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"Diamond" Digital Clock Install Program?

It seems they are just little number files but they won''t overwrite the existing files that are in the Windows directory.
Anyway I really like the look and wonder if there is a CAB type file that will install and voila, you have the Diamond look digital clock?
Anybody know of such a program?
Or a really simple set of instructions.
I followed the instructions and I can't get it to work.
Or how about a way to get the "Diamond" Digital Clock in to S2U2?
Help... help... help...

Hi Jim,
I was actually looking for quite some time and found a diamond digital clock cab. It was here in XDA but I cant find the thread I found it in (It was in the main hacking and development thread)
I'll just repost the cab file and hope I dont get reemed out. I take NO credit for makng this file what so ever.
I had tried installing it before on my vogue and it wasnt working then I upgraded my rom to 6.1 and figured Id give it a shot and it worked. I dont know if that had anything to do with it. it SHOULD still work in WM6 I just wasnt able to get it to work for some reason.
I think you have to disable HTC home as well too before you install the cab.

Nice find!
When I try to install on 6.1 it says "Installation unsuccessful". Any thoughts?
...Nevermind. For some reason it was copying itself when I put it on the sd card and one of the files was broken.

when you have it running is the clock in h:mm:ss tt format (ie 8:04 pm) or is it in hh:mm:ss tt (08:04 pm) I cant for the life of me get the zero infront of the single digit time (anywhere from 1-9 am or pm). just really erking me thats all. I had only installed this myself last night when I saw this thread asking for it so sort of a coincidence.
Anyway.. yeah let me know how your clock works and if you had to do something to fix it. I went into the regional settings and what not and changed the time format but still didnt change anything even after a reset.

For anyone who's installed the cab I posted and had the same issues I had (the 0 infront of the time (08:43 pm) then heres a quick fix I found in the hacking/development thread in the main forum.
Just copy the file in the zip file to your new HTC Home folder on your phone. Should be /HTCHome, sp right in the phones main directory alone with my documents and program files etc. If when you copy it over to replace the exsiting HH_Home_off. png in the folder it wont work go and disable the HTC Home plugin then copy it. That worked for me. Now I finally have a normal looking clock without always having to have 4 numbers showing.

Aaron McCarthy said:
Hi Jim,
I was actually looking for quite some time and found a diamond digital clock cab. It was here in XDA but I cant find the thread I found it in (It was in the main hacking and development thread)
I'll just repost the cab file and hope I dont get reemed out. I take NO credit for makng this file what so ever.
I had tried installing it before on my vogue and it wasnt working then I upgraded my rom to 6.1 and figured Id give it a shot and it worked. I dont know if that had anything to do with it. it SHOULD still work in WM6 I just wasnt able to get it to work for some reason.
I think you have to disable HTC home as well too before you install the cab.
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I just installed and my text messages dont work. any idea?

Installed great! thanx a lot.

Since I installed this I can only select Bakersfield for my weather.
Anyone know a workaround?
Also this plugin severly lags my touch, anyone else?
Thanks.

diamond clock
So does anyone know of a diamond clock that actually flips like the real diamond clock?? All the skins for HTC HC are great but i would love to find something closer to the real deal.

Actually it doesn't lag anymore, but my weather is ONLY Bakersfield.
IS that with everyone else?

mfpreach said:
Actually it doesn't lag anymore, but my weather is ONLY Bakersfield.
IS that with everyone else?
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I had this same issue... What I had to do was uninstall it.. use the normal HTC home and reselect my city then reload on this updated version. Aparently all you have to do is add the XML of your city somewhere in the registy... I have no idea how so if anyone knows how feel free to let us know.
Since I did the steps above I havnt gone in to "Change city" anymore and it updates my city fine

Aaron McCarthy said:
I had this same issue... What I had to do was uninstall it.. use the normal HTC home and reselect my city then reload on this updated version. Aparently all you have to do is add the XML of your city somewhere in the registy... I have no idea how so if anyone knows how feel free to let us know.
Since I did the steps above I havnt gone in to "Change city" anymore and it updates my city fine
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I uninstalled and reinstalled and it worked as you said it did. However, when I changed it from Fahrenheit to Celcius thats when it updated to Bakersfield.
I can sort of understand Fahr, but Celcius would be much nicer. I think the benefit outweighs the cost so i'll use canada + fahr . Unless you know how to fix this.

Like your TF3D background... here are some small clocks

Hi,
I was missing some small clocks that do not block the TF3D background too much.
To solve my "problem" I just created two versions in black and white. One with a semi transparent clock background and one without a clock background.
The actual numbers are a little far away from eachother but experimenting getting them closer gave some nasty image conflicts. If anyone has an solution let me know and I update the clock.
If you are looking for any other color let me know and I get it done for you.
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EDIT: 23 Nov 2008
Version 1.1
Available colors in zip:
Black
White
Updates:
Used a bit better readable font
Updated positioning
Fixed Lower Curtain error
To Do
Change distance between numbers
Make Semi Transparent flip smaller

thank you very much

Very nice but...
... I can't get it to work with Sprint theme. Still have the Sprint clock BG and the : between the numbers

hi thanks for ur clock
But I got one problem after installing ur clock, the touch flo bar at the bottom turned into a thinner style after I have installed ur clock. how can i change it to normal style? thanks

The idea of smaller clock is brilliant, but these are just too small

@g0mib0y
Like mentioned in the readme you should use the diamnond config tool from susilange to restore to original files from you rom. If you do a quick search on the forum you should be able to find the tool to restore your TF3D. Before you restore can you post a screenshot for me to see what happened as it works good on my end. I would like to fix it for eveyone.
@jonson10
I guess that it works different for the sprint rom. I will take a look at this and see how others have get it to work for the sprint ROM.
@usper
I'll take a look at making them a little bigger for you
Grtzzzz MachinemaN

Machineman said:
@g0mib0y
Like mentioned in the readme you should use the diamnond config tool from susilange to restore to original files from you rom. If you do a quick search on the forum you should be able to find the tool to restore your TF3D. Before you restore can you post a screenshot for me to see what happened as it works good on my end. I would like to fix it for eveyone.
@jonson10
I guess that it works different for the sprint rom. I will take a look at this and see how others have get it to work for the sprint ROM.
@usper
I'll take a look at making them a little bigger for you
Grtzzzz MachinemaN
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hi, however, i am using the original rom plz help

p.s. i'm using touch pro but not diamond, thx

jonson10 said:
p.s. i'm using touch pro but not diamond, thx
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Find the files that are in the zip in your \Windows folder on your device.
Delete them and soft-reset. They will restore from the ROM.

dickenz said:
Find the files that are in the zip in your \Windows folder on your device.
Delete them and soft-reset. They will restore from the ROM.
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But I want the small clock as well

@ dickenz
Thanx for the follow-up. this is indeed the best thing to do when the diamond config does not do the trick. Weird however seeing that the config tool deletes all the manilla files and restarts so it will be reinstalled from the ROM and should solve the problem.
@ jonson10
I'll take an other look at the issue somewhere today. Which clock did you use the clock with the glassclock background or the one without background? Let me know so I can take a better look at it. There are some files in the glassclock BG that could cause this but I need to know for sure you are using this

i like the idea of a smaller clock, but with the border around the clock still being the same size it eliminates any reason i had to download it i dont suppose you could reduce the size of the border around so the calender etc are pushed up more into the center of the screen?

Machineman said:
@g0mib0y
Like mentioned in the readme you should use the diamnond config tool from susilange to restore to original files from you rom. If you do a quick search on the forum you should be able to find the tool to restore your TF3D. Before you restore can you post a screenshot for me to see what happened as it works good on my end. I would like to fix it for eveyone.
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Works fine with original manilla theme

these look really good, but they are too spaced out, is there anyway to get the clock that size but with less space between the numbers?
another idea i have is, if you used the ones with no background and removed the numbers too!!
NOONE has made an invisible clock yet and it would be the best way to get a full wallpaper
i would really like the invisible clock.
would this be possible?
thanks for your help and your small clock <- EDIT i have just realised how bad that sounded lol sorry

i like your clocks however i am having trouble installing it..i am using Resco explorer to copy the files in the windows directory but i get the following error:
First it says that the destination file is in ROM and that i can damage my system if i continue. After i click on yes i get the following:
Cannot move file xxxxxx. The file already exists.
i tried searching for this but i couldnt succeed until now...
cant anyone help?

Created some updates on the Small Clock You can down load version 1.1 from the first post. Update history is also listed there.

Giannis86 said:
i like your clocks however i am having trouble installing it..i am using Resco explorer to copy the files in the windows directory but i get the following error:
First it says that the destination file is in ROM and that i can damage my system if i continue. After i click on yes i get the following:
Cannot move file xxxxxx. The file already exists.
i tried searching for this but i couldnt succeed until now...
cant anyone help?
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Did you setup the resco explorer to overwrite all files? You can do this under Menu\Options\General than under the tab Files check all boxes and select Copy.
Let me know if that did the trick.

thats how it was set up but it didnt want to work..anyway, i used total commander and it worked..

Ok good to see it was solved any way. It is weird as I use the Resco myself and do not have this issue :-S
Anyway it is solved so that is the most important

Really great work!
What I would really love, is the transparrent one, but with white digits insted of black.
Could you do it?
Pretty please!!!
Cheers,
livit

[APP][18-06-09] AnX1 Actionscreen v1.2 (Manila, Forest and Shadowsong)

* Discontinued *
New thread at: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3976864

Thanks alot for this, I wasn't keen on the other 1 but this is perfect! Good work!

it looks nice

I like your choice of items a bit more
Thanks!

well done
really usefull

Cheers! Good to see you people like it.
If there's anything you'd like to see improved, post it and I'll consider the good ideas.

edit: opps. i just realised i was posting this here should have been in the original thread...ohh well. mods feel free to delete this
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i like it a lot as it is but there are a number of things you might want to consider:
1-i think an extra raw of apps can be added while keeping the the finger friendliness.
2- make it startable as an executable or soft key from tf3d hoome or button
3- option for discovravle mode blutooth
4- make it easy to change default apps

ohh btw, why is it relatively big 1.6mb for an app starter. can it be redused? mabe change the color depth or something

It's mostly the skin. The original application uses a sucky compression. There's no way I can reduce it and to me, 1.6mb is squat.

"Shutdown" gives an error (it didn't with smaberg's):
"Couldn't find PowerOFFLNK.lnk or PowerOFFEXE.exe"
Also "Calculator" gives the waiting icon and then nothing - I probably either have to edit the shortcut to windows default calculator or find HTC calculator from somewhere... Any ideas where to get the one that works with this setup?
Is the editing of application paths the same as with smaberg's? BIOTOUCH etc?

I actually like this one more then smabergs one, but it still isn`t perfect. Would it be possible to create a setup tool which would allow you to edit all the buttons?
I can`t imagine it being too hard since it`s just a few reg changes you would have to make?
//edit: I would love to make it myself but I guess it would take ages (at least, maybe longer) before I would be done.
However, if anyone knows the command you have to pass to the text client to automatically start the message for a certain person I would be more then pleased .

Draqula said:
"Shutdown" gives an error (it didn't with smaberg's):
"Couldn't find PowerOFFLNK.lnk or PowerOFFEXE.exe"
Also "Calculator" gives the waiting icon and then nothing - I probably either have to edit the shortcut to windows default calculator or find HTC calculator from somewhere... Any ideas where to get the one that works with this setup?
Is the editing of application paths the same as with smaberg's? BIOTOUCH etc?
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I'll fix it in 1.1.
And yes, the calculator points to HTCCalculator. As this is based on smaberg's app, the paths are edited the same way.
You can download the HTCcalculator from this forum.
dekeijzer said:
I actually like this one more then smabergs one, but it still isn`t perfect. Would it be possible to create a setup tool which would allow you to edit all the buttons?
I can`t imagine it being too hard since it`s just a few reg changes you would have to make?
//edit: I would love to make it myself but I guess it would take ages (at least, maybe longer) before I would be done.
However, if anyone knows the command you have to pass to the text client to automatically start the message for a certain person I would be more then pleased .
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Creating that setup tool would take me longer than it would take you (and everyone else) to find out how to edit it.
Also, you'd only be able to edit the execute paths, not the icons (skin).
And I don't know the parameter for a certain person (even if it's possible).
*** EDIT ***
Updated to 1.1.

Angelusz said:
Creating that setup tool would take me longer than it would take you (and everyone else) to find out how to edit it.
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True. That`s why I`m editing it right now.
I want to make a cab of it cause I reinstall allot!
But I have a little problem creating a new cab.
I used a cab extractor to get all the files out, but what did you use to create the cab itself?
I used several tools but they all fail to install..
Thanks in advance for the help, I really appreciate it.
//edit: I managed to create a cab, actionscreens rock

Great. Thanks for 1.1.
I found the HTC Calculator and now everything not only looks great but also works

I actually managed to create a cab. Furthermore, I was able to make a shortcut for a sms contact (well technically it`s a number, but it stands for a contact)
The shortcut should be to tmail.exe and its parameters are:
Code:
-service """sms""" -to """the number"""

dekeijzer said:
I actually managed to create a cab. Furthermore, I was able to make a shortcut for a sms contact (well technically it`s a number, but it stands for a contact)
The shortcut should be to tmail.exe and its parameters are:
Code:
-service """sms""" -to """the number"""
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Hehe, nice one. Making cabs isn't hard, just use WINCE cab mgr.

great app and good things added to smabergs port
but i think with this u can do so much more.
beginning with the skin. the shadowsong skin doesnt fit on any x1 and the manila skin is boring for me.
i really like to give a contribution to this app in form of a new skin/design
but i dont know how to do it. can u pack all the image files in 1 rar and upload it here so i can modify them?
thnx in advance
(oh and sry for bad english...)

just a word of advice to all who use this app.. I have american x1a and used phone (babied) it was pwerfect, until i tried to take battery cover off and inadvetantly put a finger on the power button while leveraging it off. my power btton sunk in and jammed, staying with no way of extracting. cost me 185 to repair via sony, they formatted my phone and were less than helpful... DONT ABUSE UR POWER BUTTON! IT MAY JAM!

killerskincanoe said:
just a word of advice to all who use this app.. I have american x1a and used phone (babied) it was pwerfect, until i tried to take battery cover off and inadvetantly put a finger on the power button while leveraging it off. my power btton sunk in and jammed, staying with no way of extracting. cost me 185 to repair via sony, they formatted my phone and were less than helpful... DONT ABUSE UR POWER BUTTON! IT MAY JAM!
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I vote +1 for "funniest post in the X1 forum". xD
Oh, and Kid_DC, the shadowsong skin fits perfectly with my TF3D shadowsong theme
I know what you mean though. I've already improved the black skin a bit.
The skin files are installed to your \windows\AnX1\Actionscreen folder, they're .brn files. You can find a converter brm <-> bmp here on xda.

and why do u use brm, when u first have to convert them?
are they smaller?

Changing from Vodafone theme?

I've been looking around to see if there's a stock HTC theme for the touch pro 2, as I've got the Vodafone one, which is annoyingly red.
Is there a cab out there somewhere to get ride of it, does anyone know?

This http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=527644 is the best one that I have found so far but it does have some issues.
Is this the scottola from the dvd forums?

stunno said:
This http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=527644 is the best one that I have found so far but it does have some issues.
Is this the scottola from the dvd forums?
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Thanks stunno, what issues are you finding?
I'd forgotten how flash happy I'd got with the Kaiser, it seems weird searching around again. Some of the tweaks on the site are incredibly clever, it's great here.
Yep, it's me from the dvd forums.
Talking of issues, I'm going to cry if I hit the off button once more by accident, I've got to find a different way to hold the phone when typing.

It looks like we are sorted!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=528888
and if you follow the weather location program instructions ie copy the manilla file to your SD card before you install this and then copy it back to thw windows folder afterwards, you don't get French place namse

Fantastic - works perfectly so far, thanks for linking to this!
I didn't do the thing to preserve English place names, and I've lost my shortcuts etc, but it's worth it - looks so much better!
Cheers!
EDIT: I've had issues with this, and now need to hard reset my device, as it won't start (gets stuck on Vodafone boot screen). This hapenned after installing this, then AnX1 Nature's Grace v1.0 over the top. This did not work, so I uninstalled both. I then tried to install this theme again (which failed near the end), and now the phone won't start, so I'll need to hard reset

I had an 'episode' this afternoon, too.
Somehow the start.exe reappeared in the task list on the home page and I accidentally clicked it. Manila hung as usual but then would not start at all, so I had to hard reset.
This time I installed the black theme first and am hoping for good things

stunno said:
I had an 'episode' this afternoon, too.
Somehow the start.exe reappeared in the task list on the home page and I accidentally clicked it. Manila hung as usual but then would not start at all, so I had to hard reset.
This time I installed the black theme first and am hoping for good things
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Did you also install AnX1 Nature's Grace v1.0?

No I just installed the black theme that I linked to above.
Some of the fonts were a bit off on the AnX1 theme, so I thought I would wait until/if they were sorted.

2 days in and it's working perfectly!
After installing the black one from the Topaz secion I installed the Touch of Blue theme and it is spot on!
I think it must have been the cfc compression that was causing the problem

stunno said:
2 days in and it's working perfectly!
After installing the black one from the Topaz secion I installed the Touch of Blue theme and it is spot on!
I think it must have been the cfc compression that was causing the problem
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Hi, thanks for the info, I have just got a Vodafone one and the display is doing me in, my mates HD (unbranded) is what I am after!
Unfortunately what you posted (and other peoples links) are gobbledegook to me as I am an absolute beginner in this field.
I am not stupid, I am not lazy ( I have searched and read) but most TUT's assume you have a basic knowledge etc. I even downloaded a pack of utils to dump my own ROM as an experiment as a thread says 'this is what you need' but when I opened it I got a migrain as it was just a swarm of applications with no clear 'start'.
So what I am asking (nicely I hope) is that someone details step by step how to do what you have done, ie remove the shocking red/pink theme on my Vodafone Pro2 and get something like the stock colours on there.
I understand this is not a 'hard' fix just yet, but will try all the same.
Thanks.
elab
EDIT: Ok I have installed it and it is workin great !! Only one problem, I could not see a 'manilla' folder in Windows to backup prior to install and so now I cannot set the UK in the weather section, anyone know how to get my UK location back please (i use the weather app a lot !)

I think you may have a French manila file. You need to look for Royaume Uni for United Kingdom
There isn't a Manila folder the files you needed to back up are the ones in the Windows folder with manila in the name and no extension
EDIT: I have attached my English weather manila file (or I hope I have), extract it to your windows directory with Total Commander and overwrite the one that is there, then soft reset

stunno said:
I think you may have a French manila file. You need to look for Royaume Uni for United Kingdom
There isn't a Manila folder the files you needed to back up are the ones in the Windows folder with manila in the name and no extension
EDIT: I have attached my English weather manila file (or I hope I have), extract it to your windows directory with Total Commander and overwrite the one that is there, then soft reset
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Thanks Stunno, you are a gent !
Last question for now (I hope!) I am struggling to overwrite the file using Total Commander, I assume there is a way to turn file protection/write only status off is there?
Thanks again, I do appreciate it.
EDIT: Sorted it , I renamed the old file, pasted in the new and rebooted. Your file was the right one, thank you !
See, I am learning already

Glad to be of help.
After all that's what this site is for!

I have a vodafone TP2 too the red theme is annoying but I'm growing to like the white background and light feel to the theme, there are two things i would change.
1. the red part of the theme, I think a black/grey glassy look against white would look amazing on such a high Res screen.
2. the notification bubbles that pop up over the TF3D icons for SMS and email are small dark red with red numbers and are almost invisible. Nedd to be changed.
Is there an app or instructions for creating a new full theme for TF3D ??
I used to skin a lot of today screens and launchers on previous devices WM and Palm, haven't done it for a while but would like to have a crack at a new one for my TP2

stunno said:
I think you may have a French manila file. You need to look for Royaume Uni for United Kingdom
There isn't a Manila folder the files you needed to back up are the ones in the Windows folder with manila in the name and no extension
EDIT: I have attached my English weather manila file (or I hope I have), extract it to your windows directory with Total Commander and overwrite the one that is there, then soft reset
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Thanks for the file, i managed to get my english weather back with it but this other version of TouchFlo is completely missing the facebook intergration for the contact cards????
any help?

Ooh, I hadn't realised as I didn't use Facebook on my phone before I changed the theme.
I'll have to do some research
EDIT: Have you looked at Skybook?
http://www.magnifoca.com/products.html
Not ideal I suppose but better than nothing, and better than the garish VF theme!

for those who are only annoyed by the message counter bubble (pretty hard to read black text on dark red background!), there is a fix here:
http://forum.vodafone.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=29331&st=20
just one file to copy... pretty risk free...

redmanmark86 said:
Thanks for the file, i managed to get my english weather back with it but this other version of TouchFlo is completely missing the facebook intergration for the contact cards????
any help?
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I think this might solve your problem
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4117638&postcount=5

Cheers for the 'dot'. I too have actually got quite weirdly fond of the vodafone rom after complaining about it to begin with.
I've changed the themes, etc and ended up changing back again, the only other thing I'd like to change is the bar that pops up when you are changing between favourite contacts. Black on red just doesn't work.
I'm assuming now that it's possible to change in the same way the 'red dot' is changed. Maybe it's time I stopped scratching the surface and got stuck in!

I've been using Max TTM (TF3D Theme Maker) to get rid of the Vodafone theme, only thing I can't change is the black text colour on all the screens (except home) which means you have to pick a lighter wallpaper to be able to see sms and the settings screens.

2 very specific questions (Disable the cannot connect bubble solved)

I would like to both find the following 2 fixes and cook them into my rom, but i cannot yet find the fixes - perhaps someone could be so kind as to help.
1. I do not want to see the 'could not connect' message - yes I have disabled both the connected and disconnected option but cannot find a way to remove that message. Really annoying when using TomTom.
2. When I tap the little keyboard at the bottom, to bring up the on screen keyboard, half the tme I accidentally get the input option menu I never use this and only want the standard keyboard - can I disable the option menu?
I have more questions, but am working through them as I think they are solvable by me with more time research.
Many thanks.
EDIT - See post 22 for likley solution to problem 1

crazyC said:
1. I do not want to see the 'could not connect' message - yes I have disabled both the connected and disconnected option but cannot find a way to remove that message. Really annoying when using TomTom.
2. When I tap the little keyboard at the bottom, to bring up the on screen keyboard, half the tme I accidentally get the input option menu I never use this and only want the standard keyboard - can I disable the option menu?
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1. I don't know.
2. [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\HTC\ezsip]
"EnableSipMenu"=dword:00000000
Softreset...that's it.

Thanks, but I have tried that and it did not work. (I have gone back and checked that the reg edit was still there after the soft reset, and it was.)

TomTom breaking Manila
I still cannot answer my two initial questions, but have come across a strange issue.
I have tried to cook TomTom into my ROM to save time on the install. I have done this is the past with old style kitchens on previous phones no problem.
I have used the cab to ext converter in OsKitchen and made a package. If I inlcude the package in my ROM however, Manila will not start. Itr just syas tap here to start HTC Sense, and then flickers a bit but for love nor money I cannot make it start.
By a process of elimination I am sure it is the TomTom package causing this.
Running the cab via cab does not cause this issue.
Would anyone know what the problem might be?
Cheers

Don't use the cab converter to make the EXT. My guess is that the cab has a setup.dll, and the converter is missing something important. Here is how you want to make the package:
Install the cab; get all of the files created and put them in your package. Obviously, there will be files in \program files, but there may be some dumped into \windows, \my documents, the device root or \application data or \startup. There may be a new directory in \windows. Find those files and put them in the package as well; organize them however you want. Personally, I'd relocated the .exe and dll's and anything else I could into \windows, but I've never used tom-tom and don't know how it's organized or how it works.
Next, get all of the registry keys (after you register the program). I'm guessing that it's HKCU\software\tomtom or hklm\software\tomtom or something similar. There may also be other keys installed elsewhere (like clsid keys). Find those. If there's a setup.dll, you can open it with a text editor and probably see where they are. Some may appear in the _setup.xml. The best way to do this is to track changes with sk tracker, or do it the hard way and compare the registry before and after install with windiff (comparing full registry exports).
Once you have all the files and the reg keys, build the package. Clearly, the package builder is failing you, so I'd punt on it. Don't cook in the setup.dll, though (or anyting with a similar name, like tom-tomsetup.dll; sometimes there's more than one). Also, sometimes more complicated cabs will have zip files that install further during installation-open these up, look at them to make sure you have all the contents, then remove from the package.

Just a little add to Farmer Ted's excelent instruction.
I use wince cab manager to extract a cab, this will give you the registry plus the file locations.
This will give you something to compaire and helps you easier search what you are looking for.
The file locations you can create yourself in initflashfiles.dat or app.dat
To export a registry on device I use registry workshop.
With registry workshop you can export registry from your device straight to your pc.
If you are planning to realocate all the files to windows you need to edit the shortcuts to so they direct to windows and not program files for example.
The shortcuts you can open with a tekst editor.

Thanks guys - much appreciated.
The problem is that TomTom runs fine, its just that it screws up Manila. I will try and pull the cab to pieces as advised to make sure it is converting properly and also to see if I can spot anything that might impact Manila in the registry etc.
I dont suppose you have any thoughts on teh original two questions?

Not realy, but if the cab runs fine but your package isnt then there must be something wrong in the package isn't?
crazyC said:
I dont suppose you have any thoughts on teh original two questions?
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There is actually not much in the cab.
Using Wince cab Manager I can see no setup.dll
There are also no reg entries - nor can I find anything in the reg on the device that does anything other than list the install directory.
Looking at th files it installs, there are a couple of bluetooth files that can cause an error - odly it seems to not affect me when it is a cab but it must overwrite the windows ones when it is cooked in. The only thing I can think of is that it also has a phone.dll that presumably overwrites the one in the sys.
I will try cooking without this in my next build and see.
Unfortunately I am out of time as have recooked/flashed almost ten times trying to tie down this issue and then getting back to a stable base.
I have also 'broken' Arkswitch which was working on earlier builds. Don't think its related though.

crazyC said:
Thanks guys - much appreciated.
The problem is that TomTom runs fine, its just that it screws up Manila. I will try and pull the cab to pieces as advised to make sure it is converting properly and also to see if I can spot anything that might impact Manila in the registry etc.
I dont suppose you have any thoughts on teh original two questions?
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It's weird that it screws up manila; I don't use manila (or T-T, obviously), so can't help you there. I'm just guessing that you're missing a registry key that you need to get the package to work. Is there a tom-tom demo (not warez)? If you post a link, I'll take a look at the cab to see if I can make an ext from it, or figure out what's going on. Some cabs are just a *****, and you're better of doing a cab install. You should see the Redfly cab, it's sick, lol. It's one that has a zip file that does a secondary install. I hate it. I also hate Redfly, but that's another story.
I read somewhere that with some sip buttons, if you press the left half, it launches the keyboard, and if you press the right half, it launches the menu. I've never experienced it myself, and don't know which builds it affects or why it happens. Is this what's going on? I'm just guessing, since you say it eff's up half the time. I have no idea how to disable the connection message, but I wouldn't mind knowing how, either. It's annoying as crap.

What's your device memory left over?
I'm just thinking, maybe you could exclude TomTom from the taskmanager exclusive list.
Sorry one more idea, you are cooking for Rhodium right?
HD2 and Rhodium have a simulair bluetooth stack.
I remember on first HD2 roms there were some problems with TomTom and bluetooth on HD2.
Just a taught.
crazyC said:
There is actually not much in the cab.
Using Wince cab Manager I can see no setup.dll
There are also no reg entries - nor can I find anything in the reg on the device that does anything other than list the install directory.
Looking at th files it installs, there are a couple of bluetooth files that can cause an error - odly it seems to not affect me when it is a cab but it must overwrite the windows ones when it is cooked in. The only thing I can think of is that it also has a phone.dll that presumably overwrites the one in the sys.
I will try cooking without this in my next build and see.
Unfortunately I am out of time as have recooked/flashed almost ten times trying to tie down this issue and then getting back to a stable base.
I have also 'broken' Arkswitch which was working on earlier builds. Don't think its related though.
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Thanks both for your continued help.
Yes I am cooking for the Rhodium and am using the Rhodium Manila plus Cookie 1.6.1 so as to keep memory use in check. Ok I have added in the 1.8 HTC messaging but it doesn't cause a problem. Memory is about 40% free on first boot - am also using 23568 as the SYS base. I also use Ameba.
I think my Arkswitch issue is due to something else cooked in, but being honest I dont really use Arkswitch much and so am going to drop it next time I cook I think.
Farmer Ted - There is no issue with TomTom as regards Warez as far as I know - the program is fine - it is the maps that must be purchased and talking about getting round that is where the problems arise. The program itself is OK.
I might get one last chance to cook and flash tonight to check out my theory about the Phone.dll. If not I will post back and throw myself on your mercy, although as you say, it might be better to just live with the fact it will be a cab install. due to the way the files interact and the fact that the tomtom package works, I do think something is being overwritten in the cooking process and all I can see is that file.
The reason I have persisted with TomTom is that I have made an old style OEM package in the past from the cab with no problems (long lost kitchen).
With regards to the Bluetooth issues - I have sorted those now AFAIK.

RESULT! re TomTom - will post back after putting my little girl to bed.

OK - to summarise.
I ran TomTom through the cab importer within OsKitchen and it produced a package.
Although the cab had installed and run with no errors, cooking it in created 2 errors.
Firstly, there was a bluetooth message about bttray or something not being a valid application.
This is caused by two BT files in windows being overwritten by the TomTom ones. Simply renaming the two fiels to include the word OLD in the name sorted that. I will just remove them next time as I do not think they are necessary if the windows files are there.
The second issue was that Manila would not start. I believe this is due to a similar issue to the above, in that phone.dll was being overwritten. I renamed the file to PhoneOLD.dll and cooked in the package and now Manila starts.....
Still looking for answers to my first two questions though
(and yes its cos I keep hittingt he side of the button with my fat fingers that the keyboard selector comes up)

I'm not sure what's up with the keyboard, although I use Resco, so maybe you don't get then menu popup when you hit the wrong half. Have you tried killing SIPGT_app.exe? Maybe it won't pop up with that killed. If that's the case, then remove the bootlauncher key in your ezinput package. Killing it may not help, though.

I could not find that exe file to kill. The keyboard behavious is I believe as it is intended to work - just not how I want it. But are you saying Resco Keyboard fixes this?
However my final reflash last night seems to have gone a bit nuts. I am now getting all sorts of problems with apps not being able to run because they are unsigned etc or bits missing.
We are talking about stuff cooked in that has previously worked flawlessly.
Had some issues with my PC last night as well. I think I need to go back a step when I get home tonight and maybe rebuild the kitchen.

Time and kitchens have moved on a little, but as things are going well, I am back to my original 2 questions that continue to perplex me:
1. Is there a way of stopping the 'cannot connect' bubble from coming up, or even to make it automatically close after say a few seconds.
2. Is there a way of stopping the keyboard selector menu from popping up when the side of the keyboard icon is hit. I just want the qwerty option and do not want the menu to come up ever.
I have been able to make no headway at all with (1), - found mention of one cab somewhere but the link had expired - and have tried various things for (2) but with no success yet.
Anyone?
Cheers
PS- to follow up my previous posts yes the fixes I mentioned for Tom Tom work fine - it was the 3 files causing the issues.

In my old Kaiser roms i used the below reg key to disable connect notification,sorry i really dont remember if it disable also"cannot connect".
Code:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Notifications\{8ddf46e7-56ed-4750-9e58-afc6ce486d03}]
"Options"=dword:00000000
Disable Sip Menù is the same reg key that another guy posted here:
Code:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\HTC\ezsip]
"EnableSipMenu"=dword:00000000
I tried it on my HD2 before posting here and setting it to 0 it leave the menù where you can select keypad,compact qwerty,full qwerty and language,it is still present a little menù with the option and my guess is that this isnt removable.
crazyC said:
Time and kitchens have moved on a little, but as things are going well, I am back to my original 2 questions that continue to perplex me:
1. Is there a way of stopping the 'cannot connect' bubble from coming up, or even to make it automatically close after say a few seconds.
2. Is there a way of stopping the keyboard selector menu from popping up when the side of the keyboard icon is hit. I just want the qwerty option and do not want the menu to come up ever.
I have been able to make no headway at all with (1), - found mention of one cab somewhere but the link had expired - and have tried various things for (2) but with no success yet.
Anyone?
Cheers
PS- to follow up my previous posts yes the fixes I mentioned for Tom Tom work fine - it was the 3 files causing the issues.
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Cheers for that - I am concluding that the SIP issue I wil live with, and I already have that reg key set to zero for the connections issue, to no avail. I am experimenting with some other keys, but its really shooting in that dark, and as I cannot readily reporduce the notification, it will be a few days before I can even see any change.
Oh well. I will update if I get anywhere.

Ooooohhh, following some more digging, I MAY have an answer re the cannot connect bubble. I saw someone elses solution and that has actually led me to what could be far simpler.
I will try and cab it up later tonight for other to try. It is just a reg entry
EDIT - maybe I spoke too soon.
I am testing this by alternating between 3G and 2G on the comm manager - normally this will pull up the message. (Could someone confirm this as a valid test method).
I thought I had it solved, then the message appeared, but have done it another ten times with no hint of the message.
Some more testing to do......