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I can't imagine I just got the latest toy and the whole thing made a step backwards...
I cannot send an SMS to a specific group of people among my contacts if not choosing each of them one by one each time...
I have many different group of people I send SMS' to and I was used to have lists on SmartSMS while using a SmartPhone and also distribution lists and categories on Outlook while at the desk...
With Wizard it seems there are no solutions... I have tried almost all of the trial SMS managers out there, but it seems I have no luck...
I've spent the last two days looking for a solution (either within WM5 or as an addon...). No luck...
Do you have any hint ?
Is there anyone wishing to develop something like above explained ?
Thank you very much...
Best regards...
Mix
Yeah, im also intressted in sending sms to a group.
Me too, plz let me know if you find some solution...
for a OS of such quality it is an appalling lapse by MS
We should all email them a support question and ask them if it will be included in the next release??
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We should all email them a support question and ask them if it will be included in the next release??
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I've tried a little bit to use InfoSharp to send SMS to contacts within a category (fortunately there is such chance on this small and nice program...). The program itself is not yet "finished" but it does the job...
I'll post my suggestion to the developer, hoping that growing, it will become better.
About sending our comments to Microsoft: well, I personally think it would be nice, but it would be nicer if our suggestions could be "understood" in any way. It seems to me this rarely happens.
Not to mention the function I'm looking for was present in WM2003SE !!!
Maybe too many shrimps are eaten within MS... ;-)
Ciao
Mix
P.S. Actually ANY SUGGESTION on this matter would help, as it seems there still is not solution...
Hi guys have found an app for sending sms by category group
The app is called 'simplysms' and is developed by a company called visual IT.
It's not windows 5 compatible at the moment although I am waiting for a response from the developers.
I'll keep people posted.
Website: www.visualit.co.uk
SimplySMS mobile 5 will be released in the new year.
good news
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peteborota said:
The app is called 'simplysms' and is developed by a company called visual IT.
It's not windows 5 compatible at the moment although I am waiting for a response from the developers.
I'll keep people posted.
Website: www.visualit.co.uk
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Is seems they have no plans developing any WM5 version of such program, otherwise something would have appeared on their website...
I think then there is no other option to keep a Nokia phone in my pocket too... but then I don't need an HTC pocket PC... I can run with another one with no phone functions as I did in the past...
Any other news ???
Ciao
It is very helpful utility if we can find it
if we can have such an application it will be very greate
SimplySMS for windows 5 will be launched in March
Had an email from Visualit the makers of simplysms. They will be releasing a windows mobile 5 version of the software in March this year.
It will allow users to send a text to a outlook category of contacts.
Hold on it's round the corner.
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peteborota said:
Had an email from Visualit the makers of simplysms. They will be releasing a windows mobile 5 version of the software in March this year.
It will allow users to send a text to a outlook category of contacts.
Hold on it's round the corner.
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march ? March ? MARCH ???
It's on next century !!! I'll have switched to another phone by that date...
I'll have to wait then, but I'm looking around for another solution... pretty tired of hand-choosing between my contacts...
Thanks a lot anyway... the fault is not yours... it's MS' first of all...
Ciao
You could create a shortcut with the recipients pre-listed. E.g.
Text message colleagues.lnk
32#"tmail.exe" -to "06xxxxxxx; 06xxxxxxx; 06xxxxxxx" -service ""
Will prompt the messaging app with a new message. If you last used Hotmail/whatever, though - it won't start a new text message, but a new e-mail/whatever.
If you want to be able to pick the account, use instead:
32#"tmail.exe" -to "06xxxxxxx; 06xxxxxxx; 06xxxxxxx"
If you want to add a default message, use :
32#"tmail.exe" -to "06xxxxxxx; 06xxxxxxx; 06xxxxxxx" -body "Text here"
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You can also use vijay555's VJSMS to always send a text message, regardless of what account you're in.
32#"\Program Files\vijay555\VJSMS.exe" "06xxxxxxx; 06xxxxxxx; 06xxxxxxx" -body "Text here"
http://www.vijay555.com/index.php?Releases:VJPhoneTools
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Essentially, all the above are more like 'templates' than they are group text message tools. If you have a new person you want to add to a 'group', you'll have to manually adjust the shortcut.
On the other hand - it's available now, and freely.
ZeBoxx said:
You could create a shortcut with the recipients pre-listed. E.g.
Text message colleagues.lnk
32#"tmail.exe" -to "06xxxxxxx; 06xxxxxxx; 06xxxxxxx" -service ""
[...omissis...]
Essentially, all the above are more like 'templates' than they are group text message tools. If you have a new person you want to add to a 'group', you'll have to manually adjust the shortcut.
On the other hand - it's available now, and freely.
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Thank you very much for the helpful hint... the main problem anyway is always the same: I use distribution lists so I don't have to bother on updates of contacts details. I just keep them updated and I have the result.
There is anyway a major problem on the hint you just gave me: line limitation...
WM5 accepts for example multiple recipients on the "To:" field but the problem is I still do not know which is the maximum number (I suppose it depends on how long the "To:" field can be, maybe max 255 char.).
The same problem applies to your hint: I suppose there is still the limitation of 255 chars... or not ? ;-)
Thanks anyway.
yeah, I have no idea what the maximum length is
Of course, for Dutch numbers, 10 chars length, 11 if I include that semicolon, that's still 25 numbers Sending an SMS to 25 people should be more than enough for me
You could also write a mort script to call VJSMSSend a gazillion times :>
The former issue is the bigger one - I hate updating lists, myself. There shouldn't be anything holding developers back from implementing mailing lists, using info from the contacts POOM, and setting up SMS's (setting up and sending an SMS is a MSDN example, so.. pff)
I'm no developer, though - I just managed to get "Hello world" running a few days ago, and then I got sick - so no long computer times for me
SMS Distribution Lists
Having Upgraded to a qtek 9100 from a nokia 9300 communicator for better windows/outlook compatibility etc, I have been searching for something to fill the gap for SMS Distribtion lists.
I understand from reading other posts than previous versions of Windows mobile did offer this, aswell as being able to play different ringtones depending on chich caller group a call was originating from.
Has there been any new information on SMS Distribution lists for the HTC Wizard phones?
Also, is there any way to actually just select "send new txt message" rather than go to messaging and browse to the correct account/ folder to achieve this?
Regards
Jass
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Having Upgraded to a qtek 9100 from a nokia 9300 communicator for better windows/outlook compatibility etc, I have been searching for something to fill the gap for SMS Distribtion lists.
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Welcome in the "unsatisfied club"...
I understand from reading other posts than previous versions of Windows mobile did offer this, aswell as being able to play different ringtones depending on chich caller group a call was originating from.
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I have never seen, nor in previous versions, a real "group" as we were used with Nokias...
Some thirdy party programs do that anyway (and it's good enough such programs exists...).
Has there been any new information on SMS Distribution lists for the HTC Wizard phones?
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Unfortunately, no... I have been looking around for a lot of time and finally I found a solution: I kept a Nokia 6230 in my bag, just for this kind of use...
I know, it's stupid... but much more less stupid than preventing me using this feature on a WM5 device !!!
Also, is there any way to actually just select "send new txt message" rather than go to messaging and browse to the correct account/ folder to achieve this?
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Different approach: select the contact you need to send the SMS to and select "Send new SMS" from the options. You'll have the editor opening with the "To:" field already filled...
Hope this helps a little...
Ciao
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jasvinder said:
Also, is there any way to actually just select "send new txt message" rather than go to messaging and browse to the correct account/ folder to achieve this?
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Download the attached file, extract the included shortcut to your PPC, and run it - see if that works for you. If it does, you'll note that there's "to" and "body" fields that you can fill out if you want (e.g. a pre-composed message to your boss saying that you'll be on your lunch break)
For some more advanced SMS stuff, try VJPhoneTools:
http://www.vijay555.com/index.php?Releases:VJPhoneTools
Or one of the many commercial SMS apps
The download when unzipped only contains a shortcut which is not valid.
CAn we download it from your website?
it's supposed to only contain a shortcut
Code:
32#windows\tmail.exe -service "SMS" -to "" -body ""
If you don't have a "tmail.exe" in your device's "Windows" folder, then indeed it's probably invalid. Try searching for that file on your device, see if it's elsewhere. If it's not, or you can't find it, just use one of VJ's tools instead
Group sms
O2SMSPlus is out and about, it's for wm5 and does group sms.
Hello,
I would like to use SMS in a new application using XDA. I want my application can read sms in inbox.
Do you know how I could see example of source code using SMS API? Or do you have such example to help me?
I got example to send sms but cannot get sample how to read the sms.
FYI, i am writing program using eVB.
Thanks a lot
You should take a look at PocketPC Network Programming by Steve Makofsky or simply try
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=pocketpc+sms+api&start=0&hl=de&ie=UTF-8&
and
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/en-us/dnppcgen/html/sms_apps2.asp?frame=true
SMS API is not easy.
Yup, it's not very easy, you need to learn about POOM...
I advise you to look into VB .net, it's been made a hell of a lot easier.
I still do it the Medieval way though! Win32 C++ all the way :shock:
V
I did include some C code on sending/reading SMS in this post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=10761&highlight=
You are asking about reading messages in the Inbox that is when poom as mentioned by vijay555 comes into play.
I don't know anything about poom, but I have read incoming SMS by making my read thread take control of incoming SMS. This means that the message never goes into the inbox.
vangelderp: interesting code, not seen it before on the board. A very good way to do it. It doesn't need to be installed before pocket outlook etc does it? I don't imagine it does. Good stuff!
V
No it does not need to be installed before PPC Inbox (Outlook), what seems to happen is when a SMS message comes in the Inbox fires up. From that point on my code won't get a handle to SMSRead.
So what you need to do is do a warm reset and then start your user program (including my code sample) before any new incoming SMS messages and then it will get the SMSRead handle first. This then blocks Inbox getting a handle which I am sure it raises a error message on if you then try to go into inbox.
vangelderp: yup, that's what I thought. I never used that technique because of that, I stuck with POOM. But your createevent and thread work is very helpful.
V
SmsReadMessage of SMS.API
Thanks for your all comments.
Do you know how to use SmsReadMessage of SMS.API ?
This function is used to Reads a previously received SMS message. I really hope somebody else out there can help me how to use that function
Regards
You use SmsReadMessage like I do in the code attachment I have mentioned.
This function does not read a SMS message that has already been received by the normal PPC Inbox program. As said for that you need to use POOM.
SmsReadMessage for for your code to get a SMS Read Handle and then wait for the event (The Message) to occur and then use the SmsReadMessage function.
Exactly as I have done in my code snippit.
bad situation: Sweetheart erroneously receives an SMS from you that was meant for Honey.
solution: Read and re-read your messages before sending them, and verify that you arre sending to the right person before pressing SEND, but we are only HUMAN, and we make mistakes.
software to the rescue: A SMS editor program that FILTERS your messages and decides wether your message is really meant for the person you are sending the message to.
how?: you assign keywords to contacts and it is saved in a database that the program accesses, for example, you blacklist the words "honey" and "baby" from messages you send to SWEETHEART, so the database will look like this:
Sweetheart-(Blacklist: honey, baby)
Honey-(Blacklist: sweetheart,baby)
Baby-(Blacklist: sweetheart,honey)
so when you type the message "Goodnight Honey" then SEND to SWEETHEART, the program evaluates that this message should not be sent to SWEETHEART and WARNS YOU and DOES NOT PROCEED to SEND the message, but if the message is "Goodnight Sweetheart" and to be sent to SWEETHEART, the program evaluate it as valid, then proceeds to SEND the MESSAGE to TMAIL.EXE (the REAL SMS program for final sending)
objective of this program: WORLD PEACE, actually just peaceful and harmonious living, hahaha. because wrong sending of message is eliminated.
other uses of this program?: you can blacklist the word "FAT" from being sent to your very fat friend, because he feels insulted by the word, or you can blacklist "PORK or PIG" to other people who might feel offended by this word.
Men and Women alike would like this program, although some would not admit it, they would really find a program like this very useful. hehehe.
So now the question: Can some programmer do this pls?
I can do programming for PC, but i havent done Pocket PC programming, i think all this program is an INTERFACE with the user by providing TEXT EDITOR, the evaulates the TEXT, then PASS the information to TMAIL.EXE.
CAN SOMEONE DO THIS?
thanks
reserved for flowchart....to help programmer if there are any takers...
Should be possible... I'll be happy to take a look when i have some time..
But ... i'm pretty curious what "inspired" this idea
nice app! and Mr_Gee, maybe simliar inspiration was used in your SMS Password app
NguyenHuu said:
nice app! and Mr_Gee, maybe simliar inspiration was used in your SMS Password app
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haha lol
The strange thing is my girl also looked through my messages the day before
I wrote that application... so it was also a bit of personal gain
This is what i whipped up, please note the sending is not working yet...
give it a go and let me know what you think...
to begin click on menu>app. options>import contacts
rescan when the table is filled hit OK
Next manage blacklist
select the name from the dropdown list, add the blacklisted words
for testing i used pizza, banaan (its dutch)
thats also why there is already some text entered in the message are
(i forgot to remove it when i compiled the app )
Once the blacklist is updated hit save and close
in option screen click save
go to menu>add recipient and select the one you've just updated the blacklist for, next write a text, with or without those words and see what happens.
From the testing i did the logic seems to work...
please note, the blacklisted words need to be written without spaces and seperated by a comma
e.g. hello,mikey,banana
also Pizza is not the same as pizza...
let me know what you think..
On a sidenote, the application also needs a name
i was thinking along the lines of
- Stupid Me (what you usually think after sending the wrong person an sms)
- doh! (tribute to Homer )
- LifeSaver
- LoveSaver
- SMSLifeLine
but if you have a better idea please let me know
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will test it, LIFESAVER could be a good name, but it what it does is save my ARSE really, hehehehe.
what i usually think after sending to the wrong person? "OMIGOSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!" then comes the cold sweat, then the customary call from the recepient then 2 days of explaining, hehehe.
what inspired this idea? clearly... is to help my friend who has a lot of girlfriends...hehehe. he tried calling them all HONEY...didnt work
suggestion, converting all text in blacklist and in message to ALL CAPITAL LETTERS before evalutaion could eliminate the difference between Pianp and piano, also, replacing "," or "." or symbol characters with "<space>," "<space>." or "<space>symbol" could help blacklisted word next to symbols. thanks man.
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what inspired this idea? clearly... is to help my friend who has a lot of girlfriends...hehehe. he tried calling them all HONEY...didnt work
suggestion, converting all text in blacklist and in message to ALL CAPITAL LETTERS before evalutaion could eliminate the difference between Pianp and piano, also, replacing "," or "." or symbol characters with "<space>," "<space>." or "<space>symbol" could help blacklisted word next to symbols. thanks man.
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Thought about it, but i think it would be easier just to write the 2 versions,
currently the application checks for the word, if it doesn't find it it checks both <word>, and <word>.
another problem is that I have the program check <space><word><space>
(thats why there cannot be any spaces in the blacklist)
the reason is that if the blacklisted word is Piano and the spaces aren't there it would flag Pianoman as a blacklisted word
youre right, is a beta program available that already sends? hehehe.
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youre right, is a beta program available that already sends? hehehe.
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not yet, hopefully tomorrow
will be waiting thanks, by the way, what proggy are you using to make this software?
New version, should be working (e.g. sending stuff)
thanks, will be testing this as soon as i find a way to get this on my SD card or phone, im at my work pc and all my tools are left at home. eg. sync cable, bluetooth, card reader, wlan card.
Did you find the time to check it?
yup tested it,
first test, import contacts then manage blacklist - done
insert recipient - done
typed text without a blacklist word - done
send - wont send, send button just reacts but it doesnt do anything.
typed text with a blacklisted word - done
send -no reaction, no sending or warning, button just reacts but doesnt do anything.
thats the result of my test mr. gee. thanks.
edit edit edit,
now this is funny, i thought nothing was done when i press send, but BOTH messages with blacklisted word and not were sent to the FIRST person on the contacts list. hehehe. talk about preventing sending to the wrong person, no harm done, but funny.
the first person in my contacts list replied to me with both text that i sent that was supposed to be for an intended recipient. the texts were intended for a person 'L' but was received by the person 'A'.
great idea
sounds very interesting ... but is there a programm for filtering/screening incoming messages aswell?
e.g. you recieve a message from a special person and you don´t want that s.o. hears it but all the other recieved message should ring as usual ...
for incoming filtering, i think there is a program for that already.
check link: http://www.zedsoft.net/
but for outgoing filtering, this is the current idea so far.
thanks for testing Paul,
I'll take a look at the application, not sure whare the issue is..
This is really good idea.... Keep up the good work
I remember that I was out for work and than I sent SMS like: I was cool, thanks.... to my girlfriend (doh!)... And real trouble started
Hello,
Here is my first application made for my HTC a while ago...I decided to publish this after a friend asks me if this kind of application exists for WinMo...
Developed in c# (.net CF 3.5) it allows to send GPS Coordinates by mail, like the "Here I am" application from the iPhone.
For accessing the GPS on Windows Mobile, I used the SDK from Microsoft (Samples.GPS)... Thanx Kevin for testing and comparison with its iPhone ^^
It should work on any Windows Mobile having a GPS. But I never test this app on other devices!! (mine is HTC Diamond Touch)
CAB File : Download
Source Code available on demand!
For AutoUpdate of this application just go to Config then Check the box "AutoUpdate" and restart the application (not sure of the "first run" but should be "Off" by default).
The "Send Account" is the account to use for sending mails, the "Mail Account" is the account to use for getting contacts (I'm using "Send by Hotmail" and "Contacts are ActiveSync"...)
Do not hesitate if you have any bugs, problems, ideas, ...... I'm really "open" to critics
Regards,
DarkAngel
!!Warning : this is beta release!!
Release 0.3 : add of English language
Release 0.6 : added AutoUpdate support and small things (More info on my blog : HERE and HERE)
Any testers for a beta version ?
Oh yeah
Can you give me a package in french please
i prefer
The application should be in french if your ROM is french...
I tested using a winmo simulator for english and my HTC for french (using Aztor ROM in FR)
Are you using an english language ROM ?
I may add in the next release an option to change the language (have to test this )
Tested
Here is my feedback even when I was not able yet to get my GPS coordinates
on a Touch HD, but I am in a hotelroom right now keeping the phone before the window.
- User should be able to modify the mail before it is send out.
- I don't like the contacts list that pops up in big fonts, I think it is smarter
when the mail is generated in the background and than opened in the default mail application, most of the time outlook.
Than a user can select the mail adress for the TO field like he does normally when sending emails and he is able to edit the mail also.
It should not be difficult for you to generate the mail and than show the mail in the mail application...
Nice to have : Expanding the application to be able to send an email or SMS.
Tomorrow I will try more...for now it looks great !
Brownbear
DarkAngelFR said:
Hello,
Here is my first application made for my HTC a while ago...I decided to publish this after a friend asks me if this kind of application exists for WinMo...
Developed in c# (.net CF 3.5) it allows to send GPS Coordinates by mail, like the "Here I am" application from the iPhone.
For accessing the GPS on Windows Mobile, I used the SDK from Microsoft (Samples.GPS)... Thanx Kevin for testing and comparison with its iPhone ^^
It should work on any Windows Mobile having a GPS. But I never test this app on other devices!! (mine is HTC Diamond Touch)
CAB File : Download
Source Code available on demand!
For AutoUpdate of this application just go to Config then Check the box "AutoUpdate" and restart the application (not sure of the "first run" but should be "Off" by default).
The "Send Account" is the account to use for sending mails, the "Mail Account" is the account to use for getting contacts (I'm using "Send by Hotmail" and "Contacts are ActiveSync"...)
Do not hesitate if you have any bugs, problems, ideas, ...... I'm really "open" to critics
Regards,
DarkAngel
!!Warning : this is beta release!!
Release 0.3 : add of English language
Release 0.6 : added AutoUpdate support and small things (More info on my blog : HERE and HERE)
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Feedback #2
Yez, i got the coordinates and succesfully send the email to my gmail adress and opened it in gmail.
Clicked on the links and you see where I am great.
Application works, but need some modification to give it a boost amongst users :
- Generate the mail in background and than open outlook so that user can edit mail and select recipients.
- Add nice GUI
- Add option to select whether to send by SMS or Mail.
That's it.
Keep us informed about updates.
Brownbear
brownbear said:
Here is my feedback even when I was not able yet to get my GPS coordinates
on a Touch HD, but I am in a hotelroom right now keeping the phone before the window.
- User should be able to modify the mail before it is send out.
- I don't like the contacts list that pops up in big fonts, I think it is smarter
when the mail is generated in the background and than opened in the default mail application, most of the time outlook.
Than a user can select the mail adress for the TO field like he does normally when sending emails and he is able to edit the mail also.
It should not be difficult for you to generate the mail and than show the mail in the mail application...
Nice to have : Expanding the application to be able to send an email or SMS.
Tomorrow I will try more...for now it looks great !
Brownbear
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brownbear said:
Yez, i got the coordinates and succesfully send the email to my gmail adress and opened it in gmail.
Clicked on the links and you see where I am great.
Application works, but need some modification to give it a boost amongst users :
- Generate the mail in background and than open outlook so that user can edit mail and select recipients.
- Add nice GUI
- Add option to select whether to send by SMS or Mail.
That's it.
Keep us informed about updates.
Brownbear
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Hello there
As a developer I make things in 2 steps : first technical demo, then a nice GUI (have a look at the step from v0 to v0.4 of my other app DarkRuler).
I'll add an option for mails : "direct send" (able to edit default message) or "open in outlook". No problem and nice idea
"Add a nice GUI" : any proposition is welcomed, I'll try to improve this a little for other resolution than mine (HTC Touch Diam). I've seen things on the web that could be fun (having city from gps coordinates) but well, this would need internet connection so not sure.
SMS/Mail choice : I was thinking of it already!
I'll publish the application on CodePlex for next release. Should be in 2 weeks (more or less) because many works here...
Thanks for the feedback, appreciate it and was waiting for this kind of feedback to continue development
Looks good - I'll keep an eye on this.
Seems like a useful application, I hope the development goes well.
Really nice app. Works like a charm in my Blackstone. I'll be looking forward that new enhancements that are in the queue
Would you like a spanish translation? I can translate the program, or at least the default email text, if you feel like it.
hey TS, can i know how u get the latitude and longitude? mind to share the code? i'm doing the application that return me back the latitude and longitude... quite blur as this is my 1st time using c# .net and with mobile environment...
really looking forward to hear from u soon..
u can email me at [email protected]
and MMS ?
how about to add MMS as well, so you can send picture of place you like with GPS coordinats together?
Okay, right I've tried everything to disable the conversations, i tried doing different ways but i've still got the text with history and it's making it little more difficult for me to reply to my friends/family.
Example: (what its like)
Conversation with (contact name):
Me: *message* Timestamp
Contact: *message* Timestamp.
I don't want it that way.
I've tried downloading DisableThreadedMessages...
Didn't work either...
Any other way to change the layout of the messages instead of travelling a long path to the end?
Please send a copy through private messages thanks.
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Okay, right I've tried everything to disable the conversations, i tried doing different ways but i've still got the text with history and it's making it little more difficult for me to reply to my friends/family.
Example: (what its like)
Conversation with (contact name):
Me: *message* Timestamp
Contact: *message* Timestamp.
I don't want it that way.
I've tried downloading DisableThreadedMessages...
Didn't work either...
Any other way to change the layout of the messages instead of travelling a long path to the end?
Please send a copy through private messages thanks.
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Well It's SORTED...
Solution: IN THE MENU...
There's SMS Threading...
Choose Whether to Have Threaded Or Single.