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Pocket Plus and Xda II Lockups (1.66 ROM)

We have noted some strange locking up of our Xda II's over on the MTekk forums requiring a hard reset. We have a number of threads running at the moment but the main one is here.
I have been in touch with Spb about this and they inform me it is actually an HTC and MS issue. Below is their email response.
Hello David,
We do our best to fix this problem ASAP. We work hard with HTC and
Microsoft now on this problem.
But this problem occurs not only with Spb Pocket Plus but with other
programs too.
We have feedback from HTC and Microsoft about that (sorry, I cannot
disclosure more
details since it is information obtained from our partners).
So I am not sure we will be able to fix it in Spb Pocket Plus - probably
HTC will fix it in their ROM.
Spb Pocket Plus does not use any undocumented functions that can cause
such behavior.
Probably we will disable running Spb Pocket Plus on these devices at all
until HTC fixes this bug in ROM
Pocket Plus 1.x is not available online now but I can send it to you if you want via e-mail.
If you bought Pocket Plus 2.x and can't use it, you can always ask for refund.
If you have any questions, please, don't hesitate to contact me.
Best regards,
Margarita Bochkova
Customer Support Team
Spb Software House
Email: [email protected]
Web: www.spbsoftwarehouse.com
Phone: +7 812 324 49 44
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It appears as though this issue could also be happening with version 1 of Pocket Plus on the 1.66 ROM (and some 1.72 ROM's too).
Thought you guys might like to know. Generally I find Spb products to be good, but it appears as though Spb are being blamed for this issue. I think this email help point the finger in the right direction.
Dave

Hi djwhyte
This is some strange stuff as I've been running Pocket Plus 2.0 for a few months and have recently installed 2.1 (just for the hell of it I think its only a VGA update from what I can see)... but have not had any problems on my XDA II before, hear are my details of my device if this helps:
ROM Version: 1.66.00WWE
ROM Date: 02/20/04
Radio Version: 1.08.00
Protocol Version: 1337.18
ExtROM Version: 1.66.165
The only thing I could think that I MIGHT be doing diferent is that I do not use the today screen pluging (I use all other features like repeating allarms and task mannager!) At the begining I did use the today screen and do not recall any problems as well I've taken it off because my today screen was getting to cluttered with other software I am running.
Not sure if this is going to help you but have to tired installing Pocket Plus with NO other applications installed after a hard reset? It might be a conflict with other software or even a totaly other product causing the problem? Not sure hope this can help you!
Regards
Fudge!

Pocket Plus 2 is installed in my wife's XDA2 with 1.66rom. its almost 3 weeks now and so far no problem. my XDA2's rom is only 1.60.

Hey thanks for info guys.
I will have to try without the today screen pluggin and see if makes any difference.
Boybi, your wifes Xda II which is on the 1.66 ROM, does it have the today screen plugin enabled?
Dave

is the Today Plugin the one where you can put battery and memory bars, and put some icons? if yes, then its enabled.

i too am having problems with the spb pocket plus v2.1 using xda2 with 1.66WWE ROM version. i get hang ups and the unit would do a hard reset. good thing i always do a backup of the contacts and appointments!

aside from Pocket Plus, what other Today Plugins can you guys recommend?

I was wondering what was the lockup caused by. I uninstalled the SPB GPRS and SPB Pocket Plus and now it's ok. No more lockup. I had to hard reset, but couldn't initial find the problem until the trial expired, weird. I guess that's why I bought it.

I find GPRS monitor is OK!!
I have a feeling the Today plugin is the cause as I have had no such crashes since I installed it again with the today screen disabled. What part of it I don't know though.
Boybi, which icons, sliders does your wife have enabled on the plugin?

One thing to note on this, is that SPB update their software silently and don't tell ya about it.
So get the latest build of PocketPlus and try again.
Cheers

my wife's XDA2 just locked-up today! can't turn it on even using soft reset. so i think its really the Pocket Plus! now i disabled the today plugin.

Ooooh Sorry Boybi, I hope I didn't curse you but that sounds like the lockup.
I have been running sweetly for three days without the Today screen plugin for PP2. How long did your wife have the Today screen showing before it locked up? Days? Weeks?
Cheers,
Dave

Possible LOCKUP?
DJWHYTE,
im using pocket plus ver 2.1 on a 1.66 ROM XDA II, just installed it 24 hours ago, no problems so far.
All featured ITEMS enabled, Today Plug-in, File Explorer enhancements, Pocket IE enhancement, Looping Alarm, etc..
Im very disturbed by what I just read in this thread, although I have experienced 1 LOCKUP, it happened while SPB Pocket Plus was NOT YET installed.
Can anyone please advise HOW LONG was the average time FROM installation of pocket plus DID the LOCKUP occur? and what your POCKET PLUS version and ROM versions are?
Certainly would put most of us at ease.
Cheers

Re: Possible LOCKUP?
chameleon said:
DJWHYTE,
Can anyone please advise HOW LONG was the average time FROM installation of pocket plus DID the LOCKUP occur? and what your POCKET PLUS version and ROM versions are?
Certainly would put most of us at ease.
Cheers
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With my previous 1.66ITA it worked for about 3 months without troubles (PP 2.0 first and 2.1 later) .
After the upgrade to 1.72.04ITA no chance to install it anymore; it freezes and the only way out is hard resetting. :evil:
Spb team says that they are working on it... hope so, otherwise I will claim for my money back. :evil: :evil:
My experience up to now is that PP is white or black: it works or not, at all. In your case it works, so I would not worry too much... :roll:

Re: Possible LOCKUP?
dave said:
My experience up to now is that PP is white or black: it works or not, at all. In your case it works, so I would not worry too much... :roll:
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Good, now I can sleep better knowing my XDA 2 will still turn on tomorrow when I wake up. Thanks DAVE.
Any other observations out there?
I may DREAM better if there are, hehehe.

my wife's 1.66rom XDA2 runs with PP2.1 for 2 weeks without any problems until yesterday.

maybe other apps?
boybi,
pre,
maybe another app caused the lockup? you havent installed anything new in those two weeks? may i please know what your apps are?
mine are:
1. pocket plus 2.1
2. my calendar
3. pocket zen
4. flash player activeX
5. morphgear
6. calendar plus
7. pocket translator
8. pencil box
9. calc98 and aidem calc
10. betaplayer
11. SB check notifications.
12. vbirthday
just want to know for comparison AND app finger-pointing.
thanks.

I too have had the problem
Ever since I installed the Spb PocketPlus ver 1.x and onward I have had that problem. It occurs rarely but often enough to annoy me (1-2 times/month). It seems to make no difference if I disable the Today screen. I have removed it now. I don't have much other software on it, except for Destinator 3 and a painting program. I won't return to PocketPlus until the issue is solved.
Johan

sbp
The italian localized 2.1 will not work on the 1.72 ROM, to make it works you need to install the 2.0 and after it the 2.1.
No problems at all

Re: maybe other apps?
chameleon said:
boybi,
pre,
maybe another app caused the lockup? you havent installed anything new in those two weeks? may i please know what your apps are?
mine are:
1. pocket plus 2.1
2. my calendar
3. pocket zen
4. flash player activeX
5. morphgear
6. calendar plus
7. pocket translator
8. pencil box
9. calc98 and aidem calc
10. betaplayer
11. SB check notifications.
12. vbirthday
just want to know for comparison AND app finger-pointing.
thanks.
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ito lang mga nakainstall:
1. spb pocket plus 2.1
2. pocketzenphone
3. sprite backup 3.0
4. sprite pocketmon (today plugin disabled)
5. uBook
the memory card i have ordered for my wife's XDA2 just arrived that's why i haven't installed a lot of programs in her unit.

Jam application compatibility

I have IPDashboard, Agenda Fusion and Wisbar Advance 2 installed in my Jam. I'm having problems with my PDA not ringing(or vibrating) when in stand-by and need to do a soft reset to enable it again(ringing function). I missed several calls already and I decided to upgrade to 1.06 ROM. i installed the same set of apps and got the same problem. I did a hardreset and have not installed any of the said app and now my Jam works like it should be.
I'm just wondering if any of you are having the same issues that I have and what applications currently installed in your Jam.

WisBar Advance2 is known to have caused problems with Phone Edition devices.
The guy at Lakeridge is even kind enough to inform anyone about this in the middle of the front page on the wisbar download site:
"(Please note that this is not yet compatible with PocketPC Phone Devices)"

bamse said:
"(Please note that this is not yet compatible with PocketPC Phone Devices)"
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stupid me i missed that.. i've used it with my iMate and 6315 before but I dont remember having that problem
thanks!

I had the same problem with Wisbar.
In the Lakeridge forum there is a beta version that solves that problem.
Works for me.
(In the new beta there is also a working signal strength meter.)

i tried the beta.. so far so good. i just can't have a PDA without WA

task bar replacement for Magic Button
Does anyone know of a good task manager/closer that doesn't cause lockups and screen freezes?
I tried using magic button, but its buggy as hell, same with wis bar advance.
If I don't use any task manager, my jam is jamming. no soft reset or lock up issues.
Please help.
thanks

WA 2.0.14 beta works fine with my Jam(as of now). no lock ups or anything. i just cant find any task manager with feature set as WA thats why Im sticking with it(and great support too)

Re: task bar replacement for Magic Button
dnp_now said:
Does anyone know of a good task manager/closer that doesn't cause lockups and screen freezes?
I tried using magic button, but its buggy as hell, same with wis bar advance.
If I don't use any task manager, my jam is jamming. no soft reset or lock up issues.
Please help.
thanks
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Hi dnp_now,
I'm using vbar (can be found here: http://www.vieka.com/vbar.htm) as well as TillanoSofts SmallMenu (http://www.tillanosoft.com/ce/smenu.html) for switching between apps and closing them on my german MDA compact.
Both of them are running at the same time and are also linked to one hardware button by VITO ButtonMapper (free version for two actions per button is included in a Cebit-Software package available here: http://www.mobile2day.de/cebit/).
This combination is very practible, because I can start and close every program installed on my MDA using the hardware buttons and dont have to use the stylus:
One tap of the hardware button opens SmallMenu with which I can start the programs and switch between already opened apps, two taps on the same button opens vbar, with which I can close the programs (also those running in the background!).
So one-handed operation is possible without any problem. The only downer is that vbar cant' be used in landscape mode, i.e. better close it when switching to LS and reactivate it when you switch back to portrait mode again.
Hope this helps,
greets, BGK[/url]

I would suggest SPB PocketPlus. Very stable, and well worth the money.

jam keeps turning on when connected via activesync
Hello,
Does anyone know why my jam keeps turning on when its connected via activesync?
I put it on standby, then a few minute later it turns on, and try to sync with my desktop. I'd rather have it on standby most of the time.
thanks

Black screen!

My neo turns off after 3 minutes of not using it. Sometime when i want to turn it on it is blocked. Screen is black, led is flashing and helps only if i make soft reset. Why?
i have lvsw rom, radio rom 47, or is it maybe because of software?
thank you for your help

Do you have a screensaver or something installed?

I had the same problem with some other rom and SPB Pocket plus... without SPB pocket plus it was working fine...
I had to hard reset my device and re-install SPB pocket plus... after that, it was ok!

i dont have screensaver or spb pocket plus. Is it maybe because of program bateryStatus?

SPEEEED said:
i dont have screensaver or spb pocket plus. Is it maybe because of program bateryStatus?
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hm... you could try disabling BatteryStatus and observe if the problem is still there. There is a user reported a similar problem with the current "proof of concept".
ikarus

Spb 3, soft keys

hello,
I have a quick question, i have recently purchased the new spb mobile shell, but soon i discovered it does not have the cool feature spb v.2 had to change the soft keys... can some perhaps help me with this issue. My left soft key is no stuck on calander and my right spb home ( which is okay) but i dont use the calendar and would like to replace by a different soft key.

hey there,
not sure if that's exactly what you want, but with the "advanced config"-tool by schapman you can edit the softkeys anyway.
just google "advanced configuration tool v3.3"
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o really i already have that utility....
thank you

just check: menu>more settings>keymapping

thanks a lot, by the way spb mobile shell is look good so far. especially the lifestyle thing def worth a try...

your welcome!
i already checked the leaked version... quite amazing. can't wait to try out the offical release. hope all the bugs from the leaked version are already fixed.
the most anoying thing was that the lifestyle screen was not working correctly in landscape mode... did they fix that?

yea they did....its worth the buy... im doing his facebook intergration thing and its actully preety cool stuff

The spb 3 disables my panel button. The phone hangs. But the button works fine if i exit out of the shell.

MS 3.0 officially available
I only want to mention that SPB officially released Mobile Shell 3 today. I've downloaded the final trial version and they fixed the freeze problem when pressing the panel button. Everything works smoothly - .
greetinx from austria
gordon

How does it appear on when a call comes in? Is it the same windows bubble which comes, or has SPB got something for that?
A screenshot will be helpful...

you can download the NEW trial verison from SPB, the leaked version im not gonna lie i used it it was a little sloppy, but the new one works great... i mean its not like SE did a better job at creating a better interface.

SPB Mobile Shell is closing

Hi!
I installed the SPB Mobile Shell v3.5.3.Build.9885.
It's great, but it keeps closing and I don't know why.
I launch any program inside SPB, and after I close the program SPB is closed too.
If I put a widge on screen it closes SPB too.
Is there anyway to keep SPB open all the time?
I'm using rafyvitto's vannila lastest rom.
Thanks!

I had this problem too with the SPB MS 3.5.. I installed once and it closed..
I reinstalled and this issue was ok but it slowed down my phone and the screen
needed to be hard pussed to work and no smoothness..
I don't know what's going wrong. I use the latest original ROM.
Now I have unistalled it and look around for solutions..
It's a pitty because it's the best UI if someone dont want to flash another rom..

how to download spb mobile shell
hi, i'm new here and also i have a very new s200. i'd only like to know how to download this spb mobile shell, i found it very nice and cool. my phone is locked to operator, can still download it. do i have have to dowload it thru my phone or thru my computer,, i'm really a jerk whne we speak about thing regarding computers, downloadings etc; anyway thanks

Look inside SPB settings, I think there is a check box that lets you override the normal WinMo today screen. Something about "use SPB for today screen".
I found it, SPB mobile shell settings/system/ override "start" see if that helps.

Philippe_Raimo said:
I had this problem too with the SPB MS 3.5.. I installed once and it closed..
I reinstalled and this issue was ok but it slowed down my phone and the screen
needed to be hard pussed to work and no smoothness..
I don't know what's going wrong. I use the latest original ROM.
Now I have unistalled it and look around for solutions..
It's a pitty because it's the best UI if someone dont want to flash another rom..
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just asked:
You turned off the "acer home" in Today settings?

olsching said:
just asked:
You turned off the "acer home" in Today settings?
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not only the "Acer home" but everything else was closed too!!
I've tried a "clean" version of the SPB and with "extras"..
The ram consumtion was dissapointing with everything.. I don't know, it's maybe in my device the problem..

I found the same problem too using official rom 3.003c

My problem was solved by disabling today screen like olsching told.
Start --> Settings --> Today
Go to Item (on botton)
And Disable everything.