Hello everyone,
found a strange program: lately my german O2 Xda Star aka Niki is closing programs by itself. It happens after different amounts of time and with different combination of programs running. Either its music stoping because The Core Player shuts down or 3rd Party Messenger like IM+ just gone. System programs like IE does not seem to be affected.
Any Ideas?
More Details about whats in my autostart if its important..
Thanx
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Open an application, for example, Internet Explorer and then close it.
Next, check out the applications running in memory:
Settings-> System-> Memory-> Running Programs
Internet Explorer is apparently still running in memory! Is this a known bug and if so, is there a work around as I would expect this to affect the performance.
Also note this happened before and after the ROM 1.60 Upgrade.
it's been like that from the first version of windows CE
i suppose that because of slow cpu and mem
and such ms believed that keeping the applications running
would inc the response time of the pda so they would not
seem slugish compared to palm and other pda os's
This is a Windows Mobile 2003 'feature' :roll:
There are programs available to close the program down completely.
I have my personal favourite, by far, and is completely free. I can't remember the name of it and I'm currently updating my ROM, but as soon as that's done, I'll look in ActiveSync and let you know.
chopper32uk said:
Open an application, for example, Internet Explorer and then close it.
Next, check out the applications running in memory:
Settings-> System-> Memory-> Running Programs
Internet Explorer is apparently still running in memory! Is this a known bug and if so, is there a work around as I would expect this to affect the performance.
Also note this happened before and after the ROM 1.60 Upgrade.
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Certainly one of the thing's that I've found since the recent XDAII ROM update is that closing apps down via the Tast Manager has caused the OS to crash out with the message 'A unhandled error has occurred in the shell.' type message (has only happened a couple of times). The only way forward from this is a soft reset.
Nutz
Hi,
How are you trying to exit the programs that this happens to ? It could be that instead of clicking what you think is the close button, you are actually clicking the Today Screen icon ?
As regards Task Managers, the best I have come across and use all the time is PocketNav. Here is a link for it.
http://www.scottandmichelle.net/scott/cestuff.html
This app allows you to see currently running programs and flip between them with ease. You can also close or close all programs from this menu too.
Hope this helps.
Rgds,
Rob.
WisBar Advance
http://www.lakeridgesoftware.com/wisbar
Highly recommended, very small memory footprint, very fast and highly customizable. Oh, and FREE. If you get it, make sure you download an XP skin. Don't use the bundled ones
EDIT: Just so you know, it doesn't officially support Phone Edition. To turn the phone on/off via the taskbar, you have to close WisBar to access the icon.
Rob_B said:
Hi,
How are you trying to exit the programs that this happens to ?
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I'm just using the O2 Active Task Manager (the little arrow on the bottom of the screen) that comes by default with the OS (haven't got round yet to installing a decent Task Manager - will check out the suggestions made here!).
Nutz
WisBar Advance is one of the better ones that I've used but I will not give PocketNav a go, as there is a HUGE problem with WisBar and the XDAII.
Once you recive a call and access a notification (missed call, SMS things like that). You will not be able to recive any calls after that, if you ring your XDAII from another phone it actualy rings on the other phone but the XDA II does not register the call at all (as though no call is even being placed!!!, no missed call, no error messages NOTHING!!!)
I loved WisBar untill I've narrowed the problem down of not reciving calls to uninstalling or exiting WisBar and doing a softreset and never had the problems again...
Most other task managers I've found seem to have problems with the Phone Edition, cannot hide the Phone ID Program, cant close the Phone after it has been opend, phone keeps ringing over and over a gain even though there is not incomming calls... all are a few problems I have found with other Task managers I've tried... I will give that PocketNav a go and see how it works with phone edition...
I have tested most task managers under Phone Edition and my conclusion is that SBP's Pocket Plus is THEone...
It actually let's you see the notification area just as it's meant to be and it let's you exclude applications so they don't close but minimize (perfect for IA_Caller_Id.exe)
Best regards,
Rayan
Do you know of any freeware ones that are worth while?
I have used pcoket PC devices from the Philip Velo1 and even before that. I have never faced memory loss like with the K-Jam. The device slows down with time but when I check the running programs list I see a full page list. As soon as I close them all the device performs well again.
Is there anyway of automatically clearing memory and closing running programs with the K-Jam (WM5) after say 2 or more programs running?
Hi.
What you need is to read http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=29863
and then install PocketPlus 3.0.1 . Problem solved
if you want to go fastter then read
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=30011
and do what it say's .
but like everything in life do yer research before you take a risk .
I did, and the results were great . 200% improvement in performance and useability.
Thanks for the response. By the way I have already removed the Antivirus software.
But how does the PocketPlus help?
By the way I have tried the latest PocketPlus and it still crushed my k-Jam on reset.
alman said:
Thanks for the response. By the way I have already removed the Antivirus software.
But how does the PocketPlus help?
By the way I have tried the latest PocketPlus and it still crushed my k-Jam on reset.
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Check to make sure you have version 3.0.3 of PocketPlus as my K-JAM crashed every time with 3.0.1. It wasnt until i downloaded 3.0.3 that i was able to boot normally. You could also disable the safe mode feature in Pocket Plus options before you reset which fixes the boot problem with earlier 3.x releases.
EDIT: SPB Software now has a note on the PocketPlus version history informing that the Wizard specific issues with safe mode have been fixed as of v3.0.4.
http://spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/pocketplus/history.html?en
Pocket Plus has a feature where you can change the behaviour of the close button [X] so it can close apps instead of minimise or even popup a menu with more options. Have a search of the forum here, and over at www.modaco.com as there is heaps of info about Pocket Plus and other options for closing / minimising apps (some of them are even free).
Regards,
Chris
SPB Pocket Plus !!
can you provide me a link where to freely download Pocket Plus 3.0.3 or 3.0.4 ??? i'd appreciate it ...
thanx in advance.
If you're buying PocketPlus just for the task/memory manager, have a look at the many free alternatives, e.g. WisBar Advance, VBar, MagicButton, Pocket Nav, GSPocketMagic etc etc. Several (e.g. MagicButton, GSPocketMagic) allow you to set exception lists so you get to choose what gets automatically closed instead of minimized.
That's the best way with the Wizard, as some apps need to be kept in memory due to the slow loading times from ROM, e.g. Calendar, Contacts and Messaging. For URLs, Google is your friend.
I actually prefer managing what's running in the memory manually. gives me a feeling of control. I usually leave some of the frequent apps running. stuff like calendar, phone, activesync, IE.
hola fellas...
I installed Oxios Memory on my Dopod 838 pro(HTC TyTN aka Hermes).. and vola the device started behaving weird!!
1. no more than one app works at a time. ie., no multi-tasking! say i have Mobile Excel open and i try to open file explorer.. darn thing... mobile excel closes automatically!
2. windows media player plays only first 5-6 seconds of the tracks in the list and simply skips to the next... again plays the new track for 5-6 seconds and skips to next...
as soon as i uninstalled it... the weird behaviour is gone!!
if any of the hermes users facing it plz do post. may be we can update the author of the program.
Yes u are right ! Me also experience the same thing. After remove oxios closeapps and hibernate all programs work fine until manually I close it.
Same here, been racking my brain about it :-/
Probably the way Oxios binds to memory?
The only way is only remain oxios hibernate and delete closeapps. Hibernate alone works fine.
Oxios CloseApp work very well for me...
1. no more than one app works at a time. ie., no multi-tasking! say i have Mobile Excel open and i try to open file explorer.. darn thing... mobile excel closes automatically!
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Yes, the software close the apps!!!! What is the problem?
Sorry for my english...
Hi, have recently installed manila2d onto my 6.1 hermes, and like it very much! However, i have two questions:
Is it normal for manila to close when I open Messenger or Opera, and just come with the 'start touchflo' screen and then close Messenger or Opera when I restart touchflo even though I have it set to minimize on x?
If this is normal, I don't think I will use touchflo, but like the messaging implementations. Is there a today plugin that provides that functionality?
Thanks in advance to anyone able to answer these questions!
Yes.It is normal.Opera uses a ot of ram,sometimes it will close all of your open apps to gain memory to run properly.Dont know about Messenger though.
Is it me or does the T-mobile Dash 3g randomly closes out of apps. I was in my Internet explorer and it juss closed out. It also does this when i recieve messages. Is it my setting or something because i cant uderstand whats doing this.
Mine too
I have the T Mobile Dash 3g unlocked with win 6.5, same thing started happening today...all apps closing after abiyt 10 seconds. Looking for the problem.
closing
this seems to be a win 6.5 issue, and possibly a problem with SPB software.
I foind this thread but there are others too:
I also found a reference to SK Tools which i also have installed. If I cant find a solution soon, I am going to reset the phone and start a clean slate
reset the phone
well i reinstalled win 6.5 and it was not so bad since i was near the beginning anyway and had all programs saved in one spot. I did not install SKTools this time, i did install SPB online, and so far so good, the apps are staying open.
BTW A GREAT free program is SMARTToolKit which will expand your soft keys and give you lots of quick options....works well.
Yup,it's not all apps, just seems to be IE only. And yes it wont stay open like all the other programs when phone goes to standby. Very annoying. FYI, I'm using 6.1
Dash 3G Apps minimizing
There are few threads on this issue. I have narrowed this down to some change in the registry. I will know which part of the reigstry shorty. After running one of many apps (SPB online, SPB radio, Wunder Radio, Pocket Tunes, SK Tools, even the native Bluetooth app) application windows will not stay open and apps minimze on their own after about 10 seconds. If i restore the registry the phone works fine again. Since this problem spans so many different apps and developers, it is a MS problem. MS may say it is the developers problem, either way someone needs to fix it./