Greetings.
This is my first post to this forum section. I'm more of a Windows/web developer who's just beginning to get his feet wet with WM development - I've written a process manager and a "kill task" command line tool so far.
I own a 8125 (Wizard), and I've had a blast customizing it. I'm currently running the latest release of TNT's WM6 ROM and quite content. However, I do have one issue that I have not been able to resolve.
When using a Bluetooth headset, most audio is redirected to the headset as expected. However, when I invoke a call via VoiceCommand, the dialer still outputs the dial tones to the internal speaker. This can be annoying when in a crowd.
Has anyone come across this issue? Does anyone have a solution? I've considered trying one of the dialers posted under the HTC thread, but I thought it might be wise to consult with experienced devs.
Thanks much,
W James
P.S. I originally posted this question under the Wizard WM6 section. Unfortunately, no one was able to offer a solution. Sorry about the cross posting. Hopefully someone can provide some suggestions here.
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Hi all,
Please go easy on me here, as I have some probably pretty basic questions. I have been digging around the internet (mostly these forums) for the past two days since I got my new Mogul from Sprint running WM6. I had the PPC-6700 prior to this (as I expect most of you had) and I was fairly good at tinkering on that one, but I'm on new ground here with WM6 and a new phone.
First, I am a little confused by all the names.
For sure, I know that this phone can be called the Titan, the Mogul, or the PPC-6800. What I'm not sure of is that some people also call this the Hermes or the TyTn. I figured Titan and TyTn were the same things, but apparently not.
The main reason I'm asking is so that when I am looking for information and posts on this phone, which can I use and which should I disregard. It seems that many of the things posted under the Hermes forum are valid for the Mogul as well, but alas..I'm confused.
Once we get names settled, I'm going to start with only one other question that I have dire need for. I have looked around for answers and most are many months old, so I have to think that there are some more recent findings. My question regards Microsoft Voice Command 1.6 with a BT headset on this phone.
I have installed MS VC 1.6 and paired my new Cardo Scala 800 headset. It seems to work with the following problems:
1) BT quality is not great, including VC voice getting cut off. This is my first BT headset with this phone, and I have read that many people have poor BT quality with this phone. If that's the case, can anyone recommend a BT headset that works well with this phone (preferablly one that charges directly via mini-USB).
2) Confirmation don't work - based on what I have read this is a problem with all WM6 phones with VC 1.6. It appears the only solution is to disable confirmations completely. I have done this and it appears to be able to function. I just want to confirm that there isn't any newer data out there for this issue.
3) Last issue is that I don't get notifications. Meaning, when an incoming call comes in I get the ringing sound, but it doesn't tell me the name. In my searches I came across this posting:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=316881&page=51
It is for the Hermes (again..confused) but contains a zip file with 4 files to copy over the default VC files. When I did this and reset my phone, notifications seem to work. I want to make sure that this is the best way to get VC 1.6 working as fully as possible on this phone.
I really appreciate any feedback you can give.... I have a few more questions, but I'll wait till we get these squared away.
Thanks to all!
Well, I've not been a Mogul owner for much longer than you, and certainly have been a PPC owner less (this is my first PPC), however let me try to answer a few of your questions.
First, the "Sprint Mogul" is Sprint's name for this phone. The phone "codename" of sorts is the Titan, and model is the PPC-6800. Hopefully I got that all right. Bottom line, they all refer to the same phone. Also, different cell companies have different names for phones, so it can get a little confusing sometimes.
Now the TyTN is the same device as the Hermes, aka the 8525. From what I've gathered in my short experience, this is basically the same same phone as the Titan, however, it's the AT&T GSM version. Where we have CDMA and EVDO, it has GSM and HSDPA.
The files get tricky too, and you have to know your way around the system before you try replacing files from other phones. A lot of files (and issues) are general for WM6. That means that any device running WM6 may have these same files, behaviors, or issues. However, with that said, certain files are specific to the network. Some of the things like dialers are coded for GSM on one phone, and CDMA on another. So if you think it might have anything to do with the network, double check before you replace it from another phone that's on a different network. In your case, the voice command thing is general to WM6, so grabbing the files from the Hermes was ok.
The bluetooth? Well, that's a question a lot of us still have. The bluetooth on these phones suck. I've heard a lot of people say it's HTC's fault, and I've also heard a few people say WM6 just isn't good with BT anyway. I personally haven't gotten into what's wrong with it much yet, so I can't tell you exactly the issues, but we can only hope for a firmware and/or software update in the future that will help these problems.
I know that if you look around, I've seen lists where people have listed which BT headsets seem to work well, and which don't. The only I have, and thus have tested, is a Jawbone, and I can report, as well as tell you from reading, it's one of the better BT headsets for this phone. It's a little expensive though, so it's not in everyone's price range. Unfortunately I can't help much past that since I've never used any other, but if you search you can probably find threads like I mentioned and just get feedback from other people.
Also, I've never played with Voice Command, so I can't answer any more specific questions on that subject. Hopefully I helped clear a few things up. As I said, I'm definitely still learning myself, but I've been taking in all kinds of information. I love this phone and don't see how I've survived without a PocketPC before.
Ajerman,
Thanks for your input. Ok that makes sense regarding the AT&T GSM version. I think most of what I will want to tweak will be related to WM6 and not carriers.
Unfortunately my Cardo 800 BT headset is my first headset too, and this is the first time I'm using it with the phone. So, I too don't have anything to gauge it against. I'm probably going to return the headset however as it was advertised as having a mini-usb charging jack, when infact it has a micro-usb. I saw the jawbone, looks nice, but again, I only want a headset that uses a mini-usb jack (too many adapters to carry around).
My next questions (hopefully someone can address), is unlocking the Extended ROM for customization. I did this on the PPC-6700 WM5 with an Extended rom unlocker tool and modified the config.txt in there to automatically install certain apps upon hard-reset.
I need to assist the mobile admins at my company with setting everyone's phone up with some additional settings en masse.
Is it safe to use the same procedures on WM6? I'm probably going to try it anyway but thought someone could point me to a good primer on upgrading my skills from WM5 to WM6.
Any more input is valued!
thanks
Before anybody flames me, although I am a newbie here, I have searched, and searched, and searched....I am a previous user of the 6700, and am a propeller-head by trade.
With all that said, I have a legal copy of VC 1.6 (see sig for details and device), and I'm looking for a fix to address any or all of the following issues:
1) Dialing confirmation prompts do not work over bluetooth.
2) Caller and appt. announce does not work over device speakerphone.
Although I use a bluetooth headset, I really prefer announcements on the device speaker. If anyone has a solution to only #2 above, I'd scrap the BT headset in a heartbeat because sound seems to wave in and out over BT on WM6 on this device anyway.
I've seen posts of replacement files that fix the announcements; unfortunately, the reports of those fixes say that the ringer doesn't work for "unknown" callers. Yikes!
ANY help or direction-steering would be greatly appreciated.
Upgrade to any of the 3.16 ROMs. I had the same problems as you, and the upgrade fixed all of them. Some of the ROMs include an OEM of MSVC v1.6.17913, so that will be upgraded too.
Thanks for jumping in here.
What phone are you using?
Also, can I go back to the standard Verizn ROM if it doesn't work or something fails?
And where can I find these ROMs?
I have the Sprint PPC-6800. Look here in the Titan Upgrade forum for several ROMs, and several more on PPCGeeks in the HTC Titan forum and its Upgrade sub-forum.
Be sure to read the instructions first, as there are several steps the first time. You have to unlock the bootloader, load a new radio, and the ROM. The bootloader and radio only need to be done once, then you can load any 3.16 ROM you want.
Other benefits of the new ROMS are WM 6.1, EVDO-A and working A-GPS.
Did you get the VC to work on a Verizon XV6800 and "hear" the confirmation?
Did you get the Voice Command to work on your Verizon XV6800 so that it "hears" the confirmation via Bluetooth?
Thanks
Hi,
Just got a new company car and its got a Sony Stereo CD player Speakers Bluetooth and Voice command/recognition
How do I pair my Wizard up. I can detect the radio and pair it, however the radio says no device detected...
Any ideas where to start?
Regards
Barry
bazza1603 said:
Hi,
Just got a new company car and its got a Sony Stereo CD player Speakers Bluetooth and Voice command/recognition
How do I pair my Wizard up. I can detect the radio and pair it, however the radio says no device detected...
Any ideas where to start?
Regards
Barry
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Ford's probably using stereo bluetooth for its connection. You need to enable your phone with A2DP first, then do the pairing. I have had good luck with the Tornado version of A2DP for the Wizard, but only after I overclocked my phone's processor, and made some minor adjustments to the data rates at a registry level.
If you're a noob, you need to do a LOT of reading before trying this, or you'll lose your ability to generate sound altogether. Not as dramatic as bricking your phone, but makes it almost as useless...
Just search these boards, the answers are here. Search.
...and welcome to the XDA Dev boards!
Hi,
Thanks for the reply..was just starting to look at New phones!
My current Rom is 2.21.4.1.WWEwhich is the latest O2 one.
Rom Date3/9/06
Radio 02.07.10
Which Rom would people recommend updating to?
Regards
Barry
...the worm turns.
bazza1603 said:
Which Rom would people recommend updating to?
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Normally, this is where I say, "Start a new thread, for this new question, because nobody is going to open this thread to answer that question."
However, you've asked a question that usually results in the person asking being lambasted (read: flamed) for asking a question that is, in most cases, a matter of total opinion. As has been said many times before, about this subject:
What's best for you isn't what's best for (nearly) anyone else.
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So....that said, I recommend you look at the Wizard Mobile 6 boards, read the Wizard wiki THOROUGHLY, and know your phone very well before you even consider trying to load a cooked ROM, or you will have an expensive paperweight instead of an incredibly useful tool.
Whatever you do, please do not post a question like "What's the best ROM for me?" because only YOU can answer that question, and only after you educate yourself to what's possible, and what your specific needs are.
If you just want to sync your phone to your car, then stick with the A2DP upgrade, and an overclock (OMAPCLOCK via SmartsKey is my preferred method of overclocking). That's my advice, free of charge.
Could anyone help me find a A2DP upgrade. I have honestly hunted, but I am getting confused...
Tried Torbado A2DP without success. I run a 02 Mini S
Regards
Barry
Hi
I have got Stereo headset now showing, but its greyed out for the radio device?
Anyone got any ideas?
Regards
Barry
I would highly recommend looking at JETWare BT Extenstion. It adds a lot of functionality that MS left out of the BT stack.
http://www.jetwaremobile.com/
Hi,
Got it working....
With other phones they were pairing automatically. If you search from the radio
Phone >menu then search, after a long wait it finally pairs...
Installed http://www.jetwaremobile.com/ which may have helped...
Thanks for everyones help.
Regards
Baz
Hi guys, is it possible to have bluetooth stereo on my wizard. Is there maybe a particular rom i must load.
Can any1 help me with this.
Doesnt anybody have any information on this topic.
Dude. Patience.
This site is analogous to a bulletin board, not to a chat room. Sometimes, it takes days before someone with the right answer to your question reads your post. Sometimes, it never happens....and you will almost always find answers if you run a search. You certainly aren't the first person to try upgrading the bluetooth on a Wizard.
To answer you, Yes. There are several options available, ranging from difficult (manual editing of your registry) to easy (load a .cab file or two) to way overdoing it (loading an entire ROM just to get BT stereo) with varying degrees of popularity and success throughout the user population.
I have heard this works on some Wizards:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=263745
When I was using WM5 only, I used this successfully:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=931212&postcount=1
If you're in love with the idea of flashing an entire ROM for more reasons than just stereo bluetooth, do some reading first, and make sure the ROM you want has "A2DP" capabilities, or you'll be right back here looking at my suggestions again.
Welcome to XDA, and please don't forget to search before asking questions. You'll often save yourself a lot of time and frustration.
edge200is said:
Hi guys, is it possible to have bluetooth stereo on my wizard. Is there maybe a particular rom i must load.
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BLuetooth stereo is built into the Wizard, with the standard ROM, at least on my T-Mobile (USA) MDA
You just need a BT stereo headset.
Thanks Myrddin Wyllt for the welcome.
Sorry about my impatience i would just like to say what a gr8 forum and you guys are doing amazing work. Been spending hours reading all the post and I hate reading so this is definitely good stuff.
Thanks
Hello,
I've got a lot of problems with Voice Command + LEO + BT Headphone.
Voice command speaks on the Leo (Do you want to call Mr TITI at work?) instead of speaking in headphone.
Do you have similar problems??? In France we all have it.
Do you have a solution?
Thanks in advance.
Hi, I have the same problem: some times it use the headset, some times the phone pseaker....
I have other problem with VC 1.6.21725:
- as Mail are read perectly, I have no SMS read.
- Call announcment are not thrown every times I have an incoming call...
Any help?
Is there anymore development for VC? or is it discontinued to Tellme?
same problem here....
does anyone have a solution yet? how to make Leo let voice command speak via bluetooth? Not through the the device? I searched the hole Forum. Any tips and hints that where given didn't work for me. So, if someone have an Idea please post.
Thank you.
Joshua
Same thing happens with Cyberon VSD I am using. Hope someone finds a solution. This didn't happen both in my Omnia and Topaz.
There are a lot of threads here discussing this problem... do a search if you want to research it.
Basically, it is because the HD2 uses the Widcomm BT stack instead of the usual MS one... it will not play nice with many apps (and some hardware) which may have been written with the MS one in mind. This is not an easy thing to fix by just cooking into ROMs too. THe guys with the Touch Pro 2 have this same issues longer than us HD2 owners cause of the same stack... and they still have no solution.
Our only hope is that Widcomm updates their stack to play nice... or more importantly, MSVC or CSVD issues an update that will play nice with the Widcomm stack. Last update to MSVC was shown on Handango site as 20th Nov 2009.... I would like to hear from anyone who has tested this with our units.
Seems to have no issues to our problem
Looks like it's a problem of certain BT headset devices.
Look here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5318249&postcount=31