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QTEK 9000: Answering Problem (Bug)???

Hi guys,
i have a newly bought qtek 9000 and I don't know if its broken. Here the problems:
- when the phone rings the ringtone doesn't play fluidly. Sometimes it hangs as if "there where some scratches in the CD"
- when the phone was quite a long time in standby and I answer the phone, the caller doesn't hear anything that I am saying for about 1 or 2 sec.
- when i eject the sd card the phone reboots.
Are these known bugs or is the phone broken.
thanks in advance

I have the same problem, missed a couple of phone calls because of that.
- It seems there is a delay of 2-3 rings before you actually hear the ringtone when the Exec is in standby mode.
- Also I noticed that it takes significantly longer to display the photo you've just taken in the camera mode.
Thinking to revert back to O2 corp. mode.

well actually I'm answering almost immediatly. The problem is that the other person doesn't hear anything I'm saying. The connection althought is already established.

Does anybody have a solution for this bug. Is there a registry tweak? Or an rom update? This is really an annoying bug.

did you install other software?
if so witch one

Actually not, just Agenda Fusion.
Actually this seems to be minimized if using GPS instead of UMTS.
If I have made a soft reset before and I'm using GPS I can answer immediatly. If I'm using an UMTS connection instead, I have to wait for about 2-3 seconds to begin talking.

Try to disable PowerSave, just use the closing of the camshell to powerdown the Universal. This is what I had to do to make sure I did not miss calls with my Exec in Corp mode (original ROM).

ping79 said:
Actually not, just Agenda Fusion.
Actually this seems to be minimized if using GPS instead of UMTS.
If I have made a soft reset before and I'm using GPS I can answer immediatly. If I'm using an UMTS connection instead, I have to wait for about 2-3 seconds to begin talking.
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I think you mean GPRS, not GPS. I also have a Qtek9000 and don't seem to get this problem, have you tried hard resetting and installing nothing and see if the problem is still there? Or as you say it only happens when you are "using" UMTS, does this mean you are surfing the web while you get the phone call that has the delay?
Just curious as I hope I don't have the same bug, too.

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Hi guys,
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- when i eject the sd card the phone reboots.
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That is totally not suppose to happen. Do you mean your whole device soft-resets? Or the phone application? Either way, sounds really strange!

well, actually the whole device reboots.
Someone told me it depends on the apps that are installed on the card, but I'd still hadn't any time to check whether it doesn't happen with an empty card. As soon as I do that I will post my achievement.

SPB Pocket Plus
I used to have my device always HARD RESET when I tried installing SPB Pocket Plus in Memory Card. Et even hard resets my ipaq h6340 when I install it in the FileStore.
Jorge

Warning: Hacks for DLL on SD may cause 10sec powerup delay

Guys,
This foxed me for a few days and is worth keeping an eye out for.
Following I'll explain the issue, then show you how to test if you have this 'bug'. It's worth checking if you're an avid tweaker!
Explanation
There are several hacks/tweaks that move DLL's to the SD to give u some ROM space. The Opera cache hack is the one that floored me. They typically involve editing the registry so that the EXE and DLL search path is appended to include the SD card (usually \storage card\DLLs).
The issue
With these hacks, you may (ie I definitely did, and I definitely solved it by correcting this) find a 5 to 10 second delay 10% of the time that you turn on your device. This manifests as a real issue in several ways:
When you turn on, screen stays blank so you press power key again and screen flashes on then off, so you press again and finally you're in. Particuarly evident if you run WisBarAdvanced2 which is clearly looking around for DLLs
When you call up the dial pad, your keypresses take several seconds to respond
When receiving a call there is a long delay before your phone starts to ring. Even tho you answer ont he first ring calling party says "where you on the jazz or something?"
When making a call you get "dialing..." and the other party is actually connected and listening to you swearing about what a piece of sh1t your JasJar is cos it won't connect (actually, this may be a problem over and above the issue covered here - anyone else experienced this?)
Testing whether you have this issue
Go to phone app
Turn off JJ for 1 full second
Turn on and immediately press a number key
Did it take 10 seconds to respond?
Repeat 10 times, problem will hit me at least 8x within 10
If you find a delay, repeat whole test without SD card. Here I find that I get the problem once, but not thereafter. It's like the JJ needs to find out that the SD card is not there, and then it doesn't do this 10sec checking delay again.
The phone pad is simply a test that can work on all setups, and seems to have an over 50% success (failure?) rate.
Let me know if this helped you. Perhaps I had a unique situaiton such as the Opera cache hack combines with WA2?
Edit: Since fixing this, and one other issue, my JJ performs awesomely! The second issue is trning off UMTS until I need it. HATE that cos in ZA we have awesome 3G coverage, and I don't mind the cost. However, issue is that where there is a weak UMTS signal, JJ latches on and then becomes very unreliable in making/receiving calls (much like the old days of poor GSM coverage). Remember these devices nee to be in UMTS OR GSM mode - they do not run both at the same time.

Microphone stops when I hit a numberkey if I'm calling an interactive menu system!

Ok, this is a real doozy.
This happened on my original Hermes, and now it's happening on my (three day old!) new one too (just tried to Ring Areti Internet to speak to someone on behalf of one of my clients, and the moment I pressed 0 to speak to someone the microphone seems to just cut out).
The root of the problem is: I can ring a number, whatever, and if I get to a menu system, I tap in the appropriate number to navigate through the system. However, the moment I do so, when I do eventually get through to someone they can't hear me. I can hear them fine, but my microphone has totally cut out - and even trying things like hitting mute / unmute makes no difference.
If I don't press a button, and either hang on until the menu system just puts me through to someone, the mic works fine. The worst thing about this problem is that it's unpredictable; it can happen all the time or it can just happen every so often, and there's no visual or audio indicators to say otherwise that the problem is occurring.
My two Hermes models are quite vastly different in model: the old one was an HT634 and this one is a 643, so the question of the problem being a hardware one spread across several models doesn't apply. This is REALLY ANNOYING, not only does it piss off the person on the other end but if you're stuck in a queue waiting to speak to someone for 20+ minutes, finally getting through and finding that you can't be heard is TOTALLY ANNOYING!
What's even more confusing is this: I thought it might be a permanent problem, so I tried ringing my home phone, then getting my friend to make like an interactive menu system and just say "press 1 to test this, press 2 to confirm that this is a really stupid thing I'm having to do for you, press 3 to confirm that you don't mind me hitting you after we're done testing this idea of yours"... You get the idea. I pressed a button (more than one in fact, the second time I tried it), waited the appopriate length of time that it would take in the real world to get connected, and started speaking - and the person on the landline could hear me fine.
The problem was also present (and intermittent) on my first Hermes, but it was unpredictable. I'm not in a great 3G signal area, and as I look at my phone at the moment it's gone back to GPRS. I also noticed on the MoDaCo forums that some people in London were suffering from problems where they couldn't hear callers, but the person at the other end could hear them fine (they suppose, as they weren't hung up on even though they couldn't hear their caller) - they had to force their phone back to 2G to resolve the problem. However, my microphone doesn't cut out during normal phone usage, so it's just really bugging me that I can't figure out why the hell this is happening!
My Hermes is pretty much stock: T-Mobile ROM, nothing cooked or patched, I just have the odd little bunch of harmless utilities installed: a screen cap application, Map24 Mobile, Microsoft Reader, Media Metrics Meter (usage tracker, you get paid £5 a month for submitting your stats to them so it pays for the Web 'n Walk), Opera Mobile, TCPMP, SMSDRFix, Vibra Switch, WM5NewMenu and Total Commander... They're the only significant additions.
This is driving me nuts! I never had this problem on my old Alpine, though granted it was on O2. I've even had this problem when calling the T-Mobile support line! Which as you can imagine is MOST frustrating.
Anybody have even the faintest idea as to how to solve this problem? It SEVERELY hinders my ability to ring any kind of helpline or support / sales line... And until I found an alternative (direct dial) number to get through to T-Mobile Customer Services, I wasn't even able to ring them!

had exactly the same problem with a Vario II. I couldn't set up my voicemail!
Exchanged unit for a new one and now works fine. No problems so far

flashflash said:
had exactly the same problem with a Vario II. I couldn't set up my voicemail!
Exchanged unit for a new one and now works fine. No problems so far
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Argh... It took me long enough to get this replacement!!! Vario 2s are like golddust at the moment.
What model number is your new unit? Mine is an HT643 (first one was a 634)...

Phone freezing

Hi,
I have a big problem with my Tytn (sorry if this is already been posted). Quite often the phone freezes, making it impossible to turn on again. The only thing that works is a soft-reset. What is worse, is that when the phone is in this state, although the green light is regularly flashing, it is unable to get phone calls even if the caller gets the normal ringing signal. No trace is left of the call, neither in calls list! This is a really serious issue: please, let me know if you have an idea of how to solve the problem.
Thanks!

I am having the same issue. I haven't been able to isolate it. I was havign to0 restart 1-2 times a day. Same systems press the power button nothing. Lights blinking everything looks ok. but nothing on the screen. and i miss calls. really pain in the ass. I loaded mobile secretary and it hasn;t locked in a day or two which is odd.
I also sometimes have to rpess the power button two times for it to wake

me too
It's happening to me too. I will lose service and the phone doesn't go out and poll automatically when service should be good. It may show 1, 2, 3 bars then when I try to make a call it hangs, and then get an x and a Y!, then searches for service. I have the GSM only hack installed and the activesync workaround and it still does this. It is not useable as a phone.

do a search in this forum.
one relevant thread here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=285974

With all due respect, there is no solution where the link leads to.
I am having the GSM problem also. Just from time to time I am noticing an exclamation mark near the 'antennae' icon in the top bar. When I tap it, I read 'Service unavailable' in the balloon. From that point I may either soft-reset, or switch GSM flight mode on and off, which brings the PIN code keyboard and the phone works again.
I really don't think it is related to power saving, as it happened a few times in the car with TyTN on external power.

mnez said:
With all due respect, there is no solution where the link leads to.
I am having the GSM problem also. Just from time to time I am noticing an exclamation mark near the 'antennae' icon in the top bar. When I tap it, I read 'Service unavailable' in the balloon. From that point I may either soft-reset, or switch GSM flight mode on and off, which brings the PIN code keyboard and the phone works again.
I really don't think it is related to power saving, as it happened a few times in the car with TyTN on external power.
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I think warmkiwi's link may be relevant to jimwormold's original post, which may not be related to your and angled1's problem of failing to poll correctly after dropping it's signal.
Mike

yes, it was. sorry, i should have quoted the original author (jimwormold)

well, sorry for being so picky on you :|
Now when we have defragmented the conversation I wonder if the GSM problem is reported more widely? and what is supposed to do in order to isolate the problem and fix it...?

jimwormold said:
Quite often the phone freezes, making it impossible to turn on again. The only thing that works is a soft-reset. What is worse, is that when the phone is in this state, although the green light is regularly flashing, it is unable to get phone calls
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Sorry to do a "me too" posting, but I experience the exact same symptoms. There is no obvious pattern to when this happens, but it is a major problem, as there is no way (other than trying to switch it on) to distinguish whether the phone is working or not at any given moment.
I am running the latest (South African) ROM on my Vario II.

Philip said:
Sorry to do a "me too" posting, but I experience the exact same symptoms. There is no obvious pattern to when this happens, but it is a major problem, as there is no way (other than trying to switch it on) to distinguish whether the phone is working or not at any given moment.
I am running the latest (South African) ROM on my Vario II.
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Given this thread now appears to have two distinct issues running together I better be clear that I am referring to the lock-up/freezing issue not the dropped GSM signal issue!!
To be honest there are quite a few possible causes for the freezing issue(s). I would suggest searches and the wiki on such things as (and you may or may not have tried some already):
1. Use of a Task Manager to properly shut running programmes otherwise they contiue to run in the background
2. Proper shutting down of Active Sync in addition to any task manager you may have, as it can re-start itself automatically (particularly overnight. Look for the "Fake Server Trick")
3. Always shut down Wifi when not in use (vital particularly overnight but also good practice to avoid lock ups)
4 For overnight and possibly other quiet times you can consider having your device automatically perform a soft reset to clear any running programmes that may block alarms/receipt of mail etc. Look for such things as xbar or SK schema
Mike

mikechannon said:
Given this thread now appears to have two distinct issues running together I better be clear that I am referring to the lock-up/freezing issue not the dropped GSM signal issue!!
1. Use of a Task Manager to properly shut running programmes otherwise they contiue to run in the background
2. Proper shutting down of Active Sync in addition to any task manager you may have, as it can re-start itself automatically (particularly overnight. Look for the "Fake Server Trick")
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Yes indeed, although I think that both: a Phone App problem, and a GSM signal problem, are indeed the same, maybe only differently percepted and described by users affected.
I need ActiveSync to be running in order for DirectPush to work. If it conflicts with the phone, it makes the device unusable concerning push email functionality.

mnez said:
Yes indeed, although I think that both: a Phone App problem, and a GSM signal problem, are indeed the same, maybe only differently percepted and described by users affected.
I need ActiveSync to be running in order to DirectPush work. If it conflicts with the phone, it makes the device unusable concerning push email functionality.
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I agree they may be cause and effect for some folks. Although I don't believe we can say that all the freezing and lock-ups are due to dropped GSM signal and freezing when failing to re-establish it. The items I list either taken together or individually have been found by others to work in some cases.
I appreciate that if you require Active Sync running then this is not a solution for you. I think the issue of crashing on loss of signal requires more analysis and I'm not aware of much discussion of it - though I could be wrong!!
Mike

I was fiddling with the phone yesterday and today, and I have a hypothesis that my problem is related to PIN entry screen that won't pop up but is silently awaiting a PIN underneath.
I was trying to ucheck the "Require PIN when phone is used" box in Settings but with no luck, my PIN is then refused with "Unknown SIM Error" message. Maybe it wants a PUK but I don't have it on hand to try.
My plan now is to:
- uninstall all Phone-related applications (PhonePlus, Dark_Blue Buttons, EZDial),
- request PUK from my office and try to uncheck the box,
- try prepaid SIM card which has no PIN
To observe symptoms I need two-three days, so I will rather not be posting until solid data is collected.
ps Mike, it is a pleasure to be on a board with people like you.

mnez said:
I was fiddling with the phone yesterday and today, and I have a hypothesis that my problem is related to PIN entry screen that won't pop up but is silently awaiting a PIN underneath.
I was trying to ucheck the "Require PIN when phone is used" box in Settings but with no luck, my PIN is then refused with "Unknown SIM Error" message. Maybe it wants a PUK but I don't have it on hand to try.
My plan now is to:
- uninstall all Phone-related applications (PhonePlus, Dark_Blue Buttons, EZDial),
- request PUK from my office and try to uncheck the box,
- try prepaid SIM card which has no PIN
To observe symptoms I need two-three days, so I will rather not be posting until solid data is collected.
ps Mike, it is a pleasure to be on a board with people like you.
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Very kind of you to say so
Look forward to seeing your findings.
Mike

new phone
I'm on day 2 of my replacement phone from Cingular and the problem with losing gsm signal is non existent. The problem was hardware and fixed by calling and getting a warranty replacement phone. I'll let you know if the problem returns. Oh, and I have not been using the gsm only hack. I'm trying to see if the phone will work as designed first.

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I'm on day 2 of my replacement phone from Cingular and the problem with losing gsm signal is non existent. The problem was hardware and fixed by calling and getting a warranty replacement phone. I'll let you know if the problem returns. Oh, and I have not been using the gsm only hack. I'm trying to see if the phone will work as designed first.
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Good news - hope it continues to work well.
Mike

I am reporting from the test field that my problem persists, despite uninstalling all phone-related extenders.
I have noticed that freezing is paired with disabling Bluetooth. So after switching the phone off (flight mode on) and back on (flight mode off), I also have to turn on Bluetooth.
EDIT: I was grounded for last few days at home and freezing problem was not occuring. I am now thinking that it may be related to switching band between GPRS and UMTS. My next step will be disabling UMTS for good. It saves a whole lotta battery, by the way. I am for the third day mostly on standby, with a few calls made, and I am still on 70%! (no 3G in the area)
I have contacted my vendor and asked about replacement policy, they are "checking this with the importer". It's a beauty of living in not-so-western country. Poland is the name.

mnez said:
EDIT: I was grounded for last few days at home and freezing problem was not occuring. I am now thinking that it may be related to switching band between GPRS and UMTS. My next step will be disabling UMTS for good. It saves a whole lotta battery, by the way. I am for the third day mostly on standby, with a few calls made, and I am still on 70%! (no 3G in the area)
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I'm having exactly the same problem, very annoying because the staus LEDs keep blinking as normal. I too think the problem is UMST-GPRS switching related, as I also have problems when phoning while I drive with my car from a UMTS enabled into a GPRS only zone. The voice call is interupted and I get a loud noise, sounding like a scrambled voice, on both sides of the connection. At home my UMTS signal is very weak, so I think it happens when I move around the house to a place where the TyTN switches to GPRS.
I've put my TyTN to "GSM network" only now to see if this helps, but I use UMTS frequently so this is no long term solution for me.
pbw

same problem here, only gsm wil not help, new sim cards wont help either even other provider wont help
check: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=287669
treid several different roms nothing will help
good luck

Hi,
mine was siffering of freezing issue, I sent a mail to HTC support, they don't know about it but the guy said me that I must to hard reset my device. Then no more freezes, I will keep testing it.
Regards,
Taguapire.
BTW: I changed my old and almost destroyed SIM card by a new one.

Instant Dropped calls on Cingular?

I keep getting calls that drop the second I hit the answer key. I'm using the latest Cingular based firmware for my 8525. Is anyone else experiencing this? I'm trying to determine if it is one of my installed apps or a problem with the phone itself. Thing is I have no apps that are meant to handle calls or VM so if other users are experiencing this please post.

I am not having this problem, 1st I've heard of anyone dropping calls instantly.
Were you located, I'm in chicago and know 4 other with the 8525 without any dropped calls.

NJ. I've been on the Cingular network for a few years now. I had an MPX220 before this.

In my opinion it may come from the magnet of the default case; give some try without it.

yeah, I've had it happen to me too. Interesdtingly, it didn't seem limited to my TyTN either. I had it on my 8125. Seems to happen most often when I answer using the softkeys instead of just pressing the green phone icon.

hmm. im not really sure which i answer the phone, both if im not wrong. I'll have to keep my eye out for that.

I was having a similar problem that turned out to be my case hitting the buttons as I pulled the phone out. I switched to a seidio clip case and it hasn't happened since.
there was a slight delay, so it actually disconnected about the time I hit the button. sometimes the call would answer instead of dropping, depending on which button was hit.

Same Problem on Vodafone
I bought 2 V1605s (tytn) 2 months ago for my business. I seem to have the exact same problem on both phones - about 20-30% of calls have this issue. Scenario is as follows:
Phone rings, after any amount of time Answer with either the green button or the soft keys and the call dies. The other party is routed to Voicemail at that time. While this problem is present I sometimes get a problem where I can't initiate a call - get an error that Cannont make an outgoing call due to lack of signal.
I have seen some suggestions that this (or similar problems) can happen when you are going into and out of coverage blackspots. My work and home areas both have blackspots, so it seems to fit with this.
Only solution I have found is a soft reset. I have tried the following:
- Set band selection to Manual - didn't work
- Set UMTS/GSM to GSM only - didn't work
- Do a hard reset (wiping data and other installed programs) - didn't work
- Make sure that all other applications are closed properly through task Manager (especially data-using ones) - Trying now - no results.
I'd appreciate any suggestions as I need this sorted - no matter how good this phone is as a PDA, I can't tolerate losing 30% of my incoming calls!

I've had similar issues. Last couple of days have been worse than others.
I am beginning to consider an alternate carrier -- the big V is better in and around NYC from what I understand