Hi
I've been trying to change the user-agent for PIE on my JasJam flashed with an AKU 3.3 ROM (South African Qtek).
On the previous version (AKU 2.2) I would be able to change the user agent by changing those keys in the registry:
for example:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Internet Settings\5.0\User Agent\Templates\Same as Pocket PC]
"Platform"="Windows CE; i-mate JASJAM V2 PPC; 240x320"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Internet Settings\5.0\User Agent\Post Platform]
"i-mate JASJAM V2 PPC; 240x320"=""
This doesn't seem to work anymore, user-agent (as checked with www.useragentstring.com) always return:
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows CE; IEMobile 6.8)
I've tried locating all occurences for Mozilla/4.0 in the registry, change them but with no effect.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Cheers
JY
Funny on how you could search for hours, and it's only a few minutes after you post a question that you find the answer:
The user-agent string in AKU 3.3 is located at
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Security\Internet Explorer\User Agent]
"Custom"="PPC; 240x320; HTC_TyTN/1.0 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1"
What were you trying to do by changing the UA? AKU 3.3+ doesn't send the changed UA anymore.
We had been discussing this in several threads already, but the solution created some problems with SMS/e-mail or Favorites in PIE.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=294014&highlight=agent
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=297937&highlight=agent
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=297289&highlight=cingular+video
chenga said:
What were you trying to do by changing the UA? AKU 3.3+ doesn't send the changed UA anymore.
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Without the proper user-agent (so it reports to be an i-mate JasJam), I can not use the wap web site from my mobile company (Telstra).
AKU 3.3 certainly do not use the same registry keys as earlier version, but I was able to modify the user-agent as mentioned in my previous post.
I will see if it creates problem with SMS as you mentioned.
JY
No problem with SMS after changing that registry key
It works fine...
And I get exactly the user-agent I want.
I'm surprised this wasn't found earlier...
JY
What did you change the UA to?
I tried your registry setting, but it did not work with Cingular Video (changing to LG-CU500). The fix that I was talking about replaced two files. That fix is still buggy, but allows Cingular Video and the Planet3 equivalent in Europe to work.
chenga said:
What did you change the UA to?
I tried your registry setting, but it did not work with Cingular Video (changing to LG-CU500).
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In [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Security\Internet Explorer\User Agent]
I changed:
"Custom"="PPC; 240x320; HTC_TyTN/1.0 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1"
into:
"Custom"="i-mate JASJAM V2 PPC; 240x320; HTC_TyTN/1.0 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1"
As the JASJAM V2 bit is what is being checked by the telstra wap site.
I don't know what you need to change it into so it works on your network.
You can control which user-agent is sent with this web site: http://www.useragentstring.com
Make sure after changing the registry that you kill IE, so it will reload the registry content
Ah, ok. We have different needs then. To get the videos from Planet3 and Cingular working, we need to change the Mozilla/4.0 part, not the stuff after that.
chenga said:
Ah, ok. We have different needs then. To get the videos from Planet3 and Cingular working, we need to change the Mozilla/4.0 part, not the stuff after that.
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I think it would be worth playing with that key though, because it definitely has an effect on the user-agent string used by IE...
JY
If you want to change the User Agent String for AKU3.3+ or WM6 you have to edit the browser.dll from Windows directory on Hermes. You must take a dumped browser.dll, because the file can't be copied outside Windows-dir.
Open browser.dll with Hex Editor and search for Mozilla/4.0
You can change Mozilla/4.0 into anything else you want,
e.g.
Mozilla/4.0 (11 signs) into
Palm750/v000 (11 signs)
It won't work for some reason if more signs added, but maybe somebody knows what i do wrong.
[I once changed the things after Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 4.1;...) and then the Registry Setting worked again in HKLM\Security\Internet Explorer\User Agent\Custom and this Registry Setting replaces the User Agent in the browser.dll (maybe the %d after Mozilla/4.0? causes the fixed User Agent sending from browser.dll??). But no access with correct sent User Agent from registry. Strange. With Hex-Editor-Mod it lets me access, with exactly the same User Agent prooved with www.fiddlertool/useragent.aspx ]
Works fine then (tested on Hermes)
I added a dumped browser.dll in browser.zip, but i can't say if it will work on your ROM too. If not, simply delete it again, it will be replaced with original browser.dll from ROM.
For all 3 Austria Users with AKU3.3 or WM6 installed: Simply copy the file from browserUA-3AT 240x320.zip to Windows-directory.
No need to change registry anymore.
Planet3-Link: [B] http://mobile.drei.at/hb/homebase/Grid [/B] UPDATE: Use This URL, others have probs with opening the Streaming Player.
PAPPL said:
If you want to change the User Agent String for AKU3.3+ or WM6 you have to edit the browser.dll from Windows directory on Hermes. You must take a dumped browser.dll, because the file can't be copied outside Windows-dir.
Open browser.dll with Hex Editor and search for Mozilla/4.0
You can change Mozilla/4.0 into anything else you want,
e.g.
Mozilla/4.0 (11 signs) into
Palm750/v000 (11 signs)
It won't work for some reason if more signs added, but maybe somebody knows what i do wrong.
Works fine then.
I added a dumped browser.dll in browser.zip, but i can't say if it will work on your ROM too. If not, simply delete it again, it will be replaced with original browser.dll from ROM.
For all 3Austria Users: Simply copy the file from browserUA-3AT.zip to Windows-directory.
No need to change registry anymore.
Planet3-Link: http://mobile.drei.at/hb/homebase/Hutchkey
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great to here good job, thanks
Nice work, PAPPL! Thank you
Here is the CAB for the Browser.dll for Cingular Video to work in PIE in WM6 or WM5 Aku 3 ROMs. It reports UA of LG-CU500. Blackjack or Samsung A707 UA strings (the other very popular CV devices) have UA's that are longer than 11 digits so the HEx edit wont work.
Also here is a RealPlayer CAB with the browser UA fix autoinstall!
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Here is the CAB for the Browser.dll for Cingular Video to work in PIE in WM6 or WM5 Aku 3 ROMs
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so this will make the browser report correctly for pda sites (as apposed to crappy text only ones due to a weird user agent)??
wpbear said:
Here is the CAB for the Browser.dll for Cingular Video to work in PIE in WM6 or WM5 Aku 3 ROMs. It reports UA of LG-CU500. Blackjack or Samsung A707 UA strings (the other very popular CV devices) have UA's that are longer than 11 digits so the HEx edit wont work.
Also here is a RealPlayer CAB with the browser UA fix autoinstall!
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Thanks for the RealPlayer!
Curious. Tried the wpbear cabs on my factory unlocked HTC branded Trinity P3600 (I know this is a Hermes thread, so please excuse me crashing in. Thought the phones might be similar enough this could get me Cingular Video). Followed the intructions exactly. Strangely, after installation I could no longer even launch Pocket IE. Got a message saying application had the wrong signature or something similar. It was easy enough to uninstall the cabs so it didn't hurt to try. Even aside from this I am have been a bit puzzled that I can't get to the MEdia Net home page, not that this is any great loss. I assume it suggests my phone is not set up to play with the wap.cingular proxy fully. My Internet access seems unrestricted however which is the main thing!
The proxy is wireless.cingular.com:80 ! wap.cingular is the access point (AP). If you have wap.cingular as the proxy, you will not be able to use the Cingular medianet/video pages.
chenga said:
The proxy is wireless.cingular.com:80 ! wap.cingular is the access point (AP). If you have wap.cingular as the proxy, you will not be able to use the Cingular medianet/video pages.
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Thank you so much chenga! Finally I have the proxy set up right to get at the MEdia Net home page. Actually, I had seen those settings mentioned before but I had quite figured out how to enter them correctly until now.
The main problem was probably just my stupidity and ignorance, but I have also come up with a feasible sounding explantation as to why I got confused so I can try to feel less silly!
In case this helps anyone else, the thing that had truly been throwing me off is in my the Connections preferences there are are two sets of preferences as per Windows Mobile default. One has the default name "My ISP" and the other is "My Work Network".
The "My Work Network" is the one which has the option to enter the proxy and well as an APN (It also has the VPN settings options, although that is not applicable in this instance) I think my confusion is because I just switched to Cingy from T-Mo and with them the "My Work Network" settings would probably (I think..but may be wrong) only be used if you had a business plan and need to VPN in past your workplace firewall to get at an Enterprise server of some variety or other (No longer needed with Direct Push over http though)
The "My ISP" settings area has no option to enter a proxy (at least on my device). Solution, use "My Work Network" set it all up as needed and rename it to something relevent e.g. Cingular Proxy.
I suppose I was also thinking way back to my old, old Palm OS Treo days when any proxy option was accessed through its web browser.
I notice that the while use the proxy adds the MEdia Net specific features, it appears from my cursory testing to block SMTP, POP and IMAP. Curiously, it does allow transfers using an FTP client.
Still this is great. I can still use wap.cingular without a proxy for the most part and then just change the connection to use the proxy to get at MEdia Net stuff when desired. Best of both worlds really. Thanks again!
Sorry to bump the thread. I was examing the settings in the Cingular WAP Setup CAB (link earlier in thread) and noticed that it changes the DNS servers to those offered by the free OpenDNS service.
(For anyone new to DNS, it is the way that a human readable Internet address e.g. www.example.com. gets turned into an actual numercial address which a device can really use to find something on the Internet.)
Nothing wrong with that, but it worth noting as that comes down to personal taste. One can always change the DNS servers in the Connection settings at any time. Leave them blank to use Cingular's DNS servers.
My limited experience of the OpenDNS servers is that they are very fast, though can occaisionaly be a bit inconsisitent. They do also filter addresses, mostly in a helpful. e.g. they try to correct obvious typos into a real address (like changing example.coooommmm into example.com) and they also block known phishing sites (fake sites that try to steal personal information). If you type in a web address that cannot be found the OpenDNS server will present you with a suggestions page along with some sponsored links. Doesn't seem to be anything underhand, the page clearly declares itself. But if you use the CAB above and didn't happen to know about OpenDNS you might end up wondering why you end up looking at their page occaisionally.
Edit: Oops, silly me. The post with the originally CAB did already say it uses the OpenDNS servers. (Yes, I know, it really is about time I learned to fully read everything before I post!) Still, perhaps the extra extra details may be helpful to someone anyway.
flamingcrumb said:
Sorry to bump the thread. I was examing the settings in the Cingular WAP Setup CAB (link earlier in thread) and noticed that it changes the DNS servers to those offered by the free OpenDNS service.
(For anyone new to DNS, it is the way that a human readable Internet address e.g. www.example.com. gets turned into an actual numercial address which a device can really use to find something on the Internet.)
Nothing wrong with that, but it worth noting as that comes down to personal taste. One can always change the DNS servers in the Connection settings at any time. Leave them blank to use Cingular's DNS servers.
My limited experience of the OpenDNS servers is that they are very fast, though can occaisionaly be a bit inconsisitent. They do also filter addresses, mostly in a helpful. e.g. they try to correct obvious typos into a real address (like changing example.coooommmm into example.com) and they also block known phishing sites (fake sites that try to steal personal information). If you type in a web address that cannot be found the OpenDNS server will present you with a suggestions page along with some sponsored links. Doesn't seem to be anything underhand, the page clearly declares itself. But if you use the CAB above and didn't happen to know about OpenDNS you might end up wondering why you end up looking at their page occaisionally.
Edit: Oops, silly me. The post with the originally CAB did already say it uses the OpenDNS servers. (Yes, I know, it really is about time I learned to fully read everything before I post!) Still, perhaps the extra extra details may be helpful to someone anyway.
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True, that was stated when I posted that cab. If you are on Cingular you really need a better DNS, theirs suck.
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I'm on Tmob USA's GPRS which works fine, except certain pages (like the html full version of google) or blogger.com just will not load over GPRS. I've tried some registry tweaks to make my browser look like another browser and some other tweaks that were recomended and I still have no luck.
I believe another JasJar user was able to set the preferences at Google to always load pages as HTML, but over GPRS I can't save my preferences on that page to do so. Over wifi I'm able to connect to any page just fine (and I've set my google preferences to HTML from the device on wifi), so I believe somewhere the device is changing the settings depending upon my connection method.
This is one of my last JasJar bugs that's driving me nuts. Please help if you can!
Really, no one else is having this problem? crap....
After my last hard reset google keeps diverting to www.google.co.uk/pda. I think that's because I haven't used Tweaks2k2 to change a few bits, as I normally do, but you can still view 'proper' google, by going into preferences (on the website) and changing the default to 'HTML'
sub69 said:
After my last hard reset google keeps diverting to www.google.co.uk/pda. I think that's because I haven't used Tweaks2k2 to change a few bits, as I normally do, but you can still view 'proper' google, by going into preferences (on the website) and changing the default to 'HTML'
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See, I tried that with no luck. When I navigate to the preferences page over GPRS it fails to save my preferences, literally every time it times out. When I use Wifi I can navigate to the preferences page and save the preference for full HTML, but it still doesn't load when using GPRS. It's pretty clear that it's using a different set of connection settings when the connection is made via GPRS. What settings do you use with Tweaks2k2? Maybe that will work for me...
As I see it, there are three possible reasons:
1) The connection is not a full internet GPRS connection and maybe instead going to a "walled garden", or using WAP
Go to settings, connections, connections, Manage existing connections and duplicate the settings from your Universal onto another device capable of taking your SIM card. Try that sim card in another device with the same connection settings. I expect you'll get the same results. If so, post the settings here
2) Tweaks has done something undesired. Can you list a few websites that are failing? Personally, I'm reluctant to install ANY software until I'm 100% convinced I need it. This applies also to my desktop and trippley so to my server
3) Blame the user :lol:
I reckon it's 1) :idea:
I just set it to recognise pIE as IE6.0
I'm not convinced that that's going to fix the problem you have though, because I'm sure that I've had that problem on other PPC phones which I never used Tweaks2k2 on, and there was some other way to fix it.
I'll have a play around and see what I can come up with...
xiasma said:
As I see it, there are three possible reasons:
1) The connection is not a full internet GPRS connection and maybe instead going to a "walled garden", or using WAP
Go to settings, connections, connections, Manage existing connections and duplicate the settings from your Universal onto another device capable of taking your SIM card. Try that sim card in another device with the same connection settings. I expect you'll get the same results. If so, post the settings here
2) Tweaks has done something undesired. Can you list a few websites that are failing? Personally, I'm reluctant to install ANY software until I'm 100% convinced I need it. This applies also to my desktop and trippley so to my server
3) Blame the user :lol:
I reckon it's 1) :idea:
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Some interesting ideas there. Some of the sites that are failing include:
www.google.com - I can't access the full version and the PDA version hangs constantly during loading and loads results very slow, no images shown when image search is done.
www.blogger.com - It tries to load www.blogger.com/start which again hangs terribly and loads a version of the page with no images.
Various internet shortcuts I imported over from my bookmarks I used on my Dell Axim X30 (PPC2003SE). I'll have to pull a list later if I'm still having this problem.
I don't have another PPC Phone device so I can't try the settings swap but it does sound very likely. I am currently using the cab file from imate for tmobile USA settings (which does create a connection called "tzones" which kinda worries me), it uses the internet2.voicestream.com access poin. I had also manually configured the settings previously using these settings and still had the same problem (pulled from a hofo post by Mashie):
Goto Start > Settings > Connections > Connections > Add new ISP...
Give it a name (T-Mobile)
Select Cellular Line (GPRS)
Next
APN = wap.voicestream.com or internet2.voicestream.com (whichever you like)
Next
Next
Finish
leave username, password, domain, etc... all blank
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But maybe I need to try some different settings... I'll try playing with the settings I have, creating new settings, and hounding some other Tmob USA GPRS user's settings (hopefully someone using another jasjar).
Re: #2, I haven't actually used Tweaks, I used Resco registry editor to try and make the browser appear to be a full PC browser. I tried a ton of registry settings suggested by some more Hofo super-users, but nothing worked. I eventually got really creative and desperate with some registry edits and finally hard reset the device, tried the suggested reg edits again without success, then hard reset again.
Re: #3 - lol. I seem to be the only one with this problem, so I'm not rulling it out... I was a bit worried someone was going to suggest that the PEBKAC (problem exists between keyboard and chair).
www.hotmail.com and www.handango.com are sites I have experienced cannot be accessed in their full PC version. The PIE on the JJ takes us to the mobile sites.
Likewise a strange thing happens when I try to log into the "PocketPCDubai Forums". PIE starts to download the site page. I can see the progress indicator gradually move up. When about 180 Kb has been downloaded the progress indicator disappears meaning that the page has fully been downloaded. Nevertheless the page is blank and with nothing on it.
I also have tried to modify the registry to make the PIE appear as a full browser but nothing seems to work.
Regards
www.hotmail.com and www.handango.com are sites I have experienced cannot be accessed in their full PC version. The PIE on the JJ takes us to the mobile sites.
Likewise a strange thing happens when I try to log into the "PocketPCDubai Forums". PIE starts to download the site page. I can see the progress indicator gradually move up. When about 180 Kb has been downloaded the progress indicator disappears meaning that the page has fully been downloaded. Nevertheless the page is blank and with nothing on it.
I also have tried to modify the registry to make the PIE appear as a full browser but nothing seems to work.
Regards
"www.hotmail.com" and "www.handango.com" are sites I have experienced cannot be accessed in their full PC version. The PIE on the JJ takes us to the mobile sites.
Likewise a strange thing happens when I try to log into the "PocketPCDubai Forums". PIE starts to download the site page. I can see the progress indicator gradually move up. When about 180 Kb has been downloaded the progress indicator disappears meaning that the page has fully been downloaded. Nevertheless the page is blank and with nothing on it.
I also have tried to modify the registry to make the PIE appear as a full browser but nothing seems to work.
Regards
Has anyone had this issue and resolved it via ROM upgrade? I'd be ready to upgrade the ROM right away if I knew it fixed this issue. If not, I'd rather not waste a few hours setting up, reinstalling, and configuring everything.
Does Mozilla Minimo work on the JasJar?
If it does - I believe that might offer a more feature full alternative to the bundled pocket PC InternetExplorer Galt.
Hope this helps
Finally remembered the address that I used to use for Google when I had this problem on my Jam...
http://www.google.com/webhp
That wont redirect you to the /pda page. There are probably similar pages for other websites, but this is the one I used most!
This registry hack will make Pocket Internet Explorer identify itself as IE 5.5 on Windows 2000. However it will prevent web sites that provide Pocket PC specific content to be able to know you're actually using a Pocket PC
Change Pocket IE to IE Version 5.5 (For Secured Sites)
1) Go to the HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\?CurrentVersion\Internet Settings\User Agent\ key. 2) Set the default value to "Mozilla/4.0" (Default is "Mozilla/2.0"). 3) Set the "Version" value to "MSIE 5.5" (Default is "MSIE 3.02"). 4) Set the "Platform" value to "Windows NT 5.0" (Default is "Windows CE").
This will only work on some secure sites that check version number rather than perform a check for support of secured transactions.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Universal_Registry
Carnivor said:
Change Pocket IE to IE Version 5.5 (For Secured Sites)
1) Go to the HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\?CurrentVersion\Internet Settings\User Agent\ key. 2) Set the default value to "Mozilla/4.0" (Default is "Mozilla/2.0"). 3) Set the "Version" value to "MSIE 5.5" (Default is "MSIE 3.02"). 4) Set the "Platform" value to "Windows NT 5.0" (Default is "Windows CE").
This will only work on some secure sites that check version number rather than perform a check for support of secured transactions.
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Tried that, didn't work for me.
sub69 said:
Finally remembered the address that I used to use for Google when I had this problem on my Jam...
http://www.google.com/webhp
That wont redirect you to the /pda page. There are probably similar pages for other websites, but this is the one I used most!
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Tried that, although it loaded the main page (I think I had it cached from wifi browsing) it didn't let me search from there.
I finally upgraded my ROM to the latest 1.13.53 version and still couldn't resolve this with alternate URLs or registry edits. Any ideas, anyone? I'm using the T-mob USA cab settings from imate...
I signed up for the T-Mobile USA internet (GPRS) few days ago.
I could establish the connection using my Universal.
I could browse most web sites, and could download emails from my company exchange server and Hotmail.
Only one strange thing, i could never download emails from Gmail. It will go to the login process, and when it reaches the Sending and Receiving... it will go forever.
I also noticed that I could not browse any google.com web sites including www.google.com, mail.google.com, news.google.com etc..
I tried to get T-Mboile technical support help but it has been useless and helpless. Somebody told me that it might be something to do with the MTU size that the T-Mobile network can pass along today.
If I swicth over the connection to Wifi or dial up via GSM, I can reach everything including Gmail and Google web sites just fine, from the same device (Universal).
Any one, that uses T-Mobile USA GPRS as well, can you please help?
Thanks.
hey I have t-mobile usa also but with the PDA2K (BlueAngel) when I was running WM5.0 and now back to 2003se I had no problems connecting to google.com/pda but I do know that their is a registry hack to make it go to the default google.com but I wouldn't advise it, becuase it interfeirs with other web sites.
Also T-Mobile has 2 data plans WAP and Total Internet the wap is limited to wap sites and such but the other is open to all sites, check your settings to make sure you are connecting to GPRS and not WAP.....
The difference is like 20 or 30 a month though
WAP 19.99 or 9.99
GPRS 29.99 and up for MyMail or VPN MyMail
I have the full GPRS (the new name: Total Internet for $30). Now its bundled with the hotspot and they are not longer offering the $20 for GPRS only.
Can you tell me what access point you set in your device? Mine is set to wap.voicestream.com and use no proxy. i noticed some ppl posted before that they proxy instead.
Thanks.
your connection is incorrect if you notice it is set to wap. even though you have the total internet that is only connecting you to the wap
your access point should be
internet2.voicestream.com or
internet3.voicestream.com
I used 3 on WM5 and it was fine I also use 3 on wm2003se
negative. I could connect to internet2.voicestream.com but not internet3.voicestream.com
internet2.voicestream.com gives me exactly same result.
I can connect to any websites but not google.com with both wap.voicestream.com as well as internet2.voicestream.com
very strange. anybody in Texas particularly has same issue?
I'm out of Massachusetts, but was in Dallas a few days ago and had no problem connecting to Google. I use internet2.voicestream.com
This issue has been driving me nuts for 6 months. I've been trying to nail down the problem, I'm wondering if it's a regional setting with T-mobile's servers or incorrect account set ups. Some people with other Universals and Wizards in other area's claim they do not have this problem.
Here's a general thread on Ho-fo that's been getting some hits, when I posted about it here on XDA forums there wasn't much response.
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=605044
I actually have a couple friends how work for T-mob that thought the problem was with my JasJar until they got ahold of the MDA and discovered the exact same problem.
I've emailed google, just got a response saying they would forward the concern to their tech's. Please share any info or response you get so we can try to get this resolved!!
I've actually had the same problem and I'm on Cincinnati Bell (which is also Cingular & AT&T). I used to be able to connect with no problem on my PDA2k but with the Universal I can't connect. Actually, I've been able to hit the www.google.com/pda site and type in a search but then it just sits & spins forever.
I have the same problem with my MDA from T-mobile. It only happens sometimes. It always connect to google and m.gmail when using wi-fi, but is very hit or miss when connected over GPRS.
Thats the least of my problems however, as I am constantly getting dropped from the GPRS data network even with full coverage, and I'm in the NYC area. I have alerted T-mobile to both problems and am considering turning in my device since i still have a week to do so not because of the device but because of the connection issues with the network.
This has been a bit of a nightmare when it comes to email, because I came from using a blackberry where all my accounts were instantly pushed, to this now when sometime i get email, sometimes not, my Gmail doesnt work properly, and it can take a half an hour for the email to finally reach me.
No problems here
I have no problems connecting to Google.com from my Blue Angel, or from my friend's Wizard. I'm still waiting for my Universal.
I don't have Total Internet Plan, though. I just have the T-Zones hack: In Settings/Connections/Connections, go to "Edit my proxy server" and select "Advanced". HTTP server should be set to 216.155.165.50:8080. Any other HTTP settings should be cleared.
I've noticed in the past two days, however, that Google seems to have changed what it considers a "mobile device", based on the client's User-Agent string. It goes to www.google.com/xhtml if it detects a mobile device. Previously it went to www.google.com/pda , but for a smaller number of devices. Google's "mobile" page has fewer links on it, and is not as useful as the main page.
I use NetFront 3.2, which allows me to change the User-Agent string to make it look like a desktop browser. Today I changed it to:
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; en) Opera 8.51
I also changed the language/platform to en/x86.
This seems to make Google go back to the normal page.
But no connectivity problems are happening with GPRS. I can search Google, browse results, search newsgroups, search News, etc.
There was an T-mobile outage reported in California last week (search HowardForums). Perhaps this is related (routing issues?).
PS: It seems to depend on the User-Agent, whether www.google.com/pda or www.google.com/xhtml is used. If I run Pocket Internet Explorer, it still goes to /pda (searches work fine). If I run NetFront with factory settings, it goes to /xhtml. If I run Opera, or change Netfront as above, then it goes to the Google main page. In no cases does it have problems connecting. Response is a little faster on the main page, though, which would seem to indicate that Google Mobile does something which is slower.
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Google saying that they "don't support T-Mobile devices with Google Mobile" is like saying "best viewed with xxx browser". The phone provider should have no effect on the usability. Nor should Google have to go out of their way to provide a different experience for Mobile users, or to second-guess their needs based on a User-Agent string -- anyone with any browser should be able to use Google, and nothing special should be done for mobile.
I say disable Google Mobile, by changing the User-Agent.
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I have a T-Mobile MDA with the Total Internet plan and Google works fine for me.
Thanks for feedback folks. This isn't a new issue, I've had this problem for 6 months. I currently have my user agent set to IE 5.5/NT so that I can access my bank web page, I've tried several combinations of user-agent settings with no luck, can you explain the exact changes I'd need to make to try your current setting?
Also, I'm hoping that when Netfront releases a WM5 compatible version I can run through a proxy server (which I've also heard solves the problem).
This is with Blue Angel (SX66), WM2003, T-Mobile T-Zones proxy, NetFront 3.2, so your mileage may vary. I will be getting an O2 Exec any day now.
Tools/Browser Setting/Misc/User Agent/Edit
Title: (anything you want to call it)
User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; en) Opera 8.51
appName: (blank)
appVersion: (blank)
appCodeName: (blank)
language/platform: en / x86
Tools/Browser Setting/Network/Proxy (T-Zones only, not Total Internet)
Use Proxy: (checked)
Proxy (hostort) 216.155.165.50:8080
Note that NetFront 3.3 is coming out soon. I'm sure it will support WM5.0, but right now Access says "(* Its verification is not completed.)"
Have you tried Opera? It works with T-Zones proxy, at least in WM2003, if you set the proxy in the GPRS Connection Settings.
It might be worth trying the T-Zones hack. Go to My T-Mobile, log in, and then go to this T-Zones page (if that does not work, go to "Plan&Services, Learn About Services, Communication, T-Zones"). Add T-Zones (aka T-MobileWeb) to your plan. Then you should be able to use the proxy as described above. You can remove it later if you don't want to pay the $6/month extra. Some people have even reported being able to add it and remove it immediately, but keep the services.
I tested to connect to the internet via T-Mobile GPRS with my universal as a USB modem hooked up to my laptop.
And it gives a totally different behaviour compared when used directly from the Universal (with pocket IE and Mail application).
Besides a decent speed, I could browse to google, perform search etc, everything seems to work perfectly (from my laptop, Universal as a USB modem). When I browse the same thing again from the Universal, same problem occured again, never get any search result back from google, and GMail will stuck in the step "Sending and Receiving..." which will go forever until it times out.
I also tested with my Wallaby the same thing to make sure its not the device problem, and it turned out the same problem exists also.
I really could not pin point where the problem is. Please help to think, folks. Its not the device problem? Is it T-Mobile GPRS network problem? Or what?
Are there packet sniffers for PPC? Something like tcpdump, traceroute, ping? That would be my next step. See where it's hung up.
There are some PPC tools for that stuff, I played with an app called TCPTune (I think) but couldn't accomplish anything, I'm totally ignorant of the network stuff.
Re: No problems here
leek said:
In Settings/Connections/Connections, go to "Edit my proxy server" and select "Advanced". HTTP server should be set to 216.155.165.50:8080. Any other HTTP settings should be cleared.
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Holly crap I made this change (still with full Tmob internet plan) and a few registry edits based on your Netfront settings (probably butchered my registry) and manually forced a connection via my WAP settings and THEN LOADED GOOGLE OVER GPRS!! FULL HTML GOOGLE, NEWS GMAIL, IMAGES, ON MY JASJAR VIA GPRS OMG!! I'm really feeling very strong emotional feelings of like towards you right now Leek! :lol:
I'm having some trouble with google local not returning results (starts to load a page with a text box and then stops), not sure why but I suspect it's a problem with my hacked up user agent registry settings.
So, here's my question - I really don't mind paying the full $20 for regular GPRS (and wouldn't want to worry about full access via the $4.99 tzones going away), how do I either make this work using my regular GPRS settings (so I don't have to use an alternate connection) or how do I get the WAP settings to work as my primary settings for all programs? I was able to update my feeds and load images over this WAP settings just fine, but when I tried to check my email or load Agile messenger it tried to load my regular GPRS settings.
In order to figure out exactly which change made this work I went back and reset my PPC to a backup from last night. The only registry edits I have now are my old ones that made PIE show the version as "MSIE 5.5" & the platform as "Windows NT 5.0". Other than the changes below, I'm using the T-mobile CAB settings from i-mate.
I went into settings > connections > and below My Work Network I went to Manage existing settings and then clicked on the Proxy Settings Tab. The two check boxes were already checked but the proxy server was blank so I entered the 216.155.165.50 and then click on advanced. and it then showed that server under Type HTTP but the port was 80 not 8080, I then clicked on the HTTP server and edited the port to 8080 and then hit ok. I left all the other servers that were listed as is.
From the main Connections > Settings screen I then clicked on manage existing connections, it brought up the T-mobile WAP connection and then I click-held on that and selected connect. I then loaded PIE, navigated to Google and grinned as it loaded everything.
Under this connection type most other web pages I've been trying work fine, although some (like howard forums and search.yahoo.com) don't work. *edit hofo might be down right now*
The problem I was having initally with Google local (via web, haven't tried the local java app) is resolved and it now loads fine, as I suspected it must have been my hacked up user agent registry settings. I'm now also able to check and send POP email with this WAP connection, Agile Messenger connects to the servers.
Big thanks to leek for posting this fix here, now how can I make this my default connection and should I try to downsize my account to just the $5 tzones account?
found how to make it the default connection method (connections > settings > advanced > select networks > and then set the top drop down to "my work network".
Leek, buddy, I owe you a case of beer... This had been driving me nuts for 6 months, you solved it!!!
hi galt and leek,
I'm so excited to read that you guys succesfully solved this.
i could not try it out anymore, I changed my T-Mobile plan yesterday, I removed my total internet plan as I don't want to pay $30 per month without even able to access my primary email account: Gmail and google around.
SO, can you give summary again how to make this works?
I assume no extra application to install beside all standard application built in WM5.
Pls clarify:
1. Get T-MobileWeb /t-zones plan ($5.99)
2. set the proxy setting for HTTP with the port 8080 and left others empty (including the SOCKS, WAP)
3. Use the APN: wap.voicestream.com
Do I miss anything? Any reqistry setting I have to make?
That's it? And you can have full access to the internet? Can you clarify if Gmail is working via POP3?
I tried the proxy setting when I still had my total Internet plan but it did not work out. :`(
Has anyone been able to remove t-mobile's annoying image compression? When browsing the web all images are heavily compressed in browsers and ROMS that I've tried.
Apparently German tmob customers can change preferences online and usb stick users can remove it using the connection manager. Probably isn't possible, but thought it was worth asking
Using my phone as a modem (with T-Mobile UK) I use the modify headers add-on in Firefox. You can then change two settings:
Name: pragma, Value: no-transform
Name: cache-control, Value: no-cache
When they are both enabled you can get uncompressed images. I've never looked into why but it does work. Maybe that might be of use in some way?
sh2811 said:
Using my phone as a modem (with T-Mobile UK) I use the modify headers add-on in Firefox. You can then change two settings:
Name: pragma, Value: no-transform
Name: cache-control, Value: no-cache
When they are both enabled you can get uncompressed images. I've never looked into why but it does work. Maybe that might be of use in some way?
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I've seen this before, but there's no way to modify headers in opera via the usual opera:config page. Nothing else seems to work either.
I was with T-Mobile UK for quite a while and I never noticed any image compression but then I never used their proxy servers.
Do you still get this when not using their proxies?
I removed tmobs proxy settings from the connection. Via Wifi I get perfect images so I know they must have some compression running. The extra speed is great, but the compression is just too heavy for my liking.
derinahon said:
I removed tmobs proxy settings from the connection. Via Wifi I get perfect images so I know they must have some compression running. The extra speed is great, but the compression is just too heavy for my liking.
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same story here, removing the proxy settings did not help
I have no useful advice to offer, sadly, but if anyone ever figures this out, please let me know!
I'm on T-Mobile in the UK and I hadn't noticed this until I've just read this thread. Now it is really annoying me. I haven't got any proxy specified and I can confirm that when roaming (ie not connected via Wi-Fi) Opera does indeed display compressed images (badly compressed).
iouk said:
I'm on T-Mobile in the UK and I hadn't noticed this until I've just read this thread. Now it is really annoying me. I haven't got any proxy specified and I can confirm that when roaming (ie not connected via Wi-Fi) Opera does indeed display compressed images (badly compressed).
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Opera and IE as well (so it's clearly not the faulty of the browser).
t-mobile have had compression on web images for ages, it's annoying but hardly noticeable on my HD2
On my netbook it's really annoying but shift +R removes compression on a single image and shift +A removes compression on all images on a page.
Not tried the Name: pragma, Value: no-transform / Name: cache-control, Value: no-cache workaround but I've made a not of it and will give it a go.
Hmm
Have you dived into the registry to look at Network settings? Or Failing that, have you tried to set another proxy server? There are many available on the internet.
Other than that, I'm not entirely sure.
Some one much smarter will have a look at this thread and say something.
Also, believe me I don't mean this in a patronising way, but did you soft-reset after applying no proxy settings?
Jake
J.Hendy said:
Also, believe me I don't mean this in a patronising way, but did you soft-reset after applying no proxy settings?
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I think you'll find you did mean that in a patronising way but yes, I haven't been using T-Mobile's proxy server (or anyone else's) for the past 2 months, now - I had to deactivate it because for some reason it interferes with Outlook's ability to fetch email from my POP account. Switching it off makes no difference to image compression.
I did actually ring up T-Mobile tech support about this once, and was told that there is no way to configure an HD2 to prevent the compression - but they might have been wrong. I live in hope.
im on o2 and found compressed images too.
but it only happened after i changed from stock rom.
unless o2 has just started this recently i have to believe its a phone setting.
(made too many changes to revert back to stock rom for proof :/)
also noticed its only in opera an not explorer once the cache is flushed. and yes when using wifi it doesnt have any compression. so i think the phone is sending data telling the data provider to use compression.
with that said there must be a way to stop the compression.
anyone found the solution yet?
xda9467 said:
im on o2 and found compressed images too.
but it only happened after i changed from stock rom.
unless o2 has just started this recently i have to believe its a phone setting.
(made too many changes to revert back to stock rom for proof :/)
also noticed its only in opera an not explorer once the cache is flushed. and yes when using wifi it doesnt have any compression. so i think the phone is sending data telling the data provider to use compression.
with that said there must be a way to stop the compression.
anyone found the solution yet?
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solved it ... the compression does come from the network provider and they can give you alternative servers
Tmobile compression is done on a transparant proxy between there server and proxy server. Thus dissabling the proxy does not actually stop traffic being routed by the transparant proxy.
I see there is some software provided by tmob for changing image compression when using their 3g dongle. I wonder if that will work on the phone, by using the phone as a modem you may be able to use your PC to connect to your account and adjust the compression setting.
Will have to wait untill im home in a few days and give it a go
for everyone on o2 you can disable the compression by changing the username for the mobile web settings, change it from o2web to bypass leave the rest of the information as it is. Clear the cache for your browser and reload and you should notice an improvement on the pictures. Might need to soft reset.
Is this still unresolved for T-mobile?
xda9467 said:
solved it ... the compression does come from the network provider and they can give you alternative servers
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Did you speak to T-mobile to get the "alternative servers'? Can you share the settings that disable the compression?
Bump.
Interested in potential compression removal on T-Mob UK.
funnily enough I'm using my HD2 now as a modem and I went looking for this solutionagain. I'd done it last year on another laptop but couldn't remember exactly how to do it again.
anyway this solution from T-Mobile forums works great
If you use Mozilla Firefox you can make the browser do the job for you and disable the software that controls the images.
In Firefox go to
Part one
Tools > Add ons > Get Add ons > Click in the search and enter modify headers > You will get a few results, scroll to the one named 'modify headers' > Select Add to Firefox >Accept and Install > Install now > Click to restart Firefox
Part two
Tools > Modify Headers > Top leff drop down select 'Add' > Click in the name box (its next to where you just clicked to select add) enter this: Pragma > In the Value box (next one over) enter: Cache-Control > Click the Add button to the right (it will drop down with a green spot)
Again
Top left drop down select 'Add' > Click in the name box (its next to where you just clicked to select add) enter this: Cache-Control> In the Value box (next one over) enter: No-Cache> Click the Add button to the right (it will drop down with another green spot)
Part three
Bottom Right Hand Side click 'configuration' > Under General tick 'always on' > Close the box
Then Clear the Cache and History in Firefox and restart the Firefox and hey presto, clear images.
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Hi,
I have my HD2 bought Sim Unlocked on UK 02
Ever since having it, it seems to randomly search on Google.de when searched from the google bar on internet tab on Manilla ( when on 3G) instead of google.com or preferably google.co.uk.
I'm not sure why this happens and would like to know if this is location based or dependant on registry setting
This has happened on Rom 1.48, 1.61 and 1.66
Any advice appreciated
Thanks
its definately a reg key but i dont know which one.
I thought a regkey seemed likely but found it strange that it defaulted to .de even on 3 different Roms. Originally I was on Voda ( different Phone ) but changed due to poor network Coverage. Never noticed it change to .de on Voda though?
Anyone with any ideas?
Preferences on google maybe? If you go to google.com you can usually set what language, country etc you want to search by default, and that gets stored in a cookie...
while we are talking about the browser, how can I change the opera mobile client, to get full desktop view for all the pages
mine dose that too so i set my opera home page to google.co.uk ans search from there, as i cant use the search from the internet tab !!
Is this on O2 - I've noticed that they're giving out German IP addresses
If you go to internetfrog.com you can check
took me a while to work it out!
The search box on teh internet manilla tab is hard coded, as far as I can see. I spent a while hunting through the registry with no luck. I'm with daddycool, just set a shortcut to .co.uk as a favourite and do my searching that way, forget all about the built in search box.
Thanks for feedback, yes it is on O2 and the comments now make sense!
At least i know I'm not going mad!
Audio Oblivion said:
its definately a reg key but i dont know which one.
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I dont know if this is what you are looking for (Noob Immunity) but: HKCU/Software/HTC/Manila and change the value of "InternetSearchURI" I was able to change the address to google.com but still doesnt work right. It sends it to "google.com(then types my search words here) sigh...
does anyone knows how to change the mobile client?
google seems to format the pages "because I am using a mobile"
mmmalas said:
does anyone knows how to change the mobile client?
google seems to format the pages "because I am using a mobile"
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Yes, in the registry find
HKEY Current User\Software\HTC\Manila
Look for the entry
Internet.Searchurl
and set it to the value
http://google.co.uk/search?hl=en-GB&output=html&q=%s
This will give you google.co.uk, and in HTML instead of mobile view.
The &q=%s is important, that passes the search query from the internet tab into googles search box, otherwise you just get the google homepage with no results.
if you want to get non mobile results from within opera, you need to set that within googles preferences, which will then save a cookie to your phone, and you will needed to do that whenever you clear the cache.
Hi,
I've Omnia i900 and changed ROM from 6.1 to 6.5
It seems that my operator is blocking this phone when I use WAP connection, and they told me that it's because they check that Omnia should have 6.1 version and not 6.5
Is it possible to hack the registry or some dll, so it will send version 6.1 even though it's 6.5?
Thank you!
i don't think operator is blocking you...
try folowing
change operator in settings (on omnia) to some other than yours operator and then wait 30sec and then change it back and you should have working wap/gprs
when you say they are blocking .... do you mean it won't connect your data connection or it wont load pages in the browser?
that's two completely different issues
The HTTP connection isn't working and I get an error:
HTTP 1046 - The device is defined to have the 'Deny' status. This configuration has been set using the DeviceInfo utility
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but the HTTPS connection does works fine...
A little idea: Look in the \windows folder to a file called ModelName.txt and read what inside is. Perhaps another device name.
I'm suspecting that the Operator's proxy is looking at the UserAgent String and denying based on this.
Details on where to find this information in the mobile's registry can be found here. This is assuming you are using Internet Explorer on your mobile.
Probably the best thing to do is check what these entries were before you changed your ROM and adjust them to match. If you cannot flash the original ROM, maybe someone with the original ROM will be kind enough to look them up on theirs for you.