Bluetooth: Handsfree AND tomtom? - 8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General

Nobody in my office seems to know the answer to this, and i don't want to shell out £300 to find out...
I use a bluetooth handfree kit. if i buy and install tomtom with a bluetooth GPS, will they both work at the same time?
it's no use if i need to choose whether to use phone or gps before i drive somewhere!! what if i choose gps and then get a call?
thanks in advance
oh wait also.... is there even an option to have a wired GPS with the wizard? i assume not.

You can use your GPS and carkit function at the same time!
When you get a phonecall TomTom will go on mute and you can answer the phone.
I use a carkit and my tomtom together every day...

Thank you very much for the reply. That means i can happily drop some cash on tom tom etc without feeling ripped off.
Thanks

I confirm, currently using TomTom 5.21 with BT339 bluetooth GPS in a Toyota Prius with built-in bluetooth handsfree. It works really well.

it even mutes your tomtom while your on the phone

I use the Wizard with TTN 5.21 and a Nokia BT carkit. I also used it with my Bt headset.
All working very well. Also MS VoiceCommand (see appropiate thread for specific info on this)

I have a TomTom One but this is linked to my qtec 9100 by Bluetooth to download the traffic updates by GPRS. I have just purchased the Parrot hand free kit which will link to the 9100 also by bluetooth. Will this set work :? i.e. two devices on bluetooth at the same time (The traffic updates every 10-15 minutes)

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Best option for car hands free and sat nav? (With the M1000)

I Have the M1000 and am looking at all the option for hands free and Sat nav.
I have been eying up the Bluetooth Parrot CK3300 but i see some people have been having problems with it and the M1000/XDA2.
What about if i were to go for the CK3100 and a cable or BT connected tomtom kit, would this be better?
Any thought are welcome.
I have just installed a parott ck3300 and it works perfectly with CoPilot. Because of the MS bluetooth stack you don't get full functionality of the phone as only headset profile is allowed but it does work well; I prefer this set up as I always have a gps fix and the unit will never need recharging - I'm very pleased with it!!
Thanks, so you have the copilot software and using the GPS receiver on the CK3300, rather that a wired gps receiver?
Yeap; it all works really well; I run CoPilot Live with the built in BT receiver of the CK3300; I also use GPRS of the XDA 2 to update via the live connection and can receive/make phone calls all with the one car kit!!
Fantastic, it looks like i will be getting me the 3300 then

Can XDA 11i work with both Tom Tom & bluetooth speakerph

I bought an O2 XDA11i because of voice activation so I can make hands free calls when I am on the road and also because it is also able to operate as a Sat Nav device. I bought a bluetooth Jabra SP100 speakerphone because the speaker on the XDA was not loud enough in the car. I then bought a Fortuna GPS bluetooth receiver and loaded Tom Tom Navigator 3. As soon as Tom Tom software was loaded I could no longer pair up with the speakerphone or any other bluetooth headset. I took it to the O2 local shop who were helpful but could not resolve the problem. They tried to contact Tom Tom who indicated that once their software once loaded the XDA could not pair up with another bluetooth device.
Can someone tell me if they know a way around this problem or if there is another brand of Sat Nav software that will not give me this problem?
I only need the XDA for Sat Nav and voice calls in the car and have spent about 2 months trying to speak to an expert. If you can help it will be a big help.
Thanks.
I am using Tomtom navigator 2 USA along with a jabra bluetooth headset on my XDAIIi and they both work very good simultaneously. I can talk through the headset and still connected to the gps. I think the problem is that you are using the same COM ports for both the speakerphone and the sat nav so that only one can be used at a time. Try pairing hte speackerphone first from the bluetooth manager " add Handsfree/headset setup" then pair the tomtom and choose COM 6 from the gps menu of tomtom software.
regards,
Bluetooth
Mine doesn't work if I connect both devices the bluetooth headset continually annouces itself and asks for a pin!!
use tomtom gps 2.06 for tomtom3 ont the 2i that should slove the problem ive got probs running tt3 with a bt headset and gps

Best setup for using both a carkit and GPS Nvigation?!

I am soon to buy the Magician in one of it's many forms. However noe thing i have been woundering is how am i am going to achieve the in-car setup i desire. Basically I need both a carkit (conversation through car stereo speakers etc) and i also want to run GPS navigation on the Magician. First of all is this possible? What happens if i am using the GPS and i recieve a call? Also what hardware are people using to achieve this as i assume i can't use both a bluetooth carkit and a bluetooth GPS reciever?! any hlp is greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Tom
Hi Tom,
I've got an iMate Jam & recently installed a Parrot BTluetooth CK3300 GPS Car Kit into my 1999 RAV4. The installation was pretty straight forward for cars with ISO connection, simply put in the mic, GPS ant & control display, plug into the car harness & HiFi & off you go. The GPS part of the kit is simply & effective, I use Tom Tom Navigator 5 & it's pretty faultless, obtaining a fix in seconds. Here's the bad part, the call quality through the kit using the Jam is AWFUL. Making and receiving calls is accompanied by a loud, high pitched warbling sound which eventually subsides, but is replaced by so much interference that the call is unworkable. I know it's not the kit because my wife's SE T68i works flawlessly. Everything else about the setup works perfectly (pairing muting, upgrading via BT etc etc). This a MAJOR problem which I have sent on to Parrot & am waiting for a reply. I understand they are pretty good at customer enquiries and expect them to come back to me pretty soon. I'll post again when I hear something. Despite all the bad press the Jam gets I think it's the best one I've owned so far (I'm on my 5th) and with the right software is excellent, but the choice of car kit is essential, until these problems are ironed out I wouldn't recommend using the PDA with a BT carkit.
Apart from the poor audio, how does it work when you are being navigated by TomTom and you receive a call? Does TomTom stop talking to you? Does the display show who's calling and then go back to tomtom display etc?
Hi there,
I have a MDA compact with now the QTEK 1.12 ROM, I have a bluetooth GPS Fortuna Clip-on and a Mr Handsfree Genius Bluetooth Carkit and I love it.
As soon as I start my car, there is a bluetooth connection to the carkit and the sound quality is excellent. You can make a call without getting the MDA out of your pocket, just push the button. The only issue is voice dialing, but that is a common problem for the MDA.
Also it makes a bluetooth connection to the GPS and Tomtom works fine. The only minus is that Tomtom doesn't use the carkit speaker, but, since the speaker of the MDA is loud enough, that is no issue. There is no supply with this bluetooth carkit, so I bought a 12 --> 5 Volt converter for the MDA.
I really love this combination. The best thing, that happened to me.
Andre
Hi there,
I have a MDA compact with now the QTEK 1.12 ROM, I have a bluetooth GPS Fortuna Clip-on and a Mr Handsfree Genius Bluetooth Carkit and I love it.
As soon as I start my car, there is a bluetooth connection to the carkit and the sound quality is excellent. You can make a call without getting the MDA out of your pocket, just push the button. The only issue is voice dialing, but that is a common problem for the MDA.
Also it makes a bluetooth connection to the GPS and Tomtom works fine. The only minus is that Tomtom doesn't use the carkit speaker, but, since the speaker of the MDA is loud enough, that is no issue. There is no supply with this bluetooth carkit, so I bought a 12 --> 5 Volt converter for the MDA.
I really love this combination. The best thing, that happened to me.
Andre
so it is possible then to have two bluetooth connections running at the same time? ie. i can use a bluetooth GPS reciever such as the one that is supplied with tom tom and also use any bluetooth carkit at the same time? and this will not cause any problems even if i am making a call and have the GPS running?! If so then i will probably just buy the Tom Tom 5 bluetooth kit and get something like a parrot CK3000? would this setup work?
thanks for everyones help,
Tom
It should work. Mine does. See above. Bluetooth GPS uses a serial profile, bluetooth headset uses a headset profile. No problem to use them both at the same time.
Andre
I used my Jam as phone, mp3 player and GPS all at the same time.
1. MP3 thru my car's aux input
2. GPS thru aux input:
hardware: Tomtom BT receiver
Software: Routis 2, TomTom USA 2004 (can open both if U use GPSGate)
3. Phone thru BT headset or aux input
To answer yr question:
Since I can use both BT GPS and BT headset together. I don't think it's a problem for both BT carkit and BT GPS to works.
Phone call always get highest prioity, all other apps (GPS software, mp3 player) will be mute until U finished yr call.
Phone call is not a problem (see above) but dialing is a big trouble since no voice calling built-in. Third partner software like intellidialer and voice commander (from MS or Cyberon) helps a bit
Ive also got my jam working fine incar. I use a socket bluetooth gps unit http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=119717 with tomtom 5 then I have a SE HBH-600 Akono Bluetooth Headset for calls both work together! When I have a incoming call it mutes tomtom and displays the normal caller id app on top, answering the call (via the green hardware button) results in my jam going to the phone app totally and leaving tomtom minimized in the background. As soon as the call ends tomtom jumps back to the foreground, it all works very well in my opinion. Ive also assigned the camera button to switch me back to the today screen so I can launch any app (with tomtom still running in the background) via a icon.

Bluetooth headset and GPS

Hi all,
Just a quick (and probably stupid) question. I have the O2 mini and find the loudspeaker rather poor. When using the GPS it is often hard to hear the instructions. Is it possible to send the audio to a bluetooth headset, or even a bluetooth car kit.
I am new to all this so any help would be greatly appreciated.
Adam
Adam,
if you are connecting the GPS via BT, it is not possible in the first place to connect a second device in parallel. Unfortunately you can have just one BT connection at a time.
Even with a cable connected GPS it won't work, because it is not possible to use the BT handset as a audio device.
So, no, what you are trying to do is most probable not possible. I am doing it like that, that I use a BT GPS receiver and a cable headset if I do not understand the voices correctly. This way, you get the instructions and you can even make a call without using the loudspeaker.
rgds
Marco
Thanks for the advice marco. Much appreciated. Will just have to stick with the cable headset.
Bluetooth and GPS and Headset can work
Have to disagree with Marco99. I use a Navman 4420 Bluetooth GPS unit and an O2 Bluetooth headset with my I-mate PDA2K (1.40 ROM 1.12 Radio). I use Destinator Software (The Navman SmartST is better at finding the optimum route, but it is buggy and always seems to need upgrading to use the latest ROM).
Anyway, I frequently have both devices paired.
Last weekend coming back from SA to Vic I had the Destinator humming along, and a phone call comes in. The phone screen pops up and I answer the phone using the headset button. I minimise the phone screen, and the Destinator screen re-emerges, still tracking nicely along the Glenelg Highway. You lose the Destinator voice prompts during the phone call, but not the GPS signals, nor the visual prompts.
After hanging up, again using the headset button, the Destinator voice prompts start again and away you go.
I have the HQ audio patch and a HP BT Headset. I must try that sometime with the Destinator. However, I do agree that you can't listen to the navigation software through the headset and answer the phone, only one audio connection can be made via Bluetooth.
Now, if they can fix the "Line of Sight only" B/T headset bug...
Can do BT GPS + Headset at the same time
Just to confirm, I have had my Tomtom v5 Bluetooth GPS & my cheap-n-cheerful "Abe" Bluetooth headset working concurrently. Tomtom mutes when the phone receives/makes a call, but otherwise all is working together 100%, you can make & receive phone calls OK.
Can also confirm this works with non-Tomtom BT GPS (Globalsat model).
Joe
Re: Can do BT GPS + Headset at the same time
joe2316 said:
Just to confirm, I have had my Tomtom v5 Bluetooth GPS & my cheap-n-cheerful "Abe" Bluetooth headset working concurrently. Tomtom mutes when the phone receives/makes a call, but otherwise all is working together 100%, you can make & receive phone calls OK.
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Just to ensure:
You didn't get the voice commands out of tomtom in your bluetooth headset, or?
Stefan
Tomtom5 & BT headset
No Stefan, Tomtom displays a "Mute" icon, so no sounds come from it. Only the voice call is transmitted to the headset
Joe
Re: Tomtom5 & BT headset
joe2316 said:
No Stefan, Tomtom displays a "Mute" icon, so no sounds come from it. Only the voice call is transmitted to the headset
Joe
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I can confirm that 100% :roll:
Re: Bluetooth and GPS and Headset can work
Camstech said:
Have to disagree with Marco99.
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I have to agree with camstech! I was not aware that this really is working, did not believe it and just tried it. And it works exactly as described. So, one new thing learned. As the protocol does not explain the behavior, it looks like the (otherwise crappy) bluetooth stack is quite inteligent here, and switches between different devices, so it looks both work in parallel. So, during my next roadtrip I can bring along my BT headset!
Anyway, unfortunately that does not solve your problem, Adam, as it is not possible to redirect the Navigation voice to your bluetooth headset, as long as the device (BT stack) does not support the appropriate BT profile.
regards
marco
EDIT: just checked the wikipedia entry http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluetooth. I must have dreamt about the single point connection with BT. Looks like a BT net (called piconet) can contain up to 8 devices, where one is working as master with up to 7 slaves. The details can be found in wikipedia. Maybe there is just connection per profile but I dont know for sure. Maybe there is a bluetooth expert here in the forum that could enlighten us. And possibly maybe, this is way to technical and all of you guys fall asleep during the first pragraph of my posting anyway ...

GPSgate & Parrot ck3300

Hi,
I've tried all the guides in the previous threads about getting TomTom 5.21 to work with other bluetooth GPS receivers but still no joy... it works perfectly with the tomtom BT receiver, but not my parrot 3300.
I've installed GPSgate as this will make it easier when swapping between cars and therefore whether I am using the TT receiver or Parrot...but... even with gpsgate installed, still can't get it to receive anything from the parrot. (I know the parrot is working fine cos my iPAQ on WM2003 works perfectly with it)...
I'm getting more and more frustrated with the crap bluetooth abilities of WM5 ... has anyone else got gpsgate working with their BT GPS (ideally parrot!) - if so, what com port is your input set to?
Thanks!
Hi
I have no problem with the parrot 3300 the handsfree work great the GPS works great.
Once I tryed to use 2 diffrent gps the parrot a Nokia GPS bluetooth if one work the anther well never work what I had to do is say for example I had the Nokia GPS set up to outgoing port 0 when I whatedb to use the Parrot I had to delete the outgoing port of the Nokia GPS and created a new one for the Parrot then the parrot will work.
The software that you are using from what I have read it is for one gps to use several diffrent application it is not for 2 diffrent gps to use the same application.
Ciao
Gigino
ok played some more and got it working with the parrot now... as you say it is not designed for 2 gps into one software, but at the moment it is the only way I can get the parrot to work with tomtom...
will keep on playing to try and make it work, but tried all the guides so far in this forum and still no joy apart from gpsgate
does the sound from tomtom come through your car stereo speakers? I can't get mine to do this? the handsfree phone part works fine...
I'm afraid no you well not get any sound through you car speaker with Tom Tom.
Regards
Gigino
GMTRB5 said:
does the sound from tomtom come through your car stereo speakers? I can't get mine to do this? the handsfree phone part works fine...
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