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Hey all,
Great forum! Just a quick question. I have exams at the moment, and the last thing I want is my phone going off in the middle of them (which could cost me my degree). I was wondering if there is a way to turn off the device, like a complete shutdown (but not as far as a hard reset) so that the phone is off, and it won't wake up if I do something stupid like leave an alarm set? I'm sure it must be possible, just doesnt seem too obvious to me.
I could turn off the radio, then hit the power button to put it to standby, but I'm assuming it's still possible to wake from standby with alarms (or maybe other things).
Hope this isn't too much of an annoying stupid question.
i think that if you put both sound levels to OFF, put your phone in flight mode, you'll be safe.
Timmeh said:
Hey all,
Great forum! Just a quick question. I have exams at the moment, and the last thing I want is my phone going off in the middle of them (which could cost me my degree). I was wondering if there is a way to turn off the device, like a complete shutdown (but not as far as a hard reset) so that the phone is off, and it won't wake up if I do something stupid like leave an alarm set? I'm sure it must be possible, just doesnt seem too obvious to me.
I could turn off the radio, then hit the power button to put it to standby, but I'm assuming it's still possible to wake from standby with alarms (or maybe other things).
Hope this isn't too much of an annoying stupid question.
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If you check the forum for a thread called PzP you can set modes that switch automatically and within those modes you can set what happens with notifications (such as incoming calls\reminders).
i.e. if you set that between 8am - 12pm you have exams and that is set to mode display only then set incoming calls and reminders to only display then that is all that would happen.
Thats nice. I will defenately look at that as well.
I sent 5 euros his way, I look forward to downloading it. :lol:
Anyone know how to change the in-call screen timeout? I think it's like 5 seconds right now. Maybe like 10 or 15 seconds would be a little more practical.
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Anyone know how to change the in-call screen timeout? I think it's like 5 seconds right now. Maybe like 10 or 15 seconds would be a little more practical.
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Not sure but it times out so you can put it up to your face while your talking on it without the touch screen freaking out on us so i sincerely doubt there is any way to change it.
stats555 said:
Not sure but it times out so you can put it up to your face while your talking on it without the touch screen freaking out on us so i sincerely doubt there is any way to change it.
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yeah but trying to navigate voicemail is a PITA... I did find the button that keeps the thing "live/on" while plugged into power... that at least is nice.
--M
daveknights said:
Anyone know how to change the in-call screen timeout? I think it's like 5 seconds right now. Maybe like 10 or 15 seconds would be a little more practical.
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I'm not having this problem at all so I wasn't sure what people were referring to. However, I discovered that my sister was having the same problem described here and on other forums. Her phone would timeout within a second or two and it was extremely annoying to her. So off I went trying to help her.
Short Answer: Reboot the phone via the red/power key.
Long Answer: After several hours of troubleshooting with no luck I had her reboot the phone by holding down the red key and choosing to "Power off". Then hold the red key again to turn on the phone. After that it seems the problem went away. I've had her do other things but I'm not sure it was relavent so I'll stop here and see if this helps anyone else.
Huh? This is not a bug that you can simply do away with. The phone is supposed to time out.
On the other hand, I would like the option to adjust the timeout
Screen Backlight Timeout during a call
Is there a way to adjust the screen backlight timeout during a phone call? My timeout is set for 2 minutes, but during a call the screen shuts off so fast it does not let me dial extensions etc, and then pressing menu to light up, then menu to unlock then menu to bring up the keyboard, its kind of annoying. I just measured the time, its about 10 seconds.
This question is NOT ABOUT: Screen/Setting/Sound&Display/ScreenTimeout (that one has its own issues too, but this thread is specific to one issue)
Lol I have the same prob when I do phone banking. By the time I've pressed menu
Then flicked the dial buttons back up iam to late to press the button and have to start
Over again. Its really pissing me off now lol.
Adam
Amen... hopefully one of the developers can make this adjustable
Yes, it's one of my main gripes about the phone function.
They really should have made it adjustable independently of the standard timeout time. Because even voicemail prompts are a pain in the rear.
Power Manager
You can pick up the Power Manager application off of the Andoird marketplace. It allows you to modify the amount of time the screen is on during a phone call.
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You can pick up the Power Manager application off of the Andoird marketplace. It allows you to modify the amount of time the screen is on during a phone call.
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Really? Must be the new version I don't have. I have the first version and it lacks that function.
Thanks for the tip.
I know this thread is a bit old, but I'm having this problem and its really annoying!
I have the touch pro, and the display timeout while talking is like 5 seconds, and then I have to press that top button to get the screen to come back on, and I have to press it like 3 times till it comes back up. Really annoying when I'm pressing numbers with an automated system like voicemail.
Download power manager from the app store. allows you to change in-call time out and a truck load of other things.
If you want to find it on the net here - http://www.cyrket.com/asset/-5688572614148254173
That was driving me crazy - I changed mine to 30 seconds for in call.
Mods, please merge these two threads:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=458981
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=439369
Hi all.
I have this annoying problem with my Blackstone.
When the screen turns off everything closes down. It's really annoying if i'm using messenger or something and not look on it for 2 min it closes messenger down.
I know i can choose in battery setting not to turn off the unit if it's not used for a while, but i still like that the screen is turned off, but still working.
Can this be done??
Dipper60 said:
Hi all.
I have this annoying problem with my Blackstone.
When the screen turns off everything closes down. It's really annoying if i'm using messenger or something and not look on it for 2 min it closes messenger down.
I know i can choose in battery setting not to turn off the unit if it's not used for a while, but i still like that the screen is turned off, but still working.
Can this be done??
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Yes it can.
Go to Start/Settings/System/Power/Advanced and you can select the screen or backlight to turn off if device is not used for x mins on either battery or external power
Fallen Spartan said:
Yes it can.
Go to Start/Settings/System/Power/Advanced and you can select the screen or backlight to turn off if device is not used for x mins on either battery or external power
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Yeah i know, but it only turn the lights down, not turn the screen off. It's only if i choose to turn off the device the screen turns off.
I use gyrator to set up an event that turns the screen off without turning the device off when the stylus is inserted (you can modify the default gyrator behaviour which is to lock the screen when the stylus is inserted). If you want to be fancy you could set it up to turn the screen off if the phone is turned face down, you don't really need the screen on then anyway unless you're in the habit of looking at your phone above your face while lying on your back, or trying to use it while doing acrobatics in an stunt plane.
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I use gyrator to set up an event that turns the screen off without turning the device off when the stylus is inserted (you can modify the default gyrator behaviour which is to lock the screen when the stylus is inserted). If you want to be fancy you could set it up to turn the screen off if the phone is turned face down, you don't really need the screen on then anyway unless you're in the habit of looking at your phone above your face while lying on your back, or trying to use it while doing acrobatics in an stunt plane.
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Well i can't get it to work :-/
What i'm looking for is also a thing so the device isn't turned off when i push the turn on/turn off button on the top. I want to use this button to turn off the screen and not close down the programs.
This is what i'm looking for and i hope someone can help me
Dipper60 said:
Well i can't get it to work :-/
What i'm looking for is also a thing so the device isn't turned off when i push the turn on/turn off button on the top. I want to use this button to turn off the screen and not close down the programs.
This is what i'm looking for and i hope someone can help me
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Just tried the screen off when phone is face down and it doesn't seem to be working for me either for some reason. But the stylus in event is working fine, just pop the stylus out and put it back in again and the screen goes completely off without killing the processes in the background (can still explore phone with active sync). I wouldn't want to mess with the power button as that is really useful to provide a proper device suspend when I want it.
I have a similar problem but with the GPS.
I have raised the question here, on some other forums and directly to HTC.
From HTC I got the answer that it is done by design to minimize battery drain and that they would have many angry costumers complaining about low battery life.
The only solution I know of so far is to use a 3rd party app.
I use "screenoff" and everytime I use the GPS I go to advanced-power and uncheck all the boxes.
When I'm done using the GPS I check the boxes again, otherwise I'll have to remember to turn the screen off manually everytime in "normal" usage of the phone.
I think it's sad though on such an expensive device not to have the option to run programs and hardware in sleep mode.
I'd rather find a solution where I can push the power button as usual and where I can have the boxes in advanced-power checked all the time.
I managed to get gyrator to turn the screen off by flipping face down, just needed to put the screen off command before all the rotation disable commands. Now if I want to disable the screen I just have to flip it face down for a second or so.
Thx for all your help.
But i found out that it's not only when the screen turns off everything closes. If i just leave it on home screen for like 2 min. everything also closes down.
I've heard from another forum that it's something HTC has decided to do to keep on the battery....
I don't know if there is anything to do here then??
Go to the start button, select settings, select system , scroll down and select power then the advanced tab and UNTICK Turn off device if not used for 2mins for both external and battery power.
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Go to the start button, select settings, select system , scroll down and select power then the advanced tab and UNTICK Turn off device if not used for 2mins for both external and battery power.
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Done that... Still closes everything after around 2. min....
Strange, doesn't do that on mine.
shuflie said:
Strange, doesn't do that on mine.
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I had a similar problem and only thing which resolved it was a hard reset!
I'm just testing it again to make sure. Have a track playing in the HTC music app and I'm signed in to messenger. Screen is off and I'm waiting for 3 mins to make sure.
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I had a similar problem and only thing which resolved it was a hard reset!
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That was going to be my next suggestion, really doesn't sound like normal operation to me. So hardreset and install one app at a time until you find out what is messing things up for you. 3 mins are up and track is still playing and I'm still signed in to messenger.
Thanks to a guy called Dawsonas I just found a program called Pocketshield.
It has an application permission feature:
"When this app is running override power off: just do screen off" (use this option for music players, GPS apps, loggers, IM, or any app that needs the device to stay awake). This setting will take effect either when "Power off on lock" or "Power off after 20 seconds" options are enabled.
Check it out
http://pocketshield.netserver01.com/
Magster said:
Thanks to a guy called Dawsonas I just found a program called Pocketshield.
It has an application permission feature:
"When this app is running override power off: just do screen off" (use this option for music players, GPS apps, loggers, IM, or any app that needs the device to stay awake). This setting will take effect either when "Power off on lock" or "Power off after 20 seconds" options are enabled.
Check it out
http://pocketshield.netserver01.com/
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I will try that
But do you guys think it could be some settings in the ROM? Should i try another one or what do i do when you say it isn't normal for the phone?
Please bear with me as this may be a dumb newbie question. I searched every post on the Imagio section here and at PPC and was unable to find an answer.
Got the Imagio for my wife and she's loving it (we had Storms previously- bad, bad mojo). She uses Groovefish to stream music and the stock dimmer setting will shut down the player after the time limit is reached. No problem, right? Changed the setting to stop this (never auto shut down on battery power).
Now, the screen will dim somewhat when left idle, but never shuts down all the way. It's dim but still active. She's been having to change the setting every time in order to not kill the battery.
Should the screen power down all the way while leaving the device active (like hitting the "shut off screen option" after holding the end button)? If not, is there a way to do this?
Thanks for any insight you may be able to provide. I've done nothing but Blackberries for years and this is my first real foray into WinMo.
Try to check the power settings. Go to the Settings Tab and push All settings at the bottom. From there go to System > Power > then click the Advanced tab. That should have settings to turn off the screen after 1 min or 30 seconds.
Thanks for the quick reply. I probably should have been a bit more clear.
It is in that menu that I have been manipulating the settings. There are two options for battery power. There is one to "turn off backlight" after x amount of time, the other is to "turn off device". With backlight set to 30 (or whatever) and device disabled, the screen never completely goes off.
It functions properly with "turn device off" enabled, but interrupts Groovefish when playing. This does not interfere with the native TF3D media player. While its not the end of the world if she ends up having to change that setting to use the program, it would be nice to be able to disable the screen with a partial shutdown (and extra battery drain when using that application).
Cheers!
Thats interesting, seems like its the program thats doing that. I have Opera, FM radio, email client, etc. running all day without it crashing. I have seen this before with Internet Explorer where i would leave it running connected to a website. then when i check back IE is gone and i have to start it again. By any chances is this a website or an installable app that you are using?
Groovefish is a streaming music client that is installed on the device
BTW, it is incredibly cool if you don't have it yet. Stream just about any song you want for free (legally).
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=88505
I use g-trigger to shake my phone to turn off the display works great! Just disable the shake to turn it back on.
I'll give it a shot and see if the application stays running. Many thanks!
Actually I think backlight off is happening when it "dims". You need the screen to go off, not just the backlight. Try using xdaShutdown to go into Lightsout mode and see if that works for you. The program can be found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=544016
Skins in the same thread as well.
so I put the dimming to be after 30 seconds, which works.
however I put it to shutdown the scree after one minutes, however it stays on forever, unless I physically press the hang up key, the screen will be on all the time.
the other question I have.
2- When I search on google, and press on one of the results in opera it takes me to the definition page, rather than the actual result that I wanted
3- is there a fix for LED notification, I installed the cab to fix that, but it didnt make a difference.
4- the pink spot at the middle, I searched around but didnt see any real solution
can anyone help please
regards
While I can't offer any help, I can feel your pain! I too am experiencing this f**ing event! I placed in my pocket before boarding for a 6 hour flight yesterday and found it still powered on when the flight had ended. I had just enough power to make and receive a call! Great.
I've double/triple checked my settings after this same thing happened to me previously! WTF!
edved.
i had the same problem what you need to do is to change the screen light setting in the settings menu
moneysaver05 said:
i had the same problem what you need to do is to change the screen light setting in the settings menu
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Ok. I'll try your suggestion, but please tell me what the screen light setting should be?
Thanks.
just go to the backlight settings, tap ok and it seems to be fixed..
(but offcourse check if is set to turn off after a minute or whatever your needs are)
I experienced this yesterday.. just like in normal windows, some functions just stop working with no particulair reason.. I don't really worry about it.. probably fixed in the next rom.. same sometimes happens with the screen lock, sometimes it's gone.. also after reboot, althought I find it more convient that way, it can be fixed by locking the device manually.. this does proof we can disable the device lock somewhere, I really don't need it in the case I use, the power button is enough..
good tip to always push the power button before putting the device away.. saves a lot of battery too then to wait for the minute before it powers of by itself.. the large screen is the battery's biggest consumer.. this way you also don't have to trust the automatic power off.
problem is pushing the power is not enough.
because if there were any even that woke the phone up, it will never shut down the screen unless you saw it, and do it manually
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problem is pushing the power is not enough.
because if there were any even that woke the phone up, it will never shut down the screen unless you saw it, and do it manually
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no the automatic power down is seperate from the screen lock, but for some reason they connected it with the automatic power down and left the options to choose out.