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Best option for car hands free and sat nav? (With the M1000)

I Have the M1000 and am looking at all the option for hands free and Sat nav.
I have been eying up the Bluetooth Parrot CK3300 but i see some people have been having problems with it and the M1000/XDA2.
What about if i were to go for the CK3100 and a cable or BT connected tomtom kit, would this be better?
Any thought are welcome.

I have just installed a parott ck3300 and it works perfectly with CoPilot. Because of the MS bluetooth stack you don't get full functionality of the phone as only headset profile is allowed but it does work well; I prefer this set up as I always have a gps fix and the unit will never need recharging - I'm very pleased with it!!

Thanks, so you have the copilot software and using the GPS receiver on the CK3300, rather that a wired gps receiver?

Yeap; it all works really well; I run CoPilot Live with the built in BT receiver of the CK3300; I also use GPRS of the XDA 2 to update via the live connection and can receive/make phone calls all with the one car kit!!

Fantastic, it looks like i will be getting me the 3300 then

Best setup for using both a carkit and GPS Nvigation?!

I am soon to buy the Magician in one of it's many forms. However noe thing i have been woundering is how am i am going to achieve the in-car setup i desire. Basically I need both a carkit (conversation through car stereo speakers etc) and i also want to run GPS navigation on the Magician. First of all is this possible? What happens if i am using the GPS and i recieve a call? Also what hardware are people using to achieve this as i assume i can't use both a bluetooth carkit and a bluetooth GPS reciever?! any hlp is greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Tom

Hi Tom,
I've got an iMate Jam & recently installed a Parrot BTluetooth CK3300 GPS Car Kit into my 1999 RAV4. The installation was pretty straight forward for cars with ISO connection, simply put in the mic, GPS ant & control display, plug into the car harness & HiFi & off you go. The GPS part of the kit is simply & effective, I use Tom Tom Navigator 5 & it's pretty faultless, obtaining a fix in seconds. Here's the bad part, the call quality through the kit using the Jam is AWFUL. Making and receiving calls is accompanied by a loud, high pitched warbling sound which eventually subsides, but is replaced by so much interference that the call is unworkable. I know it's not the kit because my wife's SE T68i works flawlessly. Everything else about the setup works perfectly (pairing muting, upgrading via BT etc etc). This a MAJOR problem which I have sent on to Parrot & am waiting for a reply. I understand they are pretty good at customer enquiries and expect them to come back to me pretty soon. I'll post again when I hear something. Despite all the bad press the Jam gets I think it's the best one I've owned so far (I'm on my 5th) and with the right software is excellent, but the choice of car kit is essential, until these problems are ironed out I wouldn't recommend using the PDA with a BT carkit.

Apart from the poor audio, how does it work when you are being navigated by TomTom and you receive a call? Does TomTom stop talking to you? Does the display show who's calling and then go back to tomtom display etc?

Hi there,
I have a MDA compact with now the QTEK 1.12 ROM, I have a bluetooth GPS Fortuna Clip-on and a Mr Handsfree Genius Bluetooth Carkit and I love it.
As soon as I start my car, there is a bluetooth connection to the carkit and the sound quality is excellent. You can make a call without getting the MDA out of your pocket, just push the button. The only issue is voice dialing, but that is a common problem for the MDA.
Also it makes a bluetooth connection to the GPS and Tomtom works fine. The only minus is that Tomtom doesn't use the carkit speaker, but, since the speaker of the MDA is loud enough, that is no issue. There is no supply with this bluetooth carkit, so I bought a 12 --> 5 Volt converter for the MDA.
I really love this combination. The best thing, that happened to me.
Andre

Hi there,
I have a MDA compact with now the QTEK 1.12 ROM, I have a bluetooth GPS Fortuna Clip-on and a Mr Handsfree Genius Bluetooth Carkit and I love it.
As soon as I start my car, there is a bluetooth connection to the carkit and the sound quality is excellent. You can make a call without getting the MDA out of your pocket, just push the button. The only issue is voice dialing, but that is a common problem for the MDA.
Also it makes a bluetooth connection to the GPS and Tomtom works fine. The only minus is that Tomtom doesn't use the carkit speaker, but, since the speaker of the MDA is loud enough, that is no issue. There is no supply with this bluetooth carkit, so I bought a 12 --> 5 Volt converter for the MDA.
I really love this combination. The best thing, that happened to me.
Andre

so it is possible then to have two bluetooth connections running at the same time? ie. i can use a bluetooth GPS reciever such as the one that is supplied with tom tom and also use any bluetooth carkit at the same time? and this will not cause any problems even if i am making a call and have the GPS running?! If so then i will probably just buy the Tom Tom 5 bluetooth kit and get something like a parrot CK3000? would this setup work?
thanks for everyones help,
Tom

It should work. Mine does. See above. Bluetooth GPS uses a serial profile, bluetooth headset uses a headset profile. No problem to use them both at the same time.
Andre

I used my Jam as phone, mp3 player and GPS all at the same time.
1. MP3 thru my car's aux input
2. GPS thru aux input:
hardware: Tomtom BT receiver
Software: Routis 2, TomTom USA 2004 (can open both if U use GPSGate)
3. Phone thru BT headset or aux input
To answer yr question:
Since I can use both BT GPS and BT headset together. I don't think it's a problem for both BT carkit and BT GPS to works.
Phone call always get highest prioity, all other apps (GPS software, mp3 player) will be mute until U finished yr call.
Phone call is not a problem (see above) but dialing is a big trouble since no voice calling built-in. Third partner software like intellidialer and voice commander (from MS or Cyberon) helps a bit

Ive also got my jam working fine incar. I use a socket bluetooth gps unit http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=119717 with tomtom 5 then I have a SE HBH-600 Akono Bluetooth Headset for calls both work together! When I have a incoming call it mutes tomtom and displays the normal caller id app on top, answering the call (via the green hardware button) results in my jam going to the phone app totally and leaving tomtom minimized in the background. As soon as the call ends tomtom jumps back to the foreground, it all works very well in my opinion. Ive also assigned the camera button to switch me back to the today screen so I can launch any app (with tomtom still running in the background) via a icon.

Bluetooth: Handsfree AND tomtom?

Nobody in my office seems to know the answer to this, and i don't want to shell out £300 to find out...
I use a bluetooth handfree kit. if i buy and install tomtom with a bluetooth GPS, will they both work at the same time?
it's no use if i need to choose whether to use phone or gps before i drive somewhere!! what if i choose gps and then get a call?
thanks in advance
oh wait also.... is there even an option to have a wired GPS with the wizard? i assume not.

You can use your GPS and carkit function at the same time!
When you get a phonecall TomTom will go on mute and you can answer the phone.
I use a carkit and my tomtom together every day...

Thank you very much for the reply. That means i can happily drop some cash on tom tom etc without feeling ripped off.
Thanks

I confirm, currently using TomTom 5.21 with BT339 bluetooth GPS in a Toyota Prius with built-in bluetooth handsfree. It works really well.

it even mutes your tomtom while your on the phone

I use the Wizard with TTN 5.21 and a Nokia BT carkit. I also used it with my Bt headset.
All working very well. Also MS VoiceCommand (see appropiate thread for specific info on this)

I have a TomTom One but this is linked to my qtec 9100 by Bluetooth to download the traffic updates by GPRS. I have just purchased the Parrot hand free kit which will link to the 9100 also by bluetooth. Will this set work :? i.e. two devices on bluetooth at the same time (The traffic updates every 10-15 minutes)

Performance with external GPS unit

How is the GPS performance of the Trinity when used with an external GPS unit connected via bluetooth? I would like to use the Trinity as a guidance device with software such as TomTom6 while walking. Does GPS reception suffer if the GPS unit is kept in a jacket pocket?

GPS is excellent with HOLUX GPS Slim 236
HI,
I use a Holux GPS Slim 236 BT Module in the compartment inside the passenger side so not fully exposed and it is perfect; in addition if somebody else is driving I kick off my music on the Trinity in the background i.e Windows Media Player or Pocket Player and this shares the BT bandwidth onthe Trinity with GPS unit to stream to BT headphones with no skips, I can run this in background while they still use TOM TOM in front.
Hope this answers your questions.

Thanks, yes it does. If GPS reception does not suffer while in the internal compartment of a car it surely will not when in a jacket pocket, while walking outside.

I also use my Trinity in my car with a external BT GPS (Altina’s GBT708, simular with Holux) and TomTom Navigator 6. Everything works very fine. BUT when i tested it with the GPS-unit kept in my jacket pocket the GPS recieving sometimes was not god enaugh.

sirfIII gps units have high sensitivity so problems faced with older BT GPS units are solved. I have my globalsat GPS in the glovebox of my car with documents, CD's etc on top as well (its a mess) and I still receive a great signal. I even receive a signal in some areas of my house.
cant go wrong with a sirfIII

jasjamming said:
sirfIII gps units have high sensitivity so problems faced with older BT GPS units are solved. I have my globalsat GPS in the glovebox of my car with documents, CD's etc on top as well (its a mess) and I still receive a great signal. I even receive a signal in some areas of my house.
cant go wrong with a sirfIII
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Is the Globalsat the BT-359? That is the one I was interested to pair with the Trinity.

I've Qstarz 810 32 Sat receiver and work very well with at least 30 Hour stand-by.
Very cheap and the signal is perfect.

Problem with GPS bluetooth unit, do I have to pair with it each time?

I never used bluetooth GPS device so what I found so far with IOgear GPS receiver is strange.
Whenever I switch on my Wizard and GPS device within a range, I'm prompted to establish pair with it (even though I already done it before), then I have to manually setup outgoing COM port in Bluetooth manager and only after that mapping software can see GPS device.
I have to do each time I switch off and on GPS bluetooth receiver, is it expected or something is broken with my Wizard OS or GPS receiver?
I use WM6.