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Programs Closing Automatic.on the MDAII

Is there a possibility tha the programs does not close by them selfs? It´s quite . When i use my Pocket Informant and I open another progremm it closes by it self.The same is with the TomTom Navigator and all other Programs.??? :twisted:

I wish I knew, when using tomtom on xda1, I can go to gps too see staus and then click ok and return to tomtom, with the xda2 once I click ok I find that tomtom is closed and I have to restart the program.

Yes and it´s really sucks

@ Mike
Check the number of running processes with Task Manager and use Mirror Button to really close programs.
You can download them in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=4350&highlight=
If you close a program with the OK button, it isn't really closed. And there is a limitation of 32 running processes in Windows Pocket PC. If you try to open more processes, you have a problem.
@ Cruisin: TomTom works perfect on my XDA II, also the GPS status.

I am having the same problem discussed here. I notice it particularly with Pocket Informant, since this is the program I use the most. I am running WM2003 on an SX56 (XDA1). I have the latest update, 5.01.
1. I have a program which instantly shows me all running programs and I monitor this regularly. I have a program where X closes the programs, but I periodically doublecheck. At any given time, the only things listed is "Device". So running programs is not an issue.
2. I monitor memory all the time. I try to keep Program memory at 60% or below. Even so, at worst, it will creep up to 75%. My storage memory is usually around 70%.
3. I soft reset routinely to activate a spacemaker program that I have.
At worst, a typical memory scenario for me is total MB free (both storage and memory) approximately 9 to 11 mb. (75% Memory, 70% Storage)
[at the current time I have over 10 mb free in program, and a little over 3 mb in storage. Pocket Informant is staying open at the moment]
Even with around 4 mb or so free in program memory, shouldn't Pocket Informant run okay?
In other words, at my very most used memory scenario , isn't it still theoretically enough to run programs?
Thanks for any input.

XDA II: Closed Applications Still Running In Memory

Open an application, for example, Internet Explorer and then close it.
Next, check out the applications running in memory:
Settings-> System-> Memory-> Running Programs
Internet Explorer is apparently still running in memory! Is this a known bug and if so, is there a work around as I would expect this to affect the performance.
Also note this happened before and after the ROM 1.60 Upgrade.

it's been like that from the first version of windows CE
i suppose that because of slow cpu and mem
and such ms believed that keeping the applications running
would inc the response time of the pda so they would not
seem slugish compared to palm and other pda os's

This is a Windows Mobile 2003 'feature' :roll:
There are programs available to close the program down completely.
I have my personal favourite, by far, and is completely free. I can't remember the name of it and I'm currently updating my ROM, but as soon as that's done, I'll look in ActiveSync and let you know.

chopper32uk said:
Open an application, for example, Internet Explorer and then close it.
Next, check out the applications running in memory:
Settings-> System-> Memory-> Running Programs
Internet Explorer is apparently still running in memory! Is this a known bug and if so, is there a work around as I would expect this to affect the performance.
Also note this happened before and after the ROM 1.60 Upgrade.
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Certainly one of the thing's that I've found since the recent XDAII ROM update is that closing apps down via the Tast Manager has caused the OS to crash out with the message 'A unhandled error has occurred in the shell.' type message (has only happened a couple of times). The only way forward from this is a soft reset.
Nutz

Hi,
How are you trying to exit the programs that this happens to ? It could be that instead of clicking what you think is the close button, you are actually clicking the Today Screen icon ?
As regards Task Managers, the best I have come across and use all the time is PocketNav. Here is a link for it.
http://www.scottandmichelle.net/scott/cestuff.html
This app allows you to see currently running programs and flip between them with ease. You can also close or close all programs from this menu too.
Hope this helps.
Rgds,
Rob.

WisBar Advance
http://www.lakeridgesoftware.com/wisbar
Highly recommended, very small memory footprint, very fast and highly customizable. Oh, and FREE. If you get it, make sure you download an XP skin. Don't use the bundled ones
EDIT: Just so you know, it doesn't officially support Phone Edition. To turn the phone on/off via the taskbar, you have to close WisBar to access the icon.

Rob_B said:
Hi,
How are you trying to exit the programs that this happens to ?
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I'm just using the O2 Active Task Manager (the little arrow on the bottom of the screen) that comes by default with the OS (haven't got round yet to installing a decent Task Manager - will check out the suggestions made here!).
Nutz

WisBar Advance is one of the better ones that I've used but I will not give PocketNav a go, as there is a HUGE problem with WisBar and the XDAII.
Once you recive a call and access a notification (missed call, SMS things like that). You will not be able to recive any calls after that, if you ring your XDAII from another phone it actualy rings on the other phone but the XDA II does not register the call at all (as though no call is even being placed!!!, no missed call, no error messages NOTHING!!!)
I loved WisBar untill I've narrowed the problem down of not reciving calls to uninstalling or exiting WisBar and doing a softreset and never had the problems again...
Most other task managers I've found seem to have problems with the Phone Edition, cannot hide the Phone ID Program, cant close the Phone after it has been opend, phone keeps ringing over and over a gain even though there is not incomming calls... all are a few problems I have found with other Task managers I've tried... I will give that PocketNav a go and see how it works with phone edition...

I have tested most task managers under Phone Edition and my conclusion is that SBP's Pocket Plus is THEone...
It actually let's you see the notification area just as it's meant to be and it let's you exclude applications so they don't close but minimize (perfect for IA_Caller_Id.exe)
Best regards,
Rayan

Do you know of any freeware ones that are worth while?

Extremely Slow

My K-jam after a hard reset works fine but when i install various programs and try to open them the response is extremely slow, for example when i press the start button it takes 5-7 seconds to open it.By the way all the programs are installed at the storage card.Any help???

have u really closed any other program/application after open it? this may happen if ur kjam's main memory is being used by lot of program. you can use vbar to really close every application u open and it's free.
p/s:i have no association with vbar whatsoever :lol:

hello
i think u install a programe that run at start up an interfer with the registry. check for these programmes. i was having the same problem but when i did my last hard reset i didn't install spb which have a lot of abilities but it slow the magician alot

program memory keeps filling up

i am having a problem with my O2 exec, i have the latest rom update and i am running pocket weather and batti monitor. After normal use of my pda the program memory will drop from 20ish to about 6.
This is causing some programs to crash and is annoying me, i am closing all running programs in program manager but this dosn't seem to help.
Is there any way to free up program memory without reseting?
Cheers, James.

Try Oxios Memory: http://www.oxios.com/memory/
It is free and works great for the Universal. I also have SPB Backup installed and set to do automatic backups at 5 AM everyday followed by a automatic soft reset. This assures me my data is safe and I wouldn't run out of memory for the day. Just a suggestion on my part.

Which version of Pocket Weather are you using? I heard the earlier versions caused a memory leak with some of the ROMs. You should try uninstalling Pocket Weather for a week or so and see if that helps.

Not saving changes.

I installed a couple of programs over the last couple of days, Spb Weather and Launch Manager and when changing the setting or configuration the programs shut down and nothing changes??
Everything else is working on my wizard, has anybody else experienced this?
Both programs were installed on the storage card.
Spb weather has worked on my wizard before with no problems.

Ixtana_ran said:
I installed a couple of programs over the last couple of days, Spb Weather and Launch Manager and when changing the setting or configuration the programs shut down and nothing changes??
Everything else is working on my wizard, has anybody else experienced this?
Both programs were installed on the storage card.
Spb weather has worked on my wizard before with no problems.
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Hi Ixtana_ran, I developed Fantastic Bytes Launch Manager...
Could you describe the problem in more detail?
How much free memory and storage space do you have?
Are you running Windows Mobile 5 or 6?
Very strange... and I have tested Launch Manager on a Wizard before.

Hi Carolos, no need to worry the problem is with me mostly.
When adding new pages & shortcuts I was pressing the OK button top right of screen and nothing was saving? I have since found out that if I hold the right softkey it saves OK.
This is probably a side effect of task manager or what ever program I use to shut down programs instead of minimizing (not sure of its name,Doh).
Enjoying using your app, hoping it will allow me to get rid of SPB mobile Shell, Phone Suite to try and free some resources.

Ixtana_ran said:
Enjoying using your app, hoping it will allow me to get rid of SPB mobile Shell, Phone Suite to try and free some resources.
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No problem
Great to hear you are enjoying Launch Manager.