Hi,
I had a quick search but my problem persists, and please forgive me if this is silly, but I'm new to this Windows Mobile Stuff!
I'm trying to get Vodafone Live working on my Exec. I can get to the Vodafone Live homepage but it is text only, there are no photos or any 3G native content/options like video downloads.
I have set my access point as "internet" and username/password fields as "wap" but still no joy. What am I missing?
I know there is a CAB file on the i-mate website with the settings but cause I have the Exec I can't download it, please help!!!!!!
Unfortunately I don't think this can be done.
As with users who converted the v800 into the z800 even with the correct settings Vodafone live no longer recognises the device as 3g-live capable.
They use the HTTP user agent string to tailor the page to the device and if that changes (which it did V800->Z800) to one not currently used by a vodafone supplied device then the basic WAP style plaintext site is offered.
There's no way to spoof the user agent, don't forget the VPA IV isn't out yet, and even when it does arrive the user agent will likely be tweaked by the bespoke firmware, so even then you'll need to flash it with the horrid Vodafone red styling to see the correct Live site...
Incidentally, all you need to do to set up Vodafone 3G is use the APN name 'Internet' - the username and password fields are redundant, they can see the device is on their network and from the HLR I believe will already know you've access to 3G services so you just need to specify which APN you're looking to use.
I have a JJ and a 3G Vodafone SIM. The .cab files are just for the APN setup etc and like you I cant get the Vodafone content. It must have a URL but its not the default Live favorite on my JJ
No, it's the fact that the device passes a string to the webserver containing the identity of the user agent, and Vodafone don't sell a jasjar or an Exec, so don't have pages tailored for it.
Is this situation likely to change when the VDA IV get released?
if the VPA IV has a different user agent string then only if you use the voda firmware or someone works out how to customise them to that degree, otherwise no.
I HAVE XDA EXEC Working On Vodafone 3G & GRPRS
I have this working on my XDA EXEC.
Make Sure your phone is unlocked for Vodafone
Sim.
The access point is "internet" as you said, however the username and password are both "web" not "wap". Leave everything else as default.
tried your suggestion - no luck. i think the APN is for contract vodafone customers. PAYG has a diferent APN.
anyway, when you say it words, are you getting the full live! screens? i can only see the text (very wap looking) screens, and no links to entertainment, which i can see if i use my nokia 6330.
At least the following works for me, so that you may test youself.
The following registry value
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\OEM\PhoneSetting]
"ONSDisplayRule"=dword
determines whether the phone shows operator's name looking in its own data base (0), or as SIM card reported (1). If you have UMTS, you may also check other values under this key.
If ONSDisplayRule=0, you can redefine the operator's name by creating a string value under
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\RIL\OperatorNames]
The name of the value is 5 digits "CCCOO", where CCC is 3-digits country code, and OO is 2-digits operator's code. For example:
"25099"="BEE LINE"
This way you may fully customize the text that is shown for a particular operator.
Moreover, for my dual-SIM adaptor, when I switch between SIMs, the phone with default settings showed always one and the same name, until I reboot the device. Then, it was not able to retrieve operator's name from one of the SIM cards I use. Probably it is an adaptor fault... But anyway, after I changed ONSDisplayRule to 0 and set more up-to-date names for operators that I use, I now always see the name of the operator of the chosen SIM.
Hi
I've been trying to change the user-agent for PIE on my JasJam flashed with an AKU 3.3 ROM (South African Qtek).
On the previous version (AKU 2.2) I would be able to change the user agent by changing those keys in the registry:
for example:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Internet Settings\5.0\User Agent\Templates\Same as Pocket PC]
"Platform"="Windows CE; i-mate JASJAM V2 PPC; 240x320"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Internet Settings\5.0\User Agent\Post Platform]
"i-mate JASJAM V2 PPC; 240x320"=""
This doesn't seem to work anymore, user-agent (as checked with www.useragentstring.com) always return:
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows CE; IEMobile 6.8)
I've tried locating all occurences for Mozilla/4.0 in the registry, change them but with no effect.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Cheers
JY
Funny on how you could search for hours, and it's only a few minutes after you post a question that you find the answer:
The user-agent string in AKU 3.3 is located at
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Security\Internet Explorer\User Agent]
"Custom"="PPC; 240x320; HTC_TyTN/1.0 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1"
What were you trying to do by changing the UA? AKU 3.3+ doesn't send the changed UA anymore.
We had been discussing this in several threads already, but the solution created some problems with SMS/e-mail or Favorites in PIE.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=294014&highlight=agent
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=297937&highlight=agent
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=297289&highlight=cingular+video
chenga said:
What were you trying to do by changing the UA? AKU 3.3+ doesn't send the changed UA anymore.
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Without the proper user-agent (so it reports to be an i-mate JasJam), I can not use the wap web site from my mobile company (Telstra).
AKU 3.3 certainly do not use the same registry keys as earlier version, but I was able to modify the user-agent as mentioned in my previous post.
I will see if it creates problem with SMS as you mentioned.
JY
No problem with SMS after changing that registry key
It works fine...
And I get exactly the user-agent I want.
I'm surprised this wasn't found earlier...
JY
What did you change the UA to?
I tried your registry setting, but it did not work with Cingular Video (changing to LG-CU500). The fix that I was talking about replaced two files. That fix is still buggy, but allows Cingular Video and the Planet3 equivalent in Europe to work.
chenga said:
What did you change the UA to?
I tried your registry setting, but it did not work with Cingular Video (changing to LG-CU500).
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In [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Security\Internet Explorer\User Agent]
I changed:
"Custom"="PPC; 240x320; HTC_TyTN/1.0 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1"
into:
"Custom"="i-mate JASJAM V2 PPC; 240x320; HTC_TyTN/1.0 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1"
As the JASJAM V2 bit is what is being checked by the telstra wap site.
I don't know what you need to change it into so it works on your network.
You can control which user-agent is sent with this web site: http://www.useragentstring.com
Make sure after changing the registry that you kill IE, so it will reload the registry content
Ah, ok. We have different needs then. To get the videos from Planet3 and Cingular working, we need to change the Mozilla/4.0 part, not the stuff after that.
chenga said:
Ah, ok. We have different needs then. To get the videos from Planet3 and Cingular working, we need to change the Mozilla/4.0 part, not the stuff after that.
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I think it would be worth playing with that key though, because it definitely has an effect on the user-agent string used by IE...
JY
If you want to change the User Agent String for AKU3.3+ or WM6 you have to edit the browser.dll from Windows directory on Hermes. You must take a dumped browser.dll, because the file can't be copied outside Windows-dir.
Open browser.dll with Hex Editor and search for Mozilla/4.0
You can change Mozilla/4.0 into anything else you want,
e.g.
Mozilla/4.0 (11 signs) into
Palm750/v000 (11 signs)
It won't work for some reason if more signs added, but maybe somebody knows what i do wrong.
[I once changed the things after Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 4.1;...) and then the Registry Setting worked again in HKLM\Security\Internet Explorer\User Agent\Custom and this Registry Setting replaces the User Agent in the browser.dll (maybe the %d after Mozilla/4.0? causes the fixed User Agent sending from browser.dll??). But no access with correct sent User Agent from registry. Strange. With Hex-Editor-Mod it lets me access, with exactly the same User Agent prooved with www.fiddlertool/useragent.aspx ]
Works fine then (tested on Hermes)
I added a dumped browser.dll in browser.zip, but i can't say if it will work on your ROM too. If not, simply delete it again, it will be replaced with original browser.dll from ROM.
For all 3 Austria Users with AKU3.3 or WM6 installed: Simply copy the file from browserUA-3AT 240x320.zip to Windows-directory.
No need to change registry anymore.
Planet3-Link: [B] http://mobile.drei.at/hb/homebase/Grid [/B] UPDATE: Use This URL, others have probs with opening the Streaming Player.
PAPPL said:
If you want to change the User Agent String for AKU3.3+ or WM6 you have to edit the browser.dll from Windows directory on Hermes. You must take a dumped browser.dll, because the file can't be copied outside Windows-dir.
Open browser.dll with Hex Editor and search for Mozilla/4.0
You can change Mozilla/4.0 into anything else you want,
e.g.
Mozilla/4.0 (11 signs) into
Palm750/v000 (11 signs)
It won't work for some reason if more signs added, but maybe somebody knows what i do wrong.
Works fine then.
I added a dumped browser.dll in browser.zip, but i can't say if it will work on your ROM too. If not, simply delete it again, it will be replaced with original browser.dll from ROM.
For all 3Austria Users: Simply copy the file from browserUA-3AT.zip to Windows-directory.
No need to change registry anymore.
Planet3-Link: http://mobile.drei.at/hb/homebase/Hutchkey
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great to here good job, thanks
Nice work, PAPPL! Thank you
Here is the CAB for the Browser.dll for Cingular Video to work in PIE in WM6 or WM5 Aku 3 ROMs. It reports UA of LG-CU500. Blackjack or Samsung A707 UA strings (the other very popular CV devices) have UA's that are longer than 11 digits so the HEx edit wont work.
Also here is a RealPlayer CAB with the browser UA fix autoinstall!
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Here is the CAB for the Browser.dll for Cingular Video to work in PIE in WM6 or WM5 Aku 3 ROMs
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so this will make the browser report correctly for pda sites (as apposed to crappy text only ones due to a weird user agent)??
wpbear said:
Here is the CAB for the Browser.dll for Cingular Video to work in PIE in WM6 or WM5 Aku 3 ROMs. It reports UA of LG-CU500. Blackjack or Samsung A707 UA strings (the other very popular CV devices) have UA's that are longer than 11 digits so the HEx edit wont work.
Also here is a RealPlayer CAB with the browser UA fix autoinstall!
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Thanks for the RealPlayer!
Curious. Tried the wpbear cabs on my factory unlocked HTC branded Trinity P3600 (I know this is a Hermes thread, so please excuse me crashing in. Thought the phones might be similar enough this could get me Cingular Video). Followed the intructions exactly. Strangely, after installation I could no longer even launch Pocket IE. Got a message saying application had the wrong signature or something similar. It was easy enough to uninstall the cabs so it didn't hurt to try. Even aside from this I am have been a bit puzzled that I can't get to the MEdia Net home page, not that this is any great loss. I assume it suggests my phone is not set up to play with the wap.cingular proxy fully. My Internet access seems unrestricted however which is the main thing!
The proxy is wireless.cingular.com:80 ! wap.cingular is the access point (AP). If you have wap.cingular as the proxy, you will not be able to use the Cingular medianet/video pages.
chenga said:
The proxy is wireless.cingular.com:80 ! wap.cingular is the access point (AP). If you have wap.cingular as the proxy, you will not be able to use the Cingular medianet/video pages.
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Thank you so much chenga! Finally I have the proxy set up right to get at the MEdia Net home page. Actually, I had seen those settings mentioned before but I had quite figured out how to enter them correctly until now.
The main problem was probably just my stupidity and ignorance, but I have also come up with a feasible sounding explantation as to why I got confused so I can try to feel less silly!
In case this helps anyone else, the thing that had truly been throwing me off is in my the Connections preferences there are are two sets of preferences as per Windows Mobile default. One has the default name "My ISP" and the other is "My Work Network".
The "My Work Network" is the one which has the option to enter the proxy and well as an APN (It also has the VPN settings options, although that is not applicable in this instance) I think my confusion is because I just switched to Cingy from T-Mo and with them the "My Work Network" settings would probably (I think..but may be wrong) only be used if you had a business plan and need to VPN in past your workplace firewall to get at an Enterprise server of some variety or other (No longer needed with Direct Push over http though)
The "My ISP" settings area has no option to enter a proxy (at least on my device). Solution, use "My Work Network" set it all up as needed and rename it to something relevent e.g. Cingular Proxy.
I suppose I was also thinking way back to my old, old Palm OS Treo days when any proxy option was accessed through its web browser.
I notice that the while use the proxy adds the MEdia Net specific features, it appears from my cursory testing to block SMTP, POP and IMAP. Curiously, it does allow transfers using an FTP client.
Still this is great. I can still use wap.cingular without a proxy for the most part and then just change the connection to use the proxy to get at MEdia Net stuff when desired. Best of both worlds really. Thanks again!
Sorry to bump the thread. I was examing the settings in the Cingular WAP Setup CAB (link earlier in thread) and noticed that it changes the DNS servers to those offered by the free OpenDNS service.
(For anyone new to DNS, it is the way that a human readable Internet address e.g. www.example.com. gets turned into an actual numercial address which a device can really use to find something on the Internet.)
Nothing wrong with that, but it worth noting as that comes down to personal taste. One can always change the DNS servers in the Connection settings at any time. Leave them blank to use Cingular's DNS servers.
My limited experience of the OpenDNS servers is that they are very fast, though can occaisionaly be a bit inconsisitent. They do also filter addresses, mostly in a helpful. e.g. they try to correct obvious typos into a real address (like changing example.coooommmm into example.com) and they also block known phishing sites (fake sites that try to steal personal information). If you type in a web address that cannot be found the OpenDNS server will present you with a suggestions page along with some sponsored links. Doesn't seem to be anything underhand, the page clearly declares itself. But if you use the CAB above and didn't happen to know about OpenDNS you might end up wondering why you end up looking at their page occaisionally.
Edit: Oops, silly me. The post with the originally CAB did already say it uses the OpenDNS servers. (Yes, I know, it really is about time I learned to fully read everything before I post!) Still, perhaps the extra extra details may be helpful to someone anyway.
flamingcrumb said:
Sorry to bump the thread. I was examing the settings in the Cingular WAP Setup CAB (link earlier in thread) and noticed that it changes the DNS servers to those offered by the free OpenDNS service.
(For anyone new to DNS, it is the way that a human readable Internet address e.g. www.example.com. gets turned into an actual numercial address which a device can really use to find something on the Internet.)
Nothing wrong with that, but it worth noting as that comes down to personal taste. One can always change the DNS servers in the Connection settings at any time. Leave them blank to use Cingular's DNS servers.
My limited experience of the OpenDNS servers is that they are very fast, though can occaisionaly be a bit inconsisitent. They do also filter addresses, mostly in a helpful. e.g. they try to correct obvious typos into a real address (like changing example.coooommmm into example.com) and they also block known phishing sites (fake sites that try to steal personal information). If you type in a web address that cannot be found the OpenDNS server will present you with a suggestions page along with some sponsored links. Doesn't seem to be anything underhand, the page clearly declares itself. But if you use the CAB above and didn't happen to know about OpenDNS you might end up wondering why you end up looking at their page occaisionally.
Edit: Oops, silly me. The post with the originally CAB did already say it uses the OpenDNS servers. (Yes, I know, it really is about time I learned to fully read everything before I post!) Still, perhaps the extra extra details may be helpful to someone anyway.
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True, that was stated when I posted that cab. If you are on Cingular you really need a better DNS, theirs suck.
I have seen many posts but have not been able to get this to work. I have modified the line to be Nokia6800 or Nokia6300 but all I get when it is connected is the words locating at the bottom of PIE? Has anyone successfully connected to it recently and does any one have working settings for the above.
chyanmor
what do you call Vodaphone Live! ? the wap portal of your provider ?
you should tell us which provider you use so we can help you
each provider has its own settings and a different URL for the wap portal
Hi,
I am trying to the get the PIE to look up live.vodafone.co.uk. I have set the settings as in http://www.clieuk.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?p=34134. However can't get the vodafone page to come up. First of all it said time out and since adding the proxy address in as DNS server it now says it can't locate the page. I have seen some other pages similarly suggesting the browser UA should be Nokia6630?
Any ideas
Hi chyanmor
I also read the same post on that forum and was still having difficulty. I found the default installed streaming media player (HTC Version 2.00 Build602.618) on the Vodafone v1605 UK also has an UA setting under HKLM\software\HTC\Streaming\UserAgent ....I changed the string to this Nokia6680/1.0 (Symbian OS/8.0; Nokia; Series60/2.06)/Netfront3.3 which is the same for Pocket IE. It now shows Vodafone Live with the correct colour icons, links and streams the video content including YouTube with a single click in Pocket IE.
I have searched this and other forums and never seen this key piece of info and hope it helps others ....I also hope it wasn't obvious or posted here and I never found it ......Aaaargh!
Enjoy
PS
The proxy server should not be added as a DNS entry
On my HTC HD2 i have wm6.5 prof installed. The problem is following:
everything was ok with my old sim card, but when i changed it to the new the double operator name was displayed on home screen and in phone menu, like MTS UKR MTS UKR (it's in Ukraine).
As i suppose the first op. name is recieved from tower and the other one is from the sim card. The main problem - is how to disable this stored sim name via win registry???
I've searched a lot of forums and references and tried a lot, but unfortunately none of that helped me.
For ex. i know about key 'HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Ril\OperatorNames' and if create here a new string type like "25501"(this is for ukraine) with "Some Text" value you can change op name, but in my case it's will be like "Some Text MTS UKR". Second part of op. name stays unchanged.
Also at microsoft win mobile reference, i found such info like:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\Cellular\CellTSP
DisableCPHSOverride ( By default, the CPHS operator name (the operator name stored in the SIM) overrides all other stored operator names when the user is registered on the Home PLMN (Public Land Mobile Network) and EONS is not enabled. In that case, the CPHS name is displayed as the operator name. )
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\Cellular\RIL
EONSEnabled ( When set to 1, specifies that EONS (Enhanced Operator Name String) is available.When set to 0 or not present, EONS is not used. The operator name is then set using the CPHS override, unless the override has been explicitly disabled.)
After playing with this settings nothing changed, DisableCPHSOverride didn't influenced on anything, EONSEnabled key i had no at all, but even if create it and set to 0 or 1 nothing changes too. Changing settings in folder EONS.cache ( \HKLM\Comm\Cellular\RIL\EONS .cache ) is not solving the problem because it's recreated every time phone connects to network, it's just a cache.
Actually i have no idea now how to disable this op. name stored on sim, can anyone help me, is here someone with the level of God?))
p.s. beg your pardon for may be bad english.