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Hi, I'm very keen on buying the P3600 and am just wondering about a couple of things - firstly, not having used a touchscreen before, how easy it texting using the on-screen keypad. Secondly, an odd question, but one I've been wondering about - if you're viewing a web page, but are holding the P3600 in landscape (or sideways) when you use the scroll button which way does the page scroll - horizontally or vertically?
Thanks
Vertically.
Texting is fine on the Dopod D810 - I use the stylus and keyboard only now but if you prefer Phone Pad style, there is one installed too. I just don't like the way it requires you to select the word from the prompt list rather than just display the word in the msg straight away. If you're ambitious (& patience), you might also like to try the Transcriber with your hand-writing
TenGo text entry
Anybody tried TenGO Thumb and if so, does it integrate well with the Trinity and more importantly is it easy to use?
Thanks for all your help so far.
I've tried to install TenGO before but couldn't get it to work. Right after that, I found PhonePad and haven't looked back. For long texts/emails, I use Spb fullscreen keyboard...no stylus necessary...
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i have tried to install TenGo and this phone pad, oh and a couple of other alternate keyboards, and try as i may i cannot get them to show up. They exist in the list, both as an alternate input method and as an option on the keyboard choice pop-up. A soft reset after picking one still returns me to the original keyboard.
Am i missing something really obvious? If so where should i start looking?
Banafish, what is 'Spb fullscreen keyboard' - is it a stand-alone application?
Try using the iPhone-like keyboard. Love it for texting.
Of all I've used so far, thats the most comfortable, especially in landscape mode . Not only the keys are big, it also doesnt eat up all your screen space when writing like that of spb keyboard (which is good for writing essays, which I'll never do).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=296455
SPB fullscreen keyboard is an application:
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/fsk/?en
You can install/uninstall it like you would any 3rd party app. Once installed, it will appear as an input option and you can access it that way. I have it mapped to one of the hard buttons so that I can just activate it when I need it.
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Banafish, what is 'Spb fullscreen keyboard' - is it a stand-alone application?
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Does anyone know if there's a sip out there that shows how many characters you've typed...because you really need to know when you've reached the 160 characters limit for a single text message?
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Does anyone know if there's a sip out there that shows how many characters you've typed...because you really need to know when you've reached the 160 characters limit for a single text message?
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I thought you can see this in the default message window, just that you need to close the text input panel first.. or scroll down the window.
ok, I just got tengo keyboard to work. Not for fast one handed operation, although you can try tengo thumb. There's a free 'lite' version of the regular tengo keyboard available.
Anyone ever tried using Fitaly? I managed to get upwards of 40 words per minute using that, even sometimes hitting 50 wpm. I installed 3.5 on it though, and it slowed down my phone so much, I had to take it off.
These two programs rock! I find myself using the pcmkeyboard (WITHOUT autocorrect) all the time. POcketcm.. not so much..
It's great to show it to people, but honestly I'm faster with t9 contact searches such as what the htc dialer uses.. The threading SMS is great though - now if it would only integrate with SPB's mobile shell so that the messaging options shows it
PCMKeyboard's autocorrect keeps getting in my way. I've had to disable it as it usually uncorrects words that are fine to start with.. Would love to see an option to quickly enable/disable this from the keyboard screen and without going to the options...
I'll type up a quick email/sms, then look back and realize that the words had been changed on me..
Overall - I'm pretty much as-fast on the hardware keyboard on my ppc-6800 as with pcmkeyboard - which says a lot about a soft keyboard...
Keep up the great work!
-mark
diomark said:
These two programs rock! I find myself using the pcmkeyboard (WITHOUT autocorrect) all the time. POcketcm.. not so much..
It's great to show it to people, but honestly I'm faster with t9 contact searches such as what the htc dialer uses.. The threading SMS is great though - now if it would only integrate with SPB's mobile shell so that the messaging options shows it
PCMKeyboard's autocorrect keeps getting in my way. I've had to disable it as it usually uncorrects words that are fine to start with.. Would love to see an option to quickly enable/disable this from the keyboard screen and without going to the options...
I'll type up a quick email/sms, then look back and realize that the words had been changed on me..
Overall - I'm pretty much as-fast on the hardware keyboard on my ppc-6800 as with pcmkeyboard - which says a lot about a soft keyboard...
Keep up the great work!
-mark
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I'm using the pcm keyboard, also. and there is an option to turn off auto correct and suggest words. Uncheck the box that says enable auto correct. The downsides I've found with the pcm keyboard is there's no option to make it the default keyboard, and I have to redo everything after start ups.
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try this to set up your fav. default
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hotdog53 said:
I'm using the pcm keyboard, also. and there is an option to turn off auto correct and suggest words. Uncheck the box that says enable auto correct. The downsides I've found with the pcm keyboard is there's no option to make it the default keyboard, and I have to redo everything after start ups.
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I know you can disable it - mine is disabled.. I just wish the auto-correct was a bit easier to disable/enable on demand...
i.e. when I'm typing a URL, I don't need autocorrect (in fact 9 times out of 10 it gets in the way and I have to tell it to revert..).. but it's helpful for fast sms messages...
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thank god for pcm keyboard.
I just updated pocket cm, so still reviewing.
there is a sipchange app to set default the keyboard.
hotdog53 said:
I'm using the pcm keyboard, also. and there is an option to turn off auto correct and suggest words. Uncheck the box that says enable auto correct. The downsides I've found with the pcm keyboard is there's no option to make it the default keyboard, and I have to redo everything after start ups.
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Well i am a happy user of pocketcm but i don't like pcmkeyboard , the layout is just to small for my fingers , i would like to see more rows. like:
qwerty
uiop
asdf
ghjkl
zxc
bnm
so that the keys can be bigger and more finger friendly , now i use phonepad intl from mccune with t9
You can actually make the program behave that way by creating a settings file. However, by doing this it will take up most if not all of the screen
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Well i am a happy user of pocketcm but i don't like pcmkeyboard , the layout is just to small for my fingers , i would like to see more rows. like:
qwerty
uiop
asdf
ghjkl
zxc
bnm
so that the keys can be bigger and more finger friendly , now i use phonepad intl from mccune with t9
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I dont like the fact that when ever I get a text message Pocket CM opens, I'd prefer just to have the normal notification... anyone know how to stop this - Also the whole loading previous conversations is way to looong!
I think I'd be happier if it were a contact manager and not a content manager.
I like the slickness of this program - Very good - waiting for the next release!
anybody try this PocketCM keyboard for htc touch??
like iphone keyboad....very fast....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7t0Zhys5tWE&NR=1
this the screen shot....nice application and its free..
iphone look a like keyboard
http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php
The author asked for the app not to be posted as it's a Beta
But you can keep up with its progress here:
http://www.pocketcm.com
I have to say that this is a killer app for the Touch.
If you have a Touch you really must install this software. It's awesome.
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I have to say that this is a killer app for the Touch. If you have a Touch you really must install this software. It's awesome.
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It's a lovely, good-looking piece of software, but ultimately just doesn't work for me.
I've tried keyboards on touch-screen devices but ultimately none really work for me - I think my fingers and thumbs are just too big! Also, if you are typing fast you don't really have time to check each letter before releasing your fingers from the keyboard, so the visual feedback is rendered pointless. Typing capital letters is a faff too.
The best I've found has been phonepad. Perhaps a combination of the two might be worthwhile, e.g. a phonepad with visual feedback?
Best SIP outside of phonepad!
Contact Manager is also a must for a touch user!
any1 tried to disable the dictionary? seems like its very troublesome for me as i cant type shortform.
EDIT - To disable the dictionary its in the setting -> input -> option
Only became very usable for me with "Enable Suggention" NOT selected.
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It's a lovely, good-looking piece of software, but ultimately just doesn't work for me.
I've tried keyboards on touch-screen devices but ultimately none really work for me - I think my fingers and thumbs are just too big! Also, if you are typing fast you don't really have time to check each letter before releasing your fingers from the keyboard, so the visual feedback is rendered pointless. Typing capital letters is a faff too.
The best I've found has been phonepad. Perhaps a combination of the two might be worthwhile, e.g. a phonepad with visual feedback?
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The whole point of this keyboard is that you don't have to make sure you touched the right key...you just type the word, and if you typed "rgw", it'll change it to "the" because it looks at blocks of letters, almost like t9...you type and in the end the right word should be there...
it's head and shoulders above the kb that comes with any wm phones...
Go to the website, or check out the youtube vid
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7t0Zhys5tWE&eurl=http://pocketcm.com/screenshot.php?v=3
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samawil said:
The whole point of this keyboard is that you don't have to make sure you touched the right key...you just type the word, and if you typed "rgw", it'll change it to "the" because it looks at blocks of letters, almost like t9...you type and in the end the right word should be there...
it's head and shoulders above the kb that comes with any wm phones...
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Whilst I agree that this is a good idea, it just doesn't work for me, I'm afraid. I think that I, and perhaps others, tend to type at least one or two non-dictionary words per text/message. I also use capital letters and punctuation a lot and, as I mentioned, I have very big hands!
I'm not saying it's no good, in fact as I mentioned I think that it's a brilliant program, I recommend everybody tries it out and reaches their own conclusions too.
It would be good if there were a way to auto-select the input (SIP) method on a per-program basis, e.g. so that PocketCMKeyboard came up automatically for text messages, but then it was the standard keyboard for other text entry. Perhaps this can already be done, I don't know.
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carlosp_uk said:
It's a lovely, good-looking piece of software, but ultimately just doesn't work for me.
I've tried keyboards on touch-screen devices but ultimately none really work for me - I think my fingers and thumbs are just too big! Also, if you are typing fast you don't really have time to check each letter before releasing your fingers from the keyboard, so the visual feedback is rendered pointless. Typing capital letters is a faff too.
The best I've found has been phonepad. Perhaps a combination of the two might be worthwhile, e.g. a phonepad with visual feedback?
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Have you tried Tengo Thumb?
I'm not saying it's no good, in fact as I mentioned I think that it's a brilliant program, I recommend everybody tries it out and reaches their own conclusions too.
It would be good if there were a way to auto-select the input (SIP) method on a per-program basis, e.g. so that PocketCMKeyboard came up automatically for text messages, but then it was the standard keyboard for other text entry. Perhaps this can already be done, I don't know.
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I see...you can add words to it too
off subject a little, your sig says that if we like your program we can buy you a beer...what is your program?
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off subject a little, your sig says that if we like your program we can buy you a beer...what is your program?
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totally off subject but it's "Touch Settings", the program to customise all the programs on the cube/mediahub and weather settings etc. I should change my sig though as it keeps popping up OT. !
I really like this keyboard, almost better than HTK. It would be nice if the period (.) were on the alpha keyboard an not the number keyboard.
spartanrob said:
I really like this keyboard, almost better than HTK. It would be nice if the period (.) were on the alpha keyboard an not the number keyboard.
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It kind of is, just tap & hold the symbol key (lower LHS) and you get the . slide a little to the right & get the other most common punctuation marks.
You may want to try this skin...
I added the period and comma on the main text screen. This works very well for my Touch.
Post #488
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=321712&page=49
yes this is indeed the best keyboard for ppc.
hey I recently bought an HTC touch and came across this excellent software*kudos to the one who programed it* I would like to ask for help in using this. I downloaded it through my touch directly then nstalled it on the phone memory and went to settings and input then selected PCM Keyboard and then ok but nothing happens I'm still stuck with the same old little keyboard help please thanks
2manyphones said:
I added the period and comma on the main text screen. This works very well for my Touch.
Post #488
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=321712&page=49
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Thanks a lot for this! This is exactly what I wanted in the PCM Keyboard! I was getting sick of opening the full screen PDAMedia Keyboard. I like to see what I type
Hi, is there a keyboard with 5 rows (numbers visible) that you can still accuratly press keys with your fingers? Because my passwords contain both numbers and letters and i have to enter them a lot :-( Thanks.
mdalacu said:
Hi, is there a keyboard with 5 rows (numbers visible) that you can still accuratly press keys with your fingers? Because my passwords contain both numbers and letters and i have to enter them a lot :-( Thanks.
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I recommend Fingerkeyboard. It is free, highly customizable and does a great job. See my signature for the link. You can create your own layout if you want. I think other users have already made a layout with 5 rows, but if not, you can make your own. It is pretty easy. You can also see my signature for a basic tutorial on editing layouts. You decide what keys you wnat, where you want them, and what characters you want each key to type. If you have questions, you can post them in the Fingerkeyboard 2.1 thread here.
Another good keyboard if you prefer sliding instead of typing is SlideIT by Dasur. It costs $15 and does a great job. You can type (i.e. slide) really fast with it. It also supports many languages. You can view their homepage here.
Thank you!
Chris Cross said:
I recommend Fingerkeyboard. It is free, highly customizable and does a great job. See my signature for the link. You can create your own layout if you want. I think other users have already made a layout with 5 rows, but if not, you can make your own. It is pretty easy. You can also see my signature for a basic tutorial on editing layouts. You decide what keys you wnat, where you want them, and what characters you want each key to type. If you have questions, you can post them in the Fingerkeyboard 2.1 thread here.
Another good keyboard if you prefer sliding instead of typing is SlideIT by Dasur. It costs $15 and does a great job. You can type (i.e. slide) really fast with it. It also supports many languages. You can view their homepage here.
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I ready that fingerkeyboard had problems with the HD2, can you confirm that it works well, and what version are u using?
Today i tried TouchPal. it is the BEST keyboard for the HD2 (at least for me).
It is so east to type accurately now.
i agree with Touch Pal i can write extremly fast plus a lower sensitive cab installation is just perfect - at least for me.
Zoomboard from vito
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I ready that fingerkeyboard had problems with the HD2, can you confirm that it works well, and what version are u using?
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one of the reasons that FK had problems with the HD2 is the speed of the capacitive screen. Some people correct that with the lesss sensitive Cab on this site. With FK go to options and delay the two hold times. I've set the left one to 400 instead of 250 and the right one to 250. Now FB works well on the HD2.
Chriss: can you confirm this and also tell us what the left and right one are for???
I installed TouchPal and thought it was pretty naff compared to the standard HTC keyboard, to be honest. I can type faster and mode accurately using the standard keyboard. In fact, this post was written using it!
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Chriss: can you confirm this and also tell us what the left and right one are for???
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Sorry guys. I got mixed up. No, I have not tested it on the Leo (I'm still looking into getting one ). I have only read the same reports that you have all mentioned here.
And @kuzibri: what do you mean with "what the left and right one are for"?
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Sorry guys. I got mixed up. No, I have not tested it on the Leo (I'm still looking into getting one ). I have only read the same reports that you have all mentioned here.
And @kuzibri: what do you mean with "what the left and right one are for"?
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in the options tab there are two response time possibilities, eg left and right one.
I've tried a few of the others now, but still easily prefer the HTC supplied keyboard. I just wish it had the same gesture support as the WM default keyboard.
just another suggestion for a good keyboard for HD2: Cliquick. This also rotates the screen to landscape when pressing the .,123 key in whichever program you're in. You can find it here: http://cliquick.com/
edit: you can also set it to be your default SIP in the option settings.
Anyone happen to try SlideIt (http://www.dasur.co.il/Product/SlideIT/SlideIT.php) on the HD2? If not, anyone feel like trying the demo & letting me know how it works?
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Anyone happen to try SlideIt (http://www.dasur.co.il/Product/SlideIT/SlideIT.php) on the HD2? If not, anyone feel like trying the demo & letting me know how it works?
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yes, I tried it. Its awesome in terms of speed and ease of use, but cannot switch to landscape mode. When you switch to landscape, e.g. in Opera, the screen gets messed up with this keyboard and a soft reset is needed. If I only was to use portrait mode, this would be the keyboard of choice.
Now that has become Cliquick. This even switches Word Mobile to landscape when you press the ",.123" key without using a third party sensor app like Gyrator or ChangeScreen. It comes with a 60 day trial and, if you do not want to buy it therafter, you can still use it for a max of 100 chars a day.
Let me throw ShapeWriter into the mix also.
Takes some getting used to but unce you've got it, it's much faster than a regular keypad (imo)
richard.ian.brown said:
Let me throw ShapeWriter into the mix also.
Takes some getting used to but unce you've got it, it's much faster than a regular keypad (imo)
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It's a pitty that this is only in English si I canot use it. BTW, it has great resemblance with Dasur's SlideIT. That one is blazing fast and easy to use (and supports several languages), but its main flaw is that it does not support landcsape. In this orientation it messes up the screen and a soft reset is needed. Otherwise this would be my nr 1 keyboard. Now that is Cliquick.
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yes, I tried it. Its awesome in terms of speed and ease of use, but cannot switch to landscape mode. When you switch to landscape, e.g. in Opera, the screen gets messed up with this keyboard and a soft reset is needed. If I only was to use portrait mode, this would be the keyboard of choice.
Now that has become Cliquick. This even switches Word Mobile to landscape when you press the ",.123" key without using a third party sensor app like Gyrator or ChangeScreen. It comes with a 60 day trial and, if you do not want to buy it therafter, you can still use it for a max of 100 chars a day.
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Sounds like the exact problem I have on my Advantage (the rotation issue). I've been the only one to report it, so I'm forwarding your note here as well.
I'll have to try Cliquick. Is this the one where you have to hit the same key several times to get different letters (like hit ab to get "a" and hit it again to get "b" ? Guess I'll find out.
Glad to hear the SlideIT works well except for the rotation issue, so if they can fix it, I'll be very happy.
I have noticed the latest version of Fingerkeyboard refusing to open when my HD2 (Leo) has come out of standby - can't recall what was running just prior so haven't raised it with the creator yet. I couldn't open another keyboard so had to take the battery out on the two occassions it happened.
A keyboard I have been using of late, as it worked well on my Touch HD is Zoomboard
I have tried both slideit and shapewriter and on the HD2 I much prefer slide it, its mainly due to how it handles the irratic behaviour of the capacitive screen, I mean HTC need to fix up its response, in shapewriter the line drawn with your finger tends to be scribbled everywhere missing letters, to much lesser extent on slidit, the keys are much easier to hit in slideit imo. the finger sliding keyboards are the way to go either way, I can type so much faster with slidit and takes only little parctice to get a real knack of it ... slideIT is fantastic
Phone Keypad,
Compact QWERTY,
Full QWERTY, or
Swype?
Swype took me awhile to get used to, but it seems to be handy when i can't pay attention to the keyboard fully (driving and when watching something else)
Full keyboard is ok, but
I really prefer Phone Keypad.
I guess too many years spent with t9...
trying to switch to swype fully, though.
i love the full qwerty.
SWYPE! All the way.
Swype in landscape. Oh yes!
Swype
I'm slow at all of them! Used phone keypad forever, then swype on landscape,figured easier because bigger, not! Changed to small qwerty, fantastic! just get close to letter, poof, word appears!! love it!!
Full QWERTY since I mainly web browse. Swype isn't smart enough to know I don't want spaces in my website urls.. Also I don't want it to suggest correct spellings for urls..
As others have mentioned for web browsing, standard keyboard is great but othwerwise Swype is consistent and works well, Touchpal also very reliable and quite fast once you get the hang of it.
Tried Slideit, thought Swype better esp on our 4.3 in screens.
swype is great on portrait mode because our screens are so big, I actually never use swype in landscape
swype is impossible in landscape
Sogou, or full qwerty sometimes touchpal...
std qwerty suffice but I would love to have grafiti2 or block recognizer (if possible)
SlideIT all the way, as well in portrait as in landscape mode.
I only found out about swype last week and already my typing speed has quadrupled! not hard as I was pretty slow to begin with.. but its great to be able to type now at a normal speed on my phone ... just one thing... is there a fast way to get icons like exclamation mark or question mark without having to switch to the symbol keyboard...like holding down the key for a few seconds like on the standard HD2 keyboard?
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hi whats the swype kepboard? i have big probs typing im constantly doubling up the buttons or typing the wrong one.
Chivalryyyy said:
I only found out about swype last week and already my typing speed has quadrupled! not hard as I was pretty slow to begin with.. but its great to be able to type now at a normal speed on my phone ... just one thing... is there a fast way to get icons like exclamation mark or question mark without having to switch to the symbol keyboard...like holding down the key for a few seconds like on the standard HD2 keyboard?
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There are a few fast shortcuts, check out vid here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l64Twt1qlVg&feature=related
its meant for the omnia but on the HD2, same thing. For something like an exclamation mark, just press the Z key and drag down to the spacebar then release.
Also holding they key is supposed to work but i find this feature hit and miss, it doesnt always work but not sure why.
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I liked the one where you could write anywhere. I prefer to not have the keyboard visuals taking up screen space
SWYPE! I love Swype. I've always been a hardware-qwerty guy. I tried the Swype beta on my Droid and loved it. I was on the fence about switching to the HD2, purely because of the lack of a keyboard...until I heard it had Swype. Then it was a done deal.
However, Swype is not great for web browsing and other things that require exact character combos that may not be words, without spaces and all that. I switch to full QWERTY for that.
Swype baby.
dadu said:
std qwerty suffice but I would love to have grafiti2 or block recognizer (if possible)
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5594168&postcount=1
Block Recognizer:
HKCR\CLSID\{42429691-ae04-11d0-a4f8-00aa00a749b9}\IsSIPInputMethod\Default = 1
HKLM\Software\HTC\ezsip\SIPMenuEnableMSSIP\Default = 1
Lately I have been using Touchpal.
Starting to get the hang of it and think it will be a keeper.