with no success yet.
Anyone?
Cheers
PS- to follow up my previous posts yes the fixes I mentioned for Tom Tom work fine - it was the 3 files causing the issues.
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Cheers for that - I am concluding that the SIP issue I wil live with, and I already have that reg key set to zero for the connections issue, to no avail. I am experimenting with some other keys, but its really shooting in that dark, and as I cannot readily reporduce the notification, it will be a few days before I can even see any change.
Oh well. I will update if I get anywhere.
Ooooohhh, following some more digging, I MAY have an answer re the cannot connect bubble. I saw someone elses solution and that has actually led me to what could be far simpler.
I will try and cab it up later tonight for other to try. It is just a reg entry
EDIT - maybe I spoke too soon.
I am testing this by alternating between 3G and 2G on the comm manager - normally this will pull up the message. (Could someone confirm this as a valid test method).
I thought I had it solved, then the message appeared, but have done it another ten times with no hint of the message.
Some more testing to do......