No voice dialer when device closed ? - Advantage X7500, MDA Ameo General

Hi all,
I just got a new athena ppc and I am a bit disappointed 'cause I was not able to make phonecalls when the ppc is closed neither using the button on the earphone or configuring an hardware button for the purpose. Is there anyway I can make the voice dialer pop-up while the device is closed in the pocket ? Thanks a lot.
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I am currently running the default WM6 ROM from HTC ITA.

That's odd. I'm using MSVC, and although I have to have the security settings a little lower than they're supposed to (i.e. I have it set so that MSVC can be triggered even when the device is locked), it's responsive via both the BT headset and the button. I wouldn't think that MS is doing anything unique there....

I dont have a problem activating the voice tags from my BT headphone with the device in standby.

Sorry, I did not mean in standby but closed like when you close the keyboard on it and the device displays the operator name and the signal strenght through the transparent strip.

I think it's just you, as I have been before and now using my X7501 closed without any problems with voice dial. Maybe it's your bluetooth settings or something. If I were you try to repair it and see if that helps. Oh btw I'm using a Jabra BT8010 the only thing is it's 2 clicks to activate voice dial due to the headset going into (stereo) mode. Hope this helps any and good luck.

smogdragon said:
Sorry, I did not mean in standby but closed like when you close the keyboard on it and the device displays the operator name and the signal strenght through the transparent strip.
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I should have clarified - when its in its belt holster, cover on and in stand by, it works fine. I know when the cover is on some of the buttons on the Athena are disabled, but it doesn't affect any control requests coming from my BT headset. Also to be sure I just did a test with the cover on and with the display on, and it worked again. I'm using the Jabra BT 8010 like many others here.

Well, I just tested the device again and either in standby or cover-on the default headset (the wired one that comes in the box) does not wake up the phone when pressing the "voice dialer" button on it. If you can confirm me this beahviour I'll go and buy a bluetooth one.
Thanks in advance.

I'll try to remember tonight, I tested the wired headset once when I opened the box and decided it wasn't comfortable in my ears. Its been in the box since.

Ok solved. It works great with a sony bluetooth headset, it is probably an issue of the wired headset that comes in the box.
Thanks to all

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Receiving a call when unit is cradled

Both my colleague and I use XDA2s and we work in the same office. Today, both of us have had incoming calls, while the unit is in its cradle. I took mine out of the cradle, checked who was calling and hit the green button. The call was answered (according to the display) but I could hear nothing. My colleague had exactly the same happen to him, from a different caller. Has anyone else had this, or is there a technique to answering a call when the XDA is in its cradle?
Hello,
I have had no problem answering calls from within the cradle -
I did exactly as you said - picked up the device from the cradle, but I pressed the "answer" button on the screen, all works fine for me.
Cheers
I have answered lots of times the same way with no problems, I've even put the unit on speakerphone... Very handy when cradled...
Did you use a headset before?
The following happend for me once:
I use the headset for listening music. Phone is ringing. I unplug the headset, because I have a poor quality Hama one, and in a loudy bus, the internal speaker of the PDA is better.
But I hear nothing. The only way to take a phone call, with the headset.
I think the PDA's headset connector switch was wrong. After I plug and unplug the headset many times, my wallaby worked. (The PDA felt the headset plugged, so switch off the speaker but the headset wasn't pluged. Soft reset did not help)
This is my story
Rayan said:
I have answered lots of times the same way with no problems, I've even put the unit on speakerphone... Very handy when cradled...
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Same thing with me, I answer lots of calls using the speakerphone while imate is on cridle... I have no problems at all.
GoldenSands said:
Same thing with me, I answer lots of calls using the speakerphone while imate is on cridle... I have no problems at all.
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There is a setting, to automatically switch on speakerphone when PDA in the cardle?
Thanks!
Thanks, everyone, for the feedback. Neither of us had used headphones, but we both have BT headsets, which we had used that morning - one's a Jabra BT200 and the other is a Bluetrek G2. I don't know whether that is relevant or not.
If anyone out there uses a BT headset and can tell me how they select a number from contacts and ring it so that the headset works - I'd like to know! Mine only seems to work if initiate the call from the headset.
(off topic, sorry) is there any way of getting the phone to answer calls/dial calls in hands free mode? or creating a profile that does so (ie when i am in car and xda is in a (non handsfree) cradle.
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andyb said:
Thanks, everyone, for the feedback. Neither of us had used headphones, but we both have BT headsets, which we had used that morning - one's a Jabra BT200 and the other is a Bluetrek G2. I don't know whether that is relevant or not.
If anyone out there uses a BT headset and can tell me how they select a number from contacts and ring it so that the headset works - I'd like to know! Mine only seems to work if initiate the call from the headset.
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have you tried turning off bluetooth headset from the today screen, that may cure your problem.
Sallala said:
There is a setting, to automatically switch on speakerphone when PDA in the cardle?
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I do not know if this feature is availble. I did a little search on my imate but did not find such a feature! but will be nice to have it!
The only option available is to asnwer received calls after certain rings!
it would be worth cheching how old the rom version is on your xda2 as there is an issue with the very early versions of the rom (1.03.00) for example. In this version nither the cell line or the gprs cant be connected while the XDA2 is in its cradle. current version should be 1.60.00.
hope this helps

BT reactivate alone after a call

Hi,
i noticed everytime i turn off bluetooth (in order to spare battery time) it reactivate itself alone after a call... is this normal ? does anybody else experience this problem ?
(ps : i have pocket bluetooth tools, but i don't think that s the problem... is it??)
Thanks for any help
It is, and its not a bug, its a feature Its so you can answer a call using your bluetooth headset.
If you dont have a headset its obviously useless to you, but PBT is not under development any more, so you kind of stuck with the way it works now, or to un-install it.
Surur
Ok. i just had to read in fact the guide http://www.bluetooth.jazztel.es/guide_e.html to see that it can turn it back to off if BT is not used after 60 seconds...that s a good idea
Too pity they stopped development, it helped me a lot in the set up of the BT for activesync via BT and for set up of BT GPS...
anyway, thanks for the hint. (it gave me the idea to look a little bit further
Have a nice day!
I use PBT and I use the 60 second feature. What I found with my o2 clip bt headset is that the headset seems to lose connection to the phone after a short while regardless of the 60sec rule. Sometimes it would happen just before receiving or dialing a number.
Very annoying.
Cheers
Anthony

BT voice dial while in standby

Voice dialing from bluetooth works fine while my K-Jam is on, but when it goes into standby mode it doesnt work. I press the button on the headset and I get the headset beep indicating it has connected, but I never hear the speed dail beep. If I bring the K-Jam out of standby mode, I can see the speed dial program is on teh screen, but it seems stuck. Maybe any ideas?
Thanks, John
All Wizards suffer from this; currently no known way around it, hopefully a update will cure this issue or someone will find a way.
A little more digging and I have seen where others have tried to find a work around. Here is what I am doing for now. I am turning off automatic standby and using the "device lock" to keep buttons from accidentally being pushed instead of putting it in standby by pushing the power button. I am not sure what the battery usage will be now, but I will test it for awhile and see. By the way, does anyone know how I can assign one of the hard buttons to device lock? Is there an exe somewhere or can someone point me to a registry entry for this?
Thanks
haven't found keylock yet, but found "power off"
may create a short cut in programs?
My Qtek does not have this problem.
I'm using voicedial from my bluetooth headset. It works perfect even when the phone is in standby mode! It wakes up and makes the call perfectly!! I have a Qtek 9100 and a SonyEricsson HBH-662.
same here with my dopod 838 and HBH-662 it seems to work nicely even if the device is in standby. Is this because of the headset?
::adit
No problem here either...
Dutch MDA Vario + HBH-662 headset - works like a charm standby or not.
By the way... why bother installing MS Voice when the Wizard comes with it's own voice dialing utility?
lisa1982 said:
By the way... why bother installing MS Voice when the Wizard comes with it's own voice dialing utility?
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Probably because MS Voice Command is based on speaker independent recognition. So, you don't record a voice tag for the few contacts you dial most often, you just say 'call <contact> at|on mobile|home|work' and it will try and recognise the contact from your entire list.
Also pretty cool for casually pressing the button and asking 'what appointments do I have today' and having the details and locations read out to you...
Dox
lisa1982
OEM voicedial does not allow you to dial by digits 5-5-5-1-2-3-4 etc OEM voice dial is limited to voice tags MS Voice Command allows you to dial any contact in you're list also the ability of MS VC to announce upcoming appointments etc.
There are more these are only a few examples.
Can you guys that are able to make BT calls from standbye mode post what rom etc you have installed?
Thanks, John
Question for all you guys with the SE HBH-662 headsets. Does the caller ID on the Headset work? Meaning when you get an incoming call does it scroll the phone number only or does it display the name of the contact (if you have them in your contacts)? And how is the battery life of the headset ? I've got a Motorola HS850 which I love but I'm having the same problem with voice dialling from Standby and am willing to buy another headset if it works.
Thanks.
Hi firas,
Only the number is displayed in a scrolling fashion and it has a good battery life. Highly recommended
I have the HBH-600 but dont think it would work any different with another headset. My K-Jam receives the signal, and beeps, but seems to get stuck after that. When I take it out of standbye after trying it, I see the voice app is open, but seems to be stuck. If another headset will fix the problem, I would gladly buy it.
John
techspy
My HBH-660 does the same thing as your's I may go ahead and get the HBH-662 and try it thogh, if it will fix the issue that would be great.
marka2k said:
All Wizards suffer from this; currently no known way around it, hopefully a update will cure this issue or someone will find a way.
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One method that does work is to use the "redial" function on your headset. On my HS850 it's press and hold the call button. The Wizard _will_ wake up and start dialling your last used number. Just tap the headset button again to cancel the call, and you're ready to use Voicedail.
Initiating a redial then cancelling it to get the phone to wake up is a work around but not a fix. I hope they resolve this or if the HBH-662 does work I wonder what the difference is?
marka2k said:
Initiating a redial then cancelling it to get the phone to wake up is a work around but not a fix.
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Thanks for your constructive input and for stating the obvious :roll: I was simply correcting your statement that there is "currently no known way around it" which is not true. All it takes is two extra button presses.
Tried my new Wizard last night with my old Plantronics M3000 bluethooth headset, Device was in stanby and when i pressed the button on the headst it woke up and voice dailed no problems.
I am using the standard T- Mobile roms with the MDA Vario as it is only a day old.
Hope this helps

Voice Command Over Bluetooth

Voice Command 1.6 seems to be a bit of a nightmare and i have given up on my hermes for now.
My trinity though is almost ok, the only thing that doesnt work is when i push the voice button on the headset the sound comes out the phone speaker.
If i use the button on the phone though the sound comes out the headset.
How can i change the action of the button on the bluetooth headset to do what the button on the device is doing.
Thanks all.
Rob.
rjefferis said:
If i use the button on the phone though the sound comes out the headset.
How can i change the action of the button on the bluetooth headset to do what the button on the device is doing.
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FYI I use a SonyEricsson stereo BT headset and I don't experience this problem.
Rjefferis, I experience the same problem as you.
I have a Jabra JX10 headset.
Confirmation voice always comes out of phone speaker, not headphone... and irritatingly, it takes microphone readings from the phone body too. Kind of defeating the idea of hands free voice dialling.
FuzzMunky said:
Rjefferis, I experience the same problem as you.
I have a Jabra JX10 headset.
Confirmation voice always comes out of phone speaker, not headphone... and irritatingly, it takes microphone readings from the phone body too. Kind of defeating the idea of hands free voice dialling.
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Yeah this seems to be the problem on the hermes too. On mine it works correctly if i use the voice dial button on the phone. So the button on the headset and the button on the phone must be calling slightly different functions. All i need to know is what reg key i have to edit to make the headset button do the same as the phone one.
Try yours to see whether it works using the phone button. I think maybe my a2dp is getting involved somewhere as well.
There is an option about Notifications and Bluetooth devices in the Voice command settings... does this solve you problem?
Not for me.
It is set to read only through handsfree. I havent got my headset here, so I will see what happens if I switch it to the opposite like rjefferis implied.
yeah i doesnt make a difference using the options in voice command.
I think maybe when i push the button on the phone it works through the a2dp to the headset which obviously it shouldnt be.
When i use a non stereo headset then i think it always comes out the phone no matter what.
There are a number of threads regarding this issue and some semi-working fixes to get initiating a voice call through a mono bluetooth headset.
The problem seems to be a difference in the trinity passing audio through the audio gateway using a mono bluetooth headset. Not sure if this is a problem with the implentation of Microsoft's bluetooth stack on the TyTn/Trinity but I'm assuming that's the case.
According to Microsoft's Voice Command site, they indicate that the TyTn (put the Trinity in the same situation) passes audio through the device speaker. They also make note that devices running Windows Mobile build prior to 15097.3.0.0 will pass announcements through the device speaker. This leads me to believe that Microsoft fixed audio to a mono bluetooth headset but I've seen lot's of messages from people running roms higher than this version who still have the problem so sounds like HTC hasn't implemented it.
I've sent emails to HTC who indicate that it's a 3rd party program and there is no guarentee they will fix it as it's a Microsoft problem. I haven't been able to get word from Microsoft if it is being fixed but from their website, seems both parties are passing the buck on this one.
Considering HTC's lack of commitment in releasing updates for their branded products and the delay, we probably won't see another rom after their first release for a while if any since they seem more committed to releasing new products increase their bottom line without keeping their current customers happy. So if it's not in their upcoming rom update and Microsoft isn't releasing a fix, we could be waiting a while. I'd recommend anyone who cares about this issue to send an email to HTC Support. You'll get the generic response but hopefully if enough people complain about it, a fix might fall into their update

Answer without using bluetooth device

If I have a bluetooth device connected to my XV-6800, is there a setting or something I can do that will allow me to answer the phone with the call button on the phone, but have it connect to the bluetooth device? Right now if I hit the call button, it only goes through the phones speaker as if the bluetooth device was not connected. For me to answer a call using the bluetooth device, I have to hit the button on the bluetooth device.
Thanks,
Jeff
That's really strange. I know that I don't have the same phone as you (I have touch Elf). I have noticed this. When I have my device connected to bluetooth headset or my handsfree car kit, I can still hit the green call button to anser the phone when I get a call and the call is still transmitted to my bluetooth. I can even still make a call by hitting the green call button, dialing the number and still all through bluetooth.
It sounds like your device is not associating properly with the bluetooth device. Go into your bluetooth settings and check to make sure that you are connected properly for hands free - Go to settings - bluetooth and click on your device to make sure that hands free is checked.
I have also noticed that on a rare occasion, my bluetooth does not connect properly and although paired, does not transmit and sound did come through phone when it shouldn't have. To fix this, I did a soft reset and all was good. It happened to me about three times since I bought the phone in Dec 2007.
hotrod101 said:
That's really strange. I know that I don't have the same phone as you (I have touch Elf). I have noticed this. When I have my device connected to bluetooth headset or my handsfree car kit, I can still hit the green call button to anser the phone when I get a call and the call is still transmitted to my bluetooth. I can even still make a call by hitting the green call button, dialing the number and still all through bluetooth.
It sounds like your device is not associating properly with the bluetooth device. Go into your bluetooth settings and check to make sure that you are connected properly for hands free - Go to settings - bluetooth and click on your device to make sure that hands free is checked.
I have also noticed that on a rare occasion, my bluetooth does not connect properly and although paired, does not transmit and sound did come through phone when it shouldn't have. To fix this, I did a soft reset and all was good. It happened to me about three times since I bought the phone in Dec 2007.
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The bluetooth is properly connected. When I make a call and hit the green call button, it does go through the bluetooth device. It is only when answering a call it does not go through the bluetooth device when I hit the green call button. Yes, very strange. Oh well, I was hoping somebody might have some insight.
Jeff
jeffgman said:
The bluetooth is properly connected. When I make a call and hit the green call button, it does go through the bluetooth device. It is only when answering a call it does not go through the bluetooth device when I hit the green call button. Yes, very strange. Oh well, I was hoping somebody might have some insight.
Jeff
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What radio and Windows ROM are you using? I know that some of the different ones fixed some BT issues. When my headset is connected it always goes to my headset no matter what I push. Sometimes I have it in my pocket and forget and then can't hear anything on the phone. I believe you can force it to go to your headset after answering the call though.
jambrose said:
What radio and Windows ROM are you using? I know that some of the different ones fixed some BT issues. When my headset is connected it always goes to my headset no matter what I push. Sometimes I have it in my pocket and forget and then can't hear anything on the phone. I believe you can force it to go to your headset after answering the call though.
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I am currently using DCD 3.2.6 with radio 3.37.75. To be honest I am not sure I have tried it with this combination. But, I have had the problem with a DCD rom, I just don't remember which radio.
My phone has always bypassed the bluetooth earpiece if I press the answer button on the phone and not the button on the earpiece. It did it from day one with the stock verizon rom and it still does it with my custom dcd rom.
I like the option of bypassing the earpiece to answer a call, especially in a crowd. Also I have the incoming calls announced thru the earpiece. This allows me to know who is calling without even looking at the phone or touching it to answer it thru the earpiece.
This is my insight on this. I hope this helps.
Are you using Voice Command? Is the sound very low?
tommvee said:
My phone has always bypassed the bluetooth earpiece if I press the answer button on the phone and not the button on the earpiece. It did it from day one with the stock verizon rom and it still does it with my custom dcd rom.
I like the option of bypassing the earpiece to answer a call, especially in a crowd. Also I have the incoming calls announced thru the earpiece. This allows me to know who is calling without even looking at the phone or touching it to answer it thru the earpiece.
This is my insight on this. I hope this helps.
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jeffgman said:
If I have a bluetooth device connected to my XV-6800, is there a setting or something I can do that will allow me to answer the phone with the call button on the phone, but have it connect to the bluetooth device? Right now if I hit the call button, it only goes through the phones speaker as if the bluetooth device was not connected. For me to answer a call using the bluetooth device, I have to hit the button on the bluetooth device.
Thanks,
Jeff
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Mine operates the same way. I don't beleive this is a "flaw", and may vary by type of bluetooth device being used. OP is looking for a way to override this setting / feature if anyone knows. Personally, I like the option of taking it on the phone for privacy reasons as my BT device is through the car speakers.
ande8150 said:
Mine operates the same way. I don't beleive this is a "flaw", and may vary by type of bluetooth device being used. OP is looking for a way to override this setting / feature if anyone knows. Personally, I like the option of taking it on the phone for privacy reasons as my BT device is through the car speakers.
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I agree, I don't necessarily think it is a flaw. I would prefer to have mine answer with the bluetooth if I hit the green call button. I was just wondering if there is a setting some where that I am overlooking to have it the way I would prefer.
I just tried it again with the DCD 3.2.6 and 3.37.75 radio. As has been mentioned above, it does not appear to be related to a rom or radio, it is a feature of the phone.
A friend of mine has an iphone, and when they get a phone with a bluetooth earpiece enabled, they get options on the screen which say answer, answer on phone, or ignore. Or something along those lines. I like having those options, but understand if it is not available on the 6800.
Thanks for all of the replies.
Jeff

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