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Ok, I think this one is gonna need a sticky. I got sick of having to type in all of the shortcuts in the registry editor to change the cube, so I wrote this little spiffy app. It allows you to customize the 2 sides of the cube with shortcuts. Just make sure you know what you are doing as far as what can go where. Enjoy!
Version 1.1 - I got tired of waiting for the file browser to refresh everytime. Now you only have to wait for the first time, after that it is cached.
Version 1.2 - Added IconPress to the 6-App Side, and IconPlaying, IconPlayingPress, and IconPress to the 3-App side.
Version 2.0 - Added param for 6-App Side and 3-App Side. Added links to animation files. Added GUI for app selection for 3-App side and 6-App side.
Version 2.1 - Squashed the bugs that were coming up. Sorry I didn't test it enough before releasing.
Version 3.0 - Now supports multiple 6-App sides (See Polen's Vista Cube)!! Added reset to defaults. Automatic shortcut selector or browse for apps. Fixed the bug where the Program Files directory wasn't showing up in the Browse tree.
Version 4.0 - Added support for the iCube , animation configuring for newly added sides, export settings to .reg file, and icon image preview*.
*The icon image preview must be set up correctly to work. It all depends on the naming convention used. Polen's icon packs work with the preview. Since the .brn files cannot be rendered, a .bmp file must be placed in the directory with the .brn having the same filename or following Polen's naming convention (ex. ie.bmp -> ie_top.brn, ie_top_press.brn).
I tried testing it with the stock cube, Polen's 6 sided cube, and the iCube, but may not have caught everything, so if you find a bug, let me know!
SORRY!!! I left out a file from the .cab, it's all fixed now! Enjoy!
Version 4.1 - Fixed a bug in the export settings and the Save button was getting disabled.
Download link: http://rapidshare.com/files/79573356/CubeConfig4.1.zip
If you guys have anymore suggestions, let me know.
Cheers!
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Ok, I think this one is gonna need a sticky. I got sick of having to type in all of the shortcuts in the registry editor to change the cube, so I wrote this little spiffy app. It allows you to customize the 2 sides of the cube with shortcuts. Just make sure you know what you are doing as far as what can go where. Cheers!
http://rapidshare.com/files/73227261/CubeConfig.zip
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Thanks for the App, works great.
difference between this and touch settings???
ok one question
when i make Icons. I save them as a BMP 24 bit, then i can just BMP to BRN and it will work?
also you just install CAB and go. Do you have to stop any processes before going. I guess i wont wait for Touch settings. This looks like it will work great???
just need to know if i need different icon sizes for the 3X2 and Media Hub????
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Ok, I think this one is gonna need a sticky. I got sick of having to type in all of the shortcuts in the registry editor to change the cube, so I wrote this little spiffy app. It allows you to customize the 2 sides of the cube with shortcuts. Just make sure you know what you are doing as far as what can go where. Enjoy!
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Without wanting to detract from what you have done, you may also want to look at 'Touch Settings' which has this functionality already. (now works on the Vogue) See:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=324556 (main thread)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=347892 (vogue support thread)
in your post though it said that you cant do Iocns yet on the sprint touch this one i believe if you just set the filepath you can!
also carlos kind of in response to my other thread in the vogue forum.
I was at my friends house playing w/ his sprint touch, downloaded some icons from my website, and put them on w/ this prog. I just saved files to the windows folder with BRN extension and it worked? Idk if it will w/ touch settings, but this one works for that purpose....
still not sure though if you need different size icons for mediahub..???
also still my question..... do you have to stop running the mediahub.exe or w/e the file is called before installilng this puppy?
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in your post though it said that you cant do Icons yet on the sprint touch this one i believe if you just set the filepath you can!
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As of yesterday's build Touch Settings can display / change Sprint (BRN) Icons. Simply tap the pictures to change.
great! ive heard so many great things about the touch settings program.. That i want to continue using it.
My question is are the pics still fuzzy when you use BMP to BRN. OR are they clear like sprint pre installed logo's.
my final question, and i know its been asked, can i use the 119 by the other dimension for both the 3X2 and Media Hub Screen?? What dimensions do i need? on the pics?
also i heard about Media hub not closing? is this true or is it fixed?
Would this work for the Bell Mobility version of the HTC Touch? (Canadian carrier, with a version of the Sprint vogue)
what i dont understand is th animation tab. I know how to make my own icons and stuff, my question is... like what is the animations brn?? What do i have to make for those. Do i need to change it?? I have all custom icons, does animations matter?
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what i dont understand is th animation tab. I know how to make my own icons and stuff, my question is... like what is the animations brn?? What do i have to make for those. Do i need to change it?? I have all custom icons, does animations matter?
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those are the images that are shown when changing from side to side. You don't have to change them, but you now have the option.
i c. So like if i make icon images... when i go to animations tab, i just say for image 1, run the path to my icon. Then i will be fine?? and it will turn w/ icon of choice... But there are only 6 icons???
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What I'd really like to see is the ability to add QDail sides to the cube like you can with the Aplauncher. Has anyone got that working? I have more than 9 frequently called contacts and would love to have at least 2 sides of contacts - one for personal and one for business would be perfect.
But now that I've typed all this...I just realized that you didn't write the 6-sided cube app, right? I just integrates with yours....
I've been using the Touch Settings program from Carlos -- I'm anxious to see how this one works, too. Thanks to both of you for your hard work!
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What I'd really like to see is the ability to add QDail sides to the cube like you can with the Aplauncher. Has anyone got that working? I have more than 9 frequently called contacts and would love to have at least 2 sides of contacts - one for personal and one for business would be perfect.
But now that I've typed all this...I just realized that you didn't write the 6-sided cube app, right? I just integrates with yours....
I've been using the Touch Settings program from Carlos -- I'm anxious to see how this one works, too. Thanks to both of you for your hard work!
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Yeah, I didn't write the 6-sided cube. I worked with Polen to make my app scale to the number of sides you have installed.
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Yeah, I didn't write the 6-sided cube. I worked with Polen to make my app scale to the number of sides you have installed.
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I played with your program yesterday (okay, let me be honest...I spent 20 hours in the past 24 hours making new cube graphics and drinking coffee until it was bleeding out my ears) and it's wonderful. In combination with the 6 sided cube it's a really great ap.
This may be from a total lack of sleep and the really nice caffiene buzz I've got going, but I'm a bit confused regarding the rotation anims and how to set them via the anim tab.
Is there a way to specify different transition graphics sets between sides 1&2, 2&3, and 3&4? It seems like the default is set to use C0-C5 for all rotations of the Launcher. Am I missing something? I was that the VistaCube program installed D0-D5 so manually created my own and added them to the Windows directory. My D series seems to be applied to those transitions eventhough the animations page shows C0-C5.
Is there a way to get to a drop down menu specifically for the extra sides or is this something that must be done manually? And in either case...how would I set it up to have separate anims for each of the different sides?
The main reason I ask is because I'm planning to use rather generic icons on my launcher pages so that I can swap out programs whenever I want without having to update the graphics on the cube. For example...I have an MP3 player icon that says "Music" on one page. I can assign that to Mort, or WMP, or anything else I want and not worry about the icon. That allows me to put the icons into the rotation graphics so it's a smooth transition and I don't see the "flash" when the app icons load on top of an otherwise different background.
Whew...long-ass question for something so simple. Any help would be appreciated!
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I played with your program yesterday (okay, let me be honest...I spent 20 hours in the past 24 hours making new cube graphics and drinking coffee until it was bleeding out my ears) and it's wonderful. In combination with the 6 sided cube it's a really great ap.
This may be from a total lack of sleep and the really nice caffiene buzz I've got going, but I'm a bit confused regarding the rotation anims and how to set them via the anim tab.
Is there a way to specify different transition graphics sets between sides 1&2, 2&3, and 3&4? It seems like the default is set to use C0-C5 for all rotations of the Launcher. Am I missing something? I was that the VistaCube program installed D0-D5 so manually created my own and added them to the Windows directory. My D series seems to be applied to those transitions eventhough the animations page shows C0-C5.
Is there a way to get to a drop down menu specifically for the extra sides or is this something that must be done manually? And in either case...how would I set it up to have separate anims for each of the different sides?
The main reason I ask is because I'm planning to use rather generic icons on my launcher pages so that I can swap out programs whenever I want without having to update the graphics on the cube. For example...I have an MP3 player icon that says "Music" on one page. I can assign that to Mort, or WMP, or anything else I want and not worry about the icon. That allows me to put the icons into the rotation graphics so it's a smooth transition and I don't see the "flash" when the app icons load on top of an otherwise different background.
Whew...long-ass question for something so simple. Any help would be appreciated!
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That's a very logical request. Look for it in the next release.
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That's a very logical request. Look for it in the next release.
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Pithy. I like it.
Haggar said:
What I'd really like to see is the ability to add QDail sides to the cube like you can with the Aplauncher. Has anyone got that working? I have more than 9 frequently called contacts and would love to have at least 2 sides of contacts - one for personal and one for business would be perfect.
But now that I've typed all this...I just realized that you didn't write the 6-sided cube app, right? I just integrates with yours....
I've been using the Touch Settings program from Carlos -- I'm anxious to see how this one works, too. Thanks to both of you for your hard work!
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Did you ever figure out a way to add another contact side to the cube?
I just installed the CubeConfig3.0.CAB
In the usual screen that says successfully installed and if you need more room... It is followed by a message I have not seen yet:
The program you have installed may not display properly because it was designed for a previous version of Windows Mobile software.
FYI
EDIT: I'm running the unmodified WM6 on a Bell CDMA Touch (Vogue - 128MB RAM/256 MB ROM)
Hmm I never got that one.... I'm running the exact same phone as you, MM.
I've been searching for awhile for the registry entry that controls the color of the selection highlight when you scroll thru different selections. An example would be when you scroll you start menu or contact and such.
Any help would be greatly appreciated!!
EDIT: Here is a link to most (all) of the registry entries for theme colors
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=WindowsMobile5Colors
Scroll down for Custom Manila cab file
I did this a long time ago with SKTools, but im sorry because dont know the registry key for this.
Thanks for the reply. I've since then managed to find it and was actually looking at the right key all along but for some odd reason my phone would not respond to that particular key change. Finally I decided to cab up the theme and install it with my registry edits and it worked great Now I have a Manila theme without the ugly green highlight. It's grey instead
Bump due to updated info...
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Thanks for the reply. I've since then managed to find it and was actually looking at the right key all along but for some odd reason my phone would not respond to that particular key change. Finally I decided to cab up the theme and install it with my registry edits and it worked great Now I have a Manila theme without the ugly green highlight. It's grey instead
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did the HTC home icons you are using come with your theme? Where can I get just the icons? thanks!
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did the HTC home icons you are using come with your theme? Where can I get just the icons? thanks!
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You can get those from the HTC Home Customizer app but I will zip them up for you and attach them to this post.
lllboredlll said:
You can get those from the HTC Home Customizer app but I will zip them up for you and attach them to this post.
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thanks! I don't think they came with the version of HHC I have.
lllboredlll: may i ask what font you are using, and more importantly, how you were able to make the start menu font non-bold?
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thanks! I don't think they came with the version of HHC I have.
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I'm pretty sure you download it within HHC. That's how I get it now even though I have the file on my PC. Are you running HHCv10final?
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lllboredlll: may i ask what font you are using, and more importantly, how you were able to make the start menu font non-bold?
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I extracted an OEM from PPCGeeks OEM package and tweaked it. The font setup is the same as it was in the manila theme pack but I changed the color.
Other than that, here's a link to the thread that explains some font changes.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334781
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I'm pretty sure you download it within HHC. That's how I get it now even though I have the file on my PC. Are you running HHCv10final?
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Not sure what I have. I'm almost positive it's final though since it's in the PPCGeeks kitchen. But thanks for posting it! It wasn't there.
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Not sure what I have. I'm almost positive it's final though since it's in the PPCGeeks kitchen. But thanks for posting it! It wasn't there.
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That one is the final version. If you goto the download tab, click connect to download server. Once connected select Icons from the drop down menu then scroll down. It's right under all of the baseball sets.
Hi,
I have posted this in the General Kaiser section but I guess it has been totally disregarded.
I know that there is an issue with landscape using programs such as Manilla2D. Instead of trying to reprogram and re-icon everything on there, I purpose we do this.
We know that on the Tilt, when you slide out the keyboard, a "program/registry" on there invokes a file to play a sound. Why don't someone write a small program where, instead of invoking a .wav file, when you slide open the keyboard, you start SecondToday? So when you open, SecondToday kicks in and shows you a homescreen that you can customize, and when you slide keyboard back in, it opens SecondToday again so that Manilla2D is show in portrait?
Any thoughts?
Rytt
ATT Tilt
Apr 29 Dutty's No Cube Rom
Its a smart idea, but I'm pretty sure that'll just slow the device down beyond anything and before you know it- you'd regret opening the phone
What's supposed to happen if your trying to type a text message?
If this is the case, everytime you open the keyboard, the new home screen will appear.
I rather have a functioning homescreen then a half cropped one. I would do it but I have no idea how to go about it. As it stands now, there is no solution to Manilla2D or any other today screen except a long time reworking the coding.
Someone who can write this little program can always have an option to not display SecondToday unless you are in the Today screen.
Anyways, i have tried installing Secondtoday, copied the file into \Windows and changed the sliding sound from 0.wav to SecondToday.exe and it did not work.
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I rather have a functioning homescreen then a half cropped one. I would do it but I have no idea how to go about it. As it stands now, there is no solution to Manilla2D or any other today screen except a long time reworking the coding.
Someone who can write this little program can always have an option to not display SecondToday unless you are in the Today screen.
Anyways, i have tried installing Secondtoday, copied the file into \Windows and changed the sliding sound from 0.wav to SecondToday.exe and it did not work.
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Probably because it's not a sound file.
TheChampJT said:
Probably because it's not a sound file.
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I mean I changed it in the registry, not just in windows itself......
Rytt55 said:
I mean I changed it in the registry, not just in windows itself......
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I know, but the sliding event is set to play a sound file, not run an executible file.
as for the memory, I am running both Manilla2d and weatherpanel with the looping animated icons via secondtoday. It takes a little longer to load from a reset/first boot, but after that I switch between both today screens nearly instantaneously. I actually think you're on to something here. Dunno about other devices, but for us Kaiser owners, this could be something to look into - even if it turns out to be little more than proof of concept.
Wouldn't that effectively mean you have loaded all the plugins twice in the memory. Seems like a good concept, but the useable practicality of it is outweighed by the mem hogging / slowness it would produce imho.
Just look at this guys.
Touch Dual have this 'option'. when you slide out the keyboard it runs the HTC acton screen. nearly same thing does Raphael. So i think its just a matter of good registry tweaking here. Or maybe doing a small program for that. Just an idea.
You could look up the TouchDual.
Cheers,
Chris
ThrottleLauncher can do it.
Load the current ThrottleLauncher TF3D today screen. It has a completely different landscape setup (lots of create new email type buttons). Once you've established what your after, you can edit the XML files to create your own Today screens
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Load the current ThrottleLauncher TF3D today screen. It has a completely different landscape setup (lots of create new email type buttons). Once you've established what your after, you can edit the XML files to create your own Today screens
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We're talking about Manilla2D.
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We're talking about Manilla2D.
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Perhaps you should re-read the first quote.
Manilla2D was given as an exemplar of what one might do with a landscape today screen. The question was not limitted to this package. ThrottleLauncher is a perfect solution.
wouldn't any of this cause the screen orientation to take longer to switch?
Finally!
I am glad that some of you are thinking this is an great idea!
I hope it'll be pretty easy to come up with something like SecondToday. I don't mind it being slow but sitting at my computer looking at a messed up today erks me lol.
Is there a way to get more Buttons in the Program tab?
I've tryed to add more button folders in registry:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\Manila\ProgramLauncher]
But the result is,
there are more buttons, but You can't use them
so is there something else I have to change?
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Added a Screenshot,
-> thats What I got.
but I can't add programs to the last 3 lines.
Use Manilla 2D Customizer (M2DC)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=427392
You can have a maximum of 5x9 = 45 buttons
But I have an HTC HD with Manlia 3D
thix sux =(
LewxX said:
thix sux =(
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If you export and post the Regkey you mentioned above i'll try to have a look at it.
I've done at pocketpc.ch:
here is the link:
http://www.pocketpc.ch/touch-hd-twe...tabs-unter-programme-im-neuen-startmenue.html
I guess you'll understand that language ^^
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I've done at pocketpc.ch:
here is the link:
http://www.pocketpc.ch/touch-hd-twe...tabs-unter-programme-im-neuen-startmenue.html
I guess you'll understand that language ^^
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Not just a little bit I will take a look there
Wondering
I added the registry entries to allow for more, this all seemed to work, clicked on a button to add the appropriate new link, comes back, no icon. I go into Diamond TF3D Config and can see that the entries are in there, but TFlow3D wont action or show the icons - very confusing, there must be something we are missing and my Swiss German is sadly lacking - any ideas?
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I added the registry entries to allow for more, this all seemed to work, clicked on a button to add the appropriate new link, comes back, no icon. I go into Diamond TF3D Config and can see that the entries are in there, but TFlow3D wont action or show the icons - very confusing, there must be something we are missing and my Swiss German is sadly lacking - any ideas?
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I guess as soon as there is a solution for that LewxX will post it
Sorry, fwt, I thought you and LewxX had solved this with the link to our Swiss friends... looking forward to any solution!
Hello,
I see in Settings -> Personalize - two settings for Wallpapers: Lock-Screen Wallpaper and Home Tab Wallpaper.
Is there a tweak to merge these two functions ?
I'm looking for a solution without turning off HTC Sense.
Thanks in advance
!!!!!!! ARGH!!!
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No one knows it or what ??
arcades said:
!!!!!!! ARGH!!!
256 views and no replies!!
No one knows it or what ??
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I think you don't have an answer because it's not a big deal.
So what, there are 2 different wallpaper settings. A lot of people prefer it that way. Why do you only want 1? (Incidentally, 63 <> 256)
why cant you just set the same wallpaper for the 2 screens, problem solved! why do you have to turn sense off by the way?
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why cant you just set the same wallpaper for the 2 screens, problem solved! why do you have to turn sense off by the way?
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I want use programs that will change my wallpapers automatically every hour taking each time new wallpaper from my folder.
I tested every existing "wallpaper changer" for windows mobile. None of them is able to change HTC HD2 "Lock-Screen" Wallpaper!
And this is because of that stupid HTC Sense, which is trouble for many programs that work just perfect on other Windows Mobile operated devices.
arcades said:
I want use programs that will change my wallpapers automatically every hour taking each time new wallpaper from my folder.
I tested every existing "wallpaper changer" for windows mobile. None of them is able to change HTC HD2 "Lock-Screen" Wallpaper!
And this is because of that stupid HTC Sense, which is trouble for many programs that work just perfect on other Windows Mobile operated devices.
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There's nothing stupid about the Sense UI having its own wallpaper. I don't have any other applications that assume the same wallpaper as windows. Do you? The lock screen is part of the Windows UI, not the Sense UI. Hence, different wallpaper. Not stupid - normal.
Also, "trouble for many programs that work just perfect on other Windows Mobile operated devices" just sounds like you're *****ing. You need to be more constructive in your critiscism, but expressing details in your issues, and how you would like them to be resolved.
Look for an app to change the Today wallpaper. I'd be really suprised if there isn't one. This will change the lock screen wallpaper. You'll need to use both apps, unless someone is interested in making something specifically for you.
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There's nothing stupid about the Sense UI having its own wallpaper. I don't have any other applications that assume the same wallpaper as windows. Do you? The lock screen is part of the Windows UI, not the Sense UI. Hence, different wallpaper. Not stupid - normal.
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No. You're wrong. As I researched this problem with one developer of "Wallpaper Changer" - HTC HD2 has it's own title of "Lock-Screen wallpaper". On all WM devices Lock-Screen / "Start-Menu" wallpapers has title like "stwater*.gif". On HTC HD2 this file has title "HTC_stwater*.gif" with that "HTC" prefix. It is that HTC Developers were too excited customizing WM 6.5 on this device, because on other WM 6.5 phones "Wallpaper Changer" program works fine. And there are many such customized things which made HTC programmes. Now this powerful phone gets useless as many programs doesn't work properly on it.
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Look for an app to change the Today wallpaper. I'd be really suprised if there isn't one. This will change the lock screen wallpaper. You'll need to use both apps, unless someone is interested in making something specifically for you.
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I suppose you didn't check before suggesting it... So, you can prepare to be surprised, because that program which I tested - changes Today wallpaper too, but it doesn't change HTC HD2 Lock-Screen wallpaper.
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You need to be more constructive in your critiscism, but expressing details in your issues, and how you would like them to be resolved.
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Roger that! Affirmative!
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No. You're wrong. As I researched this problem with one developer of "Wallpaper Changer" - HTC HD2 has it's own title of "Lock-Screen wallpaper". On all WM devices Lock-Screen / "Start-Menu" wallpapers has title like "stwater*.gif". On HTC HD2 this file has title "HTC_stwater*.gif" with that "HTC" prefix. It is that HTC Developers were too excited customizing WM 6.5 on this device, because on other WM 6.5 phones "Wallpaper Changer" program works fine. And there are many such customized things which made HTC programmes. Now this powerful phone gets useless as many programs doesn't work properly on it.
I suppose you didn't check before suggesting it... So, you can prepare to be surprised, because that program which I tested - changes Today wallpaper too, but it doesn't change HTC HD2 Lock-Screen wallpaper.
Roger that! Affirmative!
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Well I guess that when I change the today wallpaper on my phone and it also changes the lock screen, it must be doing something completely different to your phone.
I suggest that you actually try that before berating people who are actually correct.
arcades said:
I want use programs that will change my wallpapers automatically every hour taking each time new wallpaper from my folder.
I tested every existing "wallpaper changer" for windows mobile. None of them is able to change HTC HD2 "Lock-Screen" Wallpaper!
And this is because of that stupid HTC Sense, which is trouble for many programs that work just perfect on other Windows Mobile operated devices.
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right, i`m with you. wish i could help but i cant lol
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Well I guess that when I change the today wallpaper on my phone and it also changes the lock screen, it must be doing something completely different to your phone.
I suggest that you actually try that before berating people who are actually correct.
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1) Do you have HTC HD2 phone ?
2) Did you use external software to change Lock-Screen wallpaper?
If "no" for any question then you're not correct.
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1) Do you have HTC HD2 phone ?
2) Did you use external software to change Lock-Screen wallpaper?
If "no" for any question then you're not correct.
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I am trying to help you - stop being an idiot.
Do you know how to change the today wallpaper without using a piece of software? If so, do it. You will see that it is also the same as the wallpaper in the start menu, and, if you bother to try it and then check, turn off sense and you will see it is the same as the today wallpaper.
Stop being so offensive and grow up. This is a forum, not a playground.
Actually, I've just reread the whole of this thread, and I can see what the problem is.
You're a newb.
Here's some facts for you. These are not debatable - they are facts.
There is a wallpaper setting for the HTC Sense Home tab.
There is a wallpaper setting for Windows (including Today, Titanium, and the lock screen.)
There is no such thing as the "HTC Lock-Screen Wallpaper" - that actually point to the one just mentioned in point 2.
I tend to be as helpful as possible on this forum. I've been here for over 18 months and I've helped a lot of people with problems on their phones from big issues, to tiny insignificant things (my very 1st post was one that was an answer to someone's question!) I'm on my 3rd Windows mobile phone, and yes, it happens to be a HD2. I've had it for 7 weeks now, so I'm quite familiar with the extra features that weren't on the TouchFlo interface of the Touch HD, or the Touch Diamond.
Despite what you think, I do know what I'm talking about. You're just not listening.
So, with that in mind, will you please stop being so aggressive and explain why you don't understand something I've said. I am happy to help, but I'm not a saint, so stop being offensive and we can be friends
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I am trying to help you - stop being an idiot.
Do you know how to change the today wallpaper without using a piece of software? If so, do it. You will see that it is also the same as the wallpaper in the start menu, and, if you bother to try it and then check, turn off sense and you will see it is the same as the today wallpaper.
Stop being so offensive and grow up. This is a forum, not a playground.
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LOL, what attitude you expect, if you don't read my questions and call me an idiot? Maybe it's something wrong with you if you're not attentive. Then, please, read this quoted text once again:
arcades said:
I want use programs that will change my wallpapers automatically every hour taking each time new wallpaper from my folder.
I tested every existing "wallpaper changer" for windows mobile. None of them is able to change HTC HD2 "Lock-Screen" Wallpaper!
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I know how to change every wallpaper type ( Home tab, Lock-Screen & Start Menu ) using standard settings. I know that turning off Sense and changing today affects on all three wallpapers and it's one file. If you were a bit more attentive you'd saw that I'm looking for a way to change "Lock-Screen" wallpaper (with turned on Sense) using external program. And I also mentioned that all such programs are able to change only Home tab wallpaper, even if Sense is turned off.
If you are trying to help, please, read my answers carefully before using offensive words...
Good luck newb. I'm out.
johncmolyneux said:
You're a newb.
[*]There is no such thing as the "HTC Lock-Screen Wallpaper" - that actually point to the one just mentioned in point 2.
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See on attached Screenshot.
Is it something new to you ?
Guess there is something what you can learn from "newb".
Stop being aggressive and listen, if you want help!
Okay... johncmolyneux is right. There's only two kinds of wallpaper: One for Sense, and one for the lockscreen and start menu.
The one for Sense is called "Home tab wallpaper".
The one for the Lockscreen and start menu is called "Lock screen wallpaper".
If Sense is turned off, the the Today Screen wallpaper is the same as the lock screen and start menu wallpaper.
The Today Screen, lock screen and start menu wallpaper is the file "stwater_480_800.png" in your Windows directory.
OKAY, that's for the explanation. NOW.... WHAT programs have you tried? I will have a look at what they actually do, so that I can find out what's wrong.
However, it is clear that the programs can only change either the Sense wallpaper or the lock screen wallpaper, because they are different files. Afaik there is no program that changes both at a time.
seed_al said:
Stop being aggressive and listen, if you want help!
Okay... johncmolyneux is right. There's only two kinds of wallpaper: One for Sense, and one for the lockscreen and start menu.
The one for Sense is called "Home tab wallpaper".
The one for the Lockscreen and start menu is called "Lock screen wallpaper".
If Sense is turned off, the the Today Screen wallpaper is the same as the lock screen and start menu wallpaper.
The Today Screen, lock screen and start menu wallpaper is the file "stwater_480_800.png" in your Windows directory.
The programs you used change this file. That means those programs change the wallpaper for the lock screen AND the start menu AT ONCE, because it's the same file.
However, the change only takes effect after a soft reset. That's why your programs don't work and it also means that what you want is not possible.
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seed_al, thanks for your clear answer, highly appreciate it.
all above I knew already, EXCEPT this thing:
seed_al said:
However, the change only takes effect after a soft reset. That's why your programs don't work and it also means that what you want is not possible.
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When I tried to change Lock-Screen wallpaper (which is same as Start Menu wallpaper), it was set to default file: \Windows\ HTC_stwater_480x800.gif. It looks like a blue gradient default wallpaper. And unfortunately it stayed after soft-reset I asked other HD2 users and they had the same result.
If I'm able to change Lock-Screen wallpaper from "Settings" without soft-reset, maybe there should be possibility to do the same with external program and without soft-reset? When I manually change Home-tab wallpaper - it changes immediately, when I change Lock-screen wallpaper from settings - I see Windows Mobile "Loading" for couple of seconds. As I understand it means WM unlocks current file from being used by appropriate process and changes wallpaper. Then, maybe there could be possibility to unlock file from external program? I'm not familiar close to WM, but I guess some things that are done on Windows XP could be done on WM (here I mean only that well coded program could trick WM features) ? For example, in WIN XP I use great program "Unlocker" to free files from being used by running process.
Strange...
Why is it that so many newbies who come on here for help turn argumentative and aggressive? Is it something in the air they breath or what?
I appreciate that for some English is not their first language so some things do get lost in translation; however how the hell they expect help if they are giving it lip is beyond me.
There are lots of people on here, including me, who don't mind helping newbs as we were newbs once. Even though they post the same question a thousand times without reading or searching first, which is SO frustrating, we still try to help.
I suspect this thread will die very quickly unless the OP starts getting a little more friendly......
Just lighten up a little.
WB
arcades said:
When I tried to change Lock-Screen wallpaper (which is same as Start Menu wallpaper), it was set to default file: \Windows\ HTC_stwater_480x800.gif. It looks like a blue gradient default wallpaper. And unfortunately it stayed after soft-reset I asked other HD2 users and they had the same result.
If I'm able to change Lock-Screen wallpaper from "Settings" without soft-reset, maybe there should be possibility to do the same with external program and without soft-reset? When I manually change Home-tab wallpaper - it changes immediately, when I change Lock-screen wallpaper from settings - I see Windows Mobile "Loading" for couple of seconds. As I understand it means WM unlocks current file from being used by appropriate process and changes wallpaper. Then, maybe there could be possibility to unlock file from external program? I'm not familiar close to WM, but I guess some things that are done on Windows XP could be done on WM ? For example, in WIN XP I use great program "Unlocker" to free files from being used by running process.
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Okay, I had a deeper look into it, and this is how it works:
The HTC_stwater_480_800 file is in ROM. It is not the lock screen/start menu wallpaper.
The stwater_480_800.png file is the wallpaper. When you change the lock screen wallpaper in the settings, it overwrites that file.
If you set it to default, it takes the HTC_stwater_480_800 from the ROM, renames it (i.e. removes the HTC_) and replaces the stwater_480_800 file.
NOW...
...if you do change the wallpaper from the settings, everything is fine, it changes immediately...
BUT...
...if you replace the stwater_480_800.png file by hand, you need to soft reset for the change to take effect!
I don't know why this is, but this may be the reason why those programs can't change the lock screen wallpaper immediately. There must be a possibility, as HTC Sense IS able to change it immediately, but obviously, only replacing the stwater_480_800.png is not enough.
But anyways, the "Home tab wallpaper" (which is only for Sense) is still completely independent from the "Lock screen wallpaper" (which is the stwater file for the lock screen and start menu). As far as I understood, you want a program that changes both at the same time? I think there is no such program at the moment.
wacky.banana said:
Why is it that so many newbies who come on here for help turn argumentative and aggressive? Is it something in the air they breath or what?
I appreciate that for some English is not their first language so some things do get lost in translation; however how the hell they expect help if they are giving it lip is beyond me.
There are lots of people on here, including me, who don't mind helping newbs as we were newbs once. Even though they post the same question a thousand times without reading or searching first, which is SO frustrating, we still try to help.
I suspect this thread will die very quickly unless the OP starts getting a little more friendly......
Just lighten up a little.
WB
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Hehe, see that if I didn't post my second aggressive bumping reply, this thread would have been lost deep in the forum without any answer at all. Old threads usually are ignored.
I just feel that he wanted to show off with his knowledge, call me idiot, newb or whatever and didn't carefully read my answers or explained it in manner that it looked so. Maybe I also explained my question not correct and we misunderstood each other.
seed_al just explained it in one post, so it's really looks clear. Laconic and effective.