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Serious TCPMP Video issues on Hermes/TyTN...

Sorry guys, bad news. Sorry if this has already been posted and it has eluded me, but the hermes/TyTN cannot play your Divx/Xvid encoded AVI files in TCPMP!
I've read on some other forums that I am not alone in this area as during TCPMP installation, a pop message makes some mention of the on-board ATI imaging.....whatever. Point is the ATI stuff on the VarioII/TyTN interferes with TCPMP to the point of causing such interference that the interface is 'scrambled' almost like severe 'bad reception' to the point of being totally unuseable. I'm gutted. I've tried most versions of TCPMP includinc 0.71 and 0.72, but to no avail.
I've now tried for the first time other players, like PocketMVP, but no joy.
I was wondering if any TyTN/VarioII/VPA...owners have had a positive experience in this regard?
Specifically with their own Divx or Xvid encoded movie clips or full DVD's converted to such an AVI file.
Any feedback will be greatly appreciated.
P.S. The developers of TCPMP are well aware of this as there are many posts on this topic in their forum but till now no solution.
Has anybody found an alternative player? And for those unfamiliar with this problem, NO Windows Media Player cannot handle Divx/Xvid AVI videos (which IMHO are the best quality video files on a PPC).
mackaby007
MDA VarioII/HTC TyTN
ROM: 1.21.11.3
ROM date: 06/19/06
Radio: 1.05.05.00
Protocol: 32.36.7010.04H

I am just trying VLC for ppc will post findings!

TCPMP working well now on Hermes...RawFrameBuffer mode
faisal.husain said:
I am just trying VLC for ppc will post findings!
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Not to worry. Got our fav player working thanks to some other guys.
See below for link to solution:
http://www.4winmobile.com/viewtopic.php?p=36600#36600

thank you VERY MUCH for that info. i was getting a bit worried that i wouldnt be able to play my videos with my new xda trion. i actually experienced better performance with the GDI video settings vs. the RawFramBuffer mode.

mdajax said:
thank you VERY MUCH for that info. i was getting a bit worried that i wouldnt be able to play my videos with my new xda trion. i actually experienced better performance with the GDI video settings vs. the RawFramBuffer mode.
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Thanks for that mdajax. Do you or anyone else know what the difference is between them?

Just set TCPMP to use Raw FrameBuffer or GDI through options -> video and it plays fine

ok video play but bad quality... and bad sound !!!!

Framebuffer mode outperforms GDI on varioII in TCPMP
mdajax said:
thank you VERY MUCH for that info. i was getting a bit worried that i wouldnt be able to play my videos with my new xda trion. i actually experienced better performance with the GDI video settings vs. the RawFramBuffer mode.
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When I first read this post, I thought little of it until I came across some stuttering on Video playback under GDI settings.
I decided to run a Benchtest under TCPMP in both modes, and on my VarioII, RawFramebuffer mode outperformed GDI mode by minimum of 50%. Additionally, under 'Media Information' of TCPMP, GDI mode played back the Mpeg1 video file at 18 fps compared to 33 fps in framebuffer mode (no stutters either).
It must be differences between the ROMs or other 3rd party Apps that is causing such a great degree of difference, but for now, I'm sticking to RAWFRAMEBUFFER mode. :wink:

atonparis said:
ok video play but bad quality... and bad sound !!!!
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looks and sounds great on mine. what kind of video files are you trying to play? what resolution/bitrate? if you're trying to play like an hr hdtv xvid file...then yea...your phone will have a hard time playing it.
i just use the psp or ipod video convertor to convert to 320x240, 768kbps...and it looks & plays beautifully.

mdajax said:
atonparis said:
ok video play but bad quality... and bad sound !!!!
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looks and sounds great on mine. what kind of video files are you trying to play? what resolution/bitrate? if you're trying to play like an hr hdtv xvid file...then yea...your phone will have a hard time playing it.
i just use the psp or ipod video convertor to convert to 320x240, 768kbps...and it looks & plays beautifully.
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The forementioned file was an MPEG 1 file @320x240 from pocketmovies.net, though usually I encode my own vids using DVDx and Divx Codec 6.0 @320x240 @ 400 or 500kbps and all play flawlessly. Presently though I can't test them coz I haven't received my Transflash card yet!
But hey, if it works for you, more power to ya. The other works better for me. :wink:

It's starts playing fine. But what happenes when you pause video and then play again? Mine is stuffers like hell, only solution is reload videofile....

Yep same here, works just great with video set to rawframebuffer and audio to anything, but after a puse or skip to later in the video audio stutters and the only resolution to it is reloading the file.

Same problem over here.
Even with BT radio off, I have the same scrambled view when selecting Ati.
Raw frame buffer works for video, but then I still have the audio skipping after pause.

mackaby007 said:
mdajax said:
atonparis said:
ok video play but bad quality... and bad sound !!!!
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looks and sounds great on mine. what kind of video files are you trying to play? what resolution/bitrate? if you're trying to play like an hr hdtv xvid file...then yea...your phone will have a hard time playing it.
i just use the psp or ipod video convertor to convert to 320x240, 768kbps...and it looks & plays beautifully.
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The forementioned file was an MPEG 1 file @320x240 from pocketmovies.net, though usually I encode my own vids using DVDx and Divx Codec 6.0 @320x240 @ 400 or 500kbps and all play flawlessly. Presently though I can't test them coz I haven't received my Transflash card yet!
But hey, if it works for you, more power to ya. The other works better for me. :wink:
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those psp/ipod video convertor programs (videora to be exact) convert it to mpeg4 format, using h.264. i've never tried playing an mpeg1 file on my mda or trion, but you should at least test a converted mp4 video file on your device and see how it plays.
edit: i just ran a benchmark of an alicia keys video...hehe, which is mpeg4, h.264, 768kbps...and the test reported an avg. of 27fps.

right now mine works decently with the imate rom with rawframebuffer i can pause and play it (minor hiccup occurs but then its fine) much better than having to reload it every time.

but for the quality ( and use pause) i prefer use WM encoder....

Guys can yo play back an Mpeg2 stream? Every time I try I get an error saying TCMP unsupported. Although I am usin version 0.66!

Guys can yo play back an Mpeg2 stream? Every time I try I get an error saying TCMP unsupported. Although I am usin version 0.66!

faisal.husain said:
Guys can yo play back an Mpeg2 stream? Every time I try I get an error saying TCMP unsupported. Although I am usin version 0.66!
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It's not supported husain. But WMP10 can play it if the bitrate is not to exessive, but it will most likely be stuttery/jerky. It is after all the DVD format and requires hefty processing power to be smooth. Best bet IMHO is to use an encoder and use Divx or Xvid at whatever bitrate suits your needs. Anything between 500 - 768 kbps will look like DVD quality on a PPC QVGA device @320x240 resolution. :wink:

mackaby007 said:
faisal.husain said:
Guys can yo play back an Mpeg2 stream? Every time I try I get an error saying TCMP unsupported. Although I am usin version 0.66!
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It's not supported husain. But WMP10 can play it if the bitrate is not to exessive, but it will most likely be stuttery/jerky. It is after all the DVD format and requires hefty processing power to be smooth. Best bet IMHO is to use an encoder and use Divx or Xvid at whatever bitrate suits your needs. Anything between 500 - 768 kbps will look like DVD quality on a PPC QVGA device @320x240 resolution. :wink:
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Thanks m8; have you managed to get rtsp working on tytn? I have tried with various degrees of transcoding with VLC on my PC using VOD (RTSP protocol) which works fine on other pc over wifi around the house; although the video streaming client that comes with my MDA vario 2 does not recognise the stream, Has anyone had any sucess playing any RTSP stream? Thanks in advance!

is xvid playback possible?

hi,
is this possible? is there a way to do this for free?
thanks,

Anyone have an idea? i have googled it to death.

coreplayer plays allmost any multimediafile. It's not free, but if you google hard enough you'll find a ***version. or try tcpmp, google for it, version 0.72 or 0,81

hyellow said:
coreplayer plays allmost any multimediafile. It's not free, but if you google hard enough you'll find a ***version. or try tcpmp, google for it, version 0.72 or 0,81
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Thought TCPMP doesnt work on WVGA?

hyellow said:
coreplayer plays allmost any multimediafile. It's not free, but if you google hard enough you'll find a ***version. or try tcpmp, google for it, version 0.72 or 0,81
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I have tried TCPMP and it crashes. Does this mean it that it does not crash on your X1?

I use Coreplayer for all my movies... it plays them well as long as you have converted them right...

SE-Naz said:
I use Coreplayer for all my movies... it plays them well as long as you have converted them right...
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Hi, what do you mean convert? Convert to XVid?

People have complained that if the file is not converted properly... it does not play well on Coreplayer...
I have Rush Hour 3 Xvid and have tried it on Coreplayer and it played well... Very nice...
Get a good convertor... Some people suggest the IPOD Video Convertor, also Super (FREE)... There are plenty more out there 2
Cheers

I Use Core Player. And it works like a charm.

Insaneboy said:
Thought TCPMP doesnt work on WVGA?
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I have tcpmp on my device as well as core player 2.0 and both will play xvid but core player won't play any ac3 audio so be careful of that. Core player plays things much smoother than tcpmp and u can kick ur buffering up to crazy number in coreplayer without it crashing. Anything above like 1MB will crash tcpmp.

How can i play avi and divx on HD?

How can i play avi and divx on HD? plz some help?

As far as I know you will need good player. I will wait for CorePlayer 2.0

try this
http://www.4shared.com/file/51243023/beaf1cb8/TCPMP-072RC1-ARM-PPC-recomp-03CAB.html
This worked with my blackstone

I also used CorePlayer from CoreCodec... very good player, but you need to pay a small amount of money to be able to use it legally.
Plays probably anything you care to throw at it, most notably normal divX files, like ~800mb .avi aXXo rips and such.

I used the DIVX player for mobiles downloaded from DIVX.COM for free! Seems to play any Divx and Xvid .AVIs I've tried so far without problems! Give it a try!
http://labs.divx.com/MobileDownload

and since I posted that message, more digging around has pointed me to an updated version of TCPMP that works on WM6.1.
You'll find a link to that thread below...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=381292
Hope this helps!

namwollem said:
I used the DIVX player for mobiles downloaded from DIVX.COM for free! Seems to play any Divx and Xvid .AVIs I've tried so far without problems! Give it a try!
http://labs.divx.com/MobileDownload
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does divx player mobile play flawless standard divx (for example 700mb divx) or did you convert to phone format?

I've read that the Core Player sometime has a choppy playback. Anyone here experience that?
And I'm also curious about jackthekayman's question as to how flawless the Divx player mobile plays videos.

namwollem said:
and since I posted that message, more digging around has pointed me to an updated version of TCPMP that works on WM6.1.
You'll find a link to that thread below...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=381292
Hope this helps!
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Thx for the help =) its working =)

ist a litle bitt lagg
Is lagging a bit how can i get it to play without lagg?
Btw
Thanks for all the answers =)

Quick question. Is the TCPMP that you are all talking about the same as the CorePlayer Mobile from here?

Chris Cross said:
Quick question. Is the TCPMP that you are all talking about the same as the CorePlayer Mobile from here?
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I ment the TCPMP =)

Soprano82 said:
I ment the TCPMP =)
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I know, but is TCPMP = CoreMedia Player
or are they two different programs?

Two different programs.
Petrov.

divx
I tried core player and tcmp as well and movies skip with both.
does anyone know why?
thanks

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I know, but is TCPMP = CoreMedia Player
or are they two different programs?
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Yes they are. Somehow they have the same source but core is faster while TCPMP supports more formats as like AC3.
zsilak said:
I tried core player and tcmp as well and movies skip with both.
does anyone know why?
thanks
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Not supported format or file is corrupt.

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does divx player mobile play flawless standard divx (for example 700mb divx) or did you convert to phone format?
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me 2 wants to know

CorePlayer is the only player worth using.. I bought it for my Nokia and have now transferred my license to WM6.1 (for free )
No conversion of formats is needed. Even Full movies etc.. Best framerate.
When coreplayer reaches 3.x in the near future it will also have hardware support for HTC phones.
Great program, great developers.

FYI... I haven't used TCPMP yet, but it is possible to convert an AVI file to MP4 which can be played with the HD's built in player. The easiest way to convert is is by using VLC to do it, here's a quick tutorial: http://appleclinic.wordpress.com/2008/04/20/convert-wmv-to-mp4/

halling said:
CorePlayer is the only player worth using.. I bought it for my Nokia and have now transferred my license to WM6.1 (for free )
No conversion of formats is needed. Even Full movies etc.. Best framerate.
When coreplayer reaches 3.x in the near future it will also have hardware support for HTC phones.
Great program, great developers.
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Are you working for them?
I want a program that works without lag/freeze

Please help (about steaming)

Is there any steaming media player can support 320x240 h.264 format?
Can anyone share the cab installed file of steaming media player?
Thank you very much!

Have you tried CorePlayer? Personally not tested it's streaming features but by far, the best media player out there..

I've tried coreplayer V1.25, but my mobile phone hanged....

diamond? works on mine perfectly with h264 streamsfrom the web. just lags a little and the resolution is different tho.

yungj said:
Is there any steaming media player can support 320x240 h.264 format?
Can anyone share the cab installed file of steaming media player?
Thank you very much!
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I'm sorry, but I couldn't help myself. The term you are referring to is called 'stReaming', and not 'steaming', which brings a whole new meaning to the phrase...

lol no wonder it looked awkward, reminds me of the iSteamy app on jailbreak iPhones!

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diamond? works on mine perfectly with h264 streamsfrom the web. just lags a little and the resolution is different tho.
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Hi, I am using diamond too, you're using coreplayer to play h.264 streaming video? I used coreplayer to play that, but after I pressed the "play", the mobile will freeze on the screen.

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I'm sorry, but I couldn't help myself. The term you are referring to is called 'stReaming', and not 'steaming', which brings a whole new meaning to the phrase...
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sorry, it's only a typing mistake

Divx in HD??

I would like to play some Divx movies through windows Media player...
I got the latest player divx player but i noticed its not playing those movies in Windows media player... can you help me??

Windows Media Player won't play these files. You can either look for CorePlayer, or convert your video (using this tool).

Coreplayer works great, you just have to drop your Dvix in Storage Card !!!

luminouche said:
Coreplayer works great, you just have to drop your Dvix in Storage Card !!!
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Why must it be located on the storage card. It should be much faster from the internal storage in theory, and you can choose the location in CorePlayer, so I don't see any restriction here.

space restriction maybe ?
cause i don't know for you, but i don't have enough for a divx (~700mb) in my internal HD storage ^^

douxe said:
space restriction maybe ?
cause i don't know for you, but i don't have enough for a divx (~700mb) in my internal HD storage ^^
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And who is saying that a divx video has to be 700mb in size? DivX is just a codec, it has nothing to do with the size of the video file.

well ok then

I dont like the Coreplayer but i will get it anyway.
Thank you all

I use the freeware Divx player for PPC (full screen on HD)
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-pocket-divx-player-0-8.html

Nobody mentioned the free TCPMP player? It works on HD, and has the same performance as Coreplayer (which may be TCPMP's successor, but is not free)
You need 0.72, though with a special re-compile for the HD. It is linked somewhere around this forum, just search

zolom said:
I use the freeware Divx player for PPC (full screen on HD)
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-pocket-divx-player-0-8.html
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Did not know this existed. How well does it work? Can it use the hardware accelerator in the HD?

Works well for me

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Nobody mentioned the free TCPMP player? It works on HD, and has the same performance as Coreplayer (which may be TCPMP's successor, but is not free)
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Unfortunately that's not true. While CorePlayer is able to playback my videos with about 110%, I reach just about 70% with TCPMP. So TCPMP is quite useless on this device , although (with all available plugins it has a better media support. For example AC-3 and subtitles are supported).

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And who is saying that a divx video has to be 700mb in size? DivX is just a codec, it has nothing to do with the size of the video file.
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Very true... but a standard movie ripped to DIVX is roughly 700mb+ as stated above - and theres no way you're getting that on Internal Memory.
I suppose it depends what type of videos you watch, but personally the only time I watch videos on my device is when traveling - where I watch full movies.
Each to their own though...

johnpatcher said:
Unfortunately that's not true. While CorePlayer is able to playback my videos with about 110%, I reach just about 70% with TCPMP. So TCPMP is quite useless on this device , although (with all available plugins it has a better media support. For example AC-3 and subtitles are supported).
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There was a whole thing with a 007 trailer in another thread, and all coreplayer users reported a ~85%, which I also got on TCPMP. Just remember to not use the GDI driver, and set the slow video memory option (those settings do make a difference).
Now, as soon as Coreplayer solves the hardware driver thing and/or goes well over 100% on that same 007 Quantum of Solace trailer, I am a buyer.